White People Are The Descendants Of African Albino's.

Thanks for sidetracking by bringing in arguments for another thread. Talk about major sidestep. WHat has what we argue in anothe thread in ANOTHER FORUM got to do with this. Someone got their undies up in a bunch I see, its just a forum dude, take it easy and do not take my arguments personal, when I say you come of as a d*ck and stupid its merely your arguments and how you present them I am reffering to i.e. a stupid poster not a stupid human being, anyway


I never drew any conclusions on Oppenheimer's work. Can you read, I was talking about the scientists that are racist, I NEVER SAID HE WAS OR THAT YOU WHERE FOR SOURCING HIM. Dammit, read what I freaking wrote and quit insinuating rubbish I never said or claimed or argued. JESUS.

My main reply to your thread was to essentially say what you posted and argued where based on theories. Alot of theories including his hold alot of weight obviously and is rooted in alot of facts, archealogical, geographical, etc science. However it is a theory and theories always undergo revisions when new discoveries are made. There where theories even before the TOE and alot where debunked when the TOE came about for example. No matter how solid a theory might be or sets of theories new discoveries can make them revised or debunked, the way you sourced it and put down other peoples speculation on the matter indicates you think they are facts and cannot or might not be revised or are the absolute truth. You already admitted Oppenheimer's theories, like all other theories, have extrapolations, good ones but extrapolations nonetheless, why?BECAUSE ALL THE FACTS ARENT KNOWN.

Kabiyesi's statement is obviously wrong as obviously his theory does not stand up to scientific scrutiny. But for you to put it down the way you do with other theories, although vastly superior, and try to play them off like the theory you are proposing is infact the absolute truth end of discussion shows your ignorance. You could have said there are better theories based on TOE, Geography and CLimatography that explain the cause of the mutations better than his not OH, YOURS IS BULLSHIT, THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, because the fact is your theory AINT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. Its a theory that tries to explain what happened using KNOWN FACTS.


Again read what I said idiot, I pointed out such theories because they had been falsifiedm and the one you proposed probably will be falsified as more discoveries and facts come along in the future, so your unmuttable belief in Oppenheimer like he has a unique lense into the past and he is not using recent discoveries and current science to propose his theory and back it up is STUPID. If you think Oppenheimers work is not going to revised or maybe even possibly discredited you are living in a dreamworld, as even his theory, while good, has extraploations like any theory. Same with the TOE (which I mention because like a kid taking this discussion to emotianally you brought in topics in the other thread here, don't cry little one, its just words and arguments)
Your blind faith in such theories is ridiculous. Even scientists do not blindly believe their theories and hold it as unmuttable and fact like you do, it makes you come off as silly.

i know yu guys are into this topic but can ya'll keep it short and simple. i get tired of reading long posts.

No you didn't, you sidetracked the discussion and didn't discuss the topic of this thread altogether. Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to my posts. You posted in a thread only to question the way in which I rebutted somebody else. You didn't discuss the topic of the thread, you didn't discuss the merits of the different explanations presented (except for saying that the explanation presented by my opponent didn't hold water). The only thing you really did is mount a childish personal attack on me.

Maybe you need to inscribe for a reading comprehension 101 class. Explain to me how Oppenheimer presents a general principle or body of principles.

Do you feel better now you've thrown in some insults? If you diagnose me with schizophrenia, maybe I can diagnose you with Tourette's syndrome (the Coprolalia variant, that is). The only difference is that my diagnosis actually has some evidence to back it up.

Your strawman version of the scientific method probably? The one where laws are above theories?

Reading comprehension class anybody? They're waiting. If you would have actually read the thread, you would have understood that the topic was a discussion on one of the ideas of Welsing.

You really have a deeper craving for spewing insults, haven't you?

In you dreamworld, maybe. I just feel sorry for those that attempted to teach you basic manners.

Eurphoria,

It wouldn't occur to me to be proud of the fact that a people known for their rapes, robberies, homosexuality, oppression, murders and general madness would be something one should be proud of or something that should make one feel better.

In fact when thinking along those terms, it is far better to agree that they are not the descendants of Africans but in fact the descendants of mutated Albino Africans, who suffered from illness.

This is not a self-esteem program showing relation of whites to Africans but rather something that explains why they alone have the pyschologically makeup to do what they did.

Let us go back to premise of this theory of the colors:

Under the physical limitations that their 'genetic mutation' put them, these people would have to come up with a way to undo somethings known about them around the world.


This is where convincing the Africans that even though Africa as a continent has more natural resources than other areas --Africans are poor because they are inferior comes in.

This is where convincing the Africans that even though Black skin is HEALTHIER, you should get ill using creams to get a skin color that is not as healthy comes in.

This is where convincing Africans that it was not our guns, slaughter, and oppression that harmed you, why it was the fact that you are dumb and backward that hurt you.

Understanding psyhcologically why these lies are necessary for them, can lead to healing in the future. This is why this is important to us.

Imagine a psychologist accepting the excuse from a mass murderer that his superiority and his victims inferiority gave him a natural right to decide who should live and die amongst them.

That type of nonsense is exactly what whites ask you to accept with their theory's of where they and others come from.

We need the truth to get healed, both the mass murderer and the victims, whites and blacks.

Euphoria,

Sorry. Smile. You stated this at the end of your post:

Anyway like my girl desiree said does it make us feel better if they are our descendants? i think not and i hope people are not thinking along that line. 

I was making plain that this discussion is not about making anybody feel better but was about gaining truthful knowledge of what has happenned to us as black people and using that truth to bring some correction to this world.

i.e. our feelings whether good or bad are irrelevant, it is the truth we are trying to get at.

Alarinjo,

I am a Christian, and when a theory basically starts with the idea that Black people are gods, I stop reading it, so I have never went that far in trying to understand such things as Melanin making us gods or 5 percenters, etc, etc.

But since you accuse me of belonging to such groups, maybe you will explain their thinking to me.

@topic,
Interesting.

This is an interesting thread. I'm listening.

If Europeans are white because they are descendants of Albinos as you claim and not beacause they evolved to suit their environment,
1. how come they haven't got afro hair,
2. why are their facial features different (i.e. lips, nose, eyes, cheekbones, etc),
3. why are their forearms smaller,
4. why have they got less muscles in their butt cheeks (excuse the scientific phrase)
5. why are their ankles chunkier. (blacks have slim, well defined ankles).
6. why are their ears bigger?

Also, I thought this might be of interest -
'People with albinism are generally as healthy as the rest of their species, with growth and development occurring as normal. Many animals with albinism, however, lose their protective camouflage and are unable to conceal themselves from their predators or prey. The survival rate of animals with albinism in the wild is usually quite low. The main problem that people with albinism face is social, as the condition is sometimes a source of teasing during adolescent years.

As albinism is a recessive gene, the chance of offspring with albinism resulting from the pairing of a creature with albinism with a creature without albinism is very low. Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albino

Sista,

I started this topic with the idea that "there is something different about being Black".  I asked a question: How can white be God, if Blacks are not the devil?

Think on what white people found in this world, when they left Europe proper (Britain, France, Portugal, Germany, Scandinavia, etc).

This is what white people found:

CONGO

"The indigenous peoples of the Congo," he wrote, "are all black in color, some more so, some less so. Many are to be seen who are the color of chestnut and some tend to be more olive-colored. But the one who is of the deepest black in color is held by them to be the most beautiful. Some are born somewhat light-skinned, but as they grow older they become darker and darker. This occurs because their mothers make use of the artifice of an ointment,  with which they anoint their infants, exposing them once they have been anointed, to the rays of the sun, then leaving them there for long periods, and repeating this action over and over,  There are some children who although their parents are black, are born white skinned and although they anoint them and use all manners of artifice they can never be transformed into blackskinned people. And these are regarded by the Congolese as monsters. They have the same features and the same tightly curled hair as the black Congolese, but their skin is white and they are short-sighted, As a result, children in those areas, where a white has never been seen before, would become terrified, fleeing in horror from us, no less than our children here are terrified by the sight of a black also fleeing in horror for them.

But they do not want us to call them Negroes (negros) but Blacks (Prietos); amongst them only slaves are called Negroes and thus amongst them it is the same things to say negro as to say slave."

[Teruel, Antonio de, Narrative Description of, the Kingdom of the Congo (1663-1664) Ms. 3533:3574/National Library, Madrid, Spain]

SOUTH INDIA

"It is a fact that in this country when a child is born they anoint him once a week with oil of sesame, and this makes him grow much darker than when he was born. For I assure you that the darkest man is here the most highly esteemed and considered better than the others who are not so dark. Let me add that in very truth these people portray and depict their gods and their idols black and their devils white as snow. For they say the God and all the saints are black and the devils are all white. That is why they portray them as I have described. And similarly they make the images of their idols all black."

[Marco Polo, The Travels, translated and with an Introduction by Ronald Latham, Middlesex: Penguin Books, 1958]

SOUTHEAST ASIA

"For the complexion of men, they consider black the most beautiful. In all the kingdoms of the southern region, it is the same."

[Nan Ts'i Chou, quoted by Rene Gaston Georges Maspero, The Kingdom of Champa. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1949]


Whites found a world, where they were considered the least beautiful, where they were the least physically and the least spiritually. And most importantly -- they had the least materially, all the best resources of wealth was in the lands, where they were considered the least.


Whites naturally felt that they had to change this, if they were to have any chance of obtaining some of the materials from the world, that they desparately needed.

I say desparately because unbeknownst to most in the world because of historical lies, there was actually, no such thing as a renaissance, it was a myth made up in the 19th century by racists who did not like the obvious implications of the world finding out that whites were in fact experiencing one of the worst periods in their history: their cities were on fire, they were racked by disease, starvations, slavery, oppression, etc recovering from what are called mini-ice ages, famine.

This was their condition that made them desparate enough to want to go and see past their lands. I repeat the renaissance is a myth, a delusion, a cover up, it never happenned and many a white historian now admit that.

So you are desparate to survive and you find a world that says: Blacks are the most beautiful.

Now you begin to see the true factors going into why whites did what they did.

The answer to my question is simple: Whites felt they could not allow for a world where Blacks were the most beautiful and had everything going for themselves.

Whites had to make Blacks into the devil of the world.

This is the reason, no matter where you go in this world, you will find Blacks held at the bottom of all society's.

All any other race has to do, is basically agree to this system whereby whites get the material goods and the blackman is the lowest and they will be allowed to semi-prosper.

Whites know the Blackman is different, the Blackman is their enemy. It's been that way since they first went to see what else was in the world.

So for the last 600 years, they have been trying to get the whole world, themselves and even the Blackman, to believe that the blackman is the inferior one.

The Blackman must be the devil, for whites to have any chance of being God.

Every race in the world will be doing good and living good but not the blackman.

The whole system of Global white supremacy is built on removing the blackman and replacing him with the whiteman.

If you understand this, you will understand why, Africa has more college educated people, more christian people, more intellectuals than ever before and Africa is getting worse.

The system requires the destruction of the Blackman, anybody trained for that system, is going to continue those policy's, even if they do not understand that it is what they are doing.

New, Please admit  that the Bible is a book written by Black people, for Black people and to Black people, it is a message sent to Black people because we can clearly see that even though Jews have white skin, they retain Afro Hair and Afro hair is clear proof of a person being descended from Africans.

Thus we can rest assured that the Bible is a Blackman's book.

Thanking you ahead of time for admitting that you believe this, since you clearly believe that Afro-hair alone determines a persons descent from Africans.



For the same reason that in one human generation, a child's facial features are different from their parents. Does it surprise you when your child does not look exactly identical to you? Well map this out after thousands of years. Do you really think that thousands of  years from now, you will be able to pick out the child who is your related to you? Because their facial features stayed the exact same?




All blacks even fat ones? LOL


Really? Amazing that they can not hear as well as Blacks even though their ears are much bigger. LOL I guess that is another mistake by mother nature, like white skin, evoling something that gave them no benefit.



I do not understand this. When it says that people with albinism are generally as healthy as the rest of their species. Are they calling Albino's a separate species? 

And of course Albino's having babies with Albino's is what brought forth white people. So the point about their offspring with normal humans, would not be relevant.

@ Drusilla




Drusilla, I wasn't trying to answer that question, however I was trying to demonstrate that the white man must be the devil. I didn't try answering that question because in essence if the white man came from African Albino's and African albino's are African, that means the white man must be African as well.

The white man is just a truly messed up defect. The white man does not want to claim  he is African because his ego Fueled by rejection from black people won't let him. Instead he intends to go on with his plan to make his self appear to be God when infact he is the devil. If he came from us, he must be here to teach us something. We just have not figured out what that is. As long as we stay seperate we won't be able to figure it out.

Drusilla, you are doing excellent with this topic. Teach! you know what you are talking about, I am so proud of you

LOL Alright, I did not catch that the first time around. Smile


I am not sure that it naturally follows. For instance, the devil of the bible (if there is a difference between biblical devils and human devils) is from God, God created him.

Yet nobody believes that because the devil came from God then the devil must be God. (excepting the few wackos)

Evolutionist believe that humans and jellyfish have a common anscestor but they do not believe that in anyways makes humans and jellyfish the same species.

And as you say, the whiteman by his own theories believes that all people, thus his people came from Africa, a very long time ago. Yet he does not believe that this in anyway makes him and Africans the same species, well he didn't until recently (the last 30 years).

Think on this-- Ancient Black people--600 to 5000 years ago:

Evidence from Egyptians rejecting some foreigners as homosexuals who worship the devil.

Evidence from Blacks in Asia, India and Congo rejecting white skin on humans as monsters and portraying those with white skin as the devil.

Black people ruled the world. Black was considered the most beautiful everywhere you went.

Think on this-- Modern Black people--600 years to present age:

Welcomed the white traders, sang songs about them, signed friendly treaties with them giving the whites rights to use land, to do business and trade with them. Sending their African sons to interact with them.

Total disaster. Black people rule has ended every where, Black people are considered the most beautiful but the least desired everywhere.

White people might have something to teach us, alright.

But it just may be that we should have listened to our Black Anscestors.

Simply because less than 1 percent of Jews have curly hair (large curls and not tiny curls like sub saharan Africans have) doesn't mean that their ancestors were Albinos, it just shows the level of integration that occurred over the years.

How many swedes have Afro hair?

Drusilla, your ignorance is demoralising and Its time I left this thread. You are the first wholly racist person I have ever come across in my life.

Relative to size (thought you were intelligent)

New,

I knew you would back quickly away from the idea that having Afro- hair was by itself a sign of Africanness. If I showed you whites who did have Afro-hair, namely the Jews.

Losing a point, then insulting the other guy and then leaving the thread in a huff.

Are not new behaviors on the internet, their quite standard but if you think you got us fooled.

More power to you.

Have a good day.