Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?

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AnthoniO (m)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #32 on: April 16, 2007, 03:12 PM »

Dear Ugwumba,
I have come to notice that scientists seem to be too emotional when it appears that a fellow scientist is making a headway. I have read your posts on Emeagwali but i must tell you that I may be justified if I conclude that your attack is driven by jealousy rather than reason. Why? I have observed that your attack has crossed the boundary of Emeagwali and drifted to Oyibo. I must tell you that you may have some grudge against Emeagwali but PLEASE I beg you, don't even try to tongue-lash a two time Nobel-Nominee named Professor G.A. Oyibo. You are a Physicist and you know what it is to develop such a formula (GAGUT).
What you are doing is exactly what one Professor Ama Nduka in my University (FUTO) did when Oyibo visited our school. Nduka has this habit of getting aggressive whenever any other physicist appears to outshine him. When The Profs. who felt they could lash Oyibo started displaying heights of childishness like you are doing, Oyibo said something, "Don't attack me, Attack my formula" They could not. Look, Oyibo is not your mate. I don't think you know what it is to be nominated for a Nobel Prize.
In the academia, the number of references you have i.e the number of authors that refer to your work or book, affects your prestige. Chike Obi as I heard, has about 20 international references. I don't relly know how true that is, but thats enormous if you know what an "International Reference" is. A Russian mathematician, Professor Sagas (or something of that sort - not sure of the spelling) read Oyibo's Gagut and found nothing mathematically wrong with it. Sagas has 201 references! How many do you have?
You should know that Oyibo's work is on Mathematical Physics. Einstein was a mathematical physicist. In mathematical physics you move from equations to reality. i.e You develop equations and give experimental physicists to try out and it works. Einstein's work was developed with equations - scratches of a pen on paper and when US tried it, it destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Remember that Einstein's equation was also looking physically unreal but because it was mathematically faultless, it worked. That's what theoretical Physics is all about. If the conditions are satisfied, the physical must obey. Remember, those equations were founded on time-tested laws of physics. Oyibo is very intelligent and you may not reason like him. If there is a fault in GAGUT then there is a fault with one of the underlying principles that were applied while deriving the equation (Gij,j = 0). Maybe calculus, relativity, Gauss, poisson's, laplace's or  lagrange's theorems could be faulty.  Attack those people who founded those theorems i.e Newton, Einstein, Laplace, etc. Read his childhood story and see how he discovered Gauss's equation without having prior knowledge of such a theorem - in primary school! The discovery thing is in Him. Behave Yourself! The most likely thing that is pushing you against Oyibo is Jealousy.
Behave Yourself!
Ugwumba (m)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #33 on: April 16, 2007, 03:18 PM »

Quote from: Ugwumba on August 30, 2006, 02:03 PM
@ clocky, my early post-graduate work was on QCD (quantum chromodynamics) and i will attempt a  lay mans' explanation here.

The GUT (grand unification theory, theory of everything) in physics attempts to combine the tripod of  fundamental symmetries - QCD (the strong interaction), the weak force and hypercharge.
Each symmetry is fairly successful in desribing physical phenomenom at different scales, but are less successful at the boundaries where the other force is dominant.

GUT is an attempt to have a 'single' concept that describes all physical phenomena, and physicists from Einstein's time have struggled with this.

Now, while Dr. Oyibo's work makes mathematical sense (has been peer reviewed by people like Prof. Animalu - a great Nigerian physicist) the connection to physics that all such great theories make has not been established.

It therefore remains in the realm of 'mathematical manipulations' and not physical theory, and therefore does not bring him close to a Nobel Prize in Physics (none in mathematics) which was the media hype.

@ Anthonio, not sure of where you want to go with this, but above are my comments on Oyibo, who you so eloquently have tried to defend. No where there did I disparage Oyibo's efforts, but simply put his achievements in the context in which they should be understood.

GAGUT, as I had inferred, was mathematically plausible, but physicists reject it on the grounds that it really does not satisfy established criteria for sound physical theory - e.g. Einstein's work was established long before any actual experiments/ observations through his use of thought experiments (like the 'twin paradox') and postulates (like the existence of 'black holes').

Not wanting to exchange comments with you on this, because I am not certain at what level you are qualified to understand these details. If however you are a theoretical physicist or classical mathematician (possibly at post-graduate level), please indicate as much and we can start a private conversation on this. If however, you fall into the category of those who just post a comment on issues they do not or cannot comprehend, then you can be forgiven.

Ama Nduka taught me Quantum Physics at the UNIFE in 1980, before moving to the then FUTO, and up to the time I left core theoretical physics to industry (but still as a physicist), without boasting, I was one of the new generation of Nigerian physicists being lauded by Professors (Animalu, Maduemesie, Allotey, Nduka, Oluwole, Ade Amusa, the Chike-Obi sons) across the country, for my early work in quantum physics. I also worked my a$$ off on several areas of mathematical physics and at 24 was already lecturing post-graduate quantum mechanics at both ABU Zaria and later Imo State University.

In my current subject matter (Petroleum Engineering - rock physics), I am recognised as a global expert and have been selected for the 2007 Marquis' Who's Who in Science & Engineering.  You can verify this by sending a mail to my private mail box, after which I can send details that you may cross-check.

SO, I HAVE NO NEED TO BE JEALOUS OF EMEAGWALI OR OYIBO!!!!!!!!!

Now, to your issues of questioning the GAGUT - I can post to you detailed rebuffals of the GAGUT (hope you can follow the 'speak' of advanced mathematics and theoretical physics) by very notable scientists - which is why Oyibo no longer gloats about his Nobel Prize nomination.

Please also note, that, like in all human endeavour, a nomination for such a prize does not neccessarily carry the toga of approval/ confirmation that most Nigerians assume it does.

It simply is a recognition by some of your peers on work you have done. To my knowledge, thousands of scientists are nominated every year for the Nobel prizes, but the short list finally contains only a few. If Oyibo's claims had been as a leading physicist, there would have been no uproar, but our people are wont to exaggerate any recognition by going on a media circus. I do not recall any Nobel laureates who behave in this manner.

We can rightfully be proud of achievement (we afterall have Wole Soyinka, Chinua Achebe, Animalu, Oluwole, Chike Obi), but must ensure that we are not seen, in the scientific community, to be commiting 'intellectual 419' - obtaining recognition for our academic work under false pretenses: Emeagwali is guilty of this and, to some extent, Oyibo as well.

PS - since you ask, in my chosen field I have well over 40 references to my work (which span a period of about 20 years -published my first scientific article in 1986), and I am still working. You may be right that Oyibo is not my 'mate', as you so immaturely put it, but we do not usually use 'mate' as defence in responding to scientific critique.

AnthoniO (m)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #34 on: April 17, 2007, 03:46 PM »

Dear "Professor" Ugwumba,
Take A Look @ this;

http://nigeriavillagesquare1.com/Articles/laolu_akande/2004/07/nobel-nominee-oyibo-my-discovery-is.html

Toppling the Bestseller in Barnes and Nobles Means something. These white Proffs have been (maybe secretly) rushing this book on GAGUT and reading it in their closets.
My Friend, Let me open your eyes of understanding. You may fail to understand that in things like this it might be a simple mathematical manipulation that will bring the work of Oyibo to universal acceptance. Boss used principles from einstein's work to come up with the Boss-Einstein condensate - a new state of matter outside the 3 popular ones. One of these white dudes (let's say Prof X) may come up with a slight modification, (something as small as the limit of a variable as it tends to zero or infinity, or a complex variable being simplified by neglecting one dimension) and the whole GAGUT becomes the BOMB. In such a case it will become X-Oyibo's GUT.
Do you know what maths means?
Do You Believe in maths?
It has been said attimes that mathematics is truth that can be proven, remember  "Truth that can be proven".
Again, it is said that before Einstein died he dropped a clue,
"The solution (to the GUT) lies in geometry".
Sir, What is Geometry? A branch of maths. Substitute in the statement and you'll have
"The solution lies in mathematics"
Cheers! God be with you and open your eyes of understanding.
GOD DOES NOT PLAY DICE WITH THE WORLD, albert einstein.
Ynot (m)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #35 on: April 17, 2007, 06:14 PM »

AnthoniO, you are absolutely right. What we believe and accept to be true today can turn out otherwise. Not too long ago, people were jailed/maimed/killed for saying the earth was round and revolves around the sun but now we know better.

Ugwumba (m)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #36 on: April 17, 2007, 07:06 PM »

@ Antonio, when I see the sense in your post, I will reply (you remind me of some of my students in ABU Zaria in the 1980's who could not understand the distinction between scientific thought and social discourse).

Until then, I have offered you a smart way of double-checking my credentials (mail me and we can continue this discussion in detail) to claim the authority to be able to critique Oyibo's work. I do not waste intellectual energy in ripostes with people I do not know, or cannot verify are capable of making this assessment.

Apparently, your 'professor' comment was aimed at belittling, but is laughable, because 17-years ago I was already a Lecturer I and my peers in the University system were professors almost 9-10 years ago. I made the choice to go into industry, but even here have remained in the forefront of research in rock physics.

PS - as I noted to the administrator of nl, Seun, earlier, a lot of people who visit this site make the assumption that everyone is young, have no experience or credentials and post for the fun of it.

You may also post your e-mail and I will follow this up with you.
sisimose (f)
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #37 on: April 17, 2007, 07:09 PM »

ugwumba

good post(s) . One of the few mature and brilliant people on Nairaland .
joeycrack
Re: Is Philip Emeagwali A Media Hype?
« #38 on: June 27, 2008, 05:41 PM »

Ugwumba makes a lot of sense,
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