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texazzpete (m)
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probably cgi too,
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Gamine (f)
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ooh i definately love Cloudo, the best male lead character in any final fantasy But Snake still holds a speshul place in my heart!! 
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marhoatumu (m)
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have u seen the trailers of mgs4? they show snake for what he really is, a bitter old man trying to come to terms with his past. by the way, how did he get so old.
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Gamine (f)
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No  that wasnt Solid Snake , its big bros, His Father
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texazzpete (m)
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No  that wasnt Solid Snake , its big bros, His Father Now you're talking about MGS3. The Snake in MGS4 is none other than Solid!
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Gamine (f)
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R u serious, i don't blive it!!!  ooh well thats why i like FinalFantasy Characters, they don't age! 
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Lush
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Uhmmmmm Gamine, i think thats why its got "fantasy" in it. Too much make belief (so they don't grow old), not all that bad though.
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Gamine (f)
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Yeah i kno its a 'Fantasy' duhh  , but don't we love em  we dream all the time, it aint bad at all oo.lol 
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echowords (m)
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Posted on: January 24, 2007, 02:59 PMPosted by: marhoatumu
have u seen the trailers of mgs4? they show snake for what he really is, a bitter old man trying to come to terms with his past. by the way, how did he get so old. Clones age physically faster than the original specimen from which it was cloned from due to some genetic abnormallies.
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Lush
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Clones age physically faster than the original specimen from which it was cloned from due to some genetic abnormallies.
Chief Dr Echowords baba 
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Gamine (f)
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Lol, i guess but he was one fine clone 
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sykboi (m)
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Metal gear solid(the greatest game ever made)this game is great fo real
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c0dec (m)
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guess what game was wikipedia's feature article today?
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dakmanzero (m)
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not all clones age fast. Dolly aged fast and thus the 'clones age fast' shtick
in the world MGS the do the clones age fast or is it just that mgs4 is in the far future?
Gamine: big boss is dead! poor big boss,
Final fantasy characters *do* age. Check out 'mature cloud' in final fantasy advent children! And 'mature tifa' (her bust size has reduced lolololol!!!!!!
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echowords (m)
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@dmz The clones aged fast in mgs4,compare snake to otacon and evn general cambell.cambell is a lot older than snake yet snake is already decaying. check the trailer @ www.ign.com (15mins).
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dakmanzero (m)
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poor snake
actually as far as game heroes go, snake is the most overrated I think. 99% of the time that u die in mgs its because snake just doesnt cut it. The guy is crap except during cutscenes where he becomes a superhuman!!!! depends entirely on the player!
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Gamine (f)
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Dakman!!!, its Tifa's Bust u were sizing up Cloudo didnt actually 'age'
Anyways its all good,
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dakmanzero (m)
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Ah ah, how do u mean cloud didnt age. Cant u see his 'I am more squall than squall' serious face? the guy is a BIG BOY now! Am sure you would faint with admiration if he so much as glanced in your direction  As for tifa's boobs of glory, she was obviously stuffing her bra before (to get cloud to notice her) and now she has outgrown it! lolololololol!!!!!! (by the way, Blame tifa for my fixation on short girls with big boobs . . . )
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echowords (m)
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Final fantasy characters *do* age. Check out 'mature cloud' in final fantasy advent children! And 'mature tifa' (her bust size has reduced lolololol!!!!!! Hey DM you mean tifas boobs where bigger in ff7, Now i have to seriously buy that game.
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Ch!z (m)
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Mgs 4 lif - can naver discount d trill plus d story's fast paced, d cut scenes r out of this world n' best of all, u won't get bored- maybe i'm d only one but d 'strolls' in ff can be frustrating ff is definitely off d top and shouldn't be compared 2 mgs as they'r of 2 diff genres but if i were 2 pick i know where my loyalties lie. D new ff looks great though( d game preview )
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dakmanzero (m)
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@echowords
Tifa schooled lara croft in the art of bazooka loading!
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Gamine (f)
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i still don't think they 'aged; because u can't compare the game charcters to the movie, it was just like one or two years after,
short girls with big, whatever *rolls eyes* tank goodness im none of that!
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texazzpete (m)
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i still don't think they 'aged; because u can't compare the game charcters to the movie, it was just like one or two years after,
short girls with big, whatever *rolls eyes* tank goodness im none of that!
*cough* hrmmph!! Nothing wrong with short girls with big bazoombas. One Gamine's short is another man's portable. . . 
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Gamine (f)
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Texazzpete u would know abi u would know!
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dakmanzero (m)
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lololololol! Short is a word reserved for men! with women its, portable! 
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count (m)
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I feel final fantasy is more interesting than MGS. Thats just my personal feeling
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Gamine (f)
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it aint bad to have personal feelings take a look at dakMan and texazz
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dakmanzero (m)
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well what can i say
people who love mgs love it for the story and video/cinematics. Same reason many people like final fantasy.
i personally got bored of the whole cheesy 'secret agent international conspiracy' thing really quickly because it tried too hard to be realistic and serious but just came across to me as tacky and cumbersome, I prefer the dramatic fantasy settings of FF with unrealistic but stylised beauty everywhere but some people are offended by magic and bright colours.
So I guess its down to personal feelings.
As for the gameplay, both games suffer from overly simplistic gameplay. MGS gameplay has hardly changed from the old 8-bit NES game (download and play on an emulator to see for yourself), and FF 9 is still very similar to the 1985 NES original. So if, like me, you get bored of running about dodging the line of sight of daft computer opponentsfrom morning till night, or like others you get bored of selecting options from menus, you'll never be sold on the gameplay of either game
so its a matter of personal feeling i guess.
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