Obedience and church work!

talking of church work: churches are suppose to have workers that they pay at the end of every month.
so its up to individual to decided on going to church whenever they are less-busy to contribute to the church work.
the pastor got no right to call you up forcefully on anything.
even if he want to, he is suppose to confirm if you can make it or not, before any-other thing.
i think you pastor is rude.
sorry to say

oboy u better look for a church and attend. you sound like the anti-christ

so anybody that has a contrary opinion is an antichrist?

 Jesus is the way, truth and light and no man shall get to the kingdom of God without him. you will not get heaven because you go to redeemed church or obey your pastor. i suggest you leave the church and find a place of worship, it is you faith that matters not the church you attend. your pastor is seriously abusing his poition as the head of the church. yuo are an adult and in uni, i believe you have the right to choose which church you want to attend and what you want to do. your education is far more important than the work you are forced to do in church, which you are doing against your will. the problem is you cant even report to any one becaue of the typical nigerian mentality that a pastor can not be wrong. you have two choices
1, keep getting abused by your pastor in the name of God and fail in uni,  or
2, worship our God in a different church and graduate with a very good degree.
but one thing i know is that God is everywhere, and not in redeemed church alone. good luck.

@ neo_wrlsh, am not an antichrist, am for Christ, but my point is that, people get easily carried away by their so called pastor, dont let them decive you woth church  work and engage your tiime, theres time for everything,. time to go to work/school, time to go to church,

its so bad that most penticostal followers go to church cos of theri pastors, they see them as their all in all,  God save them,,,,

Firstly, what a daft question (and this is no disrespect to  the poster) but I guess the topic has definitely crossed my line of questioning. Also, are you sure you live in this same England where you have to secure your own head and face life in it's harshest form as it is as well as combined with the odd school fees people hacve to pay to be able to go through university.
I attended a very good university in London and I've been lucky now to be on a good stand work-wise. How would you disobey your parents in order to respect a pastor who has himself come over to the UK to seek greener pastures? I doubt you have got a job and if you do, where do you have the time to spare to feed all these so-called men of God? If you cannot go to your normal Sunday service and let God do the rest in your life and face your studies squarely, I guess you're doomed for failure especially in the UK where a lot of graduates are complaining as we speak and the news is daily talking about the economy hitting recession, you still have time to obey some gentle men calling themselves men of God, oh well, I hope God himself would save you when this economy crisis hits you.

Word: Obey your parents first and if it conflicts with you or your pastor's interest, then forget it and don't forget you are here for a pursose and if that purpose slips you, then you'll have yourself to blame, remember the guys in Nigeria are also not sleeping so better make use of the opportunity you have right now, study hard, play hard and serve your own God not the pastor.

All the best.

Very good question and am not here to criticise your Pastor, but at the end of the day your Pastor should be considerate.

You are not there to serve and work for Man but to serve GOD.

God sees your heart and I will advise you not to leave your salvation. If your Pastor is not happy about the situation, then maybe that church is not meant for you.

www.churhwhereabouts.com 

I think we should all learn to differentiate between Mr. A  and Pastor A which means that in as much as he is a Pastor, he is also a human and that part of him cannot be hidden.

I have been in this kind of thing before although not entirely the same sha. While i was in school, it was all about Pastor and fellowship. I even had to skip lectures all in the name of working for God (nothing my friends and parents said made sense; my parents even threatened to disown me but i did not listen) until one day when we had an all Fellowship leader's meeting and the Main Pastor asked all leaders whose Grade Points were below a particular mark to stand up. He was very upset because almost everyone got up. He said something i will never forget, u are first in school to read; if you excel, people would want to hear you speak. If you dont do well whether in your studies or in life, you will only be regarded as a mediocre so what kind of gospel are you preaching? Need i say that many of us went back and omo, our books became a priority.

I understand that we all want to work for God but we must understand that there is a time for everything and we should do all willingly and not grudgingly.

Now is the time to determine what you want to do. Like Sholeyb said, dont find yourself gossiping about your pastor. I am sure that you have the mind of God and whatever decision you take would be spirit led. If you need to change your parish, then do but your education and happiness is top right now. Dont forget that.

God is not a mediocre!!!

Na wa o, so dis happens in redeem too??.
I taught its only happens in my ex's church CAC, my ex prefers certisfying his pastor and his family to certisfying any other person including me, to an extent that d wife's pastor put to bed, and 4rom hosipatal it was my guy's flat they moved to, they even had d naming there, as i am typing dis now, they are still in his house.
The Pastor's wife has taking over d kitchen, d 2 rooms infact, no secret place 4 them in dat house, not just d husband and d wife alone o, 2gether with d pastor's other children from his ex wife . d 3 children, d baby, d pastor, d wife, one other girl whether na house help she be i no no, then with 3 other church members, d church members has been living with him b4 d pastor and d family moved in.
I asked when d pastor and d family will be living, he cant say, and whenever i go there i fill very unconfortable seening such crowd not even his family members o, i rearly  sees those ones around.

D pastor appears nice o, friendly, but my own spirit does not just like him, he looks more like a 419er to me, though i never told my guy dis o.
take a look @ dis, d pastor that married another wife when he has not divorced d first wife? and he did not even marry d second wife properly, only started living 2gether and after sometime, he impregnated her and they became husband and wife.
and if u see d way my guy worships d man, u wont believe he is just his pastor.
d guy has been brainwatched ehen, to an extent dat i lost my fone, he was to give me one of his fones, but in my absence d pastor fell in luv with d fone and asked for it and my guy dashed it to him just like dat, i was sooooooo angry, dis is me that i did not have any fone and he decide to give it to d pastor taht already had 2 fones .
Every friday is night vigil in my ex's flat, disturbing other neighbours with drum beating and song, if u enter my guy's flat, d first taht will welcome u is drums, bell etc, his house is their second church, they travel like hell, and he is going to be there driver throughout d journey.
All dis has really affected him proffessionally and he is not even seeing it atall, he does not want to look for work after he lost he his job, if u advise him to try and do dis to get a job like sending his cv and all dat he will tell u he is not ready to stress himself dat God will do it, dis is a guy dat is already 40 year old o and already has a 7 year lod daughter dat he has d responsiblity of taking care of o, not to now talk of d parents and d siblings,he is d first born.
We are no longer 2gether sha, because he is not just my type

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.Exodus 20:11-13.

Are your serving God or are you serving your pastor . Accord the same respect you will to any other adult to your pastor,  if God putsit  in your heart to do church work , then do it . You have to find a balance or sacrifice one thing for the other. But don't let the pastor use emotional blackmail against you

@ poster,

Whatever decision you take please have it at the back of your mind that it is YOUR LIFE that will be affected!

To start with, I fully understand your situation because I have been there. The fact is that the fault is not yours alone; your pastor who does not respect your life outside church has a fault as well. The problem you both share is called BOUNDARY problem. The person that does not have boundary has a problem; the one that runs over people's boundaries or take advantage of boundaryless people also has a problem. What is this boundary you may ask? I will qoute from a great book my fiancee recommended after sharing my predicament with her:

" Boundary define us. They define what is me and what is not me. A boundary shows me where I end and someone else begins, leading me to a sense of ownersip."

If you don't set up boundary for your life and make people aware of it some folks will run over your life at their convenience. Bounday is that invisible wall that one sets around one's life that makes peolpe know the answer they will get to any request they are about to throw at you. A well defined boundary prepares one to handle situations like the ones you stated above in a Godly and polite manner. A lot of examples abound in the book to drive the points raised home and the juicy thing about the book is that it was written from christian point of view and has lots of  bible references. I will advise you get a copy of the book:

Name - Boundaries
Authors: Dr. Henry Cloud & Dr. John Townsend.

What can you do now?

1.) Start to set up boundary by scheduling you time and stick to your schedule. Draw up your schedule so that you will know what you will be doing at any point in time so that when folks start to throw request at you, you have a ready convincing answer. You will be surprised how many other people are taking advantage of you in a subtle way that you have not even discovered yet.
2.)  Create a geographical distance - leave the church after service if you are not doing anything so that you don't give impression that you are available for extra responsibilities that are not your's.
3.) Don't feel guilty for saying NO to requests that are not your responsibily more so if undertaking them will upset your schedule; our God is a God of order and balance. More importantly, know what God has called you to do in the church and have it in your schedule. Like Pastor Dollar used to say - we should not be too heavenly conscious that we are no earthly good and we should not be too earthly conscious that we are not heavenly good - balance is the key!
4.) Use your voice mail to strengthen you boundary. 
5.) Above all, pray that God will open his eyes to see what he is doing.

Shalom






 

thanks @ Steven5, I tottaly understand what you mean about being childish.  However,  It ain't childish because it's nice to hear parents view but they don't neceesary have to make the decision, which they didn't . As I'm growing older, I will seek advise from my parents when necessary but it doesn't make me childish. don't u ask your parents for advise?

Thanks everyone, I've actually concluded on what I'm going to do about the situation
THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!

@Poster
 The church should have other workers too,or are u the only one?I think u have been too attatched to the church and u find it difficult to say"no". But come to think of it; Ifyou must work for the church(or the pastor whoever u think), then do it cheerfully.You need to sit down and ask your self, "what do i really want". If u are not happy with your service, then u should stop or leave whichever u think its right. At the end of the day you have not sinned. You can do god's work in somany ways not just limited to the local assembly.

 Take care

@Okunoba and Princekevo

Being religious is different from having relationship with God via Christ Jesus.

Religious people are largely hypocrite.

The two examples goes thus:

1) Pharises and the Saducees in the Bible

2) The young man in Matthew 19:16-22

My sister,
Pray seriously about this. Don't leave the church. I am also a worker in RCCG.

Remember we were taught to pray for our leaders (both in Church and the country).

God will answer your prayer and give you wisdom. It is Good to serve God not human.

You need not confront your pastor. This may signal disrespect or disobedience but you need to pray for Wisdom. Your Education is very important so is your service to God.