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bawomolo (m)
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there is one theory i was taught in college. all the worlds gods are really one god. the difference is the cultural moral codes associated with each religion
it's hard to believe all the worlds gods are really one god. Is sango on the same level as Zeus or Jesus? God get levels o |
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kola oloye (m)
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it's hard to believe all the worlds gods are really one god.
Is sango on the same level as Zeus or Jesus?
God get levels o
My dear, there is only one GOD,that is the creator. I call him Jehovah. Every other god (sango, ogun or whatsoever) are man-made gods. They don't have any level. |
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May kelly (f)
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But only the Religion that call and speak in the name of Jesus
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23
Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; Ephesians 5:20
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; Philippians 2:10
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Colossians 3:17
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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Man has never been the same since God died. He has taken it very hard.,human race has never commit evil so fully and joyfuly as when they do it for religious convictions  ,maykelly. . . you're either in one of the class.The world holds two classes of human being - (((intelligent men without religion))), and(((religious men without intelligence.)))
Hey, let's get serious. . .  God knows what he's doin' He wrote this book here And the book says: 'He made us all to be just like Him', So. . . If we're dumb. . . Then God is dumb. . . (And maybe even a little ugly on the side)" 
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olabowale (m)
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Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Christian God when he said God died. Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Jew and Christian God when he said God made us to look just like Him. Fortunately Allah God of the Muslim is neither of the two. This God of the muslim is Unique in every respect, not like His creations and not dead, ever.
Whats unfortunately, people like Ogaga4Luv spoke so much about Christian God, maybe because of his Christian back ground but forgot that Allah of Islam was before anything, has no partner and full of power, ability, knowledge to do all things.
The original question from Kola Oloyede was if a religion was created by God for human, now, here is my answer; He ordained a religion, hence by definition a religion is created by Him for mankind to follow as a test of obedience to His Commands.
That religion by definition is Islam; willingly (peacefully, without any coersion), submission to the Command, Will of Allah. Afterall, it is faith/belief that is in play here. This Allah is no seen, touched, smelled, but the heart of a believer takes Him to be Lord God in existnce, by knowledge in faith of His signs, all that exist, known and unknown.
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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olabowale. . . verything is more or less organized matter. To think so is against religion, but I think so just the same. When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly realized I was talking to myself.
what did you notice on my post. . .?huh??
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May kelly (f)
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Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Christian God when he said God died. Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Jew and Christian God when he said God made us to look just like Him. Fortunately Allah God of the Muslim is neither of the two. This God of the muslim is Unique in every respect, not like His creations and not dead, ever. Whats unfortunately, people like Ogaga4Luv spoke so much about Christian God, maybe because of his Christian back ground but forgot that Allah of Islam was before anything, has no partner and full of power, ability, knowledge to do all things. That religion by definition is Islam; willingly (peacefully Holy war  , without any coersion), submission to the Command, Stop deceiving your self, of course your allah is quiet different from the Only True LIVING JEHOVAH GOD. We have told you that a thousand times - or do you want to make yourself clear to the one of the fools that rejected the Truth? haba your god is quiet diefferent from Christian TRUE GOD, there is no doubt about that. I appreciate that u have accepted that fact. @olabowale take note i pity you for you must surely eat your vomit[/b] Matthew 26:63 , But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Matthew 27:17 , Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ? Matthew 27:22 , Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified. Mark 1:1 , The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; John 17:3 , And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 20:31 , But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Acts 2:36 , Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:38 , Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 3:6 , Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. Acts 3:20 , And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Acts 4:10 , Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. Acts 5:42 , And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach and preach Jesus Christ. Acts 8:12 , But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Acts 8:37 , And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Acts 9:34 , And Peter said unto him, Aeneas, Jesus Christ maketh thee whole: arise, and make thy bed. And he arose immediately. Acts 10:36 , The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Acts 15:11 , But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Is always Jesus Jesus Jesus - the One that Matters in Life.  |
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May kelly (f)
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Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. John 14:23 The One that matters always in my life We Love You Lord IS ALWAYS JESUS CHRIST.
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the christians out this world, I am doing the Lord's work. 
Belief in God is just plain silly. The idea that there's a being or a consciousness that created the universe is patently absurd - what the hell created God? - and the idea that even if such a being or consciousness existed that it would be worried if you went to church on Sunday or if Ogaga4Luv and Maykelly down the street got married is even sillier. A personal god like that, one who is involved in the day to day and minute to minute workings of your life, is nothing more than a crutch, a way for ignorant people to get through the scariness of life, to muddle through the incredible feelings of isolation that we have as human beings. I make no apologies for this viewpoint, and I see anyone who imagines God as some kind of cosmic DJ, The idea of a personal God, a being or a force that pays attention or cares about you, isn't just silly - it's boring. The universe is an amazing place, on every single level, and it's even more amazing when the whole thing isn't simply explained away as 'Oh yeah, God did that.' I think some believers assume that Satansit can't have awe or wonder, but I'm filled with it. I love discovering the wonders of the universe, from the bizarre aspects. I don't look at a beautiful sunset and think how great it is that God made it - how dull. I look at the sun and marvel at how that solar furnace created the very elements that are me. That's mindblowing and awe-inspiring, and it can all be explained .
Because religions are control systems, the most potent ever designed, there's no room for free thought. Real, serious questions about the nature of God - a nature that always comes across as ridiculous. Just think about the Trinity - are discouraged or, if entertained, answered in cheap platitudes. Religious people are asked to believe shit that is completely insane, and they're made to feel bad about it when they begin to see the insanity. Just keep your magic underwear on, child of God. Get rid of those body Thetans and you'll stop being so troubled with doubt. it's that they fucking hate to think, and religion is so comforting for them. All the answers, none of the troubles, and most of them will tell you that it's okay to be ignorant, poor, and unmotivated - God's gonna make it all better in the next world. brash!
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olabowale (m)
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@Ogaga4Luv: « #99 on: Today at 11:20:37 AM » Man has never been the same since God died this above should serve as my answer about your talking about the Christian God when you ask me what did you notice on my post. . .?huh??On another matter, since you consider yourself a god now that you realised that you were talking to yourself when you prayed, I think led you to "athiezm", I will therefore postulate that everytime you talk under your breath, or think in your heart (quite talk/inner talk/conversation) you are playing god, again. No? |
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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The Christians' objection to this argument involves freewill. They say that a being must have freewill to be happy. The omnibenevolent God did not wish to create robots, so he gave humans freewill to enable them to experience love and happiness. But the humans used this freewill to choose evil, and introduced imperfection into God's originally perfect universe. God had no control over this decision, so the blame for our imperfect universe is on the humans, not God.
Here is why the argument is weak. First, if God is omnipotent, then the assumption that freewill is necessary for happiness is false. If God could make it a rule that only beings with freewill may experience happiness, then he could just as easily have made it a rule that only robots may experience happiness. The latter option is clearly superior, since perfect robots will never make decisions which could render them or their creator unhappy, whereas beings with freewill could. A perfect and omnipotent God who creates beings capable of ruining their own happiness is impossible.
Second, even if we were to allow the necessity of freewill for happiness, God could have created humans with freewill who did not have the ability to choose evil, but to choose between several good options.
Third, God supposedly has freewill, and yet he does not make imperfect decisions. If humans are miniature images of God, our decisions should likewise be perfect. Also, the occupants of heaven, who presumably must have freewill to be happy, will never use that freewill to make imperfect decisions. Why would the originally perfect humans do differently?
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kola oloye (m)
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The Christians' objection to this argument involves freewill. They say that a being must have freewill to be happy. The omnibenevolent God did not wish to create robots, so he gave humans freewill to enable them to experience love and happiness. But the humans used this freewill to choose evil, and introduced imperfection into God's originally perfect universe. God had no control over this decision, so the blame for our imperfect universe is on the humans, not God.
Here is why the argument is weak. First, if God is omnipotent, then the assumption that freewill is necessary for happiness is false. If God could make it a rule that only beings with freewill may experience happiness, then he could just as easily have made it a rule that only robots may experience happiness. The latter option is clearly superior, since perfect robots will never make decisions which could render them or their creator unhappy, whereas beings with freewill could. A perfect and omnipotent God who creates beings capable of ruining their own happiness is impossible.
Second, even if we were to allow the necessity of freewill for happiness, God could have created humans with freewill who did not have the ability to choose evil, but to choose between several good options.
Third, God supposedly has freewill, and yet he does not make imperfect decisions. If humans are miniature images of God, our decisions should likewise be perfect. Also, the occupants of heaven, who presumably must have freewill to be happy, will never use that freewill to make imperfect decisions. Why would the originally perfect humans do differently?
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kola oloye (m)
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Happy celebration to our Muslim brothers and sisters.
I pray that God would open your eyes of understanding and lead you in the path of righteousness.
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Riff-Raff
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i dont know about religion, But He definately created privates AND female orifice!!!!
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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Likewise me.
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kola oloye (m)
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Religion is like a virus once it enters your system you are done. 
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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Kola Oloye you are right.  ,Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies, and of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men. . . 
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kola oloye (m)
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Kola Oloye you are right. ,Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies, and of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men. . . What makes you think that the Sharia people are better? |
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lightwalk (m)
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It is claimed that Christ founded a church on Peter, so if Christ is God then God founded a Church. I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the christians out this world, I am doing the Lord's work. You sound like a perfect occult member The AntiChrists of our mordern world. Be careful, you can go to the Bible and readup where you are headed for. May God help you to help yourself. |
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Ogaga4Luv (m)
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Nothing at all. . .i didn't tell you i think the Sharia people are better either. . .I Oppose all Religion Doctrines , They are false and room for total madness in the world today. Satanism is no religion just like in Atheisism. . . you know what?  ,The man who goes through life with an uncertain doctrine not knowing what he believes, what a poor, powerless creature he is! He goes around through the world as a man goes down through the street with a poor, wounded arm, forever dodging people he meets on the street for fear they may touch him.
Im a Free thinker and wont accept any senseless practice. . . What makes you think that the Sharia people are better?
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kola oloye (m)
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Very patethic, religion was the genesis of descrimination we have in the world today Can't we do without religion
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Datope (f)
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Hello Kola Oloye,
Were you in LASU? Just want to know
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viaro
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Hmm, religion is this and that and the other. While you're bashing religion, I wonder that you're inclined to cherish your own religion. 'Your own' - I meant the OP and some who take his view. Let me explain: The question again: 'Stop & Think: Did God Create Any Religion?' Maybe not - and that also means that He did not create your own either. The first thing you ought to have done is ask yourself whether God created your own religion while asking if He created any religion for that matter. But having tried to polarise opinions to lean towards your cherished idea, you assumed that - religion was the genesis of descrimination we have in the world today - and that is a truly pathetic conclusion to draw. Gamine on page 1 gave a sound advice: "Maybe you should stop and think about what Religion actually is" - and then went on to provide a contextual definition of what religion is, including - (a) a religion is a set of tenets and practices (b) religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions (c) religion could also refer to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction. Yes, we all have shared convictions and therefore find ourselves in group identities which hold certain tenets and practices. You may deny that is also true of your cultural ID; but it cannot be denied that you seem to hold certain convictions which you look out for from others who take your own view? Not only that, but think again about the following from Gamine: Sociologists and anthropologists tend to see religion as an abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed as part of a cultural matrix. For example, in Lindbeck's Nature of Doctrine, religion does not refer to belief in "God" or a transcendent Absolute. Instead, Lindbeck defines religion as, "a kind of cultural and/or linguistic framework or medium that shapes the entirety of life and thought… it is similar to an idiom that makes possible the description of realities, the formulation of beliefs, and the experiencing of inner attitudes, feelings, and sentiments.”[7] According to this definition, religion refers to one's primary worldview and how this dictates one's thoughts and actions. So, in summary, we could re-state: "religion refers to one's primary worldview" - that is, following the context of sociologists and athropologists. I agree: because even certain atheist authors have noted that there are "atheistic religions", not because those atheistic religions believe in a 'Creator GOD', but rather because they have the same features that point them out as "religions". These atheist religions have their own cultural identities, abstract set of ideas, values, experiences, tenets, practices and shared convictions. These all go to the point that they refer to "one's primary worldview", and indeed they dictate one's thoughts and actions. Apply them to yourself: and you will find that your concerns dictate your thoughts and actions as well as shape your primary worldview. You have convictions (hurray - even if your conviction is that "religion was the genesis of descrimination we have in the world today" - that's just one of your convictions which some people share religiously with you). But one thing you cannot deny: the sociological and anthropological dimensions of the meaning of "religion" feature quite well in your worldview. But when it comes to examining a particular set of beliefs and convictions that identifies certain groups of people, we find the same thing yet again! Let's examine something you said: "Religion is like a virus once it enters your system you are done" Okay, so according to sociologists and anthropologists, you may have a religion on the basis of what have been outlined above ('cultural identities, abstract set of ideas, values, experiences, tenets, practices and shared convictions' - all of these things do not necessarily mean belief in "GOD", but as a religion they point to one's primary worldview). And if that is true, does your own "religion" (ie, your convictions) act like a virus to undo you? If again you answer in the affirmative, I can respect your religion (even though I won't say anything about it being a virus). |
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lightwalk (m)
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The question again: 'Stop & Think: Did God Create Any Religion?'
Maybe not - and that also means that He did not create your own either. The first thing you ought to have done is ask yourself whether God created your own religion while asking if He created any religion for that matter. But having tried to polarise opinions to lean towards your cherished idea, you assumed that - By saying this are you not now supporting the view that there is no God since it was all man-made . Atheism is not a religion for your notice |
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kola oloye (m)
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@ Datope,
The answer to your question is NO.
@lightwork,
Atheism is a religion based on beliefs.
You can define religion as any of the following:
1. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
2. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
3. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
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kola oloye (m)
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'and whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers' Quran 3:85
Who wrote that verse of the Quran? God, Muhammad or another fanatic like you? |
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olabowale (m)
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Kola was never a muslim, one of the few abeokuta people who grow up as keferi, from youth. Otherwise he should have known that the whole Quran is from Allah, and Muhammad (AS) only heard and repeated (one of the duty description of the another comforter, ala Jesus of the Bible!). baba Egba is going to be caught flatfooted, now as he struggles to respond.
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kola oloye (m)
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Kola was never a muslim, one of the few abeokuta people who grow up as keferi, from youth. Otherwise he should have known that the whole Quran is from Allah, and Muhammad (AS) only heard and repeated (one of the duty description of the another comforter, ala Jesus of the Bible!). baba Egba is going to be caught flatfooted, now as he struggles to respond.
Haba! Uncle, why now? . Let us deal with the facts now. Show me in the Quran where we have it that 'the Quran' was written by Muhammad. Do you know that the only surah "Surah Muhammad" that was dedicated to him was never written by him? |
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lightwalk (m)
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@ Datope,
The answer to your question is NO.
@lightwork,
Atheism is a religion based on beliefs.
You can define religion as any of the following:
1. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects
2. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
3. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
I hope you are not even thinking of trying to create an argument of what atheism is. Just pick up your dictionary and find the meaning of atheism. Atheism does not rely on faith. Religion relies on faith. And I hope you can distuingusih between religion, faith and belief. But are you really saying that we are all living in delusion? |
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olabowale (m)
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@Kola Oloye: « #122 on: Yesterday at 01:34:18 PM » Quote from: Abuzola on Yesterday at 11:50:17 AM
'and whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers' Quran 3:85
Who wrote that verse of the Quran? God, Muhammad or another fanatic like you?
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Kola was never a muslim, one of the few abeokuta people who grow up as keferi, from youth. Otherwise he should have known that the whole Quran is from Allah, and Muhammad (AS) only heard and repeated (one of the duty description of the another comforter, ala Jesus of the Bible!). baba Egba is going to be caught flatfooted, now as he struggles to respond.
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Re: Stop & Think: Did God Create Any Religion?
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Quote from: olabowale on Yesterday at 06:26:23 PM
Kola was never a muslim, one of the few abeokuta people who grow up as keferi, from youth. Otherwise he should have known that the whole Quran is from Allah, and Muhammad (AS) only heard and repeated (one of the duty description of the another comforter, ala Jesus of the Bible!). baba Egba is going to be caught flatfooted, now as he struggles to respond.
Haba! Uncle, why now? .
Let us deal with the facts now. Show me in the Quran where we have it that 'the Quran' was written by Muhammad.
Do you know that the only surah "Surah Muhammad" that was dedicated to him was never written by him?
The above is my reasons for asking you to point out to us, who used not to be arabic teachers, if Muhammad (AS) wrote any letter or word or sentence, or paragraph, or chapter, etc of the Quran. |
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kola oloye (m)
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Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate. He never wrote any portion of the Quran.
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