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Jackal (m)
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@ oshkosh,
Lets move on.
Nobel Prize my ass!!!!!!!! He should face firing squad instead.
Mike Adenuga has moved his op-centre to Ghana while he is now in the UK.
This is how unreasonable commissions like EFCC drive major investors out of the land due to sheer politicking.
What gives u the impression that Ribadu does not take bribes?
would he come out publicly to say i have taken bribe from people?
I wonder why u think this way. No Nigerian public officer is straight.
The sooner u realise that the better for everyone.
What has Ribadu done that deserves mentioning?
Any dumb-ass given the powers to arrest without questions will do better than Ribadu.
Are u telling me u wldn't have arrested more looters than Ribadu if u happen to be in his shoes?
There are so many looters to pick on so the job is freaking easy for Ribadu but sycophants like u will always make noise over little achievements.
Come to London and take a stroll to Bishops Avenue and see the opulent life of Nigerian looters.
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oshkosh (m)
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Ok, so your point being, he deserves neither a Nobel Prize nor Time Man of the Year award. Your view is noted though I'm sure millions of Nigerians will disagree with you.
But what's this business with Bishop's avenue, ? Men, that avenue is fine, and I hear Atiku and IBB have got homes there!!! My honest opinion is lock these two crooks up and throw the keys away forever!
I've just been enlightened on the process for sending nominations to Time International, by January 2007 (Asuming IBB has not 'dealt' with Ribadu by then), this distinguished, honourable and remarkable gengleman will make the cover of time internationsal, let's us keep our fingers crossed.
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big B
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Nobel Prize my ass!!!!!!!! He should face firing squad instead.
Mike Adenuga has moved his op-centre to Ghana while he is now in the UK.
This is how unreasonable commissions like EFCC drive major investors out of the land due to sheer politicking.
What gives u the impression that Ribadu does not take bribes?
would he come out publicly to say i have taken bribe from people?
I wonder why u think this way. No Nigerian public officer is straight.
The sooner u realise that the better for everyone.
What has Ribadu done that deserves mentioning?
Any dumb-ass given the powers to arrest without questions will do better than Ribadu.
Are u telling me u wldn't have arrested more looters than Ribadu if u happen to be in his shoes?
There are so many looters to pick on so the job is freaking easy for Ribadu but sycophants like u will always make noise over little achievements.
Come to London and take a stroll to Bishops Avenue and see the opulent life of Nigerian looters.
Good Job JACKAY::::::::: This is one of the best comment I've seen on this site. It shows that we still have people that think broadly.
one politician big wig has come out like a man to make this comment "Corruption is not enough to stop IBB; EFCC might as well arrest each and everyone of us, 'because there is no clean animal in the cage; we are all dirty".
EFCC should change their name to The Nigerian ZOMBIES.
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big B
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OSHKOSH: How can you respect or give credit to a man that is being controlled by a remote control?
I respect a man who stands for his belief, not a man that is being used as a tool; Such a man is called dummy.
Think about it.
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Odeku (m)
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Dummy or no Dummy Ribadu will nail Adenuga, why is he on the run and RIbadu Kudos keep up the good work. all Nigerians with brains hail thee. Only In Adenuga globalcom do people invest 25% with no known name or beneficiaries.
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big B
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ODE: Calm down; believe me, it's not that serious, You seem to be turning this discussion forum to a market place.
I know it's a difficult task, but let's try to stay focused and be civilized. The main purpose of this forum is to discuss and share knowledge with one another.
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sirify (m)
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What has Ribadu done? When was globacom started, Adenuga, IBB, Atiku has all been existing since 1999 why is it now that there is a noticable enemity between Baba Obasanjo and Atiku (and by extension to all those close to him) that EFCC is now beginning to root out different things and allegations.
What about other corrupt government officials and businessmen or is that EFCC is not seeing them or is not aware that they exist.
What is EFCC waiting for, to throw those that ran down SGBN (lets not call names) into jails and throw away the keys. Those guys used people money to run election.
Examples of corrupt officials/businessmen are everywhere but until EFCC shows it is impartial I guess we look at other people for the award of Times Man of the year
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woleprof (m)
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i am very suprised at the wierd attitude of some people. Long ago, we have been impoverished, our treasury looted and cart away in foreing land. Without hope.
But now, God is using a man of respect and charater to deal with those criminals. Yet people wont support him. Why! why!! why!!!
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big B
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Please, please please, God is not using anybody, Mr EFCC is nothing, absolutely nothing but a mere political weapon.
OBJ is practically using this weapon to punish folks that did not support the 3rd term. For instant, how come Mr EFCC did not investigate the OYO state political issue? They chased an elected governor out of the office, because of what? How do you explain that?
FYI: LADOJA did not support 3rd term
How come Mr EFCC doesn't bother to attack corrupted people like Adedibu who still exist in our society degrading the system?
FYI: ADEDIBU supported the 3rd term with his soul.
If Mr EFCC wants to impress Nigerians, the first person to be arrested should Mr president himself.
There is no saint in the cage, They are all dirty
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sirify (m)
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Because, he is selective in his action.
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Odeku (m)
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This kind of attitude this people ate exerting is the same reason we will suffer, Now i see why people like Umaru Dikko said Nigerians are not suffering until they start eating out of dust bin. we have a man that is trying to prevent that, and now people are saying he is selective. is there a way to please a Nigerian? why is it that the only people in this forum that like the wonderful job Ribadu is doing are people oversears?
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Big B1 (m)
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Because you guys get most of your information from the internet, You need to see for yourself.
You remind me of a hunter who has never been to the jungle before, but describes how he's going to kill a lion from his living room.
It is impossible to see what we see unless you live in the jungle.
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LoverBwoy (m)
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If Mr EFCC wants to impress Nigerians, the first person to be arrested should Mr president himself the EFCC did not invent the immunity clause if u catch one theif out of 40 thats good!! one by one u can do it all at once if u have evidence for the rest then |
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Mariory (m)
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Viva EFCC! May more crooks continue to be extracted from Nigerian society. May more criminal lives be ruined. May criminals continue to get so angry in their isolation that they do damage to themselves.
Amen.
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oshkosh (m)
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It will take an extremely braze man to bring change in any Nigerian sector. Some viewpoint on this thread shows why we are where we are as as a nation, and haven't changed for so long. Besides being extremely resistant to anything that works, we are all victims of manipulation and abuse of an extreme kind.
The alleged selectivity of Ribadu has been over-emphasized. Nigeria is in a state of decay and requires desperate measures to turn around. So whatever measures or criteria is applied by Ribadu is welcome, as long as it is effective in reducing curruption, even by 1%.
This find gentleman has gone after 419'ers, yahoo boys etc, yet I'm baffled by how some minds point to 'political' persecution as it that's all he is about. Without wanting to lay aspersions on those who hold these negative viewpoints on this remarkable man, it's most likely the fraudsters, political jobbers, politicians and general no-gooders in our midst that will hate Ribadu. And that is no surprise.
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Jackal (m)
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@ oshkosh, This is what i keep hearing from u and it makes me sad. If EFCC was designed to bring about 1% change then the purpose of setting it up has already been defeated. U have just confirmed that the very roots of EFCC reeks of failure, malice and double-standard. I think u r myopic to think anyone that hates Ribadu is a fraudster. This kind of statement only shows how shallow ur mentality is when u argue on a public forum. Ribadu goes after fraudsters and raid internet cafes but of what benefit is all these raids to the average Nigerian that lacks food, clothing and shelter? Why chase shadows when the major problems in Nigeria has not been addressed? Mass unemployment, inflation and development is what OBJ and Ribadu should channel their resources on. What do u really expect from a normal average Nigerian that has got no job to pay his bills and stuffs? These peops see CRIME as the only way out of hell and until FG of Nigeria addresses the roots of crimes they will be chasing shadows till thy kingdom come. OBJ/RIBADU/EFCC IS JUST AN ENDLESS STREAM OF PRETENTIOUS BULLSH*T and may they all fcuking rot and burn in HELL. @ odeku, I don't stay in Nigeria and i still hate EFCC so don't generalise that the only people in love with Ribadu are the people overseas. Who the hell is Ribadu? Ribadu ma ass n foot. Ribadu reminds me of a robocop infected with VIRUS. When we talk of Nigerians who are serving whole-heartedly then u should look in the direction of Dora Akinluyi-NAFDAC Director General. The only people Ribadu's ingenuity has been able to arrest are the ones that never supported OBJ's 3rd term bid. Can't ur nose smell a rat here?  @ Mariory, Read between the lines and tell us Ribadu's achievements. No one is saying criminals should be allowed to roam freely but Nigeria should set his priorities right. Nigeria should rather battle/tackle the major causes of acute poverty instead of acting like FBI/Scotland Yard. FBI/CIA thrives in the USA because there are jobs, food, shelter and clothing so they do not really expect anyone to cross the line and commit crime. Crime will continue to thrive in a country like Nigeria where the government has neglected his primary responsibilities to provide social security for its citizens. How many University graduates secure decent jobs after completing their B.Sc/M.Sc degrees in Nigeria? U got alot to learn, mate! |
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oshkosh (m)
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@Jackal, You can live abroad and stilll posses mentality of a village chimp as you have shown . You can take a monkey out of the bush, well you know as the saying goes. I'm still convinced there is something about the night about you, at best you'll be one of the many sycophantic and opportunistic pro-IBB campainers now rearing their heads in the UK and the US. High time these dim wits are silenced for good, in the interest of our beloved nation. I stated earlier, and state again for the records, that Ribadu is God's gift not only to Nigeria but to mankind, , the possible damage he is doing to your livlihood notwitstanding, |
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Jackal (m)
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Only imbeciles and human-mutts reason the way u think and i am not surprised. The only major diagnosis i see in u is ur lack of exposure and low level of intelligence quotient. Ribadu is a hydra-headed monster distracting the populace from seeing the ineffectiveness of OBJ's government. I don't expect a nit-wit like u to understand these things because ur level of reasoning is extremely shallow. Maybe i should just sit back and watch the way u spew balderdash and nod in disbelief. If u marry a fool like u the u will produce idiots. My advice: get a shrink and do a psycho-evaluation test.  |
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Big B1 (m)
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JACKAY: Oshkosh is my boy, he's not what you think, he's extremely deep and well informed.
Guys, we need to slow down a bit and keep this discussion simple. Trust me, we all can learn one or two things if we can just stop being offensive toward one another.
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Odeku (m)
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oshkosh and jackal please lets take a minute to cool down, the issue is we can agree to disagree, haba people lets stop the name calling , jackal i must disagree with you on this if Ribadu is eliminating 1% as oshkosh said, that is good news for Nigeria and will attracts foreign investors. you can't have fraudsters all over and criminals and you expect people to come and save you. This white people will look at you and laugh at you. so in conclusion, Ribado is doing a wonderful job.
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Jackal (m)
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@ Odeku,
I disagree with u on the foreign investor factor.
One edge OBJ has is the fact that he is a democratic President which pleases the international community as a whole.
IBB never had the same opportunity because he was a Military President/Dictator so foreign investors were not willing to come to Nigeria because the country wasn't stable politically.
There are fraudsters everywhere.
I don't know why y'all guys think Nigeria is the number one country where u have scammers.
There are scammers in Russia, Eastern European blocs and South East Asia as well so don't black-list Nigerians as fraudsters.
Romanians, Algerians Bulgarians and Russians run the channels here in UK and it has not stopped foreign investors in Nigeria.
Shell, Chevron and Halliburton just to mention a few are in Nigeria so it's not about fraud. Its about the economic + political factor.
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oshkosh (m)
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Ha ha Haba Jackal, take am easy with me na, abi na so? Na only me one you pack all that abuse give, chei,
Anyway, jokes apart, it's obvious we're equally passionate about our views, abeit on other sides of the argument.
It's not in question that the current anti-curruption drive is not perfect. But it's a welcome beginning, , . I believe that leaders now think twice before they loot, it used to be theft with inpunity. Some leaders I know personally are now having sleepless nights, worrying on how to move their money away from prying eyes of the banks and EFCC, it used to be theft with inpunity, in this case these are people with no issues with OBJ or PDP, they are just greedy kleptomaniacs. This fear in itself is the begining of wisdom and a welcome development for our fledging economy.
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Odeku (m)
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Imagine without EFCC people like TAFA BALOGUN, ALAM and the EKITI GOVERNOR will be parading themself as good citizens of Nigeria, this people are stealing hard currency not naira, Naira is useless, people talk in hard currency, and the root of all this evil is IBB MR corruption.
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DaddyO (m)
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We should introduce firing squad for graft, line up IBB, Atiku and the likes of them, shekena. This will server as a serious deterant. In the meantime, Ribadu's the best we've got. I'm with you on that oshKosh, he's got my vote.  |
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Jackal (m)
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@oshkosh,
I stay in the UK and i see this politicians.
People are still stealing but in a very coded dimensions.
Do u know looters now use front-men to launder stolen funds?
These front-men come into the UK with money, buy expensive stones like diamonds and platinum and take it back to Nigeria.
In this new way, no trace or evidence can link the looters because there's no bank transaction whatsoever.
People are still looting EFCC or no EFCC so i don't really see the impact.
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oshkosh (m)
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Agreed money laundering will always be with us, and exists even in the most developed and regulated economies, including the UK and the US. The fact that they have to do this to conceal trail shows that the battle is having an effect. So your statement supports our argument.
Back in the day, these corrupt despots will move limitless funds with reckless impunity from one Nigerian account to the UK and vice versa.
The fact is that we should have a society where people should account for the source of their funds. One of the reasons we are in the UK (yes I'm here too) is because of the overall benefits of these regulations to the overall quality of life in nations like the UK and the US, otherwise.
So the point is, money laundering will never be eradicated, never. But we've got to do what we can to discourage theft and misappropriation of funds - especially public funds.
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Oxygen (f)
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Odeku i can see you are reasoning like most well meaning Nigerians,i mean the real Nigerians,who are home and know whats going on here. It's sad that some people have decided to build a large bill board across their faces such that they can't see good works Ribadu is doing even at the expense of his security. If anyone decides to see Ribadu as aBulldog Of the Powers That Be,let them sit thigt and ask themselves this questions; Are the acclaimed victimised(OBJ's Enemies) really guilty?  Has EFCC ever picked or harassed anyone who does not have anything in his cupboard,either declared or concealed? ? if you can find the candid answers to these questions,then double thumbs up forRibadu As for those who cannot see what he is doing,i suggest they all visit an optician in turns. Well meaning Niajas,never mind when the table turns round,it will be the turn of OBJ's Friends to be bulldogged. |
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oshkosh (m)
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Oxygen re-iterates the point we've all been making, I use the word reckless inpunity to describe the attitude of our leaders, they deprive the masses of their wealth, then invest their loot in the purchase of bullet proof vehicles, mansions in Nigeria and Europe, and then have the guts to vie for political office again by campaigning with stolen funds. What an affront on the senses. To be honest, I have a lot more sympathy for armed robbers in our streets than for these crooks.
I was at an event in Nigeria recently and sat very close to a serving governor, what appalled me was his retinue of security aids , police, navy, airforce etc, This is a man whom I know personally to be a billionaire in dollars with no descernable source of income and nothing to show for it in his state, This would never happen in a civilized society, yet we complain about Ribadu!!
This selfishness, greed and lack of conscience is staggering. Even in it's imperfect form, the EFCC, with Ribadu at it's helm, is doing a sterling job and gets 100% of my support.
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Odeku (m)
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oshkosh , intelligent and interesting point, but no matter how we put it , some people will not change their mind and views on Ribadu.
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Jackal (m)
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@ oxygen.
You are still beating a dead horse with your questions.
Why should there be a law for OBJ's friends and anutha law for OBJ's enemies.
This is not a question of whether the accused were guilty of their crimes or not.
Afterall, the government is capable of making us believe whatever they want us to.
I am educated/smart enough to know if Obasanjo decides to make someone an enemy of the state then u shall become one.
OBJ ordered the FBI to search Atiku's mansion in the United States and what was found? Nuthing!
Had it been in Nigeria, The po-po/EFCC would have planted something to implicate Atiku.
OBJ's game is up and he is doing everything to stop potential presidential candidates by unleashing RIBADU(robocop) on them.
Every politician in Nigeria is guilty so EFCC should cage everyone and not only OBJ's political enemies.
The issue here is EFCC should also make frantic efforts to bring OBJ's friends to book.
I am absolutely sure EFCC wouldn't have arrested any politician if all the politicians in Nigeria supported OBJ's 3rd term bid.
All the people being caged right now are suffering because they did not support OBJ's idea of remaining in power and EFCC is being used as a tool/device to lock people up.
How fair is EFCC? It is the most-corrupt commision ever established in the history of Nigeria.
It's a commision designed for vendetta against OBJ's adversaries.
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oshkosh (m)
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Opposition of IBB and Atiku to 3rd term should not attract automatic credit of moral high standing to them. The opposition was driven entirely by their own ambitions. How else would he, Abubakar Atikrook, have realized his God giving destiny of presiding over Nigeria and all her oil!! This is the only man in the history of the world to convert 31.000 naira to 3 billion US dollars without a clear line of business.
He is just as bad, if not worse than IBB. The other day I saw his sponsored newspaper propaganda of how he "rejected" 100 million transcorp shared offered him. This is the height of cynicism. The reason he rejected the shares, if at all, is that Transcorp is way to 'open' for him to be involved in. Why should he put his stolen money in a company that will be open to prying eyes. Besides with the billions he has saved up in Switzerland, why should he bother with a registered company and all the exposure and 'grief'
Please, if we do not have the facts, lets stop commenting. Atiku's incredible greed is legendry. You'll be amazed at the number of oil blocks he has acquired for next to nothing and passed on to US multinational corporations for billions of dollars. This is fact. Whilst I'm not a major OBJ fan, it's tiring hearing the endless condemnation of OBJ and his farms, yet mute on the stupendiously rich but extremely secretive and manipulative politicians like Atiku masquerading themselves as saints and saviour of the people, spare us please!!
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Big B1 (m)
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JACKAL: Ride on. I have nothing else to say, You've hit the nail on the head. It is amusing that there are still some Nigerian dolts (ODEKU) around that still can't see this shady strategy of our vindictive, unprofessional, uninformed and corrupt president.
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