All Black People Descended From Africa #2

I am trying to be rational here. I think what Dru and Sista are saying is this, all black people should be united. In as much as they are not encouraging the bad things the Black men/women do, they are saying there is also bad in the white man. I hope I am right? They ain't encouraging laziness, not encouraging joblessness in the 'brotha' or 'sistas'. Alls, I think they are saying so far is this, if everyone is given the same opportunity like the average white person is, they'll come out good. Hence the example about the white kids that want to kill themselves.

Anyway, most of the Nigerians here, might not understand where Sista and Dru are coming from. Most of us, came here some few years ago. When we have grown enough to learn to resist racism and all. They on the other hand, grew up here, experienced it and the experience is quite different for us all.

Take me for example, I am the only black, female engineer where I work. It is so easy to blame everything they do to me at work on the fact that I am black. But, since I have not experienced racial comment before, I can not say the white men I work with are bad. Until someone make a stupid comment, then I'll learn to distance myself from the person. At the end of the day, we should try and be united and love each other.

True we should stop blaming others about things that happen to us, but at the same time, if you have never experienced something, you don't know how bad it is.

So Dru, Aburo Davidi, Sista, seriously aburo Damygirl (because I am like ten years older than you,  ), and all the other contributors on this topic, make we all love each other.

Peace!

tsk, tsk, tsk, why did I even bother. Drusilla, you might want to actually read the book before condemning it. The book was about life before the white man came and a man's struggle to preserve aspect of his culture he didn't want destroyed by the increasing arrival of Europeans.
If you want to shift goal post, at least do it more discreetly. This is what I wrote to your fellow Sista: And now you write:
(1) if you can read what I wrote, it clearly stated that colonialism increased the oppression of women. (2) The crux of the book focuses on the cultural practices that were around before Europeans arrived. As well as Okonkwo's--the main character-- battle of trying to preserve aspects of his culture that he feared losing after Europeans began to arrive.

It seems all our discussions always have something in common: Your inability to comprehend what people are discussing with you. I know others have pointed it out before, but I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt.  There's a handful of resources out there for you to learn about African countries if that is really your aim, i.e.  http://www.onlinenigeria.com/links/adv.asp?blurb=150  but I doubt that's what you're here for. Obviously to push an agenda, but not to learn. Cause people who refuse to take criticism will never learn. And twisting and turning people's words and changing directions when you can't address what people write is no way to have a discussion. And a waste of time.

@ davidylan
I wouldn't waste my time. These people have an agenda to push. And no amount of sensible talk will suffice.

This thread has degenerated into a forum of squabbles, designated to pick apart certain groups in the society. Unfortunately, some people seem to harbor resentment towards one racial group of past wrongs. Get a grip!!!. Life is not fair. Forgive and move on with your life.

www.NigerianMemories

Why don't you tell us, give us some history on why he was even there in the first place? The white man did to Nigeria what he did to Rwanda. Same old story, divide and conquer.

By the way, I see that you are still hanging out in this discussion, glad you are still here after you said you were through.

@ Davidylan




Oh please davidylan, don't try to act like your concerned with black people coming together because you have not been positive from the beginning of this discussion. When you did the sister and brother thing, you began the straying of this topic, you did that all by your self.

Sense then ,you have not said anything good about black people.

This is a prime example of why blacks can not get along, we judge each other and use the white man as an example to compare too. Divide and conquer, we are the result of divide and conquer. I have told you over and over I want to have peace with you. I told you,  I love you. I embraced you in conversing with you each time you come to this thread. I have even defended you and you can not forgive me for not agreeing with you. I told you before we don't have to agree, but we should respect each other. You have not been sincere about this topic, not at all. You have an ulterior motive or you just don't have anything else to do.


Again, you are disappointed with black people, you blame them for what is happening in Nigeria.
You are dividing yourself from me. You are allowing the divide and conquer brainwash process to ferment each time you put the white man on the pedestal. Divide and conquer.

 Divide the subject and turn them into subjects. Make one feel that he is better than the other, make the light skin one the better one and the dark skin one the worse one. How you do this is, leave Leave them alone but leave the light skin one in charge. The dark skin one will hate the the light skin one because he thinks the light skin one thinks he is superior, being like the divider and taking on the dividers ways and characteristics,  Voila, what do you have? A people who will do all that they can do to prove that he is better, they constantly fight each other. The one in charge (light skins) will be the winner because he is in charge of all the resources, he will make life bad for the dark skin ones because if he does not do that to them, they will do that to him, so he thinks. The dark skin people will forever be poor because that is the light skins way of enforcing that he will always be on top. The Irony is, they are the same people. Some of them just have different facial characteristics but because they have been divided, they don't see each other as the same.

 Now, the divider can come in and get all the resources he wants because the light skin one hates the dark skin one and now he does not care if what he gives the divider will make the dark one suffer. The light skin one cares more about pleasing the divider because the divider made the right choice in leaving him in charge. In his mind, the divider must have known the the dark skin ones were evil. Meanwhile, many years has gone by and the subjects have forgotten or never realized it was the divider who started this corruption of a people. As a result, the light skin ones are still in charge and they are still good friends with the divider. The dark ones are on the outside looking in. The dark skin ones suffers economically so he has time to think about why his life is so bad. He remembers what the divider did. He tells the light skins about the conspiracy to ensure that the divider will always profit from thee exploitation of the light skins and the dark skin people who are One in the same. The light skin does not want to hear of it because he is brainwashed and he thinks this is a ploy to overtake the light skin ones. He shuns the dark skin to the point of sometimes death. This is the result of divide and conquer, the never ending cycle.
Divided we stand, Divided we will fall.

The end


 By the way what do you mean ethnic intolerance is what caused the problem in Rwanda? You have to explain that. When you say something like that it can't just be a statement, you have to give some fact, you have to enlighten me. Other wise what you said can be looked at as a way for you to pretend like you know what you are talking about.

@gigitte

Yes gigette, I am aware of that but I was trying to give Davidylan a chance to make any sense of what he said.

Bhola,

It is sad that every time one says: loving blacks some people only hear: hating the whiteman.

It took 600 years for us to get into this situtation, we have to have patience for us to get out of it.

Excellent post.

@ drusilla

abeg we preferred to be called yorubas oh, not yorubans
thks!

gigette,

Thank you for the correction. Your the second person to correct my American pluralization of the Yoruba's. I am going to work harder to get it right and not be offensive. Please forgive my ignorance on this matter. Smile.

I agree w/ drusilla. All blacks descend from Africa (or have you guys gone completely off topic?).


I know this probably have nothing to do w/ me 'cause i'm Nigerian not African American but we're all black so it doesn't really matter.

Sista,

What Davidlyn means is this:

Africans are just animals whose culture is so sick and evil, that every once in a while, like animals, Africans go mad and become rabid and attack each other. This is the definition of ethnic battles in Africa.

Any ideas that a right thinking person might have that battles in Africa center around the same things battle elsewhere center around: i.e. money and power will be rebuked by the Davidlyn's of the world.

They instinctly understand that when one talks of a battle over "money and power" in Africa, one is talking about "white folks" and the mess they left in Africa and the mess they continue in Africa to this present day.

So he would rather have you think of Africans as evil animals who just attack each other in some bizarre ethnic cultural thing sorta related to cannibalism and witchcraft and all the other things associated with African culture in the western mind, when you say tribe or ethnic group or tribal affiliation.

This is what is always meant when you hear the code words: "african ethnic battles, african tribal fights, etc".

The same as you know a person is saying: Black people, when they say "innercity or high risk".

Using the old language game and other word games noted in earlier posts, to cover up what he really means.

It's a form of deception using langauge.

both sides have good points.

Davidlyn,

Answer this question.

Africans have over a billion acres of useable farmland on the continent and have the highest amount of resources in the world.

Why is it that some Africans are starving most live in absolute poverty and Africa has less than 2.5 percent of the world's wealth?

Here are the possible answers:

A.) Afrocentrics say that this situtation is due to the last 600 years of rape, murder, slavery, imperialism, oppression and robbery by the whiteman on the continent. No area of Africa has went unaffected even though it was different European groups who did it and different cultures affected by it.

B.) Whites say that this situtation is due to Africans being backwards and in need of an education. (dumb and primitive animals). Africans should be grateful the whiteman came and took on the burden of the blackman and fed them or else the blackman would have died off by now.

Please pick the answer that you feel is correct. I have excluded any other possible answers, as any other possible answers are not part of the debate in academic circles.

lol. Yes. and when Comprehension level of a supposed "favorite author's" book is at it's lowest and the same level of comprehension is displayed in a public discussion, one can simply laugh and understand why silence is often the best answer.

@ Drusilla

Yes, most European languages have tricks in them especially English The white man pretends to be honest but he is not and he can always rely on the subtle indirectness of his words.

Do you remember in the movie Amistad?

The lawyer was telling the African he might be able to get him back to Africa,remember that?

Remember the white lawyer said yes, maybe and might,

The African said "what do you mean maybe or might? What do you mean?

The lawyer thought he was crazy so he said "I may be able to get you back or I may not be able to get you back"

"The African said you either can get me back or you can't, it is either yes you can or no you can't. I don't understand"

Finally the African said "In Africa we don't have words that mean might or maybe, you either will or you won't,  Now what is the answer? Yes you will get me and my people back to Africa or no you can't"

Finally the White lawyer said, "I will try my best, I will try my best to convince them"

I don't know why the African finally understood but something about that convince word made him understand.

See if you say you may be able to do something or you might not be able to that means you will give it some thought. Giving it some thought usually means if I don't have something else important to do and important can range from anything.

Might or maybe gives you an in and an out at the same time and that in Africa is usually a sign of dishonesty, That is why they didn't have a word for might or maybe, They probably do now though

I hear you, davidylan. The discussion lost it's flavor a while ago and that's probably when I should have checked out. It's too bad that we could have spent all that energy and time sharing ideas and exchanging wisdom (maybe ways to actually improve things for black people). But we've wasted it all on "hate whitey" and "reasons to hate whitey". I, of course, now know better than to assume anyone's capable of reasonable discussion. Cheers.