All Black People Descended From Africa #2

@everybody
I can see "sistas and brodas" hatin in each other already. If we don't love ourselves who will?

Daviddylan

That is the problem you have right there, you analyze to much. When ever someone says something you don't agree with you begin to analyze it doing your best to find fault.

In response to what you said about the white man, How would black people feel if he went around voicing how proud he is to be white? First of all I don't think the white man would do that because he has nothing to be proud about.

Secondly, this mess about a real cat and a fake cat. I am not going to go there with you because that is one of your tricks I am not going to fall into. I already explained to you what I feel a real African man is as far as respecting women and children.  I know that you are going to try and dismantle all that I say so you have fun,  I have no fear.

Why are you talking about Asian, Hispanics and all the other people? My subject matter was about black people loving each other. That is probably the problem you had. When you here black people saying they love each other, you see that as hating everyone else. You don't have to hate everyone else to love yourself but you do have to love yourself before you can love anyone else. You remind me of some kind of spy trying to prove some type of emotional point.

Do you have a wife or girlfriend who is not black? I am starting to wonder,   I don't know what your situation is but whatever it is you should be proud of it. You should not be in a situation where you feel strongly about something you constantly look for an oppopportunity prove. If you are happy, you don't go looking for an popportunity prove that everyone is narrow minded. That is all I have to say. I will no longer keep going back and fourth with you.

PS

You have not gone back far enough in your history. Yes Africans did beat their wives and do all the things you said they did but that was after the imposed religious indoctrination by whites on blacks. It was the religious acceptance that made the woman lower than the man and that is why blacks all over the world are lost. We have lost everything including our spirituality. Only the real Africans the ones who have found their self or was never lost can contribute to helping the lost minds of black people.

You sound very Angry, you are an Angry black man who does not sound like he loves his people, black people.

and what would the black man have to be proud of that the white man does not have?

IT IS NO TRICK! It's simply an analogy to prove how weak your "real african man" theory sounds! If you have a "real" then there must be a "false" else modern english has lost its meaning.
You explained what you FEEL a real african man is as far as "respecting women and children",
1. it is simply your FEELING. it has not been proven yet.
2. Is the African man the only man capable of respecting women and children? Is the white, asian, mullato man not also equiped to respect his women and children? Are even animals not equiped with the same ability? Does that make them "real white men" or "real animals"? Our ancestors beat their wives, made them inferior to men in the home, do we go back to that to prove "our real african" nature?


Nope. I am not angry neither do i dislike "my people"! I want to go home, i want to see my country again, see my friends and family one more time. I want to raise my kids in the african environment i was raised that keeps me from divorcing my wife after 3 minutes marriage, having my kid swear at me and all that nonsense that happens in the white world in the name of "freedom". But does that mean i have to carry the "my people, my race, my color" albatross around my neck? Must my race define every single step i take in society?

It is only blacks who accuse their fellows of having lost their identity. how and why?

all this your vociferous statements is sort of purblind, am sorry but I have to confess, you strike a picture of an inexperienced person. You 've been wasting a lot of your time with whites who pretends to be politically correct, you lack the power of cogitation, or how else can I explain your ignorance, do you surfer from not knowing, yeah few of our African brothers that comes from Africa to the west are easily deceived with the level of pretext in the west, how else can you say this;


I will advice you to stroll to WHITE SUPREMACY FORUM, or rather travel to RUSSIA {as brother I will rather advice you not to}they would not only tell you that, but they would kill your ass,  I tryed very hard to desuetude my self of further  discursion with you but your level level of ignorance is cumbersome.

Nintofive, Where do you live?

For Nintofive:

Ahh, I wish you were not so far,

Even though you are far away, you will always be in my heart.

nintofive:

Where at in the UK do you live and how old are you?

 How old are you? You seem to be so mature but from what I can see a lot of the people in here  are mostly young people.


Don't get me wrong though, I think it is wonderful that young people can express their self on any level.

Nintofive:


If I do that You would have to allow me to Email you. I don't want to be stroking your ego in this discussion area.

You can go to my profile and get my email address. You can email me first so I can get your email address becasue your email adress is blocked in your profile.

That is if you want to.

Well i was born and breed in Nigeria.
The only people i ever heard calling themselves bros or sister were related to each other one way or the other  mostly "Uneducated" people
And
Girls that deny they have a boyfriend and say its their brother.
Its only in germany that Nigerians call me sister  but that is more of  identification

@ Sista , I do not think that the blacks selling blacks knew what slavery in the USA was all about.
They too had slaves but the slaves were not getting the same horrible treatment as they were in the USA.
If they had, maybe less people would have traded in slaves.
The idea in your post is a good idea but it cannot work out.
my sister lives in the USA and he informed me that over there even the blacks discriminate among them selves, on the shed of black, from red to i have forgotten the teams she used.
How black are mixed people  by the way (For fellow blacks)
At least for the white man all are black  or not??

Guys! Guys! Guys!, why not try to understand the point Sista is coming from. If you read the topic you will see clearly that she was trying to say blacks all over the world no matter were they are from should try and cooperate and be united and see themselves as one.

Instead of critiquing every word or statement she makes like you are some professor trying to grade her paper, you should contribute your own opinions as to how blacks can be more united. Do we always have to quarrel and bicker when constructive ideas would do more good.

@ 9to5
You absolutely deserve what is reserved for fools, silence!

@ sista,

You are merely indulging yourself in romanticized fantasies (if i may borrow Nia's usage of that phrase). What do you really mean by my having ulterior motives? That i did not suddenly jump on the bandwagon and support your ill-constructed fantasies about "real african men"?
I will digress a little to use certain examples that may not be directly related to this topic but which i think will shed more light as to my point of view.
As mamaput rightly explained, in the Nigeria i lived in the only people who called themselves "brotha and sista" where either directly related or members of an extended family. I nor my myriad of friends ever refered to each other as brotha or sista! It was when i came to this country i began to notice the trend! This idea (i may be wrong) must have been the black man's idea of seeking solidarity amongs each other duriing the slave era, as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friedn - brotha in this case!

A few months ago, Stanley Tookie Williams was convicted of murder, i was shocked to see the number of black people who quickly rallied to free him! Why? Because he was innocent? Or because he was simply a "brotha"? What would have been our reaction if ALL whites rallied to free a member of the KKK accused of murdering a black individual? Since when did racial solidarity supercede the enforcement of justice?

A few weeks ago, killings were so rampant in my town at least 5 deaths were recorded in the space of a few days. The killings have been largely black on black, however the police has been stymied in solviing this cases because residents of such black communities rather than cooperate with the police decided to start wearing "don't snitch" T-shirts! Why? Simply because the murderers were black? Does racial solidarity now take precedence as to allow murderers to walk our streets unchallenged? What if whites started wearing "don't snitch" T-shirts?

I do not understand the "pressing need" for blacks wherever they are to immediately seek racial solidarity. This to me smacks of an inferiority complex and a great need to feel part of a community to feel accepted. I love my color and i love my race, but i do not feel a pressing need "prove" it! 9to5 claims i need to go to white supremacy sites to see whites who are fiercely proud of their color, unfortunately you are looking not at the mainstream but at the extreme end of the prism. You need to view the broader picture.

It is only black people whine on about the paucity of "real black men" to marry "strong black women". what is a "real african man"? That is a question we are yet to find a cogent answer to. What is a "strong black woman"? Are there weak ones too? Most people who feel the pressing need to identify with their race every waking second of their lives would likely swap their "strong black" skin for a white one in a jiffy where it possible. How many africans do we see today attempting to ape the white man's way of speaking?
Many of us do not want to be seen as speaking our mother tongues, we consider it vernacular?  I have never heard of chinese people telling their kids not to speak mandarin!
Blacks speak "ebonics", we dress like gangsters, we have been swallowed by a rap culture that was never a part of the lives of our ancestors, our women would not want to braid their hair anymore, prefering to wear them with wigs and extensions just so it can look like that of a white womans and we claim to love our race. If there are "Real african men", then there must be "Real african women", our mothers never insulted their husbands, were submissive to them ( a thing that is an anathema to the modern day "real strong black woman"), took care of the home and generally knew their place as inferior to their husbands. Today it is easy to overlook that part and rather focus on the role of the "Real african man"!

Very true Idek as my mom and uncles happen to be igbo and use the phrase to refer to their tribes people! However i am yet to see them extend the same phrase to a yoruba man or hausa! don't they have the same skin colour too?

The igbo usage is not based on race but on tribal solidarity, most traditional igbos (of yesteryears) lived in a communal setting where most all their neighbors where members of a larger extended family. Would they call an Osu (caste system) brotha?

To All:

Someone said in this post in Igbo the usage of Brother or Sister is proper. Who knows, weather anyone believes this or not, many blacks in  America have manage to hold on to some of the ways or our ancestors. It should be understandable why we make use of Brother and Sister.

However, the topic of this discussion has been interrupted. We have gotten way off of the topic and I wish to redirect back to the topic.

Please, the topic was not about the Usage of Brother and Sister. Daviddylan asked about the usage of brother and sister but he did not contribute or ask anything about the topic.

Please let's not turn this topic into the usage of words, that is so petty and I can't believe it went this far.

I still have not heard anything good about black people in this discussion. All I keep hearing is negativity and this is starting to make me wonder, are black people headed for extinction?

We don't seem to love our self and all we do is fight. A sister in here said that blacks in America are killing each other. Well, blacks all over the world are killing each other. The question is what are we going to do about it, are we going to turn our backs and walk away?

I have been reading the Nigerian news, a lot of black on black killings are taking place there as well. They may not be fighting for the reasons blacks fight and kill in America but the point is they are fighting and killing, please lets focus on that.

Before someone mentions it, I know that blacks killed blacks when they used to war against each other back in the old times, not saying that it was right then but what I am saying is we blacks now are killing over, we want the money or the fame or we want to be accepted. But, most of the killings are taking place because we have been horribly manipulated.

How can Africa be the richest continent and the people who live there are poor? Before someone mentions it, I know that not all Africans are poor but there are far more poor than there is rich. I am not just talking about one part of Africa I am talking about all over Africa.

 I  This is just my opinion and please correct me if I am wrong but it seems like we don't care about Africa anymore. We want to move to the UK and to America. We want to become more white.

I gave a Nigerian friend of mine a picture of Black Jesus and she was shocked to see one because all she knew was a white Jesus. She took her black Jesus home and hung it on the wall. Her friend from Ghana insulted the picture saying it was ugly and to take it down. This is what I mean by we want to become white we don't like black, Africa. Yeah sure we talk about back home, we talk about how we want to go back and see our family's but would we go back if our family's were not there?

I could see if when we moved we were taking the money we made in America or the UK and putting it back into Africa but that is not what we are doing. We leave Africa and don't come back unless we are visiting.

Has anyone thought about the AIDS conspiracy on blacks. AIDS was created in a lab to eliminate blacks. Why is it that where ever AIDS is in Africa, that is where most of the resources are? I am telling you, they want Africa and it's entirety. Are we going to let this happen? Are we going to trade Africa in for the ways of the white man?

It will be difficult to find "good black brothas (that word again)" when the black male role models are confined to P Diddy, Usher, Tupac, G Unit, 50 cents and other drive by shooting gangsters!

i know Benjamin Carson, i have meet him before, he was a speaker at my university
its true people don't hear or know much about him
he is a very inspiring person /good role model, we need more people like him