All Black People Descended From Africa #2

@ sista to answer one of your question  you do know that there was slavery in africa even before the whites came there. so if you gon blame the whites you should blame the blks too. all them rich folks in those days had slaves and they treated them as bad as the white folks did. infact slavery still exist in Africa.

@Damygirl



I am aware that there was slavery in Africa before the Whites came but does that justify whites taking Africans as slaves?

Just like Africans was enslaving their own people, white people should have enslaved their own people.

It wasn't the African who had white slaves.

It wasn't the Asian man who had white slaves.

It wasn't the Native American who had white slaves and look what the white man did to them? You don't see one red Native American face on this planet anymore, those people are pretty much extint. They died before they would submit to the white man and look around you, America is a white mans land now, he completly took over and put the Native American Indians out. 

 In the books that I read, slavery in Africa was not for ever until you die. You had so many years to be a servant to your master and then you were set free. You could also marry out of slavery. Slavery in Africa was more like indentured slavery you had to work for a living for so many years, you just did not get to choose who you worked for. That is what I read. Maybe we could exchange some book titles. I am going to get my book titles together for you, can you do that for me?

When whites came and took blacks from Africa, they raped the African women, would not let her bath afterwards. Packed them like cattle on ships, even little baby's were on those ships for several days, some of them died and was thrown into the ocean. Pregnant women were on those ships. Africans had to
sh--t on each other and pee on each other for several days. The whites would starve them and then finally feed them crumbs, they would watch as Africans ate and then make fun of them, saying they looked like starved animals as they ate. After they ate, the whites would hose them down with sea salt water, complainging about how bad they smelled. I think I would smell bad too if I were covered in sh-t and pee. They took away their African names, their African religion and their African everything. They split up their family's and they forced their self into the African blood line. Africans were not doing this to each other when they enslaved each other and as I said, at least they did not have to be enslaved by an African for the rest of their life. Whites kept you working as a slave until you died, if you could still walk, you could still work.

Slavery still exists all over the world not just Africa. I am not disputing that slavery does not exists, I am disputing the form in which white people chose. They chose to take other people as slaves and when they took these people they took their entire ancestry away brainwashing them totally. 

If you are doing a job you don't like to do because you can not afford an education, you are a slave. The white man is not giving away education for free. The least of his worry's is education and healthcare for others. If you were not born rich like he was and if you did not steal your richeness like he did through exploitation of black people and someone rich did not will you something after their death, you are and will be a slave who is doing everything for a little of nothing, in order to be able to afford education and healthcare. If you are black and have  an education, you may still have to kiss some white a-s in order to get somewhere.

@ Nia
You haven't said anything but you have shown that you will, by anymeans necessary protect the white man. You had nothing good to say about black people.





@ Daviddylan
You are insecure with your beliefs, you are not sure what to believe. If you were sure, you would not be accusing me of forcing my revolution. I'm sorry, did I put a gun to your head and threaten you to believe anything I am saying?
You feel that I am forcing you because you are having a battle in your head. That battle is, "I know I should be black and proud and I want to be but what about whitey, he needs me" You want to be black and proud on one hand but on the other hand you don't want to let whitey down and your resentment towards black people fuels this battle in your head.
 
I am glad Drusilla saw what me and 9to5 saw. I let that situation go and I apologized to you if I upset you, I then moved on. Even though you started that 9to5 issue I forgave you but you can not seem to forgive me because you brought it up again and I have spoken with you sense that day, you showed no animosity towards me by continuing to converse with me. I can see now, that you are not sincere about anything except for to validate your resentment of black people and to validate all that white people have done and still do to this day.

 Humm, I bet if I were white, you would have forgiven the past problem we had, but I am black and as a rule you can not trust your own, huh?


@Drusilla
All I can do is say thank you Sister for being able to peep through muddy waters   they were indeed trying to ambush me. I am afraid If we were with a bunch of white people and Bush ordered them to kill me, they would have done it

But you know what? I am not mad at either one of them, I knew that I would get those types of responses from my own people, it hurts but pain is a part of the struggle. Without pain there is no appreciation. I knew this before I joined the struggle. I want to thank you again for pointing out what Davidylan was doing in that 9to5 discussion. I thank God for you.

 I also wanted to add, this may have been a little joke on your behalf, but I don't think Davidylan is a devil, nor is his father. I actually like him. If he didn't care, he would not have come back to this discussion. I think and I believe he is trying, he is just looking for some hard evidence that will convince him. His resentment towards his own people, (black people) is clouding his judgment. Most blacks who suffer from mentacide go through this, particularly when they are trying to come back to who they really are. We just have to believe in him, that someday he will come around.

Love

Sista

first of all slavery has ended. we got black people who own there own companies and hire white people to work for them. You guys gotta move on. you don't have to see slavery in everything. if a white guy has a company and blk fols gotta work there yall start hating on the white guy and see it according to you kissing some white a-ss. it ain't the white guys fault he didn't do drugs, skip school and have 5 baby mama before he finished high school. we blk are the racist not them. it's okay 4 a blk guy to call anotha blk guy negro or nigger but if a white guy refers to anotha blk guy that way they call him racist. they don't see us as negro or niggers, we see ourselves that way so in other wayz we r d ones enslaving ourselves.

@Damygurl
When I began this discussion board, I did not say anything about slavery. I just said that I was black and proud and that all black people needed to support each other. It was davidylan who got the discussion off track with the brother and sister thing. Then somebody said, I forgot who it was said that black people enslaved each other, as to say that justifies(white people) enslaving us because we enslaved each other. I know physical slavery for blacks is in the past. Now we have something new. It is called mental slavery, so let's deal with that.

You are doing that again. Black people call each other a nigga and when white people call it to us they are a racist.

Let me ask you this, If I spank my child does that give you a right to spank my child?


When black people call each other a Nigga we know that we are not white so the context in which we use the word is not the same meaning the white man uses it for. When white people hear us calling each other that, he knows for us it is just fun and games. He also knows that when we use that word we no longer see it for how they see it. In other words we took back the power of that word for us. When the white man calls us that word, it is his test to see if we will let him get away with it. If we allow him to call us nigger, he will think "Oh, he is a good nigger, he is cool, I can have my way with him" If we don't let him get away with it, he will see that as "That nigger hasn't been thouroughly brainwashed, I gotta watch him, he may not let me have my way"  Black people know that is what the white man is doing when he thinks these days he can call us nigga. Black people know the white mans test is to see if he can get away with calling us a nigger or nigga. No, the white man can not call us that because we call it to each other, he is not one of us, that is the difference.

 

I'm laughing my head off right now. Its obvious you are new here if not u'd have seen my real picture posted on my profile a few weeks back. I'm fulll blooded Nigerian, proud of my country no matter how bad.

That picture was of a soccer fan holding the french symbol of its national soccer team! A cock! during the FIFA world cup final!

Dear, don't let your mind run away from you. I wonder why i even went through all that to explain to you anyway!

Excellent observation mamaput (abeg your buka dey open?)

I remember meeting one of my white professors sometime in dec and he was pleasantly surprised that a black kid was doing a graduate program in the sciences (i'm already used to being the only black face around except when around the cleaners!  ), he was however not surprised that i came in Nigeria, as far as he is concerned black Americans are not interested in education. You can imagine that this is in a country where affirmative action is in place and they are constantly in search black africans!
My course director once lamented that the only applications he got from "minorities" where all from Africa! Unfortunately scholarships are oly available to americans so he can't take them.

A few months ago i was talking to my mom's childhood friend who told her colleagues i was doing a graduate program, guess what they all told her: that i was wasting my time, i'd be too educated to get an employment! What a backward way of thinking for those who are only too keen on blaming the poor white man for their every failing!

It is not enough sitting there and living off govt benefits, moaning about the injustice of the white man!

damygirl,

There was no "slavery" in Africa before the whiteman came. To use such a word for the various worker relationships in Africa is to misunderstand Africa or the different meaning for the word slavery as applied to Europe/America where the word comes from and the worker relationships in Africa.

As the top white expert on African slavery says: We do a disservice to Africa when using the word slavery in Africa, because in African society's the worker who was in servitude to the chief was no different than the worker who was not in service to the chief, except for the astounding fact that somebody in service "or slavery" to the king was considered far better off than the guy who did not work for the King.

Let us speak out of knowledge and not ignorance in the future.

There was slavery, killing of twins, human sacrifice, female circumcision , out casts, and no good rituals one of them A  Widow that was supceted of killing her husband had to drink the water the used to bath  his dead body . If a big king died his wives were buried with him alive or not. Old men marrying children.
And some of these things have not stopped to this day.

The key word is doing good.
What is good about trying to make us hate the white man

damygirl,

It was Davidlyn who first brought slavery up on this topic. Please address your comments to him about forgetting slavery.

Your comments that whites are doing better than blacks because whites are such great people, only proves, what any Afrocentric is completely aware of:

In your mind, you worship the whites who you consider gods and you hate the blacks who you consider devils.

Your pushing the christian religious view that blacks are doing horrible in this world because of evil within them, as is davidlyn.

That has been taught for 600 years. I expect it.

Nia,

Things fall apart was a book written almost 500 years after the whiteman first came to West Africa. How could it possibly be proof of the treatment of women in Africa before the whiteman came?

This book and the link you provided go an extremely long ways towards proving Sista's point that women were treated horribly after whites got there.

I am looking for evidence that would prove "women's inferiority" in Africa before the whiteman came.

Looking forward to the historical evidence in your reply. Thank you.

@ Mamaput

I made an accurate guess, you can go back and reread it. I said to you that I bet you were either married to a white man or dating one. After that I made the statement that you would be with a white man because you believe he has the money and therefore can rescue you from Africa. You then confirmed that you are married to a white man.


By the way, you don't know anything about blacks in America, all you know is what the white man has told you. See, you do believe everything the white man tells you.

May I ask you this? What study's have you done about blacks in America? What books have you read? Or do you believe that because you are mixed your black part does not have to concern you? 
You did tell me you were mixed.

sista u need to stop saying what the white man told you blah blah blah blah. what d heck does that mean anywayz?

Sista,

Thank you. Smile.

Hey people, whats the cursing all about? U don't need to curse each other, just give your comments and let others do likewise. Moreover whats been discussed now is quite far from the topic posted. don't think there is a reason to hate on each other on a topic like "All balck people descende from Africa".