Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?

unmask their eyes and mouths.

I was talking about picture. It has three young boys standing together in it, and he's taken a marker or something and scribbled out their eyes and mouths.

I don't want to be insulting, but this is patently false. In fact, the interior of southeast Nigeria was scrupulously avoided by missionaries, British adventurers etc. because of the lack of centralized political structures that could guarantee their safety while traveling. That's why there are so few documents describing the region in the 19th century versus the many missionary descriptions that exist of Abeokuta, Lagos, Calabar etc. Examples include Delaney's 'Search for a Place' (about travels in Abeokuta/Ibadan region by African-Americans looking to establish pan-African contacts and move back to Africa), Richard Burton's Abeokuta and the Camaroons Mountains (available online through Google Scholar and very informative, although it's undeniably racist), TJ Bowen's books and so on.


Ah--we get to the inspiration behind the strange claims in your post. The first book written in Igbo (with Roman characters) was written by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a Yoruba Christian and the first African Bishop. He also wrote the first Igbo dictionary, by the way. I'm not sure what to make of your comments about the founding of Port Harcourt etc., but in issues of Christianization, it was actually returnee Yorubas from Sierra Leone who led the way for all of southern Nigeria: http://www.cbcn.org/aspscripts/page1.ASP


I'll assume that your points about racial admixture in Enugu and a higher percentage of albinism in the southeast are opinions, as I've never heard of either from any scholarly source I know.

The most important correction I feel compelled to make is the idea that most African-Americans are descended from Igbos. African Diaspora historians have spent decades working on demographic studies now, so there are actually fairly precise figures about this stuff. The majority of the African-American population is not descended from Igbos or Yoruba--West-Central Africans from the Congo and Angola outnumber those other groups by far. To be sure, there were a high number of Igbos and others from the Calabar port (Ijaw, Ibibio, Efik, Ekoi etc.) that were transported to Virginia, and that colony had a distinctive Igbo cultural imprint among their ancestry. But Congo-Angolans predominated in South Carolina (one of the busiest ports of enslavement in the whole of the Americas, not just the US) and Bambaras from Mali predominated in Louisiana, as proven in prof. Gwendolyn Miller's "Africans in Colonial Louisiana" and in her work on several databases (which is where I get these figures from): http://www.bioethics.umn.edu/afrgen/html/Africansandtheirdescendantsintheamericas.html . Incidentally, the same groups (from modern Congo-Brazaville, Congo-Kinshasa, Angola, Gabon etc.) made up the majority of enslaved people in all countries in the Americas, and had by far the greatest cultural impact as a whole on music, food, language etc. Yorubas are well-identified as an influence, but are believed to have made up only about 10% of the African population in North and South America. Their dominant cultural influence in places like Brazil, Cuba, and Haiti has to do with the open and conglomerate nature of Yoruba religion, their relatively late arrival, and a greater sense of cultural cohesion due to centralized political identities in some places (kingdom of Oyo etc.) Igbos are quite prominent in the Jamaican population and in Caribbean populations in general, and there are many people of recent/traceable Hausa and Fulani ancestry in Trinidad and Guyana. Other Nigerian groups were extremely influential too--the Efik, Ibibio, and Ekoi bordering Cameroon were responsible for establishing the Abakua secret society as a Cuban version of the Ekpe fraternity in their homeland, and that has become one of Cuba's most distinctive forms of African heritage. To set the record straight, Nsibidi (meaning 'cruel letters' in their language) originated in this multi-ethnic Cross Rivers area among these people and later spread to Igboland alongside the Ekpe leopard fraternity.

History is my great love, and anthropology's my enduring passion as you can probably guess, so I take great joy and pride in setting the record straight. All this other stuff about facial recognition according to ethnic group is beyond me. I hope people can see why it should be taken with a grain of salt, as evidenced by the problems with the pictures showing people who were 'obviously' from one ethnic group when they were actually from another, but that's neither here nor there to me. I just don't like incorrect history being put out there, especially on the Internet where it spreads like wildfire.

I edited this post because I just read through the whole thread to understand exactly where you get your ideas from. It seems like you're familiar with some historical facts, but you've made some assumptions about facial types and racial heritage that just aren't true.

Where is the picture for Gods sake!

Please list numerically the specific genotypes and phenotypes that charcterize a so called Igbo. In your almighty superior estimation what traits constitute a so called Igbo. I await your secific and unrefutable response to my challenge.


What is the Igbo Gene? Please spefify the genetic markers that constitute the Igbo genes. I await your findings "Doctor'


So in your superior estimation Jada Pinketss so called white genes are recessive. Ok. PROVE IT. What traits in Jada Pinkett show that she is of Igbo descent. BE SPECIFIC. LIST WHAT MAKES SOMEONE LOOK IGBO AS YOU HAVE ARGUED SINCE DAY ONE THAT AA LOOK IGBO. So please show exactly WHAT THE mess LOOKING IGBO MEANS.


A half cast in this country is called Black or african american even if they have predominantly caucasian features. It is a remminant of institutionalized racism in America. Read a fucking book dumbass. Its not because some so called "black gene" was dominant in all cases. 20% of people classified as white in this country have African descendants and just "pass' as white. They look white yet have "black blood" in their genes.


Yet a Yoruba competed in Bayelsa state. How pray tell did a Igbo as you put her get a yoruba name?


You missed the point dumbass. My point is that contesting in a region's model contest doesnt mean you where originally from there. The Afrikaans of Duth descent who competed in several south African pageants where not originaly from South Africa. Capishe? Bene


I already challenged you to demonstrate and prove your so called theory. Thus far you have come out empty handed


Lets do it. hell I volunteer myself. This should be rich. I was born in Kaduna and my Father and family have been in Lagos but my ancestors where not originally from Nigeria. We traced our family tree to our original place of origin and we have documentation to prove it.

So far Terracotta is the only one that has posted any real sources with credible facts and theories on the matter of where most African American slaves came from



Nice try my brother. That section you refer to says 70% of Slaves at the time IN VIRGINIA; it says nothing of the other regions that had huge slave plantations like Maryland and others. Way to take a fact way WAY out of context. I call that pulling a GW (George W. Bush)

This thread has completely gone of topic and there is already a thread  that exist for this subject.

What gets me is most of you who are in this topic were also over in the other topic "Should Descendants of African Slaves Have Their Genes Tested"

We talked about how AA's look facially compared to some of the C/A's all that, pictures were asked for by me in order so that comparisons could be done. There are some pictures over there but not as many as their are in here and this topic is about why C/A women dislike AA women. After only two pages, non of you came back to contribute to that topic and all of a sudden this topic is off the hook with another topics business up all in it. We Black people sure know how to go about screwing things up.   

Any C/A woman who now comes to this topic is going to think that someone said that C/As look better than AA women and vice versa. Maybe then we will have yet another female tribal war.


Well, I guess I am going to have to keep copying and pasting this post I am posting before I go to bed and when I wake up to try and prevent that type of confusion.

you didn't come up with the theory 

Asians have different facial features from whites or blacks
but then you usually won't be able to tell the difference between a chinese and japanese not to talk of the sub groups in the chinese nation. there are no clearly defined "facial signatures" there.
and that's what donzman is talking about.

I still don't get how you are able to tell a white american from a dutch or german. how do you tell? tell me please? 

This thread has completely gone of topic and there is already a thread  that exist for this subject.

What gets me is most of you who are in this topic were also over in the other topic "Should Descendants of African Slaves Have Their Genes Tested"

We talked about how AA's look facially compared to some of the C/A's and all that, pictures were asked for in order so that the comparisons could be done. There are some pictures over there but not as many as there are in here and this topic is about "Do C/A women dislike AA women?" After only two pages of "Should Descendants of African Slaves Have Their Genes Tested" none of of you came back to contribute to that topic and all of a sudden this topic is off the hook with another topics business all up in it. We Black people sure know how to go about screwing things up.   

Any C/A woman who now comes to this topic is going to think that someone said that C/As look better than AA women and vice versa. Maybe then we will have yet another female tribal war.


Well, I guess I am going to have to keep copying and pasting this post I am posting before I go to bed and when I awake, to try and prevent that type of confusion.

@ Superman Akon I think Akon is Senegalese. Whats ur point?

@925

After living in Nigeria all these years (unlike you) and travelling far and wide, I've met people I thought were Yoruba but turned out Igbo. I've met people I thought were Igbo but turned out that they're from the North. Throughout my life experiences, the only thing I can say is that there is no unique Igbo look.

If you insist there is one, you can take this little test. Who is Igbo in this pic. and who isn't?, If you get it right, then you win!

And this is because you are a fool eto fsyoh!, kazol!, tyupoi kak popky.

and learn how to use computer because non of your pictures ever appears, low life fool, tyi dastal.

thank you sister, tell the fool.

@Superman



What are you talking about here? Donzman was not talking to me, he was talking to 925. LOL you are to much.

He should not have scratched out the lips, that feature also holds important facial signatures even their eyes. I would not bother to play this game with this idiot. He loves all of the attention he is getting. Donzman does not play fair and he will not tell anyone the truth, especially the ones he always disagrees with.

Glad because I knew you will play that game, Now go ahead, tell me who is Igbo here and who isn't, no more excuses. , Haha, Wicked Donzman!