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Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #512 on: December 21, 2006, 08:05 AM »

You're already a disaster as it is, it can't be worse than this man, believe me!   Cheesy
davidylan (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #513 on: December 21, 2006, 05:16 PM »

Quote from: Donzman on December 21, 2006, 08:05 AM
You're already a disaster as it is, it can't be worse than this man, believe me! Cheesy

Oh really? Exxcellent, now i can go seek some help.  Grin

Yippees! More attention seeking guard dogs! woof!
Sista (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #514 on: December 21, 2006, 06:56 PM »

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@Sista

You're argument is invalid because 90% of CA men do not live abroad so I honestly do now know what you're talking about.

Was this one of your sarcastic escapes?


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Yeah, tolerance is low indeed. That is why my dad keeps telling me to talk to him about anything on my mind everytime he calls!


Exactly, why aren't you talking to him then? He wouldn't have to keep asking if you were already open with him. He knows you don't tell him the things you probably need to be telling him. You know or feel that you can not share certain things with him because of the tolerance level. Or, is the tolerance deal over generalized? I am just asking.

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You're a dolt if you think villages pick up arms to fight on a daily basis in Nigeria, you're no different from the white man whose idea of Africa is what they see on National Geographic.

Well I am not a dolt because that is not what I think. If you paid close attention I said the tolerance level was low and I said the same thing about AA people. You could be seen as a dolt because you believe that most of AA women are Baby Mama's, in your dreams that can only be true. Or are you watching to much Television news?

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I can't remember any village fighting any village for all the time I lived in Igboland. It's ethnic tensions here and there (mostly Muslims vs. Christians) and those Niger Delta guys fighting over oil land., that's the extent of the conflict nowadays.

Tension is the key word, you don't think the children feel that tension? Also I am asking you this as a question, please tell me what does ethnics background have to do with religion being the reason for fights or quarelling or even tension? Especially when everyone is African descent?

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Again what do all these have to do with raising a kid with a father and a mother?, Seeing the father working hard on a daily basis trying to provide for the family?

Only the children don't see their father when he is living abroad, they are told that Daddy is working but Mommy is doing all of the child rearing, while Daddy puts up the funds. Daddy is not in the home where he should be. I asked you to explain to me in lamens terms what exactly is sticking it out through thick and thin with your family means? You have yet to explain that to me, you just keep asking me vague questions and giving me sarcastic escapes.

Never mind, it is obvious you are just running your mouth and you are not trying to exchange food for thought.

I am not interested in having this conversation anymore.
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #515 on: December 21, 2006, 07:56 PM »

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Exactly, why aren't you talking to him then? He wouldn't have to keep asking if you were already open with him. He knows you don't tell him the things you probably need to be telling him. You know or feel that you can not share certain things with him because of the tolerance level. Or, is the tolerance deal over generalized? I am just asking.

There's nothing to tell. I should tell him how I left my ex because I got bored?,  Undecided

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You could be seen as a dolt because you believe that most of AA women are Baby Mama's, in your dreams that can only be true.

Not all, most of them are though!

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Tension is the key word, you don't think the children feel that tension? Also I am asking you this as a question, please tell me what does ethnics background have to do with religion being the reason for fights or quarelling or even tension? Especially when everyone is African descent?

The only reason people fight in recent times in Nigeria is due to the introduction of the Sharia law and the Muhammad's cartoon fiasco. Did I say ethnic tension?, Scratch that. There is really not much of that, it's basically religious tension.

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Only the children don't see their father when he is living abroad, they are told that Daddy is working but Mommy is doing all of the child rearing, while Daddy puts up the funds. Daddy is not in the home where he should be. I asked you to explain to me in lamens terms what exactly is sticking it out through thick and thin with your family means? You have yet to explain that to me, you just keep asking me vague questions and giving me sarcastic escapes.

Again, that argument is invalid because the greater majority of Africans do not live abroad. Get it through your thick skull, the ones who do live abroad bring their family with them after they're established. Geez, don't you get it?, If you're going to argue, argue with the typical case. The typical African man does not live abroad, end of story!

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I am not interested in having this conversation anymore.

Who is interested in fighting a lost battle? No one. Good thing you quit when you haven't fallen flat on your ass.






Sista (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #516 on: December 21, 2006, 08:17 PM »

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Not all, most of them are though!

I already told you that is not true.


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The only reason people fight in recent times in Nigeria is due to the introduction of the Sharia law and the Muhammad's cartoon fiasco. Did I say ethnic tension?, Scratch that. There is really not much of that, it's basically religious tension.

What ever you say. Undecided


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Again, that argument is invalid because the greater majority of Africans do not live abroad. Get it through your thick skull, the ones who do live abroad bring their family with them after they're established. Geez, don't you get it?, If you're going to argue, argue with the typical case. The typical African man does not live abroad, end of story!

The point is, if  they are leaving home in order to take care of home, (sticking with each other through thick and thin doing what it takes to keep th family together)  Like you said right? Taking care of home and staying together is something that must be done by all means necessary. Even if you have to leave home and be in a situation where you sleep with other women because you are not home with your wife. Point being, at any given time due to circumstances, C/A women can become baby mama's. Being a baby mama does not take away from keeping your family together and your ideas of family values. In other words, shit happens more so to some than others. Shit happenings don't take away from your family values.

Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #517 on: December 21, 2006, 08:29 PM »

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Being a baby mama does not take away from keeping your family together and your ideas of family values. In other words, shit happens more so to some than others. Shit happenings don't take away from your family values.


See what I mean?, AA's definition of family isn't consistent with the African's definition of family. Husband + Wife + Children is our own definition of family. Yours?, Woman + kid + Grandma/pa + Cousins is your definition of family. End of story.
Sista (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #518 on: December 21, 2006, 10:03 PM »

Not true at all Donzman, you don't know what you are talking about.

Bottom line, shit happens more so to others than most of us and that is all it is to it. C/A are no exception to the baby mama rule it all depends on the circumstances. Circumstances will cause you act out side of your values but it doesn't mean that you don't still hold those values close to heart.
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #519 on: December 21, 2006, 11:28 PM »

Yeah shit does happen, but when shit turns out to be the norm rather than the exception, then shit cannot be out of circumstances anymore, it is the norm of the society.

It is not only AAs who have this family problem, most of the Western world do infact.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #520 on: December 22, 2006, 12:01 AM »

Donzman,

One almost wants to ask you "so what?" It's not like the African type of family has saved them from anything.

But in reality, Where do you think all the Black fathers are living? Do you think the Black fathers of all these babies get women pregnant and dissapear from around the Ghetto of the baby?

Of course not. Their still right here in the Ghetto's with their babies. Their not on none of white people's forms because then the mother would not have gotten welfare. But their still here.

Fathers + Mothers + Child + Big Mama + Auntie + Unc + Cous.

Good enough for me. You stay out of our business of who we write on them forms.
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #521 on: December 22, 2006, 12:24 AM »

@Drusiliar

I really don't care, just trying to give you reasons why traditional Africans won't be exceptionally happy with their sons/daughters marrying a foreigner.  Grin , No hard feelings!

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Fathers + Mothers + Child + Big Mama + Auntie + Unc + Cous.

Notice I didn't say Father/Mother but instead I used husband/wife to emphasize the value we place on the marriage institution and kids born/raised within it. Thanks for playing.  Grin
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #522 on: December 22, 2006, 01:02 AM »

Donzman,

Clearly it is the husband and wife thing that has Africa on top of the world.

Gee, I think you won the argument.

The proof is in the pudding, marriage is the secret to wonderful success in this life!

Africans value it and their success shows.  Cheesy
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #523 on: December 22, 2006, 01:10 AM »

Am I supposed to go into a back and forth with you at this juncture?, Donzman refuses to do that. Keep whining, whether we're on top or down under, a people's culture keeps them going from day to day. Cheesy

Lest I forget, how's the baby mama thing going for you guys?, Last I checked, AAs had the larges income per capita in America, America, land of plenty!  Grin
Hero (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #524 on: December 22, 2006, 01:15 AM »

Quote from: Donzman on December 21, 2006, 11:28 PM
Yeah shit does happen, but when shit turns out to be the norm rather than the exception, then shit cannot be out of circumstances anymore, it is the norm of the society.

It is not only AAs who have this family problem, most of the Western world do infact.

Man, I'm tired of your crap. I've been to Nigeria 3 times, Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, South Africa, Egypt, Tanzania and Ivory Coast,  and in every single last one, and nearly every single place I went within them,  I seen loads upon loads of kids out on the streets,  by themselves, no momma,  no daddy,  and dirty, begging me and anyone who looked like they may have some money for money and or food. It was an horrid pitiful site. Young girls, 12, 13, 14, 15 years old out on the streets ALLL OVER THE PLACE,  selling their bodies or attempting to do so. Lots were encouraged to do so by their very own AFRICAN MOMMA or DADDY.

I never went a day in any of those nations, and in anyplace I went without seeing some preteen, poor girl touting around some young baby she had at like 14 or 13 years old. LOADS, upon LOADS of Young boys wondered the filthy streets of Squaller,  day and night, day and night; day after day, after day, after day; NO SCHOOL, NO CHURCH, NO SPORTS; just apparently SIMPLY UP TO NO DAMN GOOD!!!

I'm sorry, but if this so called ultimate African parentage produces such massive an youthful element as what I saw upon my trips to Africa; then I must say that the so called AA bad parentage out there aint all that bad after all.    
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #525 on: December 22, 2006, 01:16 AM »

Donzman,

It seems to be working just fine for us. Smile.

Black American Wealth 1998
Published Sunday, October 11, 1998

In remarkable turnaround, blacks' incomes soar


David Westphal / McClatchy Washington Bureau Chief

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- One of the strongest, most durable business expansions in US. history is being led by a minority group that usually finds itself trailing the economic parade the nation's 34 million blacks, whose incomes are suddenly rising at a remarkable pace.


Over the past five years, as the vibrant economy pushed Americans back to the record-high living standards they reached a decade ago, blacks have not just kept pace. Their household incomes have skyrocketed, soaring three times faster than the those of the nation as a whole.



The 16.8 percent climb has added almost $3,600 a year in inflation-adjusted dollars to the average black household's income, which topped $25,000 for the first time last year. It's pushed poverty among blacks to a record low. And for the first time since the civil rights revolution of the 1960s, blacks are once again closing the huge economic chasm that has separated them from white America.


Something remarkable



It's really amazing, says Wendell Primus, an analyst for the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, which monitors poverty and income trends. We ought to be celebrating.



Primus and other policy experts say it's too early to explain all the factors responsible for blacks' economic gains, or to know how well they will withstand the next national recession. Further, they point to the stark, nearly $14,000-per-household gap that remains between blacks and whites ($25,050 a year vs. $38,972, according to new Census Bureau statistics).



Still, the analysts acknowledge that something remarkable is happening to blacks' quest for economic parity in the United States. In the past five years, 1.7 million blacks have gone off the poverty rolls, earnings by black women have moved to within a few percentage points of white women's and unemployment among blacks has dropped to less than 10 percent for the first time in almost 25 years.


The progress shows up at every income level -- from the still-large but shrinking underclass to the fast-developing black middle class to the growing ranks of wealthy blacks.



From 1992 to 1997, the number of black households making less than $15,000 a year declined by about one-fifth, while the number of households making more than $50,000 a year increased by one-fifth. Both reflect gains beyond the effects of inflation.


Its tremendous news, said Robert Reischauer, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. And a wonderfully good story.


The quick explanation for all this? Experts say it's a classic example of how a sustained economic expansion featuring low unemployment reliably benefits low-income groups the most. The nation's unemployment rate (now 4.6 percent) hasn't stayed this low since 1970.


For most of the post-World War II period, blacks have been more responsive to economic conditions than whites, said Sheldon Danziger of the University of Michigan's Center on Poverty, Risk and Mental Health. So when labor markets get very tight, that's a good time for less-skilled workers and particularly minorities. Last hired, first fired.


The growth in black incomes is translating into big gains in buying power and opportunities for black businesses. A study by the University of Georgia's Selig Center for Economic Growth projects that the nation's black buying power will grow from $308 billion in 1990 to $533 billion next year, well ahead of the nation's overall growth.


The number of black-owned businesses shot up almost 50 percent between 1987 and 1992, and a Census Bureau study currently underway is expected to show continued strong growth.

Over the past two years, Hispanics also have been part of the economic surge, with household income growing 10 percent to a median of $26,628 last year. But that followed several years of income decline and remained more than $1,000 below the high-water marks reached by Hispanic households in the late 1970s and again in the late 1980s.



Different messages



Household income for blacks, by contrast, has hit record highs each of the past three years. And with the median income now topping $25,000, black households have shaved nearly $1,500 off the black-white income gap in the past five years.



Similarly, the poverty rate for blacks has fallen to a record low 26.5 percent. Alternative measurements of poverty that include such noncash government payments as food stamps push the number lower, to 21.5 percent.



But, as President Clinton noted late last month while touting these figures, the statistics on black income and poverty carry two very different messages -- one of remarkable progress in the 1990s, the other of the huge divide that remains between white and black.


We had a record low in African-American unemployment and poverty, a record low in the poverty rate of African-American children, Clinton said. But then he added, Do you know what that record low is? It's about 39 percent. In other words, it's breathtakingly high.


The same holds true for income. In 1939, black workers made barely more than 40 percent of white workers' pay. Now, the ratio has moved to 65 percent. In other words, it's taken more than a half century to eliminate only a piece of the income gap between blacks and whites.



Nevertheless, the recent progress cheers experts who track income and poverty because it marks the first moment of sustained growth for black workers since the postwar heyday of the 1950s and 1960s, when economic progress was accompanied by landmark gains in civil rights. Amid a string of recessions in the 1970s and early 1980s, though, further gains were hard to come by.


It just shows the good things that happen to the poorest segment of America when you have 4.5 percent employment out there, said the Brookings Institution's Reischauer. In some states [including Minnesota], it's more like 2.5 percent, 3 percent, which means you're really grabbing some less well-off people into employment, and wages also are rising.


What's not yet clear is whether black income gains will vanish in the next recession -- as has occurred over the past two decades -- or might prove to be more durable.



For example, might such other factors as falling crime rates in metropolitan areas, declining drug use and lower welfare rates provide a better foundation for blacks to hold on to recent economic gains?



It's an interesting theory, said Danziger. But just speculation at this point.



Linda Haithcox, manager of economic development at the NAACP in Baltimore, said the role of education is critical. She said black children now complete high school at nearly the same high rate as white children -- a milestone she said is certain to strengthen blacks' economic standing over time.

© Copyright 1998 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.http//www2.startribune.com/viewers/cgi-perl/article.hperl?thisSlug=INCO11
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #526 on: December 22, 2006, 01:18 AM »

Yeah, the 1 miillion AA's who have slipped into poverty in the past year will be smiling while reading that article. Who are you kidding?, The whole world saw the situation in New Orleans.  Cool
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #527 on: December 22, 2006, 01:23 AM »

Donzman,

yes. That's all you can do. Play it off.  Smiley
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #528 on: December 22, 2006, 01:27 AM »

Donzman,

I am sure the 60 percent of Nigerians who live in poverty, smile when you fight for white folks to be treated nicely and not them in your own country to be treated nicely.
Hero (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #529 on: December 22, 2006, 01:29 AM »

Quote from: Drusilla on December 22, 2006, 01:27 AM
Donzman,

I am sure the 60 percent of Nigerians who live in poverty, smile when you fight for white folks to be treated nicely and not them in your own country to be treated nicely.

Drusilla, why do you even waste your time with that schmuck? By the way, over 70% of Nigerians live in poverty. 60% live in crucial poverty.
Uche2nna (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #530 on: December 22, 2006, 01:30 AM »

Make that 60.1% if u add moi  Tongue


Laugh ma d$%k off  Shocked
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #531 on: December 22, 2006, 01:31 AM »

@Drusilla

Unlike you, poor Nigerians do not blame the white man for their problems. Try again! Cheesy
@Hero
How do you get those statistics in a mainly informal economy?, Did you go out counting poor people one by one?, How are you confident in those numbers when Nigeria hasn't had a fair census since 1966?, Again, foreigners should ask to be taught instead of teaching others.
Hero (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #532 on: December 22, 2006, 01:35 AM »

Alot of folks around here talk alot of ish, as if they and their family represents the whole of Africans. GET THE F OUT OF HERE WITH THAT BULLISH. They are member to like a 2% minority of the entire African population. If they want to do a silly us against them debate then let's do it right and compare our top 2% to the Nigerian top 2% and see what we get.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #533 on: December 22, 2006, 01:36 AM »

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Man, I'm tired of your crap. I've been to Nigeria 3 times, Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, South Africa, Egypt, Tanzania and Ivory Coast,  and in every single last one, and nearly every single place I went within them,  I seen loads upon loads of kids out on the streets,  by themselves, no momma,  no daddy,  and dirty, begging me and anyone who looked like they may have some money for money and or food. It was an horrid pitiful site. Young girls, 12, 13, 14, 15 years old out on the streets ALLL OVER THE PLACE,  selling their bodies or attempting to do so. Lots were encouraged to do so by their very own AFRICAN MOMMA or DADDY.

I never went a day in any of those nations, and in anyplace I went without seeing some preteen, poor girl touting around some young baby she had at like 14 or 13 years old. LOADS, upon LOADS of Young boys wondered the filthy streets of Squaller,  day and night, day and night; day after day, after day, after day; NO SCHOOL, NO CHURCH, NO SPORTS; just apparently SIMPLY UP TO NO DAMN GOOD!!!

I'm sorry, but if this so called ultimate African parentage produces such massive an youthful element as what I saw upon my trips to Africa; then I must say that the so called AA bad parentage out there aint all that bad after all.  

Aww.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #534 on: December 22, 2006, 01:38 AM »

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Drusilla, why do you even waste your time with that schmuck? By the way, over 70% of Nigerians live in poverty. 60% live in crucial poverty.

Hero,

Your right. I forgot. I usually refer to the 60% as those in absolute poverty.
Uche2nna (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #535 on: December 22, 2006, 01:39 AM »

Crucial Undecided
Absolute  Undecided


what about critical  Huh
superman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #536 on: December 22, 2006, 01:39 AM »

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa oh well

god bless nigeria
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #537 on: December 22, 2006, 01:40 AM »

@Drusiliar

Yeah, pull out a post of an AA whining like it proves anything. Fact is that Africans value a complete family unlike the AA Baby Mama culture, try and justify it. All it does it reinforce my belief that I'll never marry anyone from this part of the world.

I'm just trying to tell you how African women differ from AA women, if you choose to diss Africa's economic woes, that is your lot. In the end, we all know those with the stronger culture, end of story.

What does Africa's economic problems have to do with our value for a husband/wife household?, If there's anything going for us, it's our family unit.
Hero (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #538 on: December 22, 2006, 01:41 AM »

Quote from: Donzman on December 22, 2006, 01:31 AM
@Drusilla

Unlike you, poor Nigerians do not blame the white man for their problems. Try again! Cheesy
@Hero
How do you get those statistics in a mainly informal economy?, Did you go out counting poor people one by one?, How are you confident in those numbers when Nigeria hasn't had a fair census since 1966?, Again, foreigners should ask to be taught instead of teaching others.

I believe them, because I've seen it with my very own eyes,  up close and personal, playa. So unless you're telling me that my eyes were playing tricks on me, then it's the truth.
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #539 on: December 22, 2006, 01:42 AM »

tribal wars sucks purge yourself of it.
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #540 on: December 22, 2006, 01:42 AM »

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I believe them, because I've seen it with my very own eyes,  up close and personal, playa. So unless you're telling me that my eyes were playing tricks on me, then it's the truth.

You've seen what?, Your 15 year old sista carting babies like a hobo carts pop cans?, ROFL!

Did you go out counting every Nigerian?, Maybe you'll like to tell me what our exact population is?, Since when did you become a prophet?, The Lord revealed unto you, 60% of Nigerians live in poverty, 70% in absolute poverty.
Uche2nna (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #541 on: December 22, 2006, 01:45 AM »

This thread reminds me of my mama's soup is better than ur mama's soup    Grin
Donzman (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #542 on: December 22, 2006, 01:46 AM »

Quote from: Uche2nna on December 22, 2006, 01:45 AM
This thread reminds me of my mama's soup is better than your mama's soup Grin

Yeah but AA's do not have any soup to speak of, that's where it sucks.  Cheesy
Hero (m)
Re: Do African Women Dislike Black American Women?
« #543 on: December 22, 2006, 01:47 AM »

Quote from: Donzman on December 22, 2006, 01:42 AM
You've seen what?, Your 15 year old sista carting babies like a hobo carts pop cans?, ROFL!

Yeah, just like Drusilla said. When ever you've been put in your looser place, you bitch out and resort to stupid childish antics. Get a life, a manhood, and if you can manage,  a proper education.
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