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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Um This girl is not Ibo. Her name is Dolapo. She lives in Brooklyn. Ole.  |
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Uche2nna (m)
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Is that the only pics u saw,thief of hearts  damn,the girl is pretty |
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Well I know her pretty well so it jumped out at me. trying to claim eh? ole jati jati |
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Hero (m)
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@SISTAI forgot to talk on the Athletic aspect of the Igbo and I'll ad SE Nigerians in whole. A large percentage of the Nigerian top soccer players of Igbo and other SE descent. Here in the US, you'll find out that the majority of Nigerian-Americans in which have made a name for themselves in American top college and professional sports have been of SE Nigerian descent, though it is only fare to mention that the Nigerian whom has made the biggest name for himself in this regard, Hakeem Olajuwon was a Yoruba. Every year I'm seeing more and more Igbo-American kids popping up in the starting lineups of top NCAA basketball and football teams. Just a couple of years ago, an Igbo-American kid by the name of Okafor, a basketball player for You-Conn won the NCAA player of the year award. His stats were very impressive as were his grades. He went on to be the leading player for the Charlotte Bobcats. THIS IS HIM:
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shango (m)
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Okafor is a banging ballplayer esp, when he was in college. Good man. To be in Div 1 Basketball and get good grades is no small feat. Great role model for any Black Person in this country. Ofcourse they do not celeberate people like him enough in this country but that is another mattter.
Now the claim that most slaves where Igbo is false. That is simply not true. The bulk of slaves where Yoruba especially in south America. Infact reminants of Yoruba culture are found in Cuba, Brazil, and alot of Carribean islands.
Hero your evidence of looking at African Americans and seeing their skin color or facial features as being similar to Igbos just isnt good proof of their decent. Do you know DNA evidence shows that over half of African Americans are mixed blooded with White and Native Indian? So how does that gel with your claim of 7 out of 10 AA are Igbo? Plus there is more evidence especially from linguistics that most slaves where of Yoruba descent. There is little evidence of African Americans having Igbo roots or anything of that nature.
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Hero (m)
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Um This girl is not Ibo. Her name is Dolapo. She lives in Brooklyn. Ole. Yes, she was a questionable one. Her name is definitely SW Nigerian, I would suppose Yoruba--- though in a beauty contest she's represents Bayelsa , an SE state, and on top of that she looks every bit like she is of a SE ethnic group, which by the way is what I was presenting there in that display of pictures and not just Igbos. As you may observe, I've been stating that AA's are heavily of SE Nigerian ethnic descent the VAST MAJORITY OF WHICH IS IGBO. Now when dealing with SE Naijas, it's not worth attempting to try to make distinctions between them--- in that featurely as well as socially in many instances they are almost indistinguishable from each other, when it comes to most of the groups in the area. So with this said, I wonder if Dalapo is of mixed ethnicity of Yoruba and some SE ethnic descent, because while I've seen her facial look heavily amongst SE'ers I've never seen it amongst Yoruba or other SW'ers who were not mixed with SE and or AA descent. |
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WesleyanA (f)
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Sista, I assure you that all of my answers are absolutely truthful. I'm fairly well studied on these topics.
Sista, let me tell you, there aint all that much of a difference between the Igbo and Yoruba traditional musical styles,
huh  how so? |
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WesleyanA (f)
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So with this said, I wonder if Dalapo is of mixed ethnicity of Yoruba and some SE ethnic descent, because while I've seen her facial look heavily amongst SE'ers I've never seen it amongst Yoruba or other SW'ers who were not mixed with SE and or AA descent.
are you joking? you said in some other thread too that pretty yoruba girls have to be mixed w/ igbo. same thing you said about "omotola" being igbo.  what are you on about? let me guess, you're most certainly not igbo for sure (from your posts. you don't know much between igbos and yorubas. can't even tell the names apart) so maybe your nigerian friends are igbo or your married to one. |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To WesleyanA, shango,
Your arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts, if you see A white American if he is of English discern, you will see it on his or her face, same goes for Irish Scottish French German etc, like wise if you see an African American you will know if he or she is of Igbo discern or of Yoruba, but it happens that most African Americans can in most cases only be described as Igbo, the mixed theory is crap, my son is mixed and he is very very light skin, but somebody asked his mother on the street of England if his father is igbo, cause he looks igbo, 7 out 10 African Americans looks Igbo, the yorubas are more in south america,
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WesleyanA (f)
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To WesleyanA, shango,
Your arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts, if you see A white American if he is of English discern, you will see it on his or her face, same goes for Irish Scottish French German etc, like wise if you see an African American you will know if he or she is of Igbo discern or of Yoruba,
i seriously can't tell the difference between a white American and a white German. seriously. tell me how you do it please. i can tell by their accents. I wouldn't see because i don't try to figure out ethnic tribes when i meet w/ AAs. I've never heard of anyone who does except you and hero. |
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Hero (m)
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To WesleyanA, shango,
Your arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts, if you see A white American if he is of English discern, you will see it on his or her face, same goes for Irish Scottish French German etc, like wise if you see an African American you will know if he or she is of Igbo discern or of Yoruba, but it happens that most African Americans can in most cases only be described as Igbo, the mixed theory is crap, my son is mixed and he is very very light skin, but somebody asked his mother on the street of England if his father is igbo, cause he looks igbo, 7 out 10 African Americans looks Igbo, the yorubas are more in south america,
Thank you very much. I don't know what other way to get this point through peoples heads. Your white comparison remark was very good. The vast majority of the time when I see a Yoraba, my mind can instantly process that they are not AA, but Igbo's and other SE groups; NO WAY!! |
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WesleyanA (f)
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well, you could as well go up to them and say "kedu ka odi" instead of shouting "NO WAY" in the middle of the street ( i hope not).
lol
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Dolapo doesnt look Ibo, I don't know where you got that rubbish from. mixed ko, mixture ni.
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Sista (f)
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@Hero
Hero, thank you for taking your time to intelligently explain what you know. Although I would have to disagree that most AA's are Igbo. You have to remember that most of the slaves came from West Africa, west Africa is huge and at that time and still to this day, I am pretty sure when white people was over in West Africa taking slaves, if they was in Yoruba land, I am pretty sure there were some Igbo scattered about in there. I am also pretty sure that there were some Yoruba scattered around in Igbo land. Fact is, all we know as AA's is, we came from west Africa. From time to time and in fact on many occasions, I see African Americans in clusters who resemble Ghanaians, I mean really and truly resemble them but then if I keep looking, I even see some Mali like features. Fact is AA's are mixed up with west Africans and then some, but very little, Native American and white. Although, don't get me wrong, most AA's have more African blood than anything. However, as I said, that African blood is mixed up consisting of West African blood.
I think from this slave event happening, descendants of African slaves were supposed to be lesson to Africans as a whole. It shouldn't be only when we are in captivity that we see it as beneficial to mix with each other. In other words, does it take trauma for Africans as a whole to realize that they need each other? I can imagine that the Yoruba slaves and the Igbo slaves put aside their differences when they became slaves in a foreign land. That is why AA's don't see each other as different, we see each other as the same, even when we look different from each other. We all know that we came from a mixed up stock of west Africans.
I do think though that it is possible to find out what West African group of men and women are responsible for AA's. It would be a miracle if this was to happen but if everyone who is a descendant of AA slaves would take that gene test, it would all lead back to the Adam and Eve (Igb0) or Adam and Eves (Igbo and Yuroba) of AA's
Also, have you wondered about the African Carribeans? How they look and their music style? I noticed that a lot of the Mali music sounds like reggae. Even the old Mali music from the 60's and the 70's is very similar to reggae music.
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shango (m)
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Your arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts, if you see A white American if he is of English discern, you will see it on his or her face, same goes for Irish Scottish French German etc, like wise if you see an African American you will know if he or she is of Igbo discern or of Yoruba, but it happens that most African Americans can in most cases only be described as Igbo, the mixed theory is crap, my son is mixed and he is very very light skin, but somebody asked his mother on the street of England if his father is igbo, cause he looks igbo, 7 out 10 African Americans looks Igbo, the yorubas are more in south america, Reminants of a mother tongue and linguistic similarities are tribal sentiments? Are you high? If you can tell an English man from a German you are smoking something as the old English where infact of Germanic stock. Read some history on England and where the people came from. So no you cannot tell a true blooded German from an English man by looks alone. This bussiness of looking at mixed blooded African Americans and saying they look Igbo is hilarious. Like a previous poster pointed out, the Europeans tooks slaves from the whole west coast of Africa. Lagos (portuguese for Lagoon) was a brazillian port where yoruba slaves where shipped to the carribean and south america. Calabar was also another major port as well. And when I say most AAA are mixed I do not mean their immediate father or mother was white which would give rise to what we Nigerians call a half-cast. Family trees of AA show that over half had Native Indian or White descendants at one time or the other in their family tree. This is fact. I do not say this to imply that those you think are of Igbo descent are mixed, I say this to point out it is hard to tell by features which part of Africa an AA came from when the bulk of AA are mixed blooded. However one concrete fact is the presence of Yoruba Gods in South America and Yoruba culture, from Lucumi to Santaria, most of these "religions" are based on Yoruba mythology and where used to hide Yoruba culture from slave masters who sought to suppress the identity of the slaves. For example in Santaria Catholic saints where given names that coincided with Yoruba gods, as well as Candomblé of Brazil. However your proof for AA being Igbo slaves has been your keen sense of Tribal detection which has been proven wrong by you posting pictures of people from other tribes and claiming they where Igbo. So whose arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts my brotha? |
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Sista (f)
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@ShangoHowever one concrete fact is the presence of Yoruba Gods in South America and Yoruba culture, from Lucumi to Santaria, most of these "religions" are based on Yoruba mythology and where used to hide Yoruba culture from slave masters who sought to suppress the identity of the slaves. For example in Santaria Catholic saints where given names that coincided with Yoruba gods, as well as Candomblé of Brazil. This is true
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Donzman (m)
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Shango is right, the rest of you are wrong. You guys are screwed up in the skull thinking there's one particular way Igbos look, get a clue. Igbos don't have a distinct look!
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To shango, Reminants of a mother tongue and linguistic similarities are tribal sentiments? Are you high? Nobody is disproving the presence of Yoruba's in south America, that one is by the way. If you can tell an English man from a German you are smoking something as the old English where infact of Germanic stock. This is the mistake we black people make all the time, the fact that you can not do something does not mean that some one can not do it, the fact that you don't know how to make computer does not mean some one can't, It might sound like blasphemy to you because you don't know, no offence; I can differentiate between the four major British nations, The English, the Scottish, Welsh and Irish, they all have there tribal signatures on their faces, the fact that you don't see it don't mean it does not exist, the Difference between the way the Germans and the English looks is so obvious that is like night and day, if you can't see it then this argument is worthless. The Nederland and germany has the same border but believe me they look different. Read some history on England and where the people came from. So no you cannot tell a true blooded German from an English man by looks alone. Let me surprise you further, I would advise you to brace up. Your argument of the English and the Germans coming from the same root is correct but is not credible in defining how they look. The Russia nation started from Kiev Ukraine [ read the history of kiyvsky Russ] before migrating further North East {Russia}, but the Russians and the Ukrainians looks distinct, though they might appear the same to you, this is where you would need that extra factor, here we go, the Yoruba's in common view might be seen to all look alike, but do you know that a Yoruba person from Ondo state looks completely different from a Yoruba person from Oyo state, even in Ondo state the Akoko and the Ekitis has their peculiarities you might not see it but somebody does. the Igbos generally look a like but do you know that the anambra [former] people and the Imo [former] people has their peculiarities, so are the people from Abakaliki region and nsukka region respectively, this might sound blasphemious but I can in most cases differentiate an anambra person from an Imo person, they all appear the same because they are the same, but there is a very tiny signature on the faces of people from every particular region This bussiness of looking at mixed blooded African Americans and saying they look Igbo is hilarious. Faces don't lye, many people has equally said these, the fact that you don't notice these looks fraudulent or might explain further why human are not all homogenius. Like a previous poster pointed out, the Europeans tooks slaves from the whole west coast of Africa. Lagos (portuguese for Lagoon) was a brazillian port where yoruba slaves where shipped to the carribean and south america. The blacks from South America equally has a facial signature that coincides with the Yoruba's, why didn't they mix it out?, we all know that mixing is more predominant in south America. And when I say most AAA are mixed I do not mean their immediate father or mother was white which would give rise to what we Nigerians call a half-cast. Family trees of AA show that over half had Native Indian or White descendants at one time or the other in their family tree. This is fact. I do not say this to imply that those you think are of Igbo descent are mixed, I say this to point out it is hard to tell by features which part of Africa an AA came from when the bulk of AA are mixed blooded. The only thing am seeing here is that you are basing your argument solely on skin colour, hence the mixed thing you keep talking about, but am only arguing here based on facial signature, skin colour has nothing to do with it, what I can also understand is that you are implying that the one's we assume that looks Igbo are mixed, which explains further your mind set that the only explanation of the way the Igbos looks is because they are mixed, and that is not credible. let me retarate all my arguments are only based on facial signature, which seems to sound strange to you and is quite pellucid. Note; Nne Nna, the Nigerian Igbo girl from THE NEXT AMERICAN TOP MODEL is a very very dark skin person but has the same facial signature with Jada pinketh Smith { the wife of will smith }, those two could be sisters not withstanding the differences in the shade of their skin colour, am talking only about facial signature. However one concrete fact is the presence of Yoruba Gods in South America and Yoruba culture, from Lucumi to Santaria, most of these "religions" are based on Yoruba mythology and where used to hide Yoruba culture from slave masters who sought to suppress the identity of the slaves. For example in Santaria Catholic saints where given names that coincided with Yoruba gods, as well as Candomblé of Brazil.
Stop encroaching these argument with the south American Issue, we are not talking about South America, we are talking of the blacks in the UNITED STATES, the only people that claim their origin has something to do with lucumi are the Delta Igbo's, and these people are still igbo's not Yoruba's, even the Yoruba elders can't even explain the Lucumi stuff. However your proof for AA being Igbo slaves has been your keen sense of Tribal detection which has been proven wrong by you posting pictures of people from other tribes and claiming they where Igbo. If the girl in the picture is purelly of Yoruba Origin, she won't be contesting for bayelsa states. So whose arguments are based more on tribal sentiments than facts my brotha? Puissantly yours bro. TO Donzman, Shango is right, the rest of you are wrong. You guys are screwed up in the skull thinking there's one particular way Igbos look, get a clue. Igbos don't have a distinct look!
Am allergic to people with very empty brain, that knows only curse words, your allegation that Igbos has no distinct looks shows where your brain stops, I 've always maintained that if you don't know anything about an argument, don't dabble in and look stupid, just like you dabbled in, in the reparation argument without knowing the meaning or what reparation is all about, is gross man. Note again; 1, the African Americans are mostly of Igbo discern [ ie including the south south], some few Yoruba elements, Ghana and very very few non west Africans 2, The south American blacks are predominantly Yoruba's and some few igbo lelementsand others 3, The Surinames are mostly Ghanians, though heavily mixed with others. |
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Donzman (m)
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Am allergic to people with very empty brain, that knows only curse words, your allegation that Igbos has no distinct looks shows where your brain stops, I 've always maintained that if you don't know anything about an argument, don't dabble in and look stupid, just like you dabbled in, in the reparation argument without knowing the meaning or what reparation is all about, is gross man It's insulting saying I do not know what reparations mean but that's ok because I'm not going to sit here and defend my knowledge. I'm Igbo myself and unlike you, I grew up and spent the majority of my time so far on earth in Igboland. Igbo people do not have any distinct look, the looks vary as east varies from west. You're the idiot that was posting pictures of AAs and pointing out what tribes in Nigeria they look like. You're a colossal fool with a myopic world view for even thinking that. This is what you observe and assume you're observing looks. You observe people's mannerisms, the way they make faces, act with their hands, eyes, mouth and stuffs and in your dimwitted brain, you process it as a distinct look. You can argue that there's a way Igbos act when you're in a discussion with them and you'll be 99% right. You're directly heading for a pit when you argue that Igbos have a distinct look. I have an Igbo man here who looks like OBJ, are you going to tell him he's not Igbo?, 925, why don't you tell me these similar facial x-tics Igbos have? You'll think hard and easily figure out what I already know, you're observing mannerisms and misrepresenting them as looks. When I differentiate a Yoruba man from an Igbo man, I look at mannerisms, if you depend on looks, you'll fail 99/100 times. Now go ahead, show me these similar physical x-tics and knowing you, you'll find a way to evade this question by making silly outarageous claims about me like only an ignoramus will. |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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It's insulting saying I do not know what reparations mean but that's ok because I'm not going to sit here and defend my knowledge. I'm Igbo myself and unlike you, I grew up and spent the majority of my time so far on earth in Igboland. Igbo people do not have any distinct look, the looks vary as east varies from west. You're the idiot that was posting pictures of AAs and pointing out what tribes in Nigeria they look like. You're a colossal fool with a myopic world view for even thinking that.
This is what you observe and assume you're observing looks. You observe people's mannerisms, the way they make faces, act with their hands, eyes, mouth and stuffs and in your dimwitted brain, you process it as a distinct look. You can argue that there's a way Igbos act when you're in a discussion with them and you'll be 99% right. You're directly heading for a pit when you argue that Igbos have a distinct look. I have an Igbo man here who looks like OBJ, are you going to tell him he's not Igbo?, 925, why don't you tell me these similar facial x-tics Igbos have? You'll think hard and easily figure out what I already know, you're observing mannerisms and misrepresenting them as looks. When I differentiate a Yoruba man from an Igbo man, I look at mannerisms, if you depend on looks, you'll fail 99/100 times.
Now go ahead, show me these similar physical x-tics and knowing you, you'll find a way to evade this question by making silly outarageous claims about me like only an ignoramus will.
Am talking of facial signature and you are talking of manners, what a way to drag an argument to the gutter, i-l-l-i-t-e-r-a-t-e d-u-m-b f-o-o-l. |
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Uche2nna (m)
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I do not know why some people on Nairaland will not just tolerate others?  *what r we trying to prove and who are we trying to prove it to! Do not try to look smart by trying to make your fellow being look stupid! there r other ways u can prove your intelligence/smartness  |
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nilla (f)
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I do not know why some people on Nairaland will not just tolerate others? *what r we trying to prove and who are we trying to prove it to! Do not try to look smart by trying to make your fellow being look stupid! there r other ways u can prove your intelligence/smartness I tire oh |
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ZuluNation (m)
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Ninetofive and Donzman. My brothers why do you have to resort in calling each other names, seriously what's the point. It's OK to disagree with each other but the calling of each other names is not necessary.  I don't want to get into the argument, but I thought we all was cool now you folks are fighting in front of the enemy, I'm very disappointed not that it matters to anyone |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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This is the way Donzman came into this argument, insulting every body. from Donzman,
Shango is right, the rest of you are wrong. You guys are screwed up in the skull thinking there's one particular way Igbos look, get a clue. Igbos don't have a distinct look! He deserves every thing he gets, the only way he comes into any argument is only by insulting people, and I assume that's got a lot to do with complex. |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Ninetofive and Donzman. My brothers why do you have to resort in calling each other names, seriously what's the point. It's OK to disagree with each other but the calling of each other names is not necessary. I don't want to get into the argument, but I thought we all was cool now you folks are fighting in front of the enemy, I'm very disappointed not that it matters to anyone Nna Zulu Nwanem, this boy anapo Donzman, every time onapari nmadu, and onwero any atom of brain, echem no my brother, mana amarom anya this boy, odika onaghun guff. |
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ZuluNation (m)
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You maybe right Ninetofive I don't know or care, but what ever happened to just walking away, I just hate to see my Igbo brothers fighting amongst themselves on Nairaland. Oh well you all have a nice day, My day is now down the drain  |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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You maybe right Ninetofive I don't know or care, but what ever happened to just walking away, I just hate to see my Igbo brothers fighting amongst themselves on Nairaland. Oh well you all have a nice day, My day is now down the drain Next time I would consider that probably, thanks anyway. |
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Donzman (m)
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Donzman said :
Now go ahead, show me these similar physical x-tics and knowing you, you'll find a way to evade this question by making silly outarageous claims about me like only an ignoramus will. Ninetofive resonds: Am talking of facial signature and you are talking of manners, what a way to drag an argument to the gutter, i-l-l-i-t-e-r-a-t-e d-u-m-b f-o-o-l.If there was no Jesus Christ, I'll be the next great prophet, yeah the lord spoke unto me.  Will you show me these similar facial signatures and not try to run away from the issue at hand with insults?, Come on man, credibility on the line here! |
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Donzman (m)
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Am talking of facial signature and you are talking of manners, what a way to drag an argument to the gutter, i-l-l-i-t-e-r-a-t-e d-u-m-b f-o-o-l.
Yeah, you're talking about facial signatures and I'm telling you there are no common facial signatures. What is common within a tribe are mannerisms which is most people use to differentiate. The way people move their fingers to make a point, smirk their faces and etcetera. Way to show me your high comprehension of the English language. |
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shango (m)
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Ninetofive is talking about facial signatures that stay the same no matter the genetic makeup off the person, wether he is mixed with Irish or Welsh or German blood is inconsequential to a person "LOOKING IGBO" Even though Jad Pinket Smith might be mixed with White Italian blood and African blood she has the facial signature of Nnenna hence she is Igbo. The white blood in Jada Pinket smith in no way shaped how she looks right? Black blood shapes your facial signature no matter if you have chinese or native indian or even a combination of all?
I supposed Tiger Woods, whose father was black and native indian and his mother Asian still has the facial signature of an Igbo because you can find an Igbo guy or I know of Igbo guys that look like him?
There are Igbos that have contested for Lagos State. There are white Models that have contested for Mrs. South Africa. Your point about the Bayelsa model is just plain DAFT. Just like your stupid nonsensical and baseless theory of "facial signatures"
Please do not make me bust out pictures to ask you to identify peoples lineages as you will fail in every respect. I bet you could not tell a Russian from an Englishman on pictures alone. That is obvious because you have states how you arrive at your conclusions and the methods are RETARDED
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Donzman (m)
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That is obvious because you have states how you arrive at your conclusions and the methods are RETARDED Not only is the method retarded, the person proposing the method is retarded. He has no proof but to resort to insults and this is a grown man with kids we're talking about here. |
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanWill you show me these similar facial signatures and not try to run away from the issue at hand with insults?, Come on man, credibility on the line here! Donzman, you have your own little clever ways of running away from a challenging post or question as well, you won't admit it but you do. I have noticed it many times but during a conversation with you, I don't feel like it is worth pointing it out to you because it is not even worth having a conversation with you. Why have I wasted my time with even getting into a debate with you is beyond me. Perhaps in the past, I have felt like I have been to hard on you but you like to stir things up. You don't ask questions or get into a debate because you really want to learn or share ideas, you get into a discussion just to be sarcastic and pretend to be comfortable with the fact that you know it all (which you don't) I am pointing this out to you now because you are having the audacity to accuse someone of running when you have done the running many times. @ShangoEven though Jad Pinket Smith might be mixed with White Italian blood and African blood she has the facial signature of Nnenna hence she is Igbo. This is possible that Jadas genes could have regurgitated in favor of an Igbo woman's face. Genes are funny especially when you are mixed. AA people cannot really be said to be totally deriving from Igbo and not any other west African tribes. That wouldn't be possible because the original Africans who were captured into slavery mixed in with other west African slaves. Many people have told me that I look like Yuroba discern, then they have told me that I look like I am possible Ghana discern. I saw a Ghana model not to long back in this Ghana catalog and this woman did favor me and I her, it was amazing. The whole point is, someone else said I looked like Yuroba discern and someone said I looked like Ghana discern but the fact is, both of them can be right. Some AA's look straight up like one tribe of people in west Africa head body structure and all, you cannot tell that they are not C/A. In those people who come out like that, they must have had a dominate gene in their gene pull that for whatever reason decided to regurgitate big time. However, most of us AA's come out looking mixed like a west African mutt if you will. In those ones who come out looking mixed up west African, they had genes swarming all over the place that just wanted to come up and so they did and they created something very beautiful, that being, descendant of west African slaves. Now west Africans can see what they can create, if they just got along.
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