|
|
|
ono (m)
|
1. Will shutting up keep the restive youths in the Delta at bay? 2 Will it solve the problems of corruption, ethnic bigotry, nepotism, and hooliganism that traverse the lands? 3. Will it bring food to the hungry, succour to the poor, comfort to the fatherless - I just lost one of my dear friends. He was felled by ''flying'' bullets in the creeks. Who will take care of his wife and kids? 4. Will all your outbursts keep the corrupt politicians from pilfering the treasury?
I want solutions, not a set of fresh problem-generating write up. In the end, I think it's yourself that should shut it up!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
Did Ono read it at all?
1. Would taking up arms solve the problems of the restive youths? 2. Would taking up arms solve the problems of corruption, ethnic bigotry, nepotism and hooliganism that traverse the lands? 3. Do arms provide food to the hungry, succour to the poor, comfort to the fatherless - Ono my guy, I am sorry about your loss, I truly am. I pray to the Almighty to grant your friend's family fortitude to bear their loss. 4. My outbursts and those of others if made long and loud enough can stop the corrupt politicians dead in their tracks. We should stop giving our support to the Alams, the Okumagbas, the Ejoors and the Clarks. We put them there, they connived to rape us.
Solutions? They will come if only we have the will to do what we should do, stand up and be counted instead of sitting down in our homes and grumbling. My write ups are just one of the ways in which I do my part. I will not shut up.
|
|
|
|
|
|
ono (m)
|
Your thread's topic reads ''South South Should Shut Up'' - right?
So,
1. Are you insinuating that it's the South South people who are up in arms against the government in the creeks - has it ever occurred to you that miscreants and hoodlums might be involved in these arms struggle against the govt? 2. Do you think the South South people love the situation where majority of their sons and daughters, out of frustrations and neglect in the midst of plenty, do not have a means of livelihood? 3. Do you think that the South South people are happy watching their lands militarised and impoverished? 4. Who do you think should be blamed for the uprising and chaos in the creeks - the government (at all levels - with the bulk of it on the FG) or the South South people? 5. Don't you think this place (South South, Niger Delta, etc) would be peaceful and serene if, and only if the central government had made conscious efforts at developing the area since the days crude oil was discovered in the land at Oloibiri, in Bayelsa state in 1958? 6. Do you think that the killing and incarceration of all the militants in the creeks will solve the problems in the Niger Delta? Open your eyes and see that even with the killing of Isaac Adaka Boro, the spirit of the true fighters of the Niger Delta struggles have not died with their flesh.
I believe that the practice of true fiscal federalism will go a long way to addressing the problems in the lands.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
Who are the people agitating under the umbrella of the South-South? Who came out en masse to welcome that thieving Alams when he returned to Nigeria? Who made it a central policy to kidnap white people? (As if that would solve anything!) Who have been given grants, loans and facilities, scholarships, employment and a host of other 'goodies' by the oil companies? What happened to said goodies? Why do youths in your region prefer to become egbe-wagers rather than go to school which would help them better in the long run? (Read Warri, Ughelli, Mosogar, Agbharo, Patani)
One of the 'South-South's' claims is that none of their own have ever been head of state, Nigeria. I have pointed out that that is a wrong claim. But like a friend of mine conveniently did while I was still in Lagos, you've ignored that (did you read the article at all?)
Once upon a time you were in Warri. Where did 'deve' originate from? What is the state of Mosogar? What happened when the Federal government gave Lucky Igbinedion money to refurbish the road network in Benin?
Remember one thing: in my article I pointed out that all parts of Nigeria have been neglected by successive governments, not just the South-South. My people (Igbos) probably have a greater reason to cry marginalisation than any other person. But I won't take that easy route out.
It is this simple: the Central Government has Southerners as part of it. And if they really have your interest at heart we would have known wouldn't we?
Please once again, I invite you: take that article, criticise it point by point and constructively. Not sentimentally.
At this point I have no wish to be drawn into another unnecessary argument with you.
Have a nice day.
And yes, the South South should shut up concerning where the president comes from. They've been there before.
|
|
|
|
|
|
ono (m)
|
You sure said in your write up that Muritala Muhammed was from somewhere close to the South South - Edo state, precisely. I really don't know where you got that info from. May God help you sha if you go to Kano and tell them that their son was from somewhere near Edo State. That MM came from a place ''Near and close to'' Edo does not mean that he came from the South South. You see all those ''pockets'' of egebe-wejas , MEND, Ijaw youths and deve boys are just a foretaste of the trouble that looms large ahead of us. I have tried to make everyone know that the major problem in the country is this type of arrangement where goodies flows from the centre to other places, even when some places contribute little or nothing to the centre. Let a situation where the states contribute to the centre parts of their earnings from their resources and see if sanity will not be restored to the polity. Who have been given grants, loans and facilities, scholarships, employment and a host of other 'goodies' by the oil companies? What happened to said goodies? I think you should ask yourself this question. If all those goodies you mentioned really get to the youths in the area, why would they want to go carry arms and fight the government?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Nutter (m)
|
@Chxta,
I am now left with no doubt of your solid masochistic tendencies. It’s not hard to see. Your varied attempts to project the image of ‘the neutral one who tells it as it is’ often leaves quite a lot to be desired. Indeed, ironically, it betrays a strong sense of bias. You said on another thread that you are impartial in all matters except when Nigeria’s unity is at stake. That one statement speaks volumes. How can you now expect us to wholly accept that your position on this and related issues is bereft of sentiments?
War/armed struggle of any kind is a terrible thing. It has never achieved anything aside from largely ending: SLAVERY, COLONIALISM, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ugwumba (m)
|
"those who make peaceful change impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK.[i][/i]
Chxta, As always i admire your writing and opinions, but this is one case where i have to disagree with you (I have read your blog).
A quick summary of what you have written: 'the South-South should shut up because they are not the only marginalized people in Nigeria and their leadership is as much to blame for this as anyone else'.
I have no problem with your premise ('not the only marginalized ones'), but strongly disagree with the conclusion that they should shut up.
Look, if the other marginalized groups cannot take up arms (since all other entreaties to those who have commandeered power has failed), we cannot castigate those who have the courage to do so.
Nigeria needs a rather violent wake-up call.
I lived and worked for a few years in Port-Harcourt before coming abroad, and saw first-hand the degradation of the Niger-Delta by oil exploration (and this is a lot more of 'exploitation').
Compared to how the oil industry evolved in the ME, Europe and America, there has been a criminal neglect of the Niger-delta by both the FG and the IOCs (international oil companies). A few examples should suffice.
In the Bonny kingdom, where there has been oil E & P (exploration and production) activities since the early 1960's, there is nothing to show in terms of development of the host communities (Ayaminima for e.g.), yet the Bonny people have, mostly, peacefully hosted the major export terminal and the liquefied natural gas plant, in addition to several oil wells.
The Ogoni people have suffered untold hardship at the hands of the 'central powers' and the first oil well at Oloibiri can not be regarded as anything but a 'curse'. The Ogoni, have almost been made refugees in their own country, because of their demand for rights to some of this wealth.
Although the oil is mainly in the PH-Warri axis, the road network connecting these major oil towns is pathetic. If our leaders cannot, even for commercial reasons, invest in the infrastructure where the nation's wealth is derived from, how then can they be expected to invest in the communities.
Is the militancy right? - well, in the light of there being no other alternatives,a big YES. All struggles in history to redress major wrongs have had to, at a time, rely on the use of violence. The ANC used this in SA and the IRA in Northern Ireland.
Is the criminality right? - again, given the circumstances, these chaps have no other financial means to continue the struggle, so they resort to illegal bunkering and ransoms from kidnapping.
Who do they harm by doing this? The Nigerian state, but is this not their goal? the ANC and IRA resorted to armed robbery at different stages of their struggles, to fund their activities.
What, however, is lacking in this struggle is that there is no political arm of these militant groups that can articulate their demands in a civil manner, while still continuing the armed resistance.
Will the FG's use of military might work to bring peace? - in all of history, the use of might against a perceived wrong has always failed. The only effect this will have is to further militarize the struggle and escalate things to where 'guerilla' type sabotage of FG and IOC facilities becomes commonplace and the killing of those kidnapped.
|
|
|
|
|
|
omonozozo (m)
|
I believe the reason why you started this topic is because you need insults, and I think you going to get it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ugwumba (m)
|
@ omonozozo I believe the reason why you started this topic is because you need insults, and I think you going to get it.
we can have an enlightened and even angry discussion of this, without insults. the title is provocative, but that is Chxta's style.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
owo (m)
|
Dear Chxta, You may have inadvertently murdered sleep by your 'very interesting' statements and views. If you had left the statement on your blog, without coming to brag about in the market square, then they would remained yours and your only. But alas, you chose to do the unthinkable, coming to the market with your 'wares'. Therefore, I stand to challenge you and all that is brilliant in you.
First, there is 'no place' that is called 'South-south". It is not in Nigeria's constitution (as handed down by the 'wise military brass") either as a state, region or political entity. Neither does Ecowas, AU or the UN know about the existence of this name that you are refering to. There is no language called South-south. There is no culture with the tag 'South-south'. There is no village, hamlet or family that goes by the name 'South-south'. And, of course there is no man with such a name. Above all, our forefathers never bequeath such a name to anybody.
Certainlnly, there are Ijaws, Urhobos, Isokos, Ibos, Ibibios-efiks, kalabaris, Ogonis, and a lot of others that occupy the southern part of Nigeria, but none of them is called south-south.
Who then are you are you refering to as "south-south"? Please speak up, so that we know how to direct the answers that have already been lined up for you
Secondly, you have told a certain group that you have labelled as South-south to shut up. A proper understanding of English would translate to telling this people to " cease exercising their human right i.e. freedom of speech". Are you God to decide when people should speak? Do you have a better use for their tongue? Who gave you the audacity to decide when men should speak? Can you handle what will come out of men who do not speak but act out what is in their mind? Do you know that actions indeed speak louder than words?
Please state explicitly what credentials you posses to declare that human beings, created in God's image, with mouths freely given to them, should not speak.
We are waiting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
omonozozo (m)
|
@ omonozozo
we can have an enlightened and even angry discussion of this, without insults. the title is provocative, but that is Chxta's style.
Ugwumba: I can see you're a gentleman from the way you write, but I believe the person who started this topic deserves insults simply for making the stupid remark that people from the South-South should 'shut up'. I haven't read his blog and I don't want to read it, because it won't make any sense. I think Nigeria is cursed and will remain cursed until the injustices occurring in the Niger Delta are addressed. Even an idiot can see that what is happening there is not right. The least the people could ask for is that for once they would be represented by a president from there who would have their interests at heart. If that doesn't happen, I don't see a reason for the South-South to coexist with other parts of Nigeria. If the next president does not come from the South-South, I will happily agree with anyone who wants to nuke this rubbish called Nigeria, or destroy it in any way possible. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
xkape (m)
|
@chxta
If all u said came from some insulated Yoruba man that has lived in Gbogan all his life, I would not have been suprised by its ignorance. But given that u say u r Ibo, I am astounded
True, the ND is not the only marginalised section in Nigeria but hitherto they have not been able to defend themselves or protest. This is changing fast and the rest of Nigeria should quiver. Beware the wrath of one that has nothing to loose.
If oil feilds were abundant on the coasts of lagos and ondo, do u think the westerners would not have an iron grip on the resources? Either directly or indirectly, they would be the engineers, the managers, the beneficiaries, it would be used as leverage in the center. This is because they are big group, they can take care of themselves. If Nigerias oil was concentrated in Anambra and Enugu, who would be running the show?
The ND has been criminaly neglected over the years, by everybody else, not only the North
U say they don't go to school? Its a bit hard when u have to swim to school and risk being eaten by crocs don't u think? Its hard when there isnt a decent road in the whole ND. And don't blame Igbenedion, when was he born sef?
I am not a supporter of extremists like owo but two wrongs will never make a right
|
|
|
|
|
|
omonozozo (m)
|
Talk of peaceful demonstration: what does this mean to Nigerians? Ken Saro Wiwa demonstrated peacefully, the whole world recognised him and awarded him the Nobel prize for peace. What did Nigeria do to him? Hanged him. This is an abomination. The gods of the South-South are very angry at Nigeria, for all its atrocities against its people. Imagine the Nigerian government sending troops down to shoot at sight and burn people alive in their huts! This is why the curse of Nigeria will remain. The sins of Nigeria have to be atoned in many ways. One of the ways of ameliorating these crimes commited against humanity in the Niger Delta is to instate a public holiday in remembrance of Ken Saro Wiwa. Furthermore, the next Nigerian president should be from the South-South. Also, Warri should be developed like Abuja, and Port Harcourt should be developed like Dubai. Until all these things happen, God have mercy on Nigeria.
P.S. You may think by the way I am writing that I am from Warri, or Port Harcourt. I am not. It's just common sense.
|
|
|
|
|
|
owo (m)
|
where is the originator of this thread? where is that man who believes that he has the 'monopoly of speech'. where is the fella that thinks that over forty million mouths should be shut up?
where is chxta?
where is this guy whose views on the niger delta are shaped by pre-historic fables? where is this soul who has refused the simple fact that all humans are equal ? Where is this soul that seeks to deny fellow men their human right?
where is chxta?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
Nice bit of prose there, Owo I didn't know you were a poet. Read my second reply to Ono and digest it. @ omonozozo
we can have an enlightened and even angry discussion of this, without insults. the title is provocative, but that is Chxta's style.
Thanks my man. You are one of those worth discussing with. I am not regular online until Tuesday, currently in this nice place called the Isle of Man. . . Nutter, yes I appear to have masochistic tendencies, but then that statement was also made concerning Mahatma Ghandi (I would post the link when I find it), so nothing new. I have 'fought market' on a number of occasions in my life, and would probably continue to do so. But I think I'll handle this one better than the last  Owo, how can you even begin to contemplate denying the existence of the South-South geo-political zone? And no I didn't come here to brag, please don't make me seem boastful, I am not. I put the link here to incite discussion, and I am glad it has. Problem is, like with most Naija discussions, we tend to use our hearts to talk, not our heads. I have never in any post on any forum I belong to (even on my blog) implied that I have a monopoly of knowledge, and it is mighty unfair of you to insinuate such. I regularly use the phrase IMHO, in my humble opinion. So why would you think I believe that only I have a right to all knowledge? Omonozozo, Saro-Wiwa was never awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Stop distorting history. Xkape, I am an Igboman who has spent time in every state of Nigeria bar Kebbi, so I wouldn't think my positions are borne out of ignorance but rather out of what I have used my two kro-kro eyes to see. Don't you agree? At the beginning of my blog post (for those who read it, most of you here didn't) I said that some would hate me after reading it. I had no doubt about it, and I doubt it even less now. Nutter, writing (saying) what's on my mind has been my trademark since 1992, I am not about to change that now, or should I? Nwannem I need advice from you on that. Back to the story that has whipped up this new storm (another would come someday surely): just before I left Naija, I went to Warri to see a friend of mine who works in Shell. Naturally our discussion flowed to the spate of kidnaps. When I asked him what he thinks about it, he said the following: 'The management here find the so-called militants very funny. People who kidnap people just for money can't be taken as serious freedom fighters.' Can they really? "those who make peaceful change impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK.[i][/i] I am not about to start arguing with that extremely correct statement. You can only push a people so far. . . Is the militancy right? - well, in the light of there being no other alternatives,a big YES. All struggles in history to redress major wrongs have had to, at a time, rely on the use of violence. The ANC used this in SA and the IRA in Northern Ireland. Given the fact that the ANC finally 'won' only when the Soviet Union collapsed should be a topic for discussion as to the hypocrisy of the Western powers who are not in support of MEND and the like. Prof, make no mistake about this: the conflict in Northern Ireland is not yet dead. And I don't believe any group in Nigeria despite all the rhethoric are interested in fighting the Federal Government for a time span that encompasses 1916 up until now. . . Is the criminality right? - again, given the circumstances, these chaps have no other financial means to continue the struggle, so they resort to illegal bunkering and ransoms from kidnapping. Yes, I didn't question the chaps themselves, I questioned their leaders, and finally questioned what the money is actually being used for. At the very least, Hezb'llah use some of their money to provide for their people. Has MEND built one hospital? Who do they harm by doing this? The Nigerian state, but is this not their goal? the ANC and IRA resorted to armed robbery at different stages of their struggles, to fund their activities. Both did, all 'terrosrist' groups do that. But when money gained from illegal activities is diverted to buying Hummer jeeps (read Asari Dokubo), something isterribly wron isn't it? What, however, is lacking in this struggle is that there is no political arm of these militant groups that can articulate their demands in a civil manner, while still continuing the armed resistance. Thanks a lot. Will the FG's use of military might work to bring peace? - in all of history, the use of might against a perceived wrong has always failed. The only effect this will have is to further militarize the struggle and escalate things to where 'guerilla' type sabotage of FG and IOC facilities becomes commonplace and the killing of those kidnapped. If the political will is there on the part of the FG to suppress these uprisings, they would be put down. Afterall, the FG has the Odilis and the Jonathans and the Iboris. There is no denying that should he get back into government, Chief Okumagba would cease supporting the 'struggle'. I met him in Abuja once lobbying for a contract. The Chinese government is the closest example I can think of at the moment of a government who had the will to crush dissent, and they did it. I believe that this talk would continue later on, and I will be back to the net fully bu Tuesday or Wednesday tops. For now, I am going rowing. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sijien (m)
|
u are right about d militants chxta. i work with shell in warri, and i see them all the time. my class in sitp once went on a field trip to and on the way we were surrounded by militants. when they didnt see any whiteman with us they let us go because they felt that they wont make money if they kidnapped us. criminals.
|
|
|
|
|
|
owo (m)
|
Chxta, I am willing to speak in defense of the peoples of the real Niger Delta but not for some ill-defined group. Of recent, even Ondo state is now "part" of the the "Niger Delta" because there is money to be made etc etc. Please define the scope of the people that you are talking about.
Your statements are too grave to be overlooked.
|
|
|
|
|
|
xkape (m)
|
@owo
Are u saying Ondo state is not part of the Niger Delta? because the indegenes consider themselves Yorubas? Are u really preaching development for the region or just the same old nepotism and bigotry?
|
|
|
|
|
|
mochafella (m)
|
erm, I don't think Ondo is part of the Niger Delta though I think it is included under NDDC. Abia and Imo are also included if I remember correctly. The Niger Delta is probably best considered as the area significantly covered by the delta of the River Niger despite political definitions to the contrary. I hope that makes sense.
Also the SS is "different" from the Niger Delta. I see the SS as the remainder of the southern states that could not be "truly" considered as SE or SW.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sijien (m)
|
see them (naija deltans) already fighting even on d internet. this is how dey want to rule naija? this post is so true.
|
|
|
|
|
|
GNature (m)
|
@chxta
You should have come up with a better way of putting your point across than saying "The South -South Should Shut Up". I have not read your piece, but I still feel you have presented yourself in bad light with the phrasing of your topic.
|
|
|
|
|
|
omonozozo (m)
|
Omonozozo, Saro-Wiwa was never awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Stop distorting history.
Ken Saro-Wiwa had received the Goldman Environmental Prize which is the alternative Nobel Peace Prize. He was also a Nobel Peace Prize nominee. Imagine all of this, but he was hanged!
|
|
|
|
|
|
ono (m)
|
erm, I don't think Ondo is part of the Niger Delta though I think it is included under NDDC. Abia and Imo are also included if I remember correctly. The Niger Delta is probably best considered as the area significantly covered by the delta of the River Niger despite political definitions to the contrary. I hope that makes sense.
Also the SS is "different" from the Niger Delta. I see the SS as the remainder of the southern states that could not be "truly" considered as SE or SW.
Excellent definitions!
|
|
|
|
|
|
DRANOEL (m)
|
@chxta i am 100% with you!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
Ken Saro-Wiwa had received the Goldman Environmental Prize which is the alternative Nobel Peace Prize. He was also a Nobel Peace Prize nominee. Imagine all of this, but he was hanged!
Yes, he was hanged by the man who was his business partner in oil bunkering when Saro-Wiwa was a comissioner under Alfred Diete-Spiff. . .
|
|
|
|
|
|
owo (m)
|
@ All I wish to show, in the next few lines, why this post is the most vivid expression of shallow-mindedness . If this post indeed refers to the peoples of the Niger Delta (though I am still waiting for clarification by this thread's originator) then, I set-out to show that; 1. Those that propound or support theories/moves that border on limiting other people's freedom of expression are at best grossly myopic and ignorant.The graveyard has been observed to be the place with the highest potential .Certainly it is, for therein lies women/men/children and their unexpressed, unutilized, unfulfilled ideas, views and desires. Without doubt, humans, the zenith of nature's creatures, posses the greatest of abilities in the mortal universe. These abilities can bring infinite good if allowed to flourish and vise versa. Consequently, enlightened souls have always sought and pursued the concept of freedom-of-expression because humanity will bury all its best ideas in the graveyard without it. In this light, it is easily observed that the most progressive of societies are the ones that allow the highest levels of “freedom”. Martin Luther King exercised this freedom of speech (against all odds) and inspired generations of ‘blacks’ into their freedom. Rosa parks insisted on this freedom and paved the way for generations yet unborn to live their life to the fullest. Imagine what world music would have been if all blacks were told to "shut up" and forced to stop singing. What is soccer without blacks? What are Olympic sprints without blacks? What is NBA without blacks? Think about where the multitudes of Nigerians that are schooling abroad would have been if people did not dare the “powers that were” and insisted on freedom and equality and hence lowering the scourge of racism and hence access to education. I posit strongly that, in every field of endeavor, ‘freedom’ holds the key to growth, blossoming and ultimate prosperity.If women were oppressed and “forced” to shut up (as it happens in some soceities), then the world would not have had any Angela Merkel, Condoleezza Rice, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, Dora Akunyili, Indra Nooyi etc. and all the "good" that has/will come out of them. To state that some section of Nigeria’s geopolitical space should shut up on the presidency issue is certainly an attempt at [seeking to take] taking away the human right of a people. Therefore, any attempt or suggestion at gagging the “mouth” of the peoples of the Niger Delta in their quest for Nigeria’s presidency is a clear symptom of backward thinking and self destructive ignorance. 2. Seeking to deny people their “freedom of expression” is the stock-in-trade of those that lack self confidence.The timid and fearful usually imagine a world where they can speak and act unchallenged. Why? They are not confident of their stance. If such people created the sky, there would not be more than one star because their timid mind makes them to believe that only one star can shine at any time. Fortunately, the beauty of the starry night is that billions of stars can shine in the sky at the same time. Therein lays the folly of the timid. In this group (of timid men/women) are; [a.]Military (of civilian) dictators that jail journalists and human right defenders that dare to challenge their words or dare to voice alternative opinions. [b.]Religious fanatics that murder others that do not believe in their religion or toe their myopic line of thinking [c.] Chxta and his cohorts who suggest that Niger Deltans should not have a right to free speech or a right to aspire to be what they want to be (including presidency) in a country that is ran/oiled/fed/kept-alive by their resources. [d.] Etc etc. Few things under the sun reveal the depth of personal insecurity that small minds have as much as when they seek to curtail the freedom of other people just because they believe that it will make them to have more of that freedom. Unknown to them, freedom is like air, you can only have a lung-full at a time and it does not stop another person from having his own fill. Therefore, even the thought of silencing (not to talk of saying it in public) the peoples of the Niger Delta are a clear indication of fear, personal insecurity and lack of self-confidence.
I submit that all men, irrespective or creed or status, must be allowed to be what they want to be. Nigeria is in its current quagmire because some of its leaders and citizens, in their twisted minds, do not see the collective harm that occurs when they insist on putting down the other person in their bid to shine. see them (naija deltans) already fighting even on d internet. this is how dey want to rule naija? this post is so true.
@Sijien Its certain that the hatred that you have, for the finger that is feeding you, is boiling over. You work for Shell, the Chief culprit in the rape and bastardization of the Delta, but yet you voice such comments that have become your trademark within the short time that you have spent on this forum. I wish you “goodluck”.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
Nice reply.
Before you take time to type lenghty replies, take time to read the original post. I just noticed that there is no need replyingto you as you obviously haven't read what I wrote.
Adios.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Nutter (m)
|
@Chxta, Isle of Man, huh? Pity you have been cast into that backwater (pun intended!). Anyway, I hear the locals are generally friendly (towards you? I cannot be sure). Nothing like London where smiling is a sign of weakness. Nutter, yes I appear to have masochistic tendencies, but then that statement was also made concerning Mahatma Ghandi (I would post the link when I find it), so nothing new. It’s not quite the same, I don’t think. Ghandi famously associated with the ‘untouchables’ of India, thereby allowing their voices to be heard. You are proposing the stifling of voices – the exact opposite. Therefore, the similarity between you and Ghandi begins and ends with the fascination with flip-flops. I have 'fought market' on a number of occasions in my life, and would probably continue to do so. But I think I'll handle this one better than the last I doubt that. There are many holes in your current proposition. The pressure from work doesn’t allow me to go into as much detail as I’d like. Suffice it to say that you need to revisit, revise and ultimately retract what you have said/written. Nutter, writing (saying) what's on my mind has been my trademark since 1992, I am not about to change that now, or should I? Nwannem I need advice from you on that. You fiercely defend your right to speak your mind yet rush to withdraw this same right from an entire region? Does that make any sense to you? Why should we take you seriously? Er? Chxta!?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
My dear Nutter, that you didn't take the time to read what I wrote disappoints me. Where did I say that they have no right to speak? Asking someone to shut up, and taking away his right to speak are they the same? @Chxta,
Isle of Man, huh? Pity you have been cast into that backwater (pun intended!). Anyway, I hear the locals are generally friendly (towards you? I cannot be sure). Nothing like London where smiling is a sign of weakness. Was in the Isle of Man, back in London now. Perhaps we would meet on the tube someday? You can't miss me. I always have a Naija map and flag as my badge. It’s not quite the same, I don’t think. Ghandi famously associated with the ‘untouchables’ of India, thereby allowing their voices to be heard. You are proposing the stifling of voices – the exact opposite. Therefore, the similarity between you and Ghandi begins and ends with the fascination with flip-flops. I am not proposing a stifling of voices. Read my post. I am proposing that more reasonable people should be put at the helm of affairs. . . I doubt that. There are many holes in your current proposition. The pressure from work doesn’t allow me to go into as much detail as I’d like. Suffice it to say that you need to revisit, revise and ultimately retract what you have said/written. I'd like to see you come up with a better proposition that the one I have. By the way, in my blogpost I condemned both Atiku and IBB, whilst recommending a Southerner for the post. But then again, people see only what they want to see. . . You fiercely defend your right to speak your mind yet rush to withdraw this same right from an entire region? Does that make any sense to you? Why should we take you seriously? Er? Chxta!? Once again, I didn't withdraw anyone's right to speak. Won't it be better if all those who want to stiffle me read what I wrote and attack the content of my ideas? Part of our collective problem is that we fail to seperate issues from personalities. I daresay were it my dear nwanne Nutter that wrote the same piece, Ono and Owo would have accepted it whole heartedly. But this time it was Chxta. . .
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chxta (m)
|
This is one of the comments posted on me blog by a reader. Azuka like me is an Igbo guy: As long as we maintain tribal-biased paradigms, there's no way we will ever succeed. Looking at all 500+ tribes we have in Nigeria, and the many subdialects who don't even understand each other, it will take at least a millenium for each tribe to produce on president per four-year term.
On the Niger Delta groups, guerilla warfare has always fascinaed me. Why do people gang up and blow up innocent citizens because of their demands? I fell the motive of the militants is noble, but they're being led by the wrong leaders. I've always advocated peace in everything I do and studying these groups, it seems to me that there is a 'higher power' controllling them.
So far, I see no monetary gain the youths themselves get from carrying out acts of violence. Some people stand to gain however, by their acts.
I'm working on a novel called The Farce in which I explore a fictitious militant group and what motivates them. I'm turning up a lot of interesting facts from my research.At Owo, what Sijien is saying about the youths is what a lot of oil workers are saying now. Doesn't mean they hate people from the region.
|
|
|
|
|
|