Albino Is Not The Same Thing As Being Light Skin- Igbos Wake Up!

Stop blaming Igbo light skinnedness on being albino. Albino is not the same as being light skinned. Im sooooo sick and tired of this shit it makes me sick.  Everytime I ask my mom and dad why my paternal grandfather is so fair, why he has such attributes as freckles, reddish hair and light colored eyes we resort to we don’t know? That just how we are…that’s the gene, how the mess did these traits end up in AFRICAN GENE POOL, in the Igbo gene pool to begin with? So we are products of a DISEASE? I’m so sick of it Albino is a fucking disease that occurs in reccesive form in homogenous groups IGBOS ARE NOT EVEN HOMOGENOUS WE ARE VERY HETEROGENEOUS- Northern Nnsukka/Enugu or Anambra Igbo is distinguished from Awka igbo, from onitcha or beni Igbo, Anioma-southern Igbo, from eastern Arochukwu/Bendel Igbo not to mention all the delta igbos, and they all speak different dialects this is proof that we are heterogeneous!!.

Most people that are albino, especially blacks, have very negro like features, wide nose big lips, and they look weird and off because their skin and facial features contrast so much, their hair and eyes completely lack complexion, they are not light skin, yellowbone or redbone like many Igbos I’ve seen, but they completely lack complexion (pale white!!!).  That is not what granddaddy looks like! His nose is not even wide its very straight, his face is long and narrow, he has curly/wavy not nappy hair what the mess!, he looks more mixed than Obama- who is genetically mixed but ethnically black, it’s not albinism as we like to believe.  Igbos are too proud and really need to come out of denial and face reality. Why is there so much controversy around our origins?

Why are there so many striking similarities between Igbo and akata (esp. in America they are almost non-distinguishable), with the variaton of skin tone (from blue black wesley snipes to really high yellow Mariah carey- yess I’ve seen Igbo people like this many of which are in my family) and features (very black looking to very white and even Asian looking!!) its not just skin tone but it’s features too- this is not albinism people wake up!!!! Why is it that we expect akatas or African Americans I should say to accept all parts of their genetic make up and ethnicity (African, native American, Eruopean) but they are still black thanks to hypo-decent (one drop of black blood makes you black) but we ourselves do not (predominantly Igbo & other African, possibly European, Arab/jewish)  did you know that Igbos follow the same hypo-decent rule???
 
One drop of Igbo blood makes you Igbo! You could be ¾  plantain, sushi, or corn tortilla, but if you’re ¼ Igbo U R IGBO!! In fact you don’t even have to be of Igbo blood if you are taken by an Igbo man or Igbo family you are Igbo, you can be adopted!! Please check this out:
http://www.biafraland.com/Igbo-ness%20and%20Biafra.htm

This rule just creates so much room for so much non- African or non-Igbo genes to enter our gene pool just as it has done for African Americans and creoles!!!

It’s so fuckin hypocritical. Why else would there be so much variation (and don’t say albinism cuz im sick and had just about enough of hearin that crap I also don‘t want to hear that crap about how we naturally vary- yes Africans are naturally the most diverse group but let’s not deceive ourselves, we are in Africa, it‘s HOT damn it what sense would it make for our DNA to naturally  or sporadically code for light skin, wavy or straight hair how did these genes get there in the first place)? I know many Igbo people around my age that wonder the same thing asking their parents why we are usually very light skinned and so varied, but to no avail they get the same bullshit- ALBINISM!

They wonder why their brother is a deep chocalate brown, they came out caramel nappy headed but their sister came out high yellow with long wavy hair, we have just as much variation as African Americans like I said. Although they do have some albinos, you don’t see African Americans and creoles  as a whole accrediting their variation and non-black features to being albino or carrying some genetically mutated, weird strain of albinism (that shit sound ridiculous and dumb as mess! LOL!!)! A lot of African Americans and creole people have non-black traits because they are MGM (multigerationally mixed with French, Dutch Amerindian, African etc). we Igbo people have almost as much variation as the aforementioned ethnic groups, especially Aro people.  To me, Igbos are to African Americans as Creoles are to Aro people. I’ve seen igbos that resemble Gabrielle Union, Nia long, Rihanna and Will Smith and Aro people that resemble Alicia Keys, Tina Knowles, and Collin Powell, none of these people are albino or albino looking they are mixed!!! But we automatically denounce this instantly because we are “African” or in the continent of Africa. Just because we didn’t go over the Atlantic ocean by the boatloads and some how remained in Africa/Nigeria either by mere fate, escaping, or by forming trade relations with the white slave traders that came to continent of Africa (as the Aro merchants did) doesn’t necessarily mean that all of our DNA since the beginning of time is 100%African  CAN WE PLEASE KNOW THIS!!!

a lot of non-black genes came into the African continent, through trade/ contact with Arabs, Egyptians, Phonecians, Europeans, Jews. Did we forget about colonialism HELLO!!!! Nigeria was not always a country but an area made up of different ethnic groups. This lasted until the white colonial masters drew borderlines. So the same thing was happening on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, these colonial masters had their African native mistresses and so forth, probably not to the same extent as in the Americas but it definitely happened, one has only to read Chinua Achebe’s book Things Fall Apart to know this! This is not called ALBINISM folks wake the mess up!!! this is what u call racial mixing- very prevalent in ethnic groups that follow the hypo-decent rule.

It may have happened a long time ago even our parents and grand parents don’t know it because we would usually have to date all the way back to when the Portuguese 1st arrived at the shores of Africa, then came the French, Dutch, and lastly British. That would explain why we use the word sabi (portugese origin)  for “to know” in Nigerian pidgin English, and places w/ names like el rio real, el rio del rey, Ideato, Owerrita, Calabar, Port Hartcourt, Duke town, Henshaw town, Creek town, all that shit sounds Portuguese, Dutch and English to me. 

For many you’d have to go back to the beginning of  human civilization to figure out why we have so many similarities with the Israelites, why Igbo indigenous religion is almost identical to Judaism.  Look up the Nri kingdom/people and see how they reference Eri Son of Gad as their progenitor. And this group (Nri-Igbo) is supposed to be the foundation of all Igbo civilization. See how they accepted all walks of life into their community .

“It is their first duty to accept anybody who walks into the Nri community seeking to have a new life. It does not matter if their former communities rejected them or if they willingly left their communities as long as those immigrants respect Nri laws.” If this doesn’t just spell outcaste, half-caste and foreigners, I don’t know what does, so many mutts had to have resulted from this!

http://www.nrikingdom.com/default.asp?id=history&mnu=hmnu
http://www.kwenu.com/publications/anunobi/leadership_crises2.htm
http://www.chikodianunobi.com/pages/books-in-print/nri/tranditions_beliefs.htm

 This may be why in the core Igbo area at grave sites you find artifacts like Manillas, coral beads, plates and bronzes (originally from India)?
http://hum.lss.wisc.edu/hjdrewal/IgboUkwu.html
http://www.phantomvoyagers.com/Book.htm



Why we now have tomatoes and maize, wheat and rice non-indigenous agriculture brought to Nigeria by the Portuguese and other Asian, Arab and Indian communities.  It would explain why we have sculptures of ancestor figures (Ekpu) that clearly resemble orthodox Jews (big hat, curly side locks, beard), check this out:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/869670
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/IBIBIO-ORON-EKPU-ANCESTOR-AFRICAN-ART-FIGURE-NIGERIA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ250313222456
http://jeru.huji.ac.il/jeru/pic23.jpg
http://morefire.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/37024583waitingforthebrooklynferry.jpg




 The evidence is abundant not just in our appearance (skin tones and certain features) but in artifacts and sculptures, agriculture, and folklore…we were involved with other cultures and other races, can we stop being BLIND!!! How many Igbos can contact their ancestors pre-1400’s? I bet you’d be very surprised if you could. And we barely even keep records of such contacts (I’m not talkin about nsibidi but official records). It is almost impossible to find pure bred people nowadays anyway, almost everyone is mixed some where down their line-Europeans, Asians, Americans, AFRICANS too, just cuz we cant trace it and cuz we’re African doesn’t means that we should automatically denounce it as a POSSIBILITY, again I stress POSSIBILITY. why cant we accept this and move on?!  But noooo  we’d much rather be products of a disease called albino, we’re just too busy

I support you totally. I am Yoruba and light-skinned. The stupid colorist like to assume that I am Ibo.

They are trying to enslave peoples minds with lies so as to establish racial supremacist doctrine in society.

They want us to beleive that we are the mistakes of nature but it is all the work of satan their father.

We are a fine blend of genes. We gotta increase in love for one another and also in number. So we should only

marry one another. That is only light-skinned blacks should marry each other so we will have more light-

skinned babies. We will also escape colorism and a lack of community by doing so. Go to the bible. Moses

married a Cushim a dark skinned woman and we that know she wasHamitic Ethiopian. So his two sons

Gershom and Eliezer we light-skinned blacks because Moshe was light-skinned. We have always existed and

God wanted the holy man Moshe to have light-skinned half-Ethiopian children. Haleluyah.

skinned Hebrew.

I don't know if there are albino's in the  US (Black Americans) but i do know that the majority of black Americans in the US and South America were genetically traced to be of Igbo Origin (NeYo and Bishop T.D. Jakes for e.g). If that be the case, there should be albinos amongst them.
Are there also sicklers amongst them?

"We are lightskin because we are lightskin (simple as that).  Some of us aren't lightskin but dark for example: Genny, Oluchi, Ikenna, etc."
Great Another topic saying Igbos are mixed, yada, yada.  Abeg, STOP SAYING THAT. 
if we do not have albino blood like you claimed then how come significiant amount of Igbo people are Albinos.  How come we have the highest amount of albinos than any other tribe in Nigeria? 
All we are doing is dividing ourselves.  Take a look at Angola or Namibia, people claim they are a mixture of black and white and yet they don't look mixed me.  They rather claim African.
Maybe the reason we are lightskin is just a genetic thing we recieved.  There are siginificant amount of igbos that look mixed when they are lightskin such as


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_rA06spDZ0SE/Riz4qwsdE4I/AAAAAAAAAB8/GwXyHGSSGeA/s320/Mrs%5B1%5D._Ndidi_O._Nwuneli__FounderC.E.O__LEAP_Africa.jpg
http://www.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ada1.jpg
http://mbgn.silverbirdgroup.com/admn/uploads/past%20winners/munachi_nwanknwo(imo_2007)(1).jpg
http://www.mademags.com/images/man_on_top/170/Modupe1.bmp
http://www.africanseer.com/thumbnail.php?file=Tonto_Dike_251803588.jpg&size=article_medium

And then there are significant lightskin igbos that don't look mixed
http://nm.onlinenigeria.com/articlefiles/8611-eme.gif
http://nigeriamovies.net/pictures/monalisa.jpWe

Nice try but it's not as simple as that.  And by posting those pics u have helped me further prove my point. It's not albinism and it's not just simply genetic, that sounds sooo stupid!! Those that are light and look mixed look that way because most likely they are! It could be anywhere from a few to many generations ago.  Once again I ask (whether light & mixed-looking, just light, or dark skinned) how many Igbos can contact, locate or have any knowledge about their ancestors pre 1400's? Can you or do you? I'm not even going to lie, I know I dont.

Plze get real, u really need to wake up!

@ naijaamer9

You want to believe we mixed up with jews so much don't you? Child i've you ever seen a mixture of an igbo albino and and igbo darkskin person, huh?  Well i have, my 2nd cousin is that mixture. His mom is albino and his father isn't.  He has his mom hair (The bloodish kind of hair) and he has light eyes and his a little bit close to being as lightskin as his mom but no so much.  His more like Beyonce skincolor.  To me, he looks like a regular lightskin igbo boy. So abi, should i tell him he's mixed based on you're theory.  Umm what about my greatgrandmother begin lightskin as mess but none of her offsprings came out looking like her.  My aunt came out looking like her, two of my cousinscame out looking like her, one of my uncle is as lightskin as her but doesn't look like her, other than them, i don't think anyother person came out looking like her.  So based on you're theory, they mixed up because they are lightskin and my aunt and my cosins look mixed but they aren't while the rest of us from the same bloodline(my greatgrandmother) didn't mix up because we ain't as light as them?   
Another question, how did we mixed up with jews?  You know it's only been about 2 generations since we started interacting with them.  or are you saying our ancestors were raped?  Oh well,  I guess since you want to believe that statement so much. Me i go let you believe it. Yes igbo people are mixed LMFAO.  Abi, if i ever meet Adaeze or Munachi, i go tell them they mixed up with jews. Shit, i should pick up the phone and call all my lightskin family members, i need to tell them they are mixture of jews and igbos.  LMFAO. Me, i go let you believe that statement as much as you want.  Next you go tell me, we mixed up with Egyptians abi?  oh well believe what you want.

some blacks have very long and curly hair. Even very dark skinned people. However, the hair still isnt straight/white but just curly and a bit longer than most other folks'. For some reason, some dark skinned individuals are very hirsute.

This kind of hair is more pronounced with some dark skinned people though they can pass it on to their lighter skinned kids, as was the case with some people I know. Sometimes the light skin comes with "kalahari" hair and the kids "inherit" their dark skinned parents' long curly "Obama" hair.

Genes are crazy, I'm sure.

People also tend to ignore the aspect of red haired Africans with greenish eyes and reddish skin.  They may not be albinos but could be a link. Generally considered very attractive however.

Oh and when I say mixed I hope we are not implying biracial, or immediately mixed.  When I say MIXED, I’m usually referring to MGM or mixture that may have taken place a very long time ago.  Even the great-grandparents of most of our great-grandparents wouldn’t  have a clue as to where such variation and mixed looks came from because they would have to go (as I have said a cagillion times) all the way back to pre 1400’s.  So of course they are not mixed directly and have no clue as to where it came from.  But we should be wise enough to know that ALBINISM and MIXED LOOKING, are two totally separate entities, and that these mixed attributes didn‘t just pop up out of nowhere.  This rule is not only relevant to Igbo people but it applies to any other group that were originally of Bantu, or Bantu-like stock, and originally had BANTU like features, then somewhere during the existence of these groups, other genes fell into there gene pool a long time ago, creating the various looks we see in many Nigerians today, and it is especially indicating and apparent in those that are MIXED LOOKING, not ALBINO looking, but MIXED LOOKING! 

hello ifygurl, we idoma not iduoma.

Ehn, abomination!     Of course we have people of mixed cultures and ethnicities but that's not our identity.  Our identity is Yoruba and we are a negroid people.  The root of the founding father of our civilization can be traced back to the Cushites. 

Still can't understand the obsession with the everly boring issue of defining lightskin in the black race. Who bloody cares!!!

No we don't. Where you get this info? We have on average about 13% european ancestry. I have 10% european and 10% Native American, the rest is African. I've been to Igbo parties/weddings/jubilees and I was shocked to see more light skinned folks than I would at a comparable African American event.

I'm sure you might know some AA's with Arab admixture, but it is no where near the norm(like less than 1% of the population). I know Africans have Arab blood(like the current  president of Niaja), but 99% of AA's don't.
Where would we get this supposed Arab admixture? From our West African ancestors? Perhaps,  In America? (not many Arabs in the south during times of slavery), definitely not. If, so from our West African ancestors it was very minimal as that would only be the case in northern western Africa. 

We as in most AAs. I'm not telling those select few AAs to deny their arab ancestry, but don't go around saying "Many AA's have Arab ancestry" like it's commonplace. And what brainwashing are you talking about?

 

in any case, i've since discovered other factors that contribute to a high rate of albinism.

not interested in sharing, so kudos @topic.

i can't believe this topic is still going on. Hilarious

Ifygirl you are right. Igbos are generally light skin because this particular genetic mutation has been allowed to prosper among the ethnic group whether by way of sexaul selection or by simple coincidence.

Igbos are not mixed with anything no more so as Fulani are mixed with Arabs. People do not understand genetic drifting and need to take a class on the subject matter instead of making up speculative stories based on Phenotypical observation.

The only two possible scientific reasons for the occurence of light complextion among the Igbos is

1.genentically they are predisposed to display this particular trait because African DNA already has the ability to mutate for lighter complextion without any introduction of foreign DNA_ FACT
These genes can say recessive in any Igbo carrier and manifest it self as a Dominant gene if by incidence both parents pass it on in the correct sequence to their offspring

2. Nutrition, diet and interaction with the physical enviroment also influence or determine the way genes mutate and present themselves phenotypically in most humans. It may be over several 100's of years this was the case for the igbo based on their nutritional intake.



If any body wants to refute these two presentations as near possible reasons for ligth skinned presentation in many African commuties of which the igbo are one. Please indulge me and  be my guest

@konadub

You are right but just wanted to add since the African DNA types mutated first and spread from Africa to Arabia to Europe and then Western Europe. AA's will exihibit the dominant/earliest Gene mutations PHENOTYPICALLY.

This is the reason Halle Berry looks more "black/African" in quotes than "European" in quotes

Although this is not the case in a 100% of the time.

The logic stems from Dominant expressions of genes "Phenotypically" which more than 50% of the time express the bio geographical adaptations of Africans i.e black/brown skin, cranial/ body morphology and hair texture varieties that exist without the necessary introduction of European genes