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Eddy Tells (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #32 on: October 17, 2005, 10:12 AM »

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marriages between atheists and christians

i really do not see how that would work.  But if it does, then definitely there is a God
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #33 on: October 17, 2005, 10:16 AM »

Quote from: Eddy Tells on October 17, 2005, 10:10 AM
Grin fight attack
@ lioness - whats up girl?
Yeah, if arguments fail you... appeal to emotion  Sad
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #34 on: October 17, 2005, 10:17 AM »

Quote from: Eddy Tells on October 17, 2005, 10:12 AM

i really do not see how that would work. But if it does, then definitely there is a God

Our marriage is the proof it does.

And that's the most weird logic I've ever seen. Care to explain?
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #35 on: October 17, 2005, 10:32 AM »

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What's that supposed to mean?  exactly what it reads.  For someone with a better choice of words, i'd expect you'd understand simplier words.  Or are u going toask me toexplainwhat i've just said again.

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No, but I can attest to the fact that there is no impediment to succes. And its slightly arrogant (for a lack of better words, I don't mean anything so harsh) to imply that I cannot have any insight in christianity because I'm no christian. Shouldn't one study lions in the wild because you're not a lion yourself. Don't you have anythin meaningful to say becasue your a non-lion. Maybe it even gives you more insight because you have a little more distance

Well, if u feel u shd know better about christainity because your outside the boat...  well thumps up for u then. These days, anything can "shele".

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Now that's funny.
Do you mean that marriages between atheists and christians have more chance of succeeding than those between christians of different denominations?  Now i have said no such thing.  like u said, there's no impedi...  Grin Huh to success.
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #36 on: October 17, 2005, 10:33 AM »

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[What's that supposed to mean?/quote]  exactly what it reads.  For someone with a better choice of words, i'd expect you'd understand simplier words.  Or are u going toask me toexplainwhat i've just said again.

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[No, but I can attest to the fact that there is no impediment to succes. And its slightly arrogant (for a lack of better words, I don't mean anything so harsh) to imply that I cannot have any insight in christianity because I'm no christian. Shouldn't one study lions in the wild because you're not a lion yourself. Don't you have anythin meaningful to say becasue your a non-lion. Maybe it even gives you more insight because you have a little more distance
/quote]Well, if u feel u shd know better about christainity because your outside the boat...  well thumps up for u then. These days, anything can "shele".

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[Now that's funny.
Do you mean that marriages between atheists and christians have more chance of succeeding than those between christians of different denominations? /quote] Now i have said no such thing.  like u said, there's no impedi...  Grin Huh to success.
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #37 on: October 17, 2005, 10:43 AM »

Quote from: lioness on October 17, 2005, 10:33 AM
[What's that supposed to mean?/quote]  exactly what it reads.  For someone with a better choice of words, i'd expect you'd understand simplier words.  Or are u going toask me toexplainwhat i've just said again.
Actually I am - sorry for that. I honestly don't understand what you mean with "I guess you just explain your kind of marriage."

Quote from: lioness on October 17, 2005, 10:33 AM
Now i have said no such thing.  like u said, there's no impedi...  Grin Huh to success.
Sorry here Again, forgive me my choice of words, as English is not my mother tongue, I sometimes use words I've picked up, without knowing whether or not they're widely used. I mean nothing should be preventing the success of the mariage.
And I was just trying to follow up on the logic. Apparently without success
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #38 on: October 17, 2005, 10:48 AM »

 Lips sealed

Hey Nferyn, There's no pattern to a successful marriage okay. If yours has worked  well, .... kool.
Am not gonna keep arguing with you over what we both know okay. So give it a rest,
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #39 on: October 17, 2005, 11:00 AM »


Sorry for being the obnoxious male and wanting to have the last word, but the issue wasn't entirely closed to me.

Quote from: lioness on October 17, 2005, 10:48 AM
Lips sealed

Hey Nferyn, There's no pattern to a successful marriage okay. If yours has worked well, .... kool.
Am not going to keep arguing with you over what we both know okay. So give it a rest,

Now I know that There's no pattern to a successful marriage actually equals I guess you just explain your kind of marriage.

I just noticed a negative tone to I guess you just explain your kind of marriage, but is was unwarranted
Motee (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #40 on: October 17, 2005, 11:00 AM »

I think one of the issues between Pentecostal and Catholic Marriages is their way of serving the Lord which is totally different.  

I respect Catholic worshippers because most of them are devoted but I disagree on so many issues with them and one of it is that of bowing down for Holy Mary.  To Pentecostal, you are worshiping a statute and it is a sin from our own point of view.

I think it is very, very important for couples to understand what they both believe before going into it. Ordinarily, the issue of religion can break a home and that is why we need to settle this before going into marriage.

@ Seun: Can you invite a Pastor to tell us all about Catholic and Pentecostal Worshippers?
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #41 on: October 17, 2005, 11:09 AM »

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[Sorry for being the obnoxious male and wanting to have the last word, but the issue wasn't entirely closed to me.]

Nothing tobe sorry about.  Its not a male thing its just you.    Hope i wont have to explain this  Roll Eyes

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[Now I know that There's no pattern to a successful marriage actually equals I guess you just explain your kind of marriage.
I just noticed a negative tone to I guess you just explain your kind of marriage, but is was unwarranted]

They mean 2 entirely different things. And for goodness sake Nferyn, your marriage isnt the issue on ground. If you've got doubts or issues with your marriage, post a topic.

Da lioness is a gonna ROAR at you soon
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #42 on: October 17, 2005, 11:24 AM »

@ lioness
If you feel that a successfull marriage between a Christian and and atheist does not support the thesis that marriages between catholics and Pentecostals can be successful, please say so.

It would hurt me that people that really love each other would be turned away from each other, just because of some doctrinal differences between their two Christian faiths. The joke I posted before is till very much on topic:


          A man is walking across a bridge, when he sees another guy about to jump off.
          "Hey, man" he says, "you don't have to do that."
          "Why not?" the other guy says, "I've got nothing to live for. I lost my job, I'm bankrupt,
          my wife left me and took the kids, my car threw a rod, and my dog just died. My life totally sucks."
          "But God still loves you," the man says, "you believe in God, don't you?"
          "Well, I guess so," the guy says.
          "Tell me, are you a Christian?"
          "Yes" the guy answers.
          "Well, so am I!" the man says. "Catholic or Protestant?"
          "I'm Protestant"
          "Well, so am I!" "Methodist, or Baptist, or Presbyterian?"
          "I'm Baptist."
          Well, so am I!" "Northern or Southern Baptist?"
          "Northern Baptist."
          "Well so am I!" "Northern fundamentalist, liberal, or reformed?"
          "Northern fundamentalist."
          "Well, so am I!" "Northern fundamentalist eastern region, or Great Lakes region?"
          "Northern fundamentalist, eastern region."
          "Well, so am I!" "Northern fundamentalist, eastern region conference of 1898, or conference of           
          1912?"
          "Northern fundamentalist, eastern region, conference of 1912."
          "Die, heretic!" the man says, and pushes him off the bridge.


Turning it into me having issues with my marriage is dishonest. I only used it as an example to explain that the issue at hand, shouldn't prevent two people that love each other dearly from marrying. That's my point
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #43 on: October 17, 2005, 11:45 AM »

Nferyn,

You must either love to argue or you dont even trust your own decisions. I thot we had dropped this issue.

Okay i agree with you and all your views.............. Now can we move on.

And by the way, that joke of yours, doesnt really justify anything.
Seun (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #44 on: October 17, 2005, 12:10 PM »

This topic has been locked for drifting off topic.
Eddy Tells (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #45 on: November 08, 2005, 02:35 PM »

hey seun, is this back up.
fabian (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #46 on: November 08, 2005, 02:45 PM »

*Hmm, passes by*
nferyn (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #47 on: November 08, 2005, 03:07 PM »

We're on speaking terms again  Cheesy
I don't think anything more needs to be added to this discussion. It has derailed already too much.

But if you insist ... Grin
fabian (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #48 on: November 08, 2005, 03:12 PM »

Nferyn is always ready for an e-argument! Makes for interesting reading, anyway!  Cheesy
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #49 on: November 08, 2005, 04:14 PM »

A pastor said its better to be a muslim than a catholic. 
fabian (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #50 on: November 08, 2005, 05:01 PM »

That's a terrible thing to say! What pastor is that? i would like to know!
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #51 on: November 08, 2005, 05:17 PM »

na so i think the thingy too oo
fabian (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #52 on: November 09, 2005, 12:52 PM »

Lioness, you are too funny! Grin
chrisd (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #53 on: January 06, 2006, 09:23 PM »

My lady ran away because I was was Catholic. I did not understand why, so there you go. But she talked about spirits every time and I never kept my mouth shut  Huh Huh Grin Grin
Logical (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #54 on: January 06, 2006, 09:43 PM »

Quote from: lioness on November 08, 2005, 04:14 PM
A pastor said its better to be a muslim than a catholic. 

Quote from: fabian on November 08, 2005, 05:01 PM
That's a terrible thing to say! What pastor is that? i would like to know!

That is christians for  you, at display, yet they claim to be, what is it again Huh

It has been proven by past historical events, that only a "few" amount of people are normally in the right "cause". The question is what congregation would that be?

So called Christains? A lot of people read their books, because it is always the word. It gets the largest crowd.Think again.
Muslims? Difficulty and mis-intepretation drives people away. People don't read about what their books preach, they just assume and conclude.
Budhists? People don't read about their books, so they are always taught to be idolators, which actually they arent.
Hindus? Just like Budhism, people don't read about them, they just conclude.
and so and so.

And religion itself is questionable, since it is a human created term to qualify a certain collection or should i say congregation with one belief. But is religion turning to cultism?

Some practices in some religions points towards that direction.


Lioness and Fabian are you "true" christians?  or Allow me to re-phrase  it, Do you think you are "true" christians?

When a person is myopic, irrational, are not educated, how then would he/she think he is elightened? We are not taught one  subject in school for example, have you given it a taught as to why it is so?

Why is christianity , islam or even other religions better than each other? I am still yet to get an intellectual answer, because there is always this irrational approach presented by the believers in disscussing religious related subjects.
I think it is like tribalism, or racism or even worse than that.

Religion seperates people, believe it or not. It brings disorder in the world we live in today, just as tribalism and racism does.
chrisd (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #55 on: January 09, 2006, 10:20 AM »

Well put logical
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #56 on: January 09, 2006, 12:00 PM »


am a true christain, believe it or not. And i don't see any much difference in christainity [irrespective of the denomination] Are u a christain?Huh??

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[Lioness and Fabian are you "true" christians?  or Allow me to re-phrase  it, Do you think you are "true" christians?/quote]
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #57 on: January 09, 2006, 12:03 PM »

Was she not a christain?? Am alittle bit interested, what spirits was she talking about.

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[My lady ran away because I was was Catholic. I did not understand why, so there you go. But she talked about spirits every time and I never kept my mouth shut/quote]
otokx (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #58 on: January 09, 2006, 12:03 PM »

y_mi? am about to face the same problem. I think its because of the poverty in the land that a lot of pastors preach so much prosperity gospel in pentecostal churches. I have reason to believe that the girls in my church are after any guy that earns at least a 100k a month even when their parents combined monthly pay can't be much more than that if it gets there at all.

But the truth must be told; its either your going to forsake your beliefs and join him or he comes and join you which I doubt.  The divide between catholism and pentecostalism in Nigeria goes deep. A lot will be involved. Personally I have told myself, if the girls parents consent and she does not mind then its ok but even if she consents and the parents are not happy then i'll forget it.

Its very delicate and dicey.
thekrafter (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #59 on: January 09, 2006, 12:08 PM »

Otokx so you are finally settling down! Congratulations! As long as there's true love, that's all that really matters.
otokx (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #60 on: January 09, 2006, 12:23 PM »

what is settling down? do u know me? am just giving some probable scenarios that could occur at the earliest next year if not some time in the future.
chrisd (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #61 on: January 09, 2006, 12:37 PM »

She was pentecostal and I saw a lot of judgement there.
chrisd (m)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #62 on: January 09, 2006, 12:40 PM »

God, Kin, church members, pastor were always more important than spouse for her. So I had to leave. Will not be with a pentecostal or evangelical again.
lioness (f)
Re: Pentecostal/Catholic Marriages: Why the Disagreement?
« #63 on: January 09, 2006, 12:54 PM »

its so sad whats happening. And everyday pple find themselves in this situation.
Anyway, am involved with a catholic and am pentecostal. There are some differences though but we try not to let it bother us so much. My mum says she kool with me marrying a catholic but my dad hasnt said anything yet. He says his folks dont have problems but my church is raising alot of issue. So we decided to meet each other half way. we shall both just join the Charistmatic renewal Movement. [its a bit of pentecostal & catholic] Atleast that way, we both have a sense of belonging spiritually.

Even with all that, am still open to any surprises..........

I guess pple shd talk things over and not be so adamant on life.
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