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babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #128 on: November 20, 2006, 12:04 AM »

Everyone knows that the number one weapon of the enemy(Satan) is ignorance.
That is why the sharia countries ban evangelism,censor Christian materials on the internet and TV,blocking all sites to Christian teachings.
They attempt to keep the gospel out because they know it's power to transform and make a mockery of the fables concocted by Mohammed and his allah.

They know the power in the word is an eyeopener and they fear competition.
If you are a Muslim and reading this and would want to know more about Christ the savior email me and I'll point you to sites with audio bibles and answers to your questions.

If you ask Christ today to come into your life,He will do it.
You are accountable to him .
I speak of that which I have tasted and proven to be true.
God bless you.
gbade. x (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #129 on: November 20, 2006, 12:05 AM »

@ babyosisi:

lovely. That testimony is soul-lifting. *sighs*

@ olabowale,

*sigh* not again! Like i've said and told you before, u just can't use the Q'uran to explain the Bible! It's totally unfair considering the fact that this is a debate of sorts, and there are 2 parties involved.

olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #130 on: November 20, 2006, 12:44 AM »

@Babyosisi: You sure that millions of Jews have converted to Christianity? What time period are you talking about? Currently, you have maybe 30 Million people, worldwide, who will consider themselves to be of the children of Israel (Okay Jews, since 11 tribes are already absorbed the the tribe of Judah, less influencial than the tribe of Joseph. Never mind that statement!). 1/3 lives in Palestine (Okay, Israel), then about 1/4 lives in America, having the largest population in NYC. The rest are scatterd around the world. Now how many of this are christians? Give me a notable Jewish christian. Mr David Wolf of ABC-News corporation is a Muslim. In the history of Islam, from the time of Muhammad (AS), you find a good amount of Jew who became Muslim. Abdallah bin Salaam, was a notable Rabbi who converted and in the battle of Huud, some other who had converted died in the battle. Read about these noble companions (RA).

I personally know many Jews who are Muslims. I wonder if you can tell me what 'he' the holy spirit as comforter had shown you as per the saying of Jesus, what good as it served. Especially since you said that you it has been fulfilled. Where is the he and what have you learnt from his arrival in your life. Has it taught you what do do or say when you are in any situation,eg, retiring to bed at night, taking a nap, ready to eat,  at eating, putting on or taking off your cloth, shoes,etc., leaving your home or arriving at home, sneezing, yearning, using the bathroom, using the mirror, etc,etc. Please do not forget that Jesus said that 'he' will show you all things and will glorify him. Please explain. If you can give a desitation, then comforter has not come or full filled. Speaking in tongue as an explanation willnot do it. Obviously, speaking in tongue should mean speaking in another language. You probably speak a language that you are not familiar with. In this case what language is it and when you speak it, who provides the meaning.

If the Jews believe that the Messiah has been fulfilled as it is in their Book by Jesus, yet the enmasse refused to follow him, then they must be damn stupid. Obviously they do not believe it. Muhammad (AS) did not dispute the Massiahship of Jesus to the Children of Israel (Oh shocks, I need to the Jews). Rather Muhammad confirms it in Suratul Saffat and others. However he says also that the Christians should not go overboard in the matters of religion and speak what is true about God. So Muhammad completely disagrees and declares that Jesus is a Prophet sent to the Children of Israel, as their Massiah and that is that. Just because he was born of only mother, and performed mant miracles, that should not qualify him to be son of or God Himself. Muhammad also declares that Jesus was not strung on and did not die on the cross as being crucufied!

Now just because Muhammad came later and produced his master piece  does not make it inaccurate. You should know better to use this as a cogent method of argument.

By the way, what about them Christmas. I think that it is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Did his companions celebrated it, or did he commanded it and is the date  accurate as December 25! If this could be changed even though the celebration was not commanded, then I ask you, my dearest Babyosisi, how many things are changed and people agree to the change and do not question it. One will ask, again, how pure is this religion? At least the muslims use celestrial element like moon to know actual period to do things and a means to calculate months,etc. The sun is used to set timing for Salah and when to start and break fast, etc.

Aggressa (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #131 on: November 20, 2006, 01:28 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on November 20, 2006, 12:04 AM
Everyone knows that the number one weapon of the enemy(Satan) is ignorance.
That is why the sharia countries ban evangelism,censor Christian materials on the internet and TV,blocking all sites to Christian teachings. They attempt to keep the gospel out because they know it's power to transform and make a mockery of the fables concocted by Muhammad and his allah.
They know the power in the word is an eyeopener and they fear competition.
If you are a Muslim and reading this and would want to know more about Christ the savior email me and I'll point you to sites with audio bibles and answers to your questions. If you ask Christ today to come into your life,He will do it.
You are accountable to him.

@Babyosisi:
Great!! keep it coming, sister; may His mercies endure for ever. Let's continue to pray that God in his mercy will open the hearts of those who still do not know him. Let's continue posting the true word of God to back up our claims of His mercies and love. Let's continue to expose the works of deception in the world today that tends to keep people from understanding the gift of salvation. You said it correctly, though SOME jews are yet to accept Jesus as the Messiah, ALL Jews believe in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. And it is written that the whole NATION of ISRAEL will eventually accept Jesus as the Messiah "after the fullness of the Gentiles has come" (Isaiah 62, Roman 10,11). We know that the actual reason why Islam especially deny the Cross/Crucifixion of Jesus Christ is to keep people from believing in, and knowing of the free gift of SALVATION. Take away the Cross, then there is no Christ, Chrisitianity or gift of Salvation!!!. It is a deception from the pit of Hell handed over to the muhammed 'in a cave' (where else will he concort such a wicked lie and rubbish!!) to keep people in perpetual darkness. God in his mercy will open their hearts, take away the heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh to get understanding of the free gift of salvation from God the father through His Son Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, Amen. The Lord said we 'should be of good cheer, because he has overcome the world.' He said it, we believe it, the world WILL know it.

babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #132 on: November 20, 2006, 01:29 AM »

I give you a scripture Olabowole in the Torah glaring (as so many others) that speak of the death of the messiah.
A scripture its existence was even confirmed by the finding of the dead sea scrolls and you question me as to why other Jews don't believe it .
Have you read the Torah (as Muhammad asked you to) or has it also been corrupted?

Is it all that proclaim to be Christians that even believe the scriptures let alone Jews who you and I know most of them are not religious in any way,they are just Jews by birth,if they read and believed the Torah,they would see the evidence of the birth,death and ressurection of Christ foretold hundreds of years prior.
And using your same analysis,the Muslims who refuse to learn of the Torah and Injil as instructed by Muhammad are also damn stupid because if they did,there would be a confirmation of all things.


And for your info,celebrating and not celebrating Christmas is nothing.
It does not give or take away salvation.
Observance of times mean nothing in Christ so don't trip over that.

And to your silly question about the Spirit of God.
Here is my answer.

1Cr 1:18   For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
 


1Cr 1:19   For it is written:

 

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise;

the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”*

 
 
1Cr 1:20   Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
 
1Cr 1:21   For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
 
1Cr 1:22   Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom,
 
1Cr 1:23   but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,
 
1Cr 1:24   but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
 
1Cr 1:25   For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength.
 


1Cr 1:26   Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.
 
1Cr 1:27   But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.
 
 
 
Aggressa (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #133 on: November 20, 2006, 01:36 AM »

@Babyosisi;
Believe me, I am jumping on my chair Grin Grin. I can't wait for monday morning and this coming week. The 'word' has re-energised me!!!
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #134 on: November 20, 2006, 01:45 AM »

@ Havila,me too.
God is indeed good.
We had a testimony today in Church,confirmed by doctors,a man had 42 tumors disappeared from his lungs by the healing power of our God.
God is indeed good.
He is no respecter of persons and is still in the miracle business.
Be encouraged and keep looking unto him.
Let me end today with these scriptures.

1Pe 1:18   For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers,
 
1Pe 1:19   but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.
 
1Pe 1:20   He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.
 


 1Pe 1:21   Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.
 
1Pe 1:22   Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart.*


I love you brother,keep looking to him
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #135 on: November 20, 2006, 02:04 AM »

@Babyosisi: I will give you Sheikh Musa Cohen, in Brooklyn was a Rabanic Study and a military captain in the ADF of Israel, before his conversion into Islam.

The Torah is corrupted, too. For the fun of it, give me the verse in the Torah that confirms crucifixion.
gbade. x (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #136 on: November 20, 2006, 09:20 AM »

@ olabs,

lol, the Torah's corrupted too? The same Torah, your prophet asks y'all to read? Lmao, this is getting more interesting and confusing here

@babyosisi,

Praise the Good Lord for that testimony! Glory Be to Jesus! You know, talking about testimonies, a few weeks back in church on Thanksgiving, a man gave a testimony of how God saved him ritual killers who kidnapped him and some peops. According to him, when they were lined up to be selected for killing, when the ritualist/babalawo came to him, he hesitated and said in Yoruba, " eleyi o se lo o" , meaning literally, "this one can not be used"!!! Afterwards, the same babalawo came to ask him, who was he serving?!!! WHAT?!!! All for Jesus, stand up!! To cut it short, it was one the ritualist's cohorts, who eventually bailed the man out, after reminding the man, he had given him (the cohort) some money when he was in need in prison, years back!!!

Like Kanye West once said, "Jesus Walks!!!!"
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #137 on: November 20, 2006, 02:25 PM »

@ gbade.x: Never did Prophet Muhammad (AS) ask the muslims, during his time or generations that came later, including mine that is the current geration or any that will come later in the future to read the Torah or Injiil that was available from his time onward. If you know that verse in the Qur'an, please quote it for our mutual benefit. However, we do no that there are books given to Prophets before Muhammad. Musa received Taurah, Daud received Zhabur and Isa bin Mariam received Injiil. We were told these books by the time of Muhammad were deemed corrupted. You will from this statement realise that they must have been pure and uncorrupted at some time before the corruption started. In Islam, each book was pure during the time of the prophet that received the Book and upto the generation that came later, just before the start of the corruption began.

I am not intending to beat you down on this issue. But you need to have the understanding of the position of Islam. For example, in the early days of Madina, Umar (RA), read the Taurah and was excited about his finding that agreed with the position of Islam, which he already knew. So in this excitement state, he came to the congregation where the prophet and Abu Bakr and others were present. He naively stated his findings and the source. Prophet Muhammad did not respond and in fact wore an annoyance expression, which Abu Bakr noticed right away.

Abu Bakr called Umar to the fact that their leader Muhammad was unhappy about Umar's action. Umar did not hear him. Abu Bakr then told Umar that may Umar's parents lives be ransomed, which was an expressiion that gets the attention of the Arabs, before and during the beginning of Islam. Umar then paid attention to Abu Bakr who let him realised that the Prophet was noit happy with the Umar's usage of Taurah. Prophet Muhammad (AS), ordered that the adhan be called. People came to the Masjid right away. Muhammad (AS), mounted the mimba, where he addressed the community. In short, the address was very direct and to the point. He said that the truth he has been given which he has brought to them as quickly as it is been given, piece meal by piece meal, is so complete that infact, if Musa were to be alive at that time and hears that Muhammad , a prophet is in already preaching in Arabia, Musa will not have any choice  but to hurry up and follow Muhammad as even all the companions were doing at that time! I have many verses of the Qur'an and statements in hadith to support this. (In the Qur'an, you have a verse which talks about the covenant/oath that God the Almighty took from the Prophets in their soul state, where He said that if while they were individually on earth preaching and they hear about His Messenger (Muhammad), preaching and confirming what He(ALLAH) gives to that particular prophet, will the prophet aida nd support the Mission of that Messenger?. They all answered Yes. God then said that He took this oath as the agreement between He the Lord of the worlds and His servants and creations the Prophets (AS)).

Of course, during the lifetime of Muhammad, the messenger all the prophets had gone and what you have in the Qur'an which confirms the verse of the Bible that talks about the coming Comforter who will (he, male gender, in the same humanness like Jesus and other prophets before him, visible touchable, a known quantity in physical mass and spiritual capacity, having body and soul) come after Jesus leaves the eath, is in Suratul Saffat (Those who are set in arrays).

I will soon, open a thread to invite people to talk about this Comforter. I will enjoin every contributor to focus on the topic, even if you are for or against it. You can use any and all religious, political, etc source(s). But I will hope that we do not twist and distort the truth with clear disregard to reality.



babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #138 on: November 20, 2006, 07:21 PM »

Read this interesing page on the alleged corruption of the Bible.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Walid/corruption.html
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #139 on: November 20, 2006, 07:46 PM »

@Babyosisi: Read my entry, first and even the sites that i have directed you to in my past entries. When you do this,response to me with some information from them, then I will go to your website. Its a 2 way street. This is marriage in training; you can master it and no one dominates it, but you do your best at all time.
Aggressa (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #140 on: November 20, 2006, 07:58 PM »

@Babyosisi,
Brilliant article; it further supports what we said of the 'claim' of corruption yet no tangible evidence of textual corruption. And we know that for muhammed to reach out to jews and christians to support his new or another "monotheism with compromise" ideology, he needs to convince them against the bible and importantly the crucifixion. Since he failed because the quran or the ideology of Islam could not stand 'spiritual discernment', he then resorted to the spread of the ideology by 'triumphantism' i.e convert or be killed.
Now, since 'triumphantism' is no longer possible, the "corruption" mantra is being used to deny the crucifixion of Jesus christ by the Ustahs/Sheiks/Mullahs in the various masjids; simply to hide the knowledge of the free gift of salvation from muslims. This is why we need to shout more and loud and clear the doctrine mercy and grace of God through Jesus Christ, the propitiation for sin. In my last entry on Jehovah and allah, I posted one major source of misconception on christ. (Read it)
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #141 on: November 20, 2006, 08:44 PM »

I did read them olabowole you have any specific questions.
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #142 on: November 20, 2006, 09:14 PM »

@ Havila: Are you for real or this is comedy for you? The issue of corruption is staring at you in the Bible: Your says that the Pen of the scribes have entered and change things from its proper places. I do not need to direct you to the exact place in your book.You know it but may choose to ignore it. You need to prove the Bible itself wrong and then lowly people like me who are not christian. Tell the holy spirit to explain it.

Muhammad (AS), speaking to Jews and Christians about is Islam was to invite them into it.  It was not to compromise, because he did not compromise with anyone, neither the people of the books nor the Pagans. Ifact his follwoers (RA) who migrated to Ethiopia did not compromise in the face of potential capitulation! They told the King Al Nagash that Jesus was not God nor son of God, but was a honored prophet/Servant of the Almighty, born of virgin birth.

You need to read the history of the Alnagash ofEthiopia who later died on his way to meet the Prophet. Muhammad made what is known as Salatul Ghaib on him after his death. You will also know that Muhammad followed the law and commandment of his Lord; not partial in any way. I guess this goes to the Comforter clear quality. Muhammad did not make salatul Janazzah on his on Uncle, Abi talib who never became Muslim, even though they love each other so much!

Your claim that Muhammad (AS) resulted to convertion by force or be killed is untrue. Maybe you mistakenly took Muhammad's era for the Spanish Inquisition or the whole European Crusade. I guess the madness of "CRUSADE" is still going on in the mind and the actions of the leadership of the offshoot of 'ROME". If Muhammad have resulted into kiling asyou said, please give us the time period  in makka or madina. We find that when Makka was conquered, every inhabitant received complete and general anmesty, including the woman who ordered the killing of and eating raw the heart and liver of Hamza. In Madina, we realised that there was a constitution to live by. This constitution covered every citizen and did not discriminate against anyone, Muslims and others, alike. This is to show you that Constitution was not a new thing in Islam, but unfortunately, the Muslims are now the people doing against it.

If you have God, why toying with His creation. We have a statement in Islam: Why worshipping the creation when you can worship the Creator.

I ask again, which is First, God the Almighty or Jesus?
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #143 on: November 20, 2006, 09:24 PM »

@Babyosisi: If you read them,then you would have been able to approach the subject with cogent points. You did not completely read my advice to you, in that the second part encourages you to give me your finds. And please do not tell me that its the ol same oh, same oh. That will be a capout.

By the way what is the Cr book that you quoted so much from? Was that written by Jesus or a prophet before Jesus. Please do not tell me to take what happened after Jesus, specifically the 'Yabis" of Saul/Paul.

See, I can be funny too. It is not street, so it may be dry to you. I need to put more humff to it.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #144 on: November 20, 2006, 09:33 PM »

olabowole,let me show you the foolishness in your argument,how could the bible be corrupted and yet could not see fit to take out a verse about its own corruption?

Is it possible for you to prove the corruption of a text by its corrupted words yet you have no original uncorrupted text  to support your claim.
In order words isn't it common knowledge that the proof of a fake dollar is it's deviation from the  true dollar.

Is it possible to write a thesis on the 'circulating fake dollars' 500 years after the dollars were minted and call them fake dollars though the author had never seen nothing but the assumed fake dollars.
Then a blueprint of the supposed fake dollars are miraculously discovered proving its authenticity,the author rather than bow out in shame at their stupid claim,insist that somehow they are right and those blueprint were somehow doctored.

The above describes Islam perfectly.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #145 on: November 20, 2006, 09:46 PM »

cr is same as cor same as corinthians.
The Bible is 100% the word of God.
I see that St Paul,mighty man of God is a thorn in your flesh.Can't help ya.
He was greatly used to persecute the Church and in the same measure after his conversion,he was used to spread the word.We neither reverence nor worship him,he was a man like Peter,James and John
What is your question please?
olabowale (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #146 on: November 20, 2006, 11:02 PM »

@Babyosisi: I laugh after  reading your response above. You do not worship paul, yet he has more imput than Jesus on the New Testament and it was he that developed the Trium/Trinity doctrine. Yet you worship Jesus and not God since God and Jesus are not the same. Is it not written in the Bible that you must not worship God and marmor?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #147 on: November 20, 2006, 11:48 PM »

pardon me but you do sound like someone referred to as 'the accuser of the brethren' by the Bible.
belloti (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #148 on: November 21, 2006, 09:11 AM »

Babyosisi, i expect you to attack the issue, not the man.
Aggressa (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #149 on: November 21, 2006, 03:12 PM »

@All,
Well, I am as real as real can be. After objective illustrations have been produced about the changing of 'sentences and words' in the Quran; after the evaluation of the dead sea scrolls have confirmed the stupidity of the claims of error in the bible; now that we know muhammed is an illitrate who received inspiration in a cave with no witness, I wonder how he can read the 'Taurat' to claim errors are in it; continuing on engaging in discussion of 'errors' is irrelevant.
However, regardless of what you say about the bible, the theme and purpose of the "written" 'word of God' (i.e Bible) from Genesis to Revelation, is the "living" Word of God i.e. Jesus Christ and his offer of redemption to mankind respectively.
Focus on this with wisdom and be saved. In 1st Corinthians 2 vs 14, the Lord said to us through his apostle that: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #150 on: November 22, 2006, 12:15 AM »

Quote from: olabowale on November 20, 2006, 11:02 PM
@Babyosisi: I laugh after reading your response above. You do not worship paul, yet he has more imput than Jesus on the New Testament and it was he that developed the Trium/Trinity doctrine. Yet you worship Jesus and not God since God and Jesus are not the same. Is it not written in the Bible that you must not worship God and marmor?

bellotti and olabowole,the word trinity is not anywhere in the Bible but the concept  is.
Olabowole it may interest you to know that Jesus made the statement below way before paul came on the scene.
So next time you spew out what you read from Islamic websites about Christianity,you take time to find out if the Bible really says so.

Mat 28:18   Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
 
Mat 28:19   Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in* the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,  

Mat 28:20   and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
 

babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #151 on: November 22, 2006, 12:31 AM »

Quote from: olabowale on November 20, 2006, 11:02 PM
@Babyosisi: I laugh after reading your response above. You do not worship paul, yet he has more imput than Jesus on the New Testament and it was he that developed the Trium/Trinity doctrine. Yet you worship Jesus and not God since God and Jesus are not the same. Is it not written in the Bible that you must not worship God and marmor?

The Bible,the whole Bible was written by inspiration and the whole focus is on The Father,Son and Holy Spirit,the 3 ways the Almighty God chose to manifest himself.
The authors Paul and co never esteemed themselves,they were instruments in Gods hand not icons to be adored.

Read how Paul starts this letter to Titus and see the manner of man he was.

Tts 1:1   Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #152 on: November 22, 2006, 12:35 AM »

And see the beginning of his letter to the Roman Christians

Rom 1:1   Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called [to be] an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 
Rom 1:2   (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 
Rom 1:3   Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 
Rom 1:4   And declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: 
Rom 1:5   By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: 
Rom 1:6   Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: 
belloti (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #153 on: November 22, 2006, 03:15 PM »

Baby, your religious emphasis is so much on personality than on the real message. sometimes i feel christianity is only about acceptance of christ and trinity, everything else can go to blazes. thats where you missed the point.
davidylan (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #154 on: November 22, 2006, 03:57 PM »

Quote from: belloti on November 22, 2006, 03:15 PM
Baby, your religious emphasis is so much on personality than on the real message. sometimes i feel christianity is only about acceptance of christ and trinity, everything else can go to blazes. thats where you missed the point.

No sir! Christianity is more than "mere Christ and trinity"!!
What really is "trinity"? I cannot find it anywhere in my bible, it is simply a concoted tool used by unbelievers as excuse to crucify the bible. The christian faith teaches about God manifesting himself in three offices as the:
Father - God above us, the judge, lawgiver, school master, father to the fatherless and a husband to the widow
The Son - Saviour, redeemer and friend!
The Holy Spirit - An ever present eternal guide!


All the same God reaching out to His creation in different ways.

The christian faith is much more than only Christ and Trinity and "all goes to blazes". It encompasses all their is about the normal lifestyle of he who calls himself a christian. It is about salvation of the soul, loving our neighbours, honoring our parents, being faithful to God, man and our respective communities, being light bearers, the standards by which justice, godliness, and love is measured.


Aggressa (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #155 on: November 22, 2006, 04:16 PM »

Quote from: belloti on November 22, 2006, 03:15 PM
Baby, your religious emphasis is so much on personality than on the real message. sometimes I feel christianity is only about acceptance of christ and trinity, everything else can go to blazes. thats where you missed the point.

Belloti, Belloti,
This is very funny: when you finished typing this post above, did an 'alarm bell go off somewhere or not'? When you said "sometimes I FEEL Christianity is only about acceptance of Christ"; that is God speaking to you about the truth. But when you now said "that's were you (i.e Babyosisi) missed the point"; now that is Belloti using his own mind to discern a spiritual truth or rebellion against truth.
Christianity is not a system of doctrine but a rule of life in Jesus Christ!!, kapish? That is the foundation upon which "everthing else" will now be based. The "everything else" you mentioned are the products of your saving faith in Christ i.e genuine saving faith produces good workse.g few are listed above by Davidylan's last paragraph above. A good tree will always bear good fruits; and a bad tree bad fruits. If the "everything else" is not based on the teachings, life and purpose of Christ 'in the life of a believer', then it can actually go to hell indeed. How do you mean she missed 'the point' about the Lord that you only "know about" but you do not "KNOW" personally?
In all things, get understanding, my friend. I pray the words you've heard and read will become seeds of truth in your heart, to convince you of the truth, and germinate good fruits to the glory of God through Christ Jesus, Amen.
gbade. x (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #156 on: November 22, 2006, 06:54 PM »

And an Amen to that!
gbade. x (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #157 on: November 22, 2006, 06:54 PM »

And an Amen to that!
gbade. x (m)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #158 on: November 22, 2006, 06:55 PM »

And an Amen to that!
babyosisi (f)
Re: Bounties Of Jannat (paradise)
« #159 on: November 22, 2006, 09:18 PM »

and Amen to that.
It has to be settled at the 4th time lol.
Bellotti I was answering a question posed by Olabowole who said trinity was concocted by Paul , you even advised I answer rather than attack him and when I showed him the concept was of Christ,you call it my religious emphasis.
Na wa for you.
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