Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!

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Kevostica (m)
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #32 on: June 10, 2009, 08:39 AM »

Domini what you mean by the cause of the infection?
ziga
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #33 on: June 13, 2009, 04:16 PM »

Quote from: Kevostica on June 10, 2009, 08:39 AM
Domini what you mean by the cause of the infection?

Well the question's not for me but,

Cause of infection means the microorganism responsible for the disease.

Lots of microorganisms ( bacteria, viruses etc) can cause diseases. The truth is Staphylococcus is probably not the commonest cause of infections in humans like some people try to make us believe.

So, if you have an infection, the right thing to do is to see a real expert who will be able to tell you the cause of the infection you are talking about and if necessary, run appropraite laboratory test. That way it is more likely for the treatment to work.
Gangsta101 (m)
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #34 on: June 14, 2009, 04:54 PM »

If there's one thing the first poster is absolutely right about, it is that constructive criticism is the best way to go about disagreeing with him, and a lot of people have done this quite well.
I think it's time the myth(s) about staph were dispelled. The thing is the Staphylococci as a specie are really quite ubiquitous, that means they are just about everywhere, but most especially on d skin, and are quite useful in that their predominance makes it difficult for other organisms which may cause infection to grow. Making them skin commensals. The problem arises when the enter sites where they are not usually present, or when for what ever reason the number of a particularly virulent specie multiplies considerably. An example of the first scenario is following a slight injury to the skin, the organisms enter the dermis and cause an abscess (boil), paronychia (whitlow), e.t.c. The major thing to note is that most of the infections attributed to staph are not due to it at all. For example, staphylococcus is not a sexually transmitted infection, nor is it as frequently responsible for urinary, genital or respiratory tract infections as one is led to believe. Infact, staphylococcal soft tissue infections are characterised by extensive tissue destruction and damage, with intense fever, such that they are very much dreaded. So they cannot possibly be the ones to blame for most of the infections we claim in their names.
Sadly, poor laboratory techniques, and handling of specimen and specimen containers before, and after collection of samples, leading to the contamination of the samples by the more ubiquitous staphylococci, in larger amounts, which then tend to overwhelm the culture medium. Sadly, this is such a common problem in privately funded, or 2nd rate government labs, such that most doctors tend to dismiss such results. (imagine a stool sample with all the teeming enterobes coming out with a diagnosis of s. aureus?)
another reason why s. aureus is such a medical nightmare is because of antibiotic-resistant organisms. Most staph infections respond to the simple antibiotic - Ampiclox (actually the cloxacillin part), gentamicin, sulbactam, ciprofloxacin and the quinolones, augmentin, and the cephalosporins, to various degrees. But the abuse of these drugs, either by sub-optimal dosing, unwillingness to complete medications, or chronic usage of these drugs, the wrong practice of using very strong antibiotics for relatively minor infections, as well as such common practices like sterilising our bodies in the name of bathing by dumping antibiotic solutions in our bath water and the profane use of antibiotic soaps all lead to the killing off of weak organisms, but the selective preservation of the more hardy ones, which if they ever cause infections, will end up being difficult to treat. And leading to the development of THE SUPER BUG.
So yes staphylococci can cause a lot of infections, but not the ones a lot of traditional medicine practitioners claim they cause, and for God's sake, it is not a sexually transmissible infection.
Kevostica (m)
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #35 on: June 15, 2009, 12:32 PM »

Thank you so much for your contribution but why is that the bateria does not respond to the antibiotes  even  after those antibiotes are able to show +++ after lab test with the exception of oflaxacin. What is the cause of the over resistance? And what is the way out?
dominique (f)
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #36 on: June 15, 2009, 05:43 PM »

@Kevostica
what i meant by root cause is the particular strain of S. aureus that is infecting the individual.

Quote from: Kevostica on June 15, 2009, 12:32 PM
Thank you so much for your contribution but why is that the bateria does not respond to the antibiotes  even  after those antibiotes are able to show +++ after lab test with the exception of oflaxacin. What is the cause of the over resistance? And what is the way out?

the thing about certain bacteria is that their genes can mutate to varieties that can resist the antibiotics. maybe the in house doctors cam prescribe any antibiotic that can cure the diseases.
ziga
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #37 on: June 16, 2009, 02:51 AM »

Quote from: Kevostica on June 15, 2009, 12:32 PM
Thank you so much for your contribution but why is that the bateria does not respond to the antibiotes even after those antibiotes are able to show +++ after lab test with the exception of oflaxacin. What is the cause of the over resistance? And what is the way out?

These sensitivity tests are carried out outside the human body. So even though, the microorganism was sensitive to the antibiotic (outside the body) we can't tell what problems might not make the drug work when the drug is used in a human body.

For instance, in the patient, we can't tell how much of the drug is actually going to get into his blood system (the patient might have some oother problem of drug absorption).

Even if sufficient amounts of the drug gets into the system, some parts of the body receive more blood than others - That means if that part of the body is the site of the infection, the drug might seem not to be effective.

So, there are lots of reasons why it is usually emphasized in many medical schools that you treat the patient and not the lab results. but despite some of these drawbacks, laboratory tests are still very essential.
Gangsta101 (m)
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #38 on: June 17, 2009, 07:20 PM »

kevostika
i still maintain that the reasons for such so called treatment failure, is because one is treating the wrong organism in the first place.
To illustrate my point, i'll give u a scenario. A lady comes to the clinic complaining of lower abdominal pain, and vaginal discharge. She is sent for a swab test. Now the swab stick might have been opened before, or the person taking the swab does not use a speculum to reveal the cervix, or the swab inadvertently comes in contact with the skin, or the swab is not used within an hour of collection. All these cause staphylococci to come unto the swab stick, in higher numbers than the organism causing the infection, so when  u culture, u see staphylococci as the offending organism, and if u treat based on that, u r treating based no a false premise, so u may end up with treatment failure. I know a doctor who tears up any result he see with staph aureus on it.
But as everyone else has pointed out, treatment failure when the organism is really staph is usually as a result of drug resistant.
Macfonse
Re: Staphylococcus Aureus Has Devastating Effect!
« #39 on: August 20, 2009, 07:57 PM »

There is cure for staph. There are different types of Staph infection and it is not only sexual intercourse alone can one be infected with staph. Following this thread, it is possible to have lab result showing staph infection if the instrument used for the test has the infection on it. Staph breeds very well in any dirty environment and it can be transmitted through any form precisely through sexual intercourse, dirty habit and lab results. The Good news here is that, there is cure for staph, chlamadya, staph aureus and candida albicans. You can send me an email for treatment procedures here: president@signumfidei.org
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