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~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #992 on: November 03, 2009, 06:50 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:47 PM
If I ask these pro-gays to list their reasons for accepting homosexuality, most of them don't realise a bestial, incestor, necrophilic would also pass their test.  Undecided

Buhahahahaha. . . . . . .Don't hit below the belt.

Krayola would stick his wrinkled penis in the exhaust pipe of his car and say it's normal.
He is a law abiding citizen, an engineer, he has his head straight so it's perfectly normal for him to shag his Audi TT.
What a twit!!!
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #993 on: November 03, 2009, 06:50 PM »

Andrea Bocelli is sure trying all his best to regain his sight. Beethoven struggled with his deafness till his death. Oh please people. You just hate what is different from you. There are not reasons to hate on homosexuality except it is not what mummy taught you to be right.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #994 on: November 03, 2009, 06:51 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:46 PM
1. For the Greeks and The Romans it was very natural. It was the norm. Reproduction was just functional to their political ambitions.

because the Greeks and Romans accepted it as natural does not mean it is natural.

I repeat, there is nothing natural about us that does not exist in the animal world. No evidence has been produced to show there is an animal sect where a subsection is gay and has no interest in opposite sex when available.

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:46 PM
2. Homosexuality exists among other species. Should we also go about educating them about what is normal or not?

Bring your evidence forth.


Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:46 PM
3. It does. This is just the beginning.

When anyone can prove one race is unnatural, then they have a case.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #995 on: November 03, 2009, 06:55 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:50 PM
Andrea Bocelli is sure trying all his best to regain his sight. Beethoven struggled with his deafness till his death. Oh please people. You just hate what is different from you. There are not reasons to hate on homosexuality except it is not what mummy taught you to be right.

The reason for hating homosexuality is that it is disgusting.

It is disgusting to see a man prance around like a woman, cry like a woman, gesture like a woman, want to be banged like a woman, want to be caressed like a woman, have only feminine interests, dress like a woman. And then thinks it is normal and we should accept it.

Absolutely fuucking disgusting.
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #996 on: November 03, 2009, 06:56 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:55 PM
The reason for hating homosexuality is that it is disgusting.

It is disgusting to see a man prance around like a woman, cry like a woman, gesture like a woman, want to be banged like a woman, want to be caressed like a woman, have only feminine interests, dress like a woman. And then thinks it is normal and we should accept it.

Absolutely fuucking disgusting.

It repulses me to the core.
That is the only thing in this world that makes me wanna be a serial killer.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #997 on: November 03, 2009, 06:58 PM »

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 06:56 PM
It repulses me to the core.
That is the only thing in this world that makes me wanna be a serial killer.

Honestly, I just went to the toilet to spit after typing that.

Makes my skin crawl.
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #998 on: November 03, 2009, 06:59 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:55 PM
The reason for hating homosexuality is that it is disgusting.

It is disgusting to see a man prance around like a woman, cry like a woman, gesture like a woman, want to be banged like a woman, want to be caressed like a woman, have only feminine interests, dress like a woman. And then thinks it is normal and we should accept it.

Absolutely fuucking disgusting.

You have just proved me right. Your hatred for homosexuality is personal and so it should be. Don't go advocating for a legal ban or a social discrimination because of something you hate ON YOUR OWN.
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #999 on: November 03, 2009, 07:02 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:39 PM
Proof that they were born like that.

Do we really need to go down this road again? Do you guys ask for proof that someone is born straight or is it cuz it is natural to you, you feel there is no need to ask?  Undecided. Also it seems that your mind is made up anyways so no amount of evidence provided is going to change that.

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:39 PM

If it does not exist in nature, then the hypothesis is that it is a malfunction.

How come every other natural thing about humans exist in the animal world and can be proven with video evidence but when it comes to homosexuality, it becomes them say or it appears like they are kissing.  Grin

Lame arguments pro-gays have, make me laugh  Grin and makes me furious they are insulting my intelligence.  Angry
Of course it does exist in nature as other animals do practice homosexuality.

I think it is you Homophobes that are coming up with lame arguements i.e Homosexuality = Bestiality. How absurd Undecided

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 06:41 PM
Homosexuality = Sexual Deviance
Bestiality = Sexual Deviance.

Therefore, Homosexuality = Bestiality = Sexual Deviance.
Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:43 PM
Why not?

Both deviancies, init?

What if the bestial says he was born that way? No one is being harmed. It is love and the animal enjoys it.

If you accept homosexuality, who are you to deny the bestial?

I beg to differ. Homosexuality is NOT a sexual deviance. You guys should define the term 'Sexual Deviance' and tell how homosexuality fits under that Umbrella. As I said earlier, you homophobes will say anything and I mean absolutely anything to defend your stance.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1000 on: November 03, 2009, 07:03 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:59 PM
You have just proved me right. Your hatred for homosexuality is personal and so it should be. Don't go advocating for a legal ban or a social discrimination because of something you hate ON YOUR OWN.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Huh!! Stop trying to shaft me. You have proven nothing.

The disgust is side effects. My demand for ban is based on lack of naturality.

Stop trying it. Wanna play a fast one on me.
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1001 on: November 03, 2009, 07:06 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:59 PM
You have just proved me right. Your hatred for homosexuality is personal and so it should be. Don't go advocating for a legal ban or a social discrimination because of something you hate ON YOUR OWN.

Loads of people hate it.
I wish i could gather y'all faggots and gas y'all up like the Holocaust.
Y'all disgust me and if there's anything resembling HELL in the after life, i have no doubt y'all would rot in it.

@ Chic2chimp,

You are a twit!!!
Homosexuality is the number one sexual deviance.
It's repulsive and it's socially repugnant.
Deep Sight (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1002 on: November 03, 2009, 07:08 PM »

@ michelin89, its not just a personal thing, its a societal thing to the extent that if we were all gay, humanity would go extinct. Any act that holds such a potential once adopted universally is a macro social danger and should accordingly be discouraged under law
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1003 on: November 03, 2009, 07:09 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 06:50 PM
Andrea Bocelli is sure trying all his best to regain his sight. Beethoven struggled with his deafness till his death. Oh please people. You just hate what is different from you. There are not reasons to hate on homosexuality except it is not what mummy taught you to be right.
I couldn't have said it any better myself

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 06:56 PM
It repulses me to the core.
That is the only thing in this world that makes me wanna be a serial killer.
Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 06:58 PM
Honestly, I just went to the toilet to spit after typing that.

Makes my skin crawl.
Imagine this lot typing this piece of filth in this day & age? Undecided If these Guys aren't homophobic, I wonder who in the world is? Embarrassed Embarrassed Undecided
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1004 on: November 03, 2009, 07:10 PM »

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:02 PM
Do we really need to go down this road again? Do you guys ask for proof that someone is born straight or is it cuz it is natural to you, you feel there is no need to ask?  Undecided. Also it seems that your mind is made up anyways so no amount of evidence provided is going to change that.

If you ask me for proof of straight animals, I would show you instantly.

Yes, my mind is made up but since I am very liberal and open-minded, I am open to changing it once reasonable evidence is shown that homosexuality exists naturally in the animal world.

Under this criteria:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=279591.msg3990475#msg3990475

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:02 PM
Of course it does exist in nature as other animals do practice homosexuality.

Then show us. Google video and youtube.

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:02 PM
I think it is you Homophobes that are coming up with lame arguements i.e Homosexuality = Bestiality. How absurd Undecided

Most of your criteria of accepting homosexuality also seems to approve of bestiality.

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:02 PM
I beg to differ. Homosexuality is NOT a sexual deviance. You guys should define the term 'Sexual Deviance' and tell how homosexuality fits under that Umbrella. As I said earlier, you homophobes will say anything and I mean absolutely anything to defend your stance.

Deviant: a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm.

Homosexuals = Deviants
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1005 on: November 03, 2009, 07:12 PM »

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:09 PM
Imagine this lot typing this piece of filth in this day & age? Undecided If these Guys aren't homophobic, I wonder who in the world is? Embarrassed Embarrassed Undecided

I am homophobic, sue me!!!
bawomolo (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1006 on: November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM »

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But for those that are like the bonobos, that just tells they are highly sexually charged animals, not homosexual animals.

this is a funny statement.  Did you just say highly sexually charged animals have a tendency to be homosexuals? does it applies to humans as well.

you seem to be digging a hole here.  


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Yes, my mind is made up but since I am very liberal and open-minded, I am open to changing it once reasonable evidence is shown that homosexuality exists naturally in the animal world.

nucca please.    you be babanla social conservative  Grin


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No to gay terrorism in Africa.

No to gay assimilation into mainstream in Africa.

The arguments used just irritate me as holes are picked in seconds, as it is so weak.

open minded people don't see gays as terrorist.   them be al qaeda?  

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Deviant: a person or thing that deviates or departs markedly from the accepted norm.

Homosexuals = Deviants

accepted norms for who.  If i married my 2nd cousin in India, no one would care.  That's obviously not the case in naija.    So is there really a standard template for what's the "norm".     
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1007 on: November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM »

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:09 PM
Imagine this lot typing this piece of filth in this day & age? Undecided If these Guys aren't homophobic, I wonder who in the world is? Embarrassed Embarrassed Undecided

What you don't realise is that in this day and age, the western people's (that have brainwashed you) society is in moral implosion.

So I would gladly take you a few years back to a good day and age.

No matter the mantra you might have been fed that change is good, not all change is for the better.

And definitely accepting faggots and placing helpless kids in their midst and calling it a form of family unit in the "modern era" is definitely retardation and retrogression.
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1008 on: November 03, 2009, 07:16 PM »

Quote from: Deep Sight on November 03, 2009, 07:08 PM
@ michelin89, its not just a personal thing, its a societal thing to the extent that if we were all gay, humanity would go extinct. Any act that holds such a potential once adopted universally is a macro social danger and should accordingly be discouraged under law

Ahahahhah! If we were all blind, this world would be worse than having a extinct human species. This try of yours to make it look like some sort of contagious disease is ridiculous.

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 07:03 PM
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Huh!! Stop trying to shaft me. You have proven nothing.

The disgust is side effects. My demand for ban is based on lack of naturality.

Stop trying it. Wanna play a fast one on me.

Am I not part of Nature myself? Does that mean I am being innatural by saying there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 07:06 PM
Loads of people hate it.
I wish i could gather y'all faggots and gas y'all up like the Holocaust.
Y'all disgust me and if there's anything resembling HELL in the after life, i have no doubt y'all would rot in it.

Loads of people hate a lot of things. Should we eliminate everything hated by a majority?
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1009 on: November 03, 2009, 07:19 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 07:16 PM
Loads of people hate a lot of things. Should we eliminate everything hated by a majority?

Yes. . . . .especially when they endanger humanity.
The spread of HIV woulda been kept to the barest minimum WITHOUT you homosexuals.
bawomolo (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1010 on: November 03, 2009, 07:21 PM »

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Cause my family isn't trapped in the dark ages. Its not a secret. . . It never was. .  she never hid it.  

My mum called me crying the day she found out, like she did all my other siblings, but we just talked to her about it and she got over it eventually. In fact the last time my mum was in Canada she stayed over at my sister and her girlfriend's place, and she was just fine with it.

your mum deserves a noble prize.   yawa for don in alhaji sauron's family.

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@ michelin89, its not just a personal thing, its a societal thing to the extent that if we were all gay, humanity would go extinct. Any act that holds such a potential once adopted universally is a macro social danger and should accordingly be discouraged under law

this would be true if homosexuality was that prevalent in society.  What's more common is actually bisexuality which was seen in ancient Greece and more (them experimental folks like amber rose).    the number of homosexuality is hardly more than 10% of the human population.   Heck their numbers could be as a form of control for a burgeoning human population.  

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The spread of HIV woulda been kept to the barest minimum WITHOUT you homosexuals.

yeah homosexuals are the one spreading hiv in the Congo and Swaziland.  oh the horror.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1011 on: November 03, 2009, 07:23 PM »

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM
this is a funny statement.  Did you just say highly sexually charged animals have a tendency to be homosexuals? does it applies to humans as well.

you seem to be digging a hole here.  

Me, digging a hole?  Grin

Men, I build platforms with the strongest bricks.  Cool

I didn't say higly sexually charged animals have a tendency to be homosexuals.

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM
nucca please.    you be babanla social conservative  Grin

I am liberal and open-minded with a filter.

Someone doesn't have to let all trash in to prove you are open-minded.

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM
open minded people don't see gays as terrorist.   them be al qaeda?  

When you have gay people demanding freedom but yet hound and try and defame anyone on mainstream media that does not approve of them to the point people hide their views, they hound organisations to be gay friendly otehrwise they would campaign against their trade and only positive affirmation of gays is tolerated on British media, then you have terrorism.

God forbid that crap in the great nation of Nigeria. Great nation, great people.  Grin

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM
accepted norms for who.  If i married my 2nd cousin in India, no one would care.  That's obviously not the case in naija.    So is there really a standard template for what's the "norm".    

I was actually reviewing that. Maybe it is best to describe gays as Sexual Perverts.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1012 on: November 03, 2009, 07:25 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 07:16 PM
Am I not part of Nature myself? Does that mean I am being innatural by saying there is nothing wrong with homosexuality?


You lost me somewhere with that argument.
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1013 on: November 03, 2009, 07:26 PM »

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 07:06 PM
@ Chic2chimp,

You are a twit!!!
Homosexuality is the number one sexual deviance.
It's repulsive and it's socially repugnant.
I'll rather be a twit than a Homophobe, that's for sure.

I can also see that you are stuck in the dark ages where everything & anything you don't agree with becomes repulsive. As for me sha, I am totally against all forms of discrimination.
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1014 on: November 03, 2009, 07:26 PM »

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:21 PM
your mum deserves a noble prize.   yawa for don in alhaji sauron's family.

Of course.
I will beat such kid into submission.
Homosexual under me roof? No way!!!
I don't mind hiring first class hookers to shag such kid to compliance.


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yeah homosexuals are the one spreading hiv in the Congo and Swaziland.  oh the horror.

Yes!!! Faggots are the ones spreading it in Africa.
It's not coincidence that the country with the highest number of faggots in Africa leads with the highest number of people living with HIV.
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1015 on: November 03, 2009, 07:30 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 07:25 PM
You lost me somewhere with that argument.

I am just trying to understand on what basis you have concluded that homosexuality is not natural. Just like you haven't I got the right to consider it one of the varieties of nature?

Just like you are being an advocate of nature, I am also one so I don't see why you must claim your facts are right while mine are wrong.
bawomolo (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1016 on: November 03, 2009, 07:30 PM »

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I didn't say higly sexually charged animals have a tendency to be homosexuals.

then why do bonobos have bisexual tendencies? what does being highly sexually charged have to do with it.



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When you have gay people demanding freedom but yet hound and try and defame anyone on mainstream media that does not approve of them to the point people hide their views, they hound organisations to be gay friendly otehrwise they would campaign against their trade and only positive affirmation of gays is tolerated on British media, then you have terrorism.

the thing is they are hounding those who deny them their freedom.   You can disagree with their lifestyle but why deny them their freedom or beat them to submission like sauron the Nigerian Taliban?


Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 07:26 PM
Of course.
I will beat such kid into submission.
Homosexual under me roof? No way!!!
I don't mind hiring first class hookers to shag such kid to compliance.


lmao see tough talk.   That won't change your kid.  He/she is only gonna repress their true feelings.

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It's not coincidence that the country with the highest number of faggots in Africa leads with the highest number of people living with HIV.

no data to back this up
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1017 on: November 03, 2009, 07:31 PM »

Quote from: chic2pimp on November 03, 2009, 07:26 PM
I'll rather be a twit than a Homophobe, that's for sure.

I can also see that you are stuck in the dark ages where everything & anything you don't agree with becomes repulsive. As for me sha, I am totally against all forms of discrimination.


I am with you.

I am against all forms of discrimination.

I don't see non-acceptance of homosexuality as discriminition, that is just one of the dysphemism gay-propagandists use to suppress views, I see it as a good moral-stance.
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1018 on: November 03, 2009, 07:33 PM »

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 07:31 PM
I am with you.

I am against all forms of discrimination.

I don't see non-acceptance of homosexuality as discriminition, that is just one of the dysphemism gay-propagandists use to suppress views, I see it as a good moral-stance.

What should we use a scale for morality? The 10000s of religions or the 1000s of philosophy spread worldwide?
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1019 on: November 03, 2009, 07:34 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 07:30 PM
I am just trying to understand on what basis you have concluded that homosexuality is not natural. Just like you haven't I got the right to consider it one of the varieties of nature?

Just like you are being an advocate of nature, I am also one so I don't see why you must claim your facts are right while mine are wrong.

I repeat, there is nothing that we do that is natural that does not exist in exactly the same form in some animal world.

Homosexuality is not natural as it would not pass these criterium.
Sagamite (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1020 on: November 03, 2009, 07:35 PM »

Quote from: michelin89 on November 03, 2009, 07:33 PM
What should we use a scale for morality? The 10000s of religions or the 1000s of philosophy spread worldwide?

In this case, naturality.
~Sauron~
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1021 on: November 03, 2009, 07:36 PM »

Quote from: bawomolo on November 03, 2009, 07:30 PM
lmao see tough talk.   That won't change your kid.  He/she is only gonna repress their true feelings.

It will change him.
There shall not be any form of homosexuality under ma roof.

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no data to back this up

Data and Africa are 2 parallel lines.
michelin89 (f)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1022 on: November 03, 2009, 07:38 PM »

Do you know this is a fallacy? Naturality can't be quantified. How do you judge based on quality?

Sorry but your scale is rejected since it is not scientific.
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Could It Really Be That A Person Can Be Born Gay?
« #1023 on: November 03, 2009, 07:40 PM »

Quote from: ~Sauron~ on November 03, 2009, 07:12 PM
I am homophobic, sue me!!!
Sue You ke? Undecided My only hope is that you change for the better.

Quote from: Sagamite on November 03, 2009, 07:15 PM
What you don't realise is that in this day and age, the western people's (that have brainwashed you) society is in moral implosion.

So I would gladly take you a few years back to a good day and age.

No matter the mantra you might have been fed that change is good, not all change is for the better.

And definitely accepting faggots and placing helpless kids in their midst and calling it a form of family unit in the "modern era" is definitely retardation and retrogression.
Which western people? Undecided Is it same western society that y'all flock to gain a better standard of living? Undecided Keep deceiving ya self u hia or better still why didn't you just stay back in nigeria where homosexuality is still seen as something of a taboo.

While you at it(taking me back to the good age), why don't  we also go back to the days when Blacks and other ethnic
minorities were discriminated against

As far as I am concerned this particular change is for the better.
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