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kambo (m)
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a web designer can't hold a candle up to a core developers who's
works on higher levels of complexity , than slapping html with graphics and uploading it
up to some server somewhere for viewing,
but try telling that to the guy who's going to design ur website for u.
the job (site design) - a day's job.
the price/cost - a years wage, ( on the conservative side. using higher paid civil servant salaries )
so i gat wondering:
who earns more , the script kiddies or the application developers(in naija)
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smartsoft (m)
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from experience man, i would say web designer earn more than the core developers, a man i know very well design a website for N300k. in a week he earn himself N600k because he get that jobs 2wice a week thats what i he told me but what baffles me is that the website he does cannot be compare with prefessional designers out there what i mean is that he design website like someone who started designing website for the first time . see you can earn as 1million naira in 2weeks or a month if you really know your way out.
Can you beat that and is client feel on top of the world
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alexis (m)
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It all depends - I know flash designers that earn thousands of dollars and I know programmers that make even more, so it all depends.
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candylips (m)
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yes it depends
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richness (m)
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nigeria government portal cost 40 million naira so it shows how much a web designer can earn. but i believe if application developer can really market their product, they can earn more on the long run
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alexis (m)
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Nigerian government portal is run by a web framework and it is application developers that built it, not web designers. Besides, both web designers and developers work hand in hand. FYI - That 40 million naira didn't go into straight into the designers or developers pocket, beleive you me, some big guys there had their own part, a big part for that matter. Let me give you an example, the Public Procurement Board of Ghana www.ppbghana.org cost over $100,000 to develop, in my opinion, it's a crappy site. It went down 3 days after launch because it used a MS-Access database that couldn't handle more than 20 concurrent users. All I am saying is that, the big guys that award these contracts, take huge sums from the government, pocket over 80% and pay the developers something small. NB: www.ppbghana.org was hacked a few days later |
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my2cents (m)
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kambo, kambo: on this forum: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-27972.0.html#msg688570 , you refer to the web designer/developer as "code monkeys", here you refer to them as "script kiddies". Can you at least hv the balls to b consistent?  I would like to see your research when it comes to the "developed countries" where this view is taken. Granted, I am not in naija, I will stand up for my brothers/sisters worldwide  To add to what I have said at the link abv, I will say it all depends on how good your game (no, I am not referring to toastin girls  ) is. Same applies to an A student and a D student interviewing for a job. The latter could sweet talk himself into a multi-million dollar contract while the former tries to wow/bore his potential employers with his knowledge and lingo. Granted we may b "code monkeys" and "script kiddies", we are highly sought after. If not, how can you explain the fact that the web just registered its 100millionth website ( http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-29472.0.html)? I will rest my fingers for now. As always, my 2 cents |
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kambo (m)
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@my2cents
how many nigerian website u pull ur to stare at , hence linger longer at it,
isnt easthetic major factor in web design, ur a web designer , u tell me?
yet with all the teeming hordes of acclaimed guru's in the field(talking naija here)
i can still tell a third world country site on the net , because it looks mispercieved,
like something a kindergaten kid did to kill boredom,
if the naija expressions on the web celebrate overprice mediocrity,
i wondering what happening to the guys who want to ply the harder craft,
core software development.
aint calling nobody a rat,[script kiddy, code monkey etc] but u gat giv mediocrity
a name.
heck! doctors call the fake archetypes quacks, does that mean every doctor is a quack?
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my2cents (m)
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heck! doctors call the fake archetypes quacks, does that mean every doctor is a quack? Kambo, with the above quote, I am happy to see that you have backtracked on your generalization. Ur statement reminds me of that person long time ago (sorry I forget the name, but if you google it, I am sure you will find out  ) who came up with a problem of induction that states thus, "how many white swans must one observe before one comes to the conclusion that all swans are white?" Be careful about generalization. Your opening remarks up top smelled of it hence my defense of my brothers-in-arms, as horrible as some (note, I said "some" and not all  ) sites may seem. No shakes my man. Just as there are bad web designers/developers, there are also (dare I say it? ) bad app developers - those who write procedural code with a OO language, those who don't unit test, those who don't use appropriate error-handling, to mention but a few |
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