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spikedcylinder
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Whenever i move a poster's topic, the least i do is copy the link of that thread and
post it with a short message to the poster. . .So they will not start complaining.
I personally do not feel it is ok to just move some's post like that without informing
them especially if the post does not violate nairaland rules - written / unwritten.
So every time you want to move a thread that has been posted in the wrong section, you inform the OP before or after? And this is knowing fully well that the OP can choose to be sensible enough to check his/her previous posts to find his/her moved thread?
Sure. |
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mukina2 (f)
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Dont mind sam, he knew what to do , he just felt like making a complaint  |
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debosky (m)
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There are a gazillion threads posted in the wrong sections - I cannot and will not make a reference on each thread I move because it is impractical. When deemed necessary, it will be done, but that is at the discretion of the moderator involved. I personally do not feel it is ok to just move some's post like that without informing
them especially if the post does not violate nairaland rules - written / unwritten.
Dude if the thread is in the wrong section it HAS violated rules that is why it must be moved. I don't know what Sam was getting at, but he gave a wrong impression by stating he couldn't even find his posts when the opposite was the case. Again, before making accusations, check properly. |
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*dhtml
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I am not saying anything new. But it happened to me too of recent, when my topic was deleted like 5 days ago by seun, i saw the notification in my box, till now i still dont know what i did wrong, and it was in webmasters too (where i never post rubbish).
But having said all that, i guess i should leave hia now, before we blow this thread already.
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baby-mi (f)
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I am not saying anything new. But it happened to me too of recent, when my topic was deleted like 5 days ago by seun, i saw the notification in my box, till now i still dont know what i did wrong, and it was in webmasters too (where i never post rubbish).
But having said all that, i guess i should leave hia now, before we blow this thread already.
TAKE IT EASY BOBO |
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debosky (m)
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Again, the issues you are raising are unrelated to this feedback thread - you know how to get in touch with Seun if you have a problem with him. Please limit comments to romance related moderation.
Thank you
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spikedcylinder
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Deleting threads is different from moving/modifying threads.
Its like one is talking to an angelic fucking brick wall. 
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*dhtml
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2-to-1, no problemo. maybe i am not speaking singlish. Bye to this thread then. No offense to anyone please.
Besides, i guess i am just wasting my posts anyway, talking of brick walls. Lemme go and sleep jor.
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michelin89 (f)
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@ dhtml weren't you once a mod?  You should know how these things work. |
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Sam Milla (m)
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So every time you want to move a thread that has been posted in the wrong section, you inform the OP before or after? And this is knowing fully well that the OP can choose to be sensible enough to check his/her previous posts to find his/her moved thread?
Sure.
Well, The thread moved in this case was atleast 80% related to Romance Section, So i was surprised when i couldnt find it. You must understand that not everybody here knows how to go to their profiles to check their posts. That was why i raised it anyway. No 2. is that it is proper to either leave a link behind (Maybe not enabled by seun) Or pm the poster with the link to the post. It doesnt take more than 20 seconds (Btw , what else are mods for? if you cant pm a link to a member) @debosky, You said something about breaking the rules , REALLY? The PM system, why do you think it was enabled for mods? There are topics that can be posted and fit in to two or more sections here, I guess they are classified as breaking the rules as well, |
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*dhtml
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@ dhtml weren't you once a mod? You should know how these things work. Resigned as dhtml and came back to duty as *dhtml (long story). But it seems i dont understand some of these mods in romance section. *I spend more time in this romance section than the 2 boards i moderate added together, so i am concerned abt what is going down here*
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michelin89 (f)
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Resigned as dhtml and came back to duty as *dhtml (long story). But it seems i dont understand some of these mods in romance section.
*I spend more time in this romance section than the 2 boards i moderate added together, so i am concerned abt what is going down here*
Each mod has their way of moderating. When I am on a board that isn't mine, i don't question other mods' authorities. I am a member like any other so whatever they decide, I do. I may protest but I won't go to them to tell them what they should do. Your authority ends where someone else's begins! |
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*dhtml
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Michelin, i do not question their authorities, and by the way. I dont care whether i am moderator or not to say my mind or even if i am banned sef.
what lead to my resignation was similar to this. I just wish to be clear on some things as a NL - viz - my rights.
But as long as i am a moderator, i will do my duties. Finish. And still retain my freedom like any other nairalander else i quit. Gbam.
Meanwhile, some things are universal to moderating, such as PM for instance - unless the issue is not important.
Meanwhile, moderators too have rules. And do not just do everything by their discretion - or so i was told by seun during my training.
*And, how can a small boy like me even kueshun power-tripping mods sef?*
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Gabry (f)
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Guys, but in another way, I think both parties are wrong.
If MOD's could move a particular thread, I dont see why they cannot send a PM to the member on the thread being move.
On the other hand, if the member could not find his/her thread, the member should ask the MOD's on where did they move the thread too instead of making as big issue out of it cause am sure the MOD's will tell them where they move their threads to.
But I still stick with Sammy's solution where the MOD's should inform the members cause than it will safe time. When a member ask a MOD a question, the member would have to wait till the MOD is online to answer that which can be a waste of time and its frustrating.
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debosky (m)
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Well, The thread moved in this case was atleast 80% related to Romance Section,
So i was surprised when i couldnt find it.
You must understand that not everybody here knows how to go to their profiles to check their posts.
That was why i raised it anyway. That is a fair comment, with your example, people should be able to do that now. No 2. is that it is proper to either leave a link behind (Maybe not enabled by seun)
Or pm the poster with the link to the post.
It doesnt take more than 20 seconds (Btw , what else are mods for? if you cant pm a link to a member) It is IMPRACTICAL. Supposing the thread had 30 different posters and needed to be moved? Will I now PM 30 MEMBERS to inform them that I moved ONE thread (out of the 30 or so threads I move daily)?? When relevant, I can CHOOSE to PM a member to inform about a moved thread - it is not compulsory. I guess the hundreds of spam thread posters should also be informed when their threads are binned.0 @debosky,
You said something about breaking the rules , REALLY?
The PM system, why do you think it was enabled for mods? For communication with members, not for babying people and explaining each and every action. There are topics that can be posted and fit in to two or more sections here,
I guess they are classified as breaking the rules as well,
No they are not, but administrative decisions need to be taken for running the forum and every member will not be informed in every case. |
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mukina2 (f)
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*And, how can a small boy like me even kueshun power-tripping mods sef?*
when i said seant was a nuisance i didn't realise she had infected you, what kind of silly statement is this? You can never please people, and they can never take the blame for things they did. Anything that happens its power tripping mods. |
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Sam Milla (m)
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For communication with members, not for babying people and explaining each and every action. Debosky? Isnt Sending a PM to the auhor of a thread a form of communication? What kind of communication do you mean? Meanwhile stop complicating things here by saying you cant PM 30 People. The only person whom i believe should recieve the PM is the thread creator. Simply because it was him/her who wanted opinions from people. @Mukina and Dhtml, Please let it go guyz, |
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mukina2 (f)
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where? No one's fighting |
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michelin89 (f)
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@ Sam
When you were a mod, how many threads did you move in a day and how many authors did you notified?
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Sam Milla (m)
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@ Sam
When you were a mod, how many threads did you move in a day and how many authors did you notified?
Good Question, When i was a mod on the jokes section, The PM system was not enabled for moderators. The Jokes section always have a thread where everybody interacts. Therefore, i use those threads to tell the authors that i moved their posts. On Webmasters section, i moved only two topics for the entire time i worked there. I sent PMs To the two guys who started the threads, so you must understand why i believe it is proper to tell a thread author that his/her thread was moved. As a matter of fact, The simple Machines Community, the biggest Community sitting on Smf, sends me a pm when they move my posts. Sometimes they even ask me whether i want them to move it to a related section where it will get more attention. That was why i said that some sections are related here and DEBOSKY said no, I could give him one hundred topics here that can easily fit in in different sections, |
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debosky (m)
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Debosky?
Isnt Sending a PM to the auhor of a thread a form of communication?
What kind of communication do you mean? Communication as and when deemed appropriate by the mod. Meanwhile stop complicating things here by saying you cant PM 30 People. Why won't I complicate it? Sometimes you think up singular examples to justify your case without looking at wider implications. If I move 30 threads, won't I need to PM 30 people? Do you know the amount of traffic on the MAIN Romance board alone daily?? The only person whom i believe should recieve the PM is the thread creator.
Simply because it was him/her who wanted opinions from people. Thank you for demonstrating this is your personal belief. There is no 'rule' that gives the OP more rights over the other posters, except for determining the subject. Beyond that, if one is notified all have to be. Given the impracticality of that and the large number of threads, it will be done only when viewed as necessary. That is my interpretation, and in the absence of a formal requirement by the admin, it will stand. |
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michelin89 (f)
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Good Question,
When i was a mod on the jokes section, The PM system was not enabled for moderators.
The Jokes section always have a thread where everybody interacts.
Therefore, i use those threads to tell the authors that i moved their posts.
On Webmasters section, i moved only two topics for the entire time i worked there.
I sent PMs To the two guys who started the threads,
so you must understand why i believe it is proper to tell a thread author that his/her thread was moved.
As a matter of fact, The simple Machines Community, the biggest Community sitting on Smf, sends me a pm when they move my posts.
Sometimes they even ask me whether i want them to move it to a related section where it will get more attention.
That was why i said that some sections are related here and DEBOSKY said no,
I could give him one hundred topics here that can easily fit in in different sections,
Jokes and Webmasters?  Those sections combined together don't have the same amount of posts on Romance. Sorry. Your policy may be successful on small boards like Jokes and Webmasters where afterall, there are always the same people who know each other and can communicate easily. But on Romance you can't apply the same method. There are new members everyday and 100s of topics every hour. A moderator can't put his life aside to PM everybody. Besides since the rules on how to post threads are clearly written and even the name of the board suggests the kind of topic that fits in there, don't you think members have some responsibilities when they post on the wrong section? |
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Sam Milla (m)
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Communication as and when deemed appropriate by the mod. - What kind of Communication is more appropriate than for a mod to tell a member that his/her thread was moved? Or do you do something hideous with the pm system? Maybe you dont understand that it is the rights of the members to get information through PM. You believe it is a priviledge given to you to contact whoever you wish. Thank you for demonstrating this is your personal belief. There is no 'rule' that gives the OP more rights over the other posters, except for determining the subject. Beyond that, if one is notified all have to be. Given the impracticality of that and the large number of threads, it will be done only as viewed necessary. Why do you always run to hide behind the rules even when you dont need to mr debosky? Someone here who asks "HOW DO I TELL MY HUSBAND THAT I AM CHEATING ON HIM"Apparently Needs the thread more than people who contributed opinions. Do you get it? So i believe if anything happen to the thread, She should be the person to inform and not all the posters. Stop this "Playing by the books" attitude and do what is good and neccessary. all i asked for here was that some kind of information should be given to authors when their posts got moved to another section. That is not too much to ask from a mod. is it? |
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mukina2 (f)
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- What kind of Communication is more appropriate than for a mod to tell a member that his/her thread was moved?
Or do you do something hideous with the pm system?
Maybe you dont understand that it is the rights of the members to get information through PM.
You believe it is a priviledge given to you to contact whoever you wish.
Why do you always run to hide behind the rules even when you dont need to mr debosky?
Someone here who asks
"HOW DO I TELL MY HUSBAND THAT I AM CHEATING ON HIM"
Apparently Needs the thread more than people who contributed opinions. Do you get it?
So i believe if anything happen to the thread, She should be the person to inform and not all the posters.
Stop this "Playing by the books" attitude and do what is good and neccessary.
all i asked for here was that some kind of information should be given to authors when their posts got moved to another section. That is not too much to ask from a mod. is it?
Sam why are you dragging this issue? You claimed you checked through your posts and you could not find the thread. http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-286036.32.html#msg4105945I checked through your posts and found the thread. funnily at the time it was your last fourth or fifth post. So i wonder why you didnt see it. Debo does everything through the rules of the forum. Assuming someone cannot find their topic. that's why we have options like Updated replies, all you or anyone needs to do is check through that you will find your thread. |
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Sam Milla (m)
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Jokes and Webmasters? Those sections combined together don't have the same amount of posts on Romance. Sorry. Your policy may be successful on small boards like Jokes and Webmasters where afterall, there are always the same people who know each other and can communicate easily. But on Romance you can't apply the same method. There are new members everyday and 100s of topics every hour. A moderator can't put his life aside to PM everybody. Besides since the rules on how to post threads are clearly written and even the name of the board suggests the kind of topic that fits in there, don't you think members have some responsibilities when they post on the wrong section? Yea, you are right. Those sections are small when compared to Romance section but i believe the Romance section has 3 mods plus Mukina whom i believe works there sometimes as well (maybe seun too). lol. this Pm thing, we are making it sound like its a very difficult thing to do, It takes only 20 seconds to pm someone, About the members responsibilities, Good, maybe its very easy for you to navigate through the forum now because you have been here for a very long time. Some people here dont know how to go to their profiles let alone see the rules. That doesnt mean we should understand them since this forum is based in a third world country where computer is still seen as a mysterious thing. |
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MrCrackles (m)
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Moderators
Can i say something? 
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Sam Milla (m)
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@mukina, we are past the post issues now, Thanks for the link,
we are now debating whether a pm should be sent to post authors informing them about the movements of their threads,
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mukina2 (f)
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Moderators
Can i say something? yes! @mukina, we are past the post issues now, Thanks for the link,
we are now debating whether a pm should be sent to post authors informing them about the movements of their threads,
Mitchellin and Debo already explained that to you i guess. Stop dragging the issue. |
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mukina2 (f)
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what's that supposed to mean? |
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debosky (m)
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- What kind of Communication is more appropriate than for a mod to tell a member that his/her thread was moved? I have answered you - when deemed appropriate it will be done. Your opinion has been noted. Or do you do something hideous with the pm system?
Maybe you dont understand that it is the rights of the members to get information through PM.
You believe it is a priviledge given to you to contact whoever you wish. Kindly show me where this 'right' is enshrined or stated. Why do you always run to hide behind the rules even when you dont need to mr debosky? Because I don't act on emotions or just any opinion - nairaland is governed by clear rules and I abide by them. Someone here who asks
"HOW DO I TELL MY HUSBAND THAT I AM CHEATING ON HIM"
Apparently Needs the thread more than people who contributed opinions. Do you get it?
So i believe if anything happen to the thread, She should be the person to inform and not all the posters. Again is that applicable to ALL cases? When all posters are interested, for example a poll - what do we do then? PM the 100 replies? Stop this "Playing by the books" attitude and do what is good and neccessary. What would be good is if you didn't concoct lies to prove your point. Your posts were not deleted, neither was your thread yet you claimed so. Given you knew how to find your posts, bringing that comment here had a sinister motive, which is best known to you. all i asked for here was that some kind of information should be given to authors when their posts got moved to another section. That is not too much to ask from a mod. is it? It is not a requirement for the mods to carry out such communication at all times. Your opinion/request has been noted - discretion will be applied in treating these issues. I have nothing more to add to that. On that note this particular matter is considered closed - other comments/issues regarding feedback are welcomed. |
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spikedcylinder
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LOL!
Good luck to MOD that wants to PM the authors of every agbepo and arindin thread.
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