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saddik (m)
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Abeg, i need advice. I studied MSSQL 2000 since, although i have not worked in an environment that it is implemented, I was busy with GIS. Now i want to dust of my SQL books, what shopuld i concetrate on, im lost in the market, as in what is more lucrative in database, is it making chain commands i.e triggers, or creating the database sets. HELP 
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slashcuff (m)
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@shadoghale What Do u want to know, i'm a programmer also do DBA's With Oracle, SQL. I can be of help anytime. You can always get my e-mail address here.
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cabali (m)
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Now you're talking because if it is for a job, in nigeria, forget it!
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usalawu (m)
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hi y'all I am currently undergoing training in Oracle. To shadoghale please the dvd tutorial u want to get is it for Oracle 10g or 9i? If it is for 10g please how do I get it?
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cabali (m)
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which ever one it is, go for it! since we don't have real life scenarios to work with in this country, we need as much materials with different angles to get us into the 'feel'
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funso77
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Hi evryone, i just want to use this medium to reach out to evryone who has materials or resources to enhance my training as well certification and getting a good job as an Oracle Database Administrator/Developer to please reach me at ayoosuntokun@yahoo.com i should conclude my training by January 2007 and immediately sit for my certification thereafter. There's a lot to be shared on this forum and i think so far things are getting clearer on my chosen field of interest and technology to say. Thanx to all members of this forum. nuthing comes easy evrywhere most especially when you find yourself in a very competitive labour mkt like Nigeria. Master holders, professional certificate holders are being offered peanuts and so on, but the prayer is after all the candle-lights and sleep-less nights of worries and studying, we get employed in a good organization that offers skills equivalent to the level of your experience and expertise. i respect the views of evryone because in truth and ideas, there's much to be learnt.
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kg (f)
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I am an experienced DBA OVER 8 YEARS with ORACLE done it all now i am into more the data architecture modelling; certified ocp all i can say is work experience is a whole lot more than just passing a certification!
Yes o, I agree with you work experience is a whole lot more than just passing a certification!
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cabali (m)
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so where do u advice that they go for experience huh? considering the state of the nation where IT is concerned!
give possible solutions don't just concor and let it hang
>hiss<
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kitaun (m)
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@Cabali, why hiss?
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cabali (m)
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I really can't say 
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kitaun (m)
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Na wah for u o!  You don bring your attitude come here 
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cabali (m)
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No its not like that o. its just that am passionate for database administration and sometimes i get emotional on it 
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olawa20 (m)
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I've just had my oracle 10g certification and also looking for a job to get experience.
In Nigeria, it can hardly happen the other way round except you find yourself in organisations that make use of DB Tools and u're fortunate to be allowed near the database at all.
I think the best thing to do is to be armed with a lot of skills especially in the area of program development and try to start doing stuffs on your own. That is what i'm trying to do now.
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Bossman (m)
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Hands on experience is very critical in the IT field. Be it application development, DB admin, or network admin. Unfortunately, it seems like it's almost impossible to get the hands on experience in Nigeria. So, as most others have posted, the route to go is to practice as much as possible by doing personal projects. Sometimes another way to get the experience is to look for volunteer projects.
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cabali (m)
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I agree, Totally!!!
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segebee (m)
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hush u haters!
been some time because i've been loaded wt assignments @ school no one says u can learn only @ niit, im just saying u get better recognition and u are not asked questions like others. however, its in nigeria, certificates count.
at niit, u won't even look for a job; of course that's what u pay for!
@ seun, mysql is crap;can use it on your system though no serious organisation will use it i got class, gotta run ; but lets talk oracle and not careers like how to use pl/sql to program
im out!
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cabali (m)
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AND STAY OUT!!!!
do u want me to give u a short list of those who finished from NITT and still looking for their bearings even with their certificates? have u asked why your NIIT faculties(like they are called) decide to teach at NITT for a salary of about N40K a month if they can get the jobs u were deceived to believe u will get when u get out of NIIT.
I can see u are young in this! better plan how u will cope with the employment market when u get out and don't bring the crapy NIIT hope back on this thread!!
And u say mysql is crap??? You need to be tied to the stakes and shot; really! u don't know a thing about DB except from the cheap assignments u get to submit to your faculties that really don't know that much as well!
whats your name, segebee, don't come back here!!!
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paulnewman (m)
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I think you are right by teaming up of all the DBA's and achieve something. am an OCP and haven't gotten a job.I need a serious person to work with in developing databases for business people. thanks you can send me your phone number to give u a call.
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my2cents (m)
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DBAs, you can register your presence at www.webmastersofafrica.com . You never know who might be there looking for someone to do the job 
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cabali (m)
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Now thijs is a post most needed by this thread, - my2cents, thats cool!! 
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babasin (m)
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Hi Guys,
From reading your posts, I get a feeling that DB/SQL jobs are very scarce in Naija!
So what are all those banks doing?, those blue-chips companies? are they runing on excel? are they not innovative with new products? is the economy not growing? Soludo/OBJ says its growing,
what about SME? is really so hopeless? I would have imagine as developing society; there should be huge jobs for Apps and Prod DBs.
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cabali (m)
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well there aint!!!
hard to believe?
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babasin (m)
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Cabali hard to believe? This is shocking!! INEC alone should have generated at least 5 SQL/DB jobs in each local council for coming election! What is really the state of IT in Nigeria? is IT jobs in naija out-sourced or what?
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my2cents (m)
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Thanks cabali, Just playing my part 
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cabali (m)
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IT jobs in nigeria are not out sourced; they are irrelevant as far as the government is concern. your nation's intelligence cannot grow past that of your leaders!
How many of of our leaders are educated? You can't tell Obasanjo to invest in IT, he wont see the need let alone understand the importance. so just get used to it!
we are still trying to be a developing nation, we have to wait for an educated president to hope for that!!!
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babasin (m)
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Cabali,
Now I got the picture!!
So you guys studing IT in Nigeria are in for a long wait; Yar'adua set to become President!
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cabali (m)
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We are not in for a long wait!!!
We are goin to leave the country!!!
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babasin (m)
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Cabali,
At the moment, IT Job market is good in Europe, Australia, Singapore, and money is good too. But you will to have work-permit.
Those same jobs could be outsourced to Nigeria; but the reputation/infra problems make it damn difficult to convince the CIOs.
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adewaleafolabi (m)
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nigeria is getting too backwards 4me and i don't see improvement. imagine majority of nigerians have to rely on cdma and gprs for internet. computer science students still learning basic instead of things like php and the rest. and what they don't understand is the fastest way to improve your economy and standard of living is through embracing and investing in technology
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cabali (m)
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The old clowns don't know that!! I don't mean to be harsh, the government has done a lot with the economy; no doubt but it is just that they think it is too early to spend so much on technology so we still here!!!
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adewaleafolabi (m)
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well what we need is fresh blood not old people. And thats looks quite impossible so the other option is private investors. And thats also almost looking impossible too
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cabali (m)
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Now u have the true colour of the situation right there!!! 
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