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larger_20 (m)
MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« on: November 09, 2005, 04:40 AM »


Nigerian MASSOB leader to be charged treason by the FG

Do you think [Chief Ralph Uwazurike] deserves it? I personally don't think so since he is following a peaceful means to his objective.  What do you think?  And do you think Biafra State / country is achievable?

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article02/091105
pintos (m)
Re: Nigerian Massob leader to be charged treason by the FG
« #1 on: November 09, 2005, 06:16 AM »

I feel so sad over the recent handling of Uwazurike of MASSOB and other similar cases of "Treason" in Nigeria.

While not supporting treasonable acts in their true sense or the possible disassociation of the entity called Nigeria, I will be quick to advise the Government and their agents to observe and uphold human rights when handling issues they may term criminally  grave against the state , but with political undertones.

A careful study of the situation and agitations by many groups in Nigeria must have arisen out of frustration of oppressed minorities and the desire to control their own political and cultural destiny.  This principle the UN recognizes and indeed was the main motivating factor for the independence of most Colonial states, catch phrased as ''self determination''.

It is indeed so sad to observe that the full weight of the Law in Nigerian is brought to bear on individuals, depending on which side of the great divide they belong. It is a situation of different strokes for different folks. The world is hailing  and clapping for our  ''transparency, security and  control of governance'' while before us, but having a good laugh behind us for our ''home grown democracy and misrule of law''.

Please you may request for my full paper on this issue by mail.
Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason [Biafra, Uwazurike]
« #2 on: November 09, 2005, 06:55 AM »

MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason
Chief Ralph Uwazurike, Chibuike Nwosu, Benedict Alakwem, Chimankpa Okorocha, Kelechi Ubabuike, Ambrose Anyaso and Augustine Ihuoma.

Charges Files Against the Biafra Separatists
  • That you Ralph Uwazurike 'm' 45 years old, Chibuike Nwosu 'm' 23 years old, Benedict Alakwem 'm' 45 years old, Chimankpa Okorocha 'm' 19 years old, Kelechi Ubabuike 'm' 27 years old, Ambrose Anyaso 'm' 46 years old and Augustine Ihuoma 'm', all of MASSOB Headquarters, Okwe Onu - Imo Local Government Area of Imo State on diverse dates (between January 2004 and October 2005) at Owerri, Imo State and other places in Nigeria within the jurisdiction of the Federal High Court with intent to levy war, overawe and overthrow the legitimate government of Nigeria did conspire among yourselves to commit felony to wit: treason against President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and you hereby committed an offence contrary to Section 37 (2) of the Criminal Code Act, Chapter 77, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 1990 and punishable under Section 37 of the Criminal Code Act.
  • That you Ralph Uwazurike 'm' 45 years old, Chibuike Nwosu 'm' 23 years old, Benedict Alakwem 'm' 45 years old, Chimankpa Okorocha 'm' 19 years old, Kelechi Ubabuike 'm' 27 years old, Ambrose Anyaso 'm' 46 years old and Augustine Ihuoma 'm', all of MASSOB Headquarters, Okwe Onu - Imo Local Government Area of Imo State on diverse dates (between January 2004 and October 2005) at Owerri, Imo State and other places in Nigeria within the jurisdiction of the Federal High Court did commit treason against the Federal Republic of Nigeria by belonging to a militant group called MASSOB ARMY which is undergoing training with intent to levy war in order to intimidate and overawe the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and you hereby committed an offence contrary to Section 37(2) of the Criminal Code Act, Chapter 77, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria 1990 and punishable under Section 37 of the Criminal Code Act.

This is an interesting story.  We have discussed the Biafra issue before:
Seun (m)
NIGERIA: Biafran separatist leader charged with treason
« #3 on: November 09, 2005, 09:22 AM »

ABUJA, 8 Nov 2005 (IRIN) - Prosecutors in Nigeria charged a separatist leader with treason on Thursday, alleging that his fight for an independent homeland for one of the country’s biggest ethnic groups included forming a tribal army to “overhaul” the government.

Ralph Uwazurike, who founded the southeastern secessionist Movement for the Actualisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB), was brought before a federal court in the capital, Abuja, where four counts of treason and conspiracy were read to him and six other MASSOB members.

“The accused persons have been calling for secession from the Federal Republic of Nigeria,” the court document said. The seven committed treason “by belonging to a militant group called MASSOB army, which is undergoing training with the intent to levy war against, intimidate and overhaul [President Olusegun Obasanjo’s government]”, the charge said.

All pleaded not guilty and were ordered returned to custody by presiding judge Binta Murtala-Nyako, who adjourned the case until 6 December.

The activists face the death penalty if convicted of treason.

Uwazurike appeared unfazed by the charges, waving to a small group of supporters as he left the courtroom and crying, “Up Biafra! We will not negotiate.”

In the courtroom Uwazurike alleged he had been chained to the floor and tortured by the state security police who arrested him two weeks ago. He asked to be transferred to prison custody along with his colleagues, but the judge declined the request.

Uwazurike had been declared wanted in July over the alleged circulation of currency purported to be of the independent Republic of Biafra.

Uwazurike claims that successive governments have oppressed and discriminated against Nigeria's Igbos, the dominant ethnic group in the southeast.

MASSOB wants to recreate the short-lived Republic of Biafra over which a bloody civil war was fought in Nigeria from 1967 to 1970, with more than one million people dying mostly from starvation.

Uwazurike’s campaigns have struck a chord among thousands of jobless Igbo youths who were born after the war but who have joined MASSOB's ranks.

In the southeastern city of Onitsha, a MASSOB stronghold, police on Monday clashed with thousands of demonstrators who took to the streets to protest Uwazurike’s arrest.

During the melee the private residence of Nigeria’s first president, Nnamdi Azikiwe, who died in 1996, was set ablaze.

Police charged that MASSOB activists chased outnumbered policemen into the residential compound and during the clash set the house on fire. MASSOB in turn accused government agents of starting the fire to discredit the secessionist movement in the eyes of ethnic Igbos, who respect Azikiwe but also form MASSOB’s support base.

Human rights groups charge that dozens of pro-Biafran activists have been killed over the last six years for campaigning on behalf of their cause, with hundreds in detention after being arrested at marches and rallies organised by MASSOB.

http://www.irinnews.org/report.asp?ReportID=49991
Oracle (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #4 on: November 10, 2005, 12:02 AM »

This is kind of wierd
It sounds funny.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #5 on: November 12, 2005, 12:44 AM »

serves him right!  Smiley
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #6 on: November 12, 2005, 10:04 AM »

Is it wrong to say your mind?
Is it wrong to declare that you don't want to be part of a political system or structure?
Is it wrong to condemn colonialism, plunder and hate?

Its interesting to note the contradiction and double speak that characterize some of these cases and issues.

Uwazurike, MASSOB members and indeed all other groups and peoples seeking secession should not be treated this way.
They have a right to state and canvass their opinion.

Why is the Nigerian Nation afraid? Is murder (which is what the Nigerian Government has been carrying out) the way to stop an insurrection? This place has existed, and is sustained by oppression.
We all came here by coercion, first by the Europeans and then by the military.
The incarceration of Uwazurike and others will only raise up more militants.

White supremacists in South Africa and America can attest to this.

What is wrong in conducting a referendum in these regions to see if we all really want want to be part of this concoction called Nigeria.
Allow people to be what they want to be

omon (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #7 on: November 12, 2005, 11:42 AM »

Nigeria is one, period! You can take your message somewhere else.  The reason for all these upheavals can be linked to poverty and fustration. We are alo very impatient set of people. There are many countries in more dire situations than we are, yet we think that Nigeria is worst and every other place in the world is heaven.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #8 on: November 12, 2005, 03:17 PM »

Quote from: omon on November 12, 2005, 11:42 AM
Nigeria is one, period! You can take your message somewhere else.

A great way to authenticate the fact that the union is forced.
Why must we not discuss the basis for this union? What is the fear? Our peoples are too hardworking , progressive minded and God-fearing to be subjected to the pangs that they have to face daily.
Why must the infrastructure in Onitsha be left to rot while roads in Daura are repaired by the federal Government?
Why must Imo indigenes be denied admission in federal universities while jigawa is begged to fill up spaces that they do not have enough people for.
Why is there normadic education for the cattle rearers while there is nothing for the igbo boys that sell from age five?
Why? Why?...
When men are afraid of discussing the basis for an issue, they are invariably agreeing, somewhat, that the issue should not exist. The world has changed.
Allow people to be what they want to be...


Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #9 on: November 12, 2005, 03:31 PM »

A responsible Government must cater for the security of all its people, and sometimes this means dealing with people who are trying to provoke general unrest.  What Mr. Uwazurike and the other MASSOB people were campaigning for cannot succeed without bloodshed and instability in the country.

Do you really think we will let them go with our oil, which amounts to 95% of our foreign exchange earnings?  So the rest of us should live in poverty and start dying of hunger, right?  No way!

So I agree with the arrest, but I do not think they deserve the maximum penalty of the treason law (execution).  If it was possible, an indefinite prison term with the guarantee that they will be released when they are ready to publicly renounce their roles in the Biafra agitation would be fair and sufficient.  One should not kill a fly with a hammer.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #10 on: November 12, 2005, 05:44 PM »

i don't what some of you people are saying. "allow the people what they want to be" - just like saying "allow criminals what they want to be"  Roll Eyes

if your action are against the common good of the nation or your trying to destroy the nation i don't think that should be allowed.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #11 on: November 14, 2005, 09:30 AM »

Quote from: Seun on November 12, 2005, 03:31 PM

Do you really think we will let them go with our oil, which amounts to 95% of our foreign exchange earnings? So the rest of us should live in poverty and start dying of hunger, right? No way!
... whose oil?Huh?

Its evident the union is not about the people that are in these areas. Their welfare or well being are certainly not on the cards here.

It is about what can be obtained from them, their land, rivers, sea and environment even at their own peril. They can die of hunger, poverty and deprivation as far as others feed fat.
And when the oil is dried up... they will be thrown away as husks that have been sucked dry.
What can be more despicable, heartless and shameful.
The human beings created in God's own image (and born of Ibo blood) certainly, do not matter in this union

Security???... what security? for who? Maybe for the oppressors but certainly not for the people that MASSOB and other groups represents. Little wonder arson and the kidnap of a Governor has not been charged to court or the perpetrators brought to book.
It doesn't matter that their young men have spread throughout the whole continent looking for their daily bread even at the risk of their lives. For these, white colonialists were saints. Even in their wickedness, they would not have done half of what has been meted out on blacks by their kith/kin in Nigeria.(The latest Amnesty International is a good reference)
[b]Let the people be what they want to be... NO to an un-natural union... man is a free agent[/b

The motives are clear ... to subdue, trample and if possble exterminate the folks. Then you'll be happy... very happy that you were not left to poverty and hunger.

Fortunately or unfortunately, Nigeria's salvation has always come through the Igbos.... Just try removing the ones in the current Government and sum  the acheivements of all the other groups put together... and make a simple comparison.

What oppressors do not understand is that their freedom, growth and progress is tied to that of their captives. Europeans and the Catholic Church can confrim that.

Nigeria as presently constituted is a shame to the black race and will continue to be unless it cleanses itself from within. Of all its problems... the greatest is tribalism. I understand from these statements that you subscribe to it.
]
Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #12 on: November 14, 2005, 10:10 AM »

Hanlon's Razor is an informal law that states, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence". 

It is not as if Yorubas and Hausas have held meetings on how to subjugate the Niger Deltans, exploit their oil and not pay them back.  What has happened is that the people in power (Government and oil companies) have not been motivated enough to make the necessary changes.  Because they are getting away with doing nothing. 

In a democratic setting, any group that wants a change must first of all acquire popular support.  You will not get popular support by being confrontational and saying, "this is what I want or else ..."  No, you have to call your brothers the Yorubas and Hausas and let them know, "if we get what we want, this is what you will gain".  When they have the support of the majority that voted in the Obasanjo administration, they will get what they want.

Whose oil is the oil in Niger Delta?  Let me ask you another question:  If gold is discovered in a land that is in my town but still owned by the government, whose gold is it?  [Answer: the Government]  It is left to the Government to spend it in a way that favors the people that voted it into power.  If I want some gold, you have to win the voters' support to move the government's hand. 

Violence has failed to solve similar problems in other countries, so why do the youths of Niger Delta think that it will solve their problem?
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #13 on: November 14, 2005, 01:34 PM »

The issue here had been the arrest and treatment of Uwazurike and co. for 'treason' and not the Niger Delta. Though related in some ways, the issues are clearly different.

On the Niger Delta
1. The Niger Delta is the only group that stopped the emergence of a Biafran republic. Nigeria would not have been able to stop it. We know our differences and will sort it out at the appropriate time.
2. If the Yorubas and the Hausas did not meet and agree on the current events, then whose agenda is being played out now? Who else could have set it up?
3. Which is correct? Black South Africans waited for electoral majority in order to remove apartheid or Apartheid was abolished before blacks could have electoral majority.
4. Fundamental Change does not come through the ballot box.
5. Insisting on what you want, even if it requires violence, has given southern Sudan an independent region that has the opportunity of deciding whether it wants to be part of Sudan in the near future. Why can't it happen in Nigeria? The apologetic and discussion-for-whole-generation-syndrome, is what has landed us where we are now. My Children will not live under this oppression.
6. When will Nigeria realize that if every body is allowed to grow at its own pace and maximize its potentials, there is enough room at the top for all peoples? Despite the number of stars, the sky is not yet full, yet all of them are shining.
7. Which majority voted in the current government?  Rigged majority?Huh Even in the president's state which may be your own state. ... the supreme court said so.

On the issue at hand, that is the Ibos, their marginalization and the arrest of MASSOB leader.

I have taken some time to read all your post and views on this and similar issues throughout this forum and have made a simple summary of my answers:
1. There is no good thing in Nigeria for the Igbos. Left alone, they would rule the world in many spheres of life. Despite losing 1million souls and being 'exterminated' from the civil service, politics, infrastructure etc... they have survived against all odds. The
2.  If the other parts of Nigeria cannot survive without the Igbos, it means there is something wrong with them or the system under which they operate. This must be the only reason why they are required in Nigeria against their wish. If you think they really want to be here, try a referendum
3. Some have dared to say that their population will be too small to sustain them...Another trash... what is  Canada's population compared to their land mass? what is the population Luxembourg and over 90 other countries? Do they come begging us for food or are we not indebted to some of them.
4. The system that brought laws like the Land use act, Onshore offshore oil dichotomy, 1999 constitution, educationally advantage/disadvantages states etc is an immoral system. This system is focused on raping (instead of protecting) its 'vulnerable' units.

I therefore submit that there is no single good thing in Nigeria for the Igbos.  They must be allowed to become what they want.
Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #14 on: November 14, 2005, 01:50 PM »

Ok, my focus was wrong but my explanation still stands.  Let all Nigerians (Yorubas, Igbos, Hausas) vote on whether or not the Ibos should be allowed to leave Nigeria.  If you cannot get Hausas and Yorubas to support Biafra, then it cannot stand.  Once you can convince me as a Yoruba man on what I will gain by Ibo secession, then you will have my vote.  Remember, the world is at a stage of integration and not disintegration - look at Europe!

However, the tactics used by MASSOB (such as promoting their own currency, organizing rallies, saying that Biafra already exists) can threaten security.  We have seen what misinformed crowds can do.  I believe containment of their threat is justified, but not the harsh penalties of the Treason charge.

As far as I am concerned President Obasanjo was voted in by the majority.  I don't even remember who contested against him!
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #15 on: November 14, 2005, 05:01 PM »

They have declared their stand... they want to leave.
Just one incontrovertible gain for remaining part of Nigeria will do....Candidly, there is none...

You can only imagine the mentallity of slavery that still exists -
You have an 'employee' who has just resigned and you tell him you won't allow him to resign because there is nothing for you to gain....Hmmmm...funny! isn't it... Did you buy him??

You have a flat mate and he said he wants to move out and have his own apartment and you say that he can't ...why?...because there is nothing for you to gain if he has his own apartment...Is he your slave?

Your brother has been in your familyhome for the past forty five years without anything to show for it except retrogression. To compound matters, there is no future in sight for his children. He then decides to move out and grow up... You put his Children in Jail and Kill the less fortunate ones in the name of Politics.  And then you still ask for what you have to gain by his having to move out and seek greener pastures.  ...Isn't it the height of hollow thinking?? Yet you call him your brother....'brother' indeed!!!

What more can I say.... Sound reasoning, good conscience and all that is good in the human mind and head...does agree that the Igbos have to, and I dare say, must be allowed to be what they want to be.

No Nigerian has the Moral Authority to say that they cannot. After the WW2 the allied forces (led by America) contributed money and rebuilt Germany and Japan. What has Nigeria done for the Igbos?.. except the 20 pounds given for every house, blame game and all that...

And I'll like to point out that I am not Igbo.... I wonder what it would have been like if I was one.... ...I Love their resilience

Think about it.

**** I dare to ask what Yorubas/Hausas (in government) have really done for Nigeria....... except to steal whatever we have laboured to build.

demmy (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #16 on: November 14, 2005, 06:33 PM »

@owo your comparisons doesn't hold water. An employee, a flatmate and a brother in a familyhome(sic) are not the same thing as a complex entity like Nigeria. Surely the Igbos or any tribe for that matter have right to "leave" Nigeria but you'll agree not through warlords like Ojukwu or Nwazurike. The latter in particular have no right whatsoever to determine what the Igbos want. If Igbos really want to "leave" then they can do it democratically. Their representatives in the National Assembly can take that step if they dare. Haven said that however I don't believe Nwazurike has done anything treasonable. It is his inalienable right to express himself as he see fit including holding Biafra friendly views without the rest of us feeling uneasy  as long as he isn't formenting violence.   

You also asked what has Nigeria done for Igbos. I ask what has Nigeria done for Igala, Urhobos, or for Nupe, Hausa-fulani, Yoruba or any other of the 250 tribes in Nigeria. And must Nigeria "do" especially for Igbos?  Now don't tell me the Igbos are marginalized! Or that they are not free and are living in bondage! Its ridiculous. Ethnicizing Nigeria's problem doesn't help to solve it only distract.   
Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #17 on: November 16, 2005, 09:57 PM »

Wise words, demmy.  I was recently complaining on another thread how our politicians are devoid of ideologies beyond this overflogged issue of ethnicity.
ondogi
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #18 on: November 18, 2005, 01:02 AM »

Whao this is a multi-faceted problem that should be looked at from different angles.

1. Bloody hell if the ibo's decide to leave let them <snip>

But the reality is that no tribe or region can leave without armed conflict, believe me its the same all over the world even america fought when some state decided to secede. If any of you seccesion proponents were to be in aso rock, you will resist any attempt by any group to secede.

2. I think Massob, Opc & egbesu boys and all their leaders are just a bunch of coward chalatans. why didn't they form these groups under the military when we needed them most? now that we have this boju boju democracy they are coming out saying all sorts of trash. i believe they all should be dealt with and severely at that, bunch of foolish people especially that agbero called ganiyu adams.

At this point in time, i do not want to elaborate on the nigerian problem or digress from the topic.

My submission is that the government should as a matter of urgency deal ruthlessly with these camouflage demagogues. Enough is enough of all this lawlessness.
drbigdaddyg (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #19 on: November 18, 2005, 03:18 PM »

I want to request that you tell me what is wrong with Uwazuruike's presentation of his choice? What made it unconstitutional? By going as far as presenting this issue before UN? By using non-violence strategy? Tell me, or would you have expected violence from him? He is not a terrorist and therefore can never be violent. Understood?

As long as Igbo is concerned, we cannot be compared with the minor tribes you've mentioned because we have only three major tribes in Nigeria, others being sub- whatever. We demand acknowledgment being the major contributors to the development in Nigeria; If we are not reciprocated by being given fair treatment, then, no one will expect happiness among us.

I want to assure you that Uwazuruike's alligation is only a function or a display of Nigerian  hatred on Igbo people because other ethnicities (one like OPC) who even use arms for their freedom have not been arrested for one day.  Since we are hated, why not allow us stay on our own?

Uwazuruike should better be released <snip>.
omon (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #20 on: November 18, 2005, 08:03 PM »

rubbish talk
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #21 on: November 19, 2005, 07:50 AM »

Quote from: omon on November 18, 2005, 08:03 PM
rubbish talk
Rubbish indeed...
The talk supporting freedom is rubbish.... while that entrenching oppresion is good talk (??)
The talk calling for the the sanctity of human dignity/life is rubbish while dehumanisation is good talk.
If this posture (opposing the need to change the terms and conditions for remaining in this God-forsaken political entity) is not archaic, backward and sub-human, then nothing is.
drbigdaddyg (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #22 on: November 19, 2005, 09:12 AM »

Is very clear their ambition- using indirect slavery on us. Impossible!!!

Let them know they made mistake on whatever reason they must have tagged as being a focal point on executing our innocent men (Uwazuruike and co), because we are very brillant set of people who have studied the law and therefore cannot be fooled with whatever charges they feel they can come up with.

I  ask again- what is wrong with one expressing his fundamental human right?  Must one be violent (carrying arms) before he can be given what is due for him?
omon (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #23 on: November 19, 2005, 11:49 AM »

Must you threaten another life to entrench your fundamental human rights? That is where the talk is rubbish!
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #24 on: November 19, 2005, 12:44 PM »

Whose life is being threatened?

I'm forced to ask whether 'you are a stranger in Jerusalem', that you do not know the things that are happening. Are you in Nigeria at all? If not, are you really touching base with events at home?

The people that are being threatened are the oppressed, economically-emasculated and infrastructurally neglected sections/regions and areas of the country.
They have boldly and clearly declared that they will accomplish their aims without arms... so why are they being charged for treason. For trying to undermine the constitution.... they say.

But who wrote the constitution ... a group of military men without any... i mean any input from you, me, or anybody. Yet the first line declares...'We the people'. If this is not the treason... then I wonder what is.

Now men are being detained and tried for demanding that they do not want to be governed under a constitution that they had nothing to do with its compilation. And because they are Igbo... then they must be killed.

The facts of this case are very simple for any genuinely interested mind to understand...
1. There is a contraption called Nigeria with a population in excess of 100 million which is serving the interest of a few people.
2. These people are bent on having their way even at the peril of men's life and future like they have been doing for the past 45 years. At best they have insisted on under-developing us.
3. Any attempt at stating the obvious ( that is the interest that they serve) is punished by death... Ken Wiwa is a clear case in point.
4. They rely on ill-informed heads and ethnicity as a support base.
5. Only the blind, deaf and dumb do not know their stock-in-trade

I therefore insist that the Igbos must be allowed to be what they want to be. Marriage no be by force.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #25 on: November 19, 2005, 12:48 PM »

Whose life is being threatened?

I'm forced to ask whether 'you are a stranger in Jerusalem', that you do not know the things that are happening. Are you in Nigeria at all? If not, are you really touching base with events at home?

The people that are being threatened are the oppressed, economically-emasculated and infrastructurally neglected sections/regions and areas of the country.
They have boldly and clearly declared that they will accomplish their aims without arms... so why are they being charged for treason. For trying to undermine the constitution.... they say.

But who wrote the constitution ... a group of military men without any... i mean any input from you, me, or anybody. Yet the first line declares...'We the people'. If this is not the treason... then I wonder what is.

Now men are being detained and tried for demanding that they do not want to be governed under a constitution that they had nothing to do with its compilation. And because they are Ibo... then they must be killed.

The facts of this case are very simple for any genuinely interested mind to understand...
1. There is a contraption called Nigeria with a population in excess of 100 million which is serving the interest of a few people.
2. These people are bent on having their way even at the peril of men's life and future like they have been doing for the past 45 years. At best they have insisted on under-developing us.
3. Any attempt at stating the obvious ( that is the interest that they serve) is punished by death... Ken Wiwa is a clear case in point.
4. They rely on ill-informed heads and ethnicity as a support base.
5. Only the blind, deaf and dumb do not know their stock-in-trade

I therefore insist that the Igbos must be allowed to be what they want to be. Marriage no be by force.
omon (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #26 on: November 19, 2005, 01:16 PM »

My point is that all you have siad cannot be achieved by burning the houses of innocent lives you want to protect. The same can be said for those who want to burn oil facilities and take hostage of oil workers. There will always be more civilised way of showing your grievances with the government.  When the country really nose-dived during the era of the millitary, it seems these millitia men were quite comfortable with the state of the country then.

It will be in the best interest of the Igbos and Nigerians all over if these men who seem to have few support can capitilise on their synergies and elvolve ways to move their people forward economically. There are initiatives that can be implemented that can draw the generality of youths in the east and south south to economically engage the youths, but I tell you, these guys are looking for international spotlights. To be in the frontpage of news media as freedom fighters...freedom my foot!.  The best freedom they can fight for their people is that of economic empowerment and not chase shadows - secession cannot happen in Nigeria without bloodbath.  Don't you think we had enough bloodshed under the cover of ethnic freedom in Africa? Do you want to re-live the horrors of the civil war again?

This is the time to move on and empower ourselves, we must not wait on the government and guys in MASSOB and the Asaris can help achieve with the energy they seem to possess now.
Justmoi (f)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #27 on: February 02, 2006, 09:17 AM »

Quote from: demmy on November 14, 2005, 06:33 PM
@owo your comparisons doesn't hold water ....
You also asked what has Nigeria done for Igbos. I ask what has Nigeria done for Igala, Urhobos, or for Nupe, Hausa-fulani, Yoruba or any other of the 250 tribes in Nigeria. And must Nigeria "do" especially for Igbos? Now don't tell me the Igbos are marginalized! Or that they are not free and are living in bondage! Its ridiculous. Ethnicizing Nigeria's problem doesn't help to solve it only distract.

I came across this thread via the naijarita news site, so pardon my late reply.

I believe what Owo is referring to is the fact that after the civil war ended, igbo's (civilians and military members alike) were punished for the war. He refers to the fact that after the second world war, the American's and other countries came together to help rebuild Germany and Japan. Most times people attempt to secede because they have one grievance or the other. If the rest of the country is opposed to that on the basis that it is ONE country and should not be divided, then they should reflect that in their actions. Basically, there should be steps toward reconcilation and healing wounds as opposed to punishing civilians and fostering animosity.

During the almost three years that the civil war was going on, the people needed a currency with which to transact their day to day business. After the war was over, the currency was declared to be practically useless, leaving the people with nothing. This was as opposed to giving people are a fare exchange rate and a fair chance at rebuilding.

Also, prior to the war, a lot of igbo's had set up businesses and owned a lot of property in PH, Lagos and many other cities. This was all by dint of their hardwork. The war front continuously changed throughout the war and civilians had to constantly be on the run for their lives. After the war was over and things had returned to normal, Abandoned Property Acts were passed and the governments of various cities declared igbo people's property as abandoned property (eventhough the people had the deeds and other documents necessary to prove ownership) and sold the property at a pittance to the indigenes of the state. Basically, this was a forced transfer of wealth and is somewhat similar to the quota system adopted in universities, where things are not done solely on merit but based on where you are from. Hence people can complain that a particular ethnic group is "more into business than the locals and are buying up all the property." This is what is killing Nigeria. Things are not done on merit. People are penalized for working hard, students from certain areas are penalized for studying hard etc etc.

I believe this is what Owo was referring to when he asked the question, in which case asking what has been done for the igala's, urhobo's, nupe's, yoruba's and the other tribes is irrelevant since they were not victims of Abandoned Property Acts. Nobody is asking for a handout, but that the people should have been allowed to keep what they worked for and that the government should not have penalized civilian's (by seizing their property) all because of their ethnicity.

Like I said earlier, when a war ends, especially a war of secession, a government should work on fostering unity as opposed to penalizing innocent civilians. That is so shortsighted. Nigeria should have taken a cue from the happenings after WW II.
Seun (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #28 on: February 02, 2006, 11:05 AM »

That was all before I was born, right?  And why do we feel the need to revisit all this?  I think the bitter old men should let bygones be bygones so that my generation can have peace.  If we have peace, we would rebuild Nigeria so that the poorest man in the country will be richer than the average man today.  Everybody will be better off though some may be more better off than others. Wink
DaHitler (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #29 on: May 26, 2006, 03:58 AM »

According to Benjamin Franklin, one of the founding fathers of America, those willing to give up a little liberty for a little security deserve neither security nor liberty.

That is a lesson Nigerians need to learn. Yorubas in particular.
owo (m)
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #30 on: May 27, 2006, 09:43 AM »

You are welcome Afeni, I hope the posts above help your pursuit of a fair understanding of the principles on which your country is ran.
guddsid
Re: MASSOB Leaders Charged With Treason (Ralph Uwazurike)
« #31 on: July 14, 2007, 08:11 PM »

      This is d problem wit nigerians when it was gani adams and fasheun we where all complaining when it was dokubo we where all complaining know some fools in this forum are saying it serves him(uwazurike) right,what did he do!if his people arent treated right wouldnt a freedom fighter step up?i bet if nigerians where black americans in the 50's and 60's they would deny martin luther king their support.The governmet would have to release him and other massob members after that then we have a true national confrenece as asari dokubo said in his interview with STV.If we are practicing democracy everyone has the right to speak.the quebecans are speaking seccession and they are getting the attention of the canadian government and guess what?they havent been arrested .UWAZURIKE must be released for peace, when a people get push to the wall they can only push back and i hope u all know what that means
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