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kalujohn
How To Stop Masturbation
« on: July 11, 2009, 04:17 PM »

Steps in overcoming masturbation

Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Many have been, both male and female. And you can also be cured if you determine that it must be so. If you want to give it up, you need will power and determination. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, ‘The Niyyat of a believer is better than the act.’

This determination is the first step. That is where we begin. Firstly, you must decide that you will end this practice and when you make that decision, the problem will be greatly reduced at once. But it must be more than a hope or a wish more than knowing that it is good for you. You must realize that this is a great evil and you have to want to give it up.

It must be actually a decision. If you truly make up your mind that you will be cured, then you will have the strength to resist any tendencies which you may have and any temptations which may come to you. Ask Allah to help you and give you strength and steadfastness to succeed.

After you have made this decision then observe the following specific guidelines.

Guidelines

1. First step is to realize that you are violating Allah’s command and you are bringing upon yourself a life long destruction and harm.

2. Never touch the intimate parts of your body unnecessarily.

3. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company. Remember, an idle mind is the devil’s (Shaytaan) workshop.

4. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, you must break off their friendship. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don’t suppose that both of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind.

The problem must be taken out of your mind for that is where it really exists. Your mind must be on other and more wholesome things. It is mentioned in a Hadith that a person is upon the way of his friend. (Bukhari, Tirmizi)

5. When you bath, do so as quick as possible.

6. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing, you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking and the temptation would leave you.
If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, engage in something useful. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you focus your mind on something else. You are the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.

7. Never look at pornographic material.

8. The attitude of the individual has an effect on how easy it is to overcome. It is essential that a firm commitment be made to control this habit. The person must first realize the evil of this act. Secondly he must understand the reason for this behavior.

After these 2 steps, the individual needs to become sensitive to the situations and conditions which may cause a person to commit this vile act. Hence a person must guard himself from anything, which may trigger a desire for this act. By following these steps, a person gains the ability to gain victory from this act, hence the power to control this filthy practice is developed. Remember you need also a bit of will-power.

Culled from: www.infoselling.wordpress.com
 

emmacom
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #1 on: July 11, 2009, 10:21 PM »

I love your article John Kalu. its realy motivating. keep up with your work

Am Emmanuel Akpan
MRbrownJAY (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #2 on: July 13, 2009, 07:05 AM »

ok lets go back to some of your guidelines:

1. First step is to realize that you are violating Allah’s command and you are bringing upon yourself a life long destruction and harm.
ok so what you mean is that your guidelines are for muslim followers? sorry i aint muslim so "allah" aint part of the people i look up to


2. Never touch the intimate parts of your body unnecessarily.
to some youngsters out there, masturbation is part of discovering themselves and therefore touching themselves is necessary

3. Avoid being alone as much as possible. Find good company and stay in this good company. Remember, an idle mind is the devil’s (Shaytaan) workshop.
do you expect this person to always be surrounded by people?!get real

4. If you are associated with other persons having this same problem, you must break off their friendship. Never associate with other people having the same weakness. Don’t suppose that both of you will quit together, you never will. You must get away from people of that kind. Just to be in their presence will keep your problem foremost in your mind.
do you really think people masturbate in groups? like having a masturbating crew? masturbation has nothing to do with others around you it has everything to do with discovering your sexuality.

5. When you bath, do so as quick as possible.

what about not taking bath at all, or better yet, cut off your hands?!

6. When in bed, if that is where you have your problem for the most part, dress yourself for the night so securely that you cannot easily touch your vital parts so that it would be difficult and time consuming for you to remove those clothes. By the time you started to remove protective clothing, you would have sufficiently controlled your thinking and the temptation would leave you.
If the temptation seems overpowering while you are in bed, engage in something useful. The purpose behind this suggestion is that you focus your mind on something else. You are the subject of your thoughts, so to speak.

please do give the readers and idea what is to be done while in bed trying to masturbate oneself to sleep? i cant think of anythingother than have a good wank and go to sleep

7. Never look at pornographic material.
if you associate pornographic material with masturbation then you have a lot to learn. yes pornographic images can be a great help to a person who is masturbating but it iis not all. a lot of youngsters in their hormonal prime dont need more than just a beautiful sexy thought in their mind to masturbate, no pornographic material needed

8. The attitude of the individual has an effect on how easy it is to overcome. It is essential that a firm commitment be made to control this habit. The person must first realize the evil of this act. Secondly he must understand the reason for this behavior.

the person as much as you wouldnt like it to be , understands that they arent doing anything wrong by touching themselves and bringing pleasure to themselves. they arent doing anything wrong and not hurting anyone. the is absolutely nothing evil about discovering oneself.


what youngsters of today have to understand is MASTURBATION IS NOT AN ILLNESS and that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the act. as long as it doesnt impair you to do your daily life's business and that you dont do it excessively then it is a perfectly normal thing to do for a person growing up discovering themselves.  masturbation is a great way to understand your sexuality, your body, its feeling and what makes you arouse or not. this is also a great way to prepare yourself for what will become a huge part of your adult life:SEX
the catch is to not masturbate too often to the point to where it becomes an addiction. if a youngster doesnt masturbate and walk around all day thinking and dreaming about sex then there is a problem and better masturbate to cool this urge off than walking around and getting a hard on every time you see a sexy beautiful "thing".
to each their own


kalujohn
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #3 on: July 17, 2009, 05:53 PM »

I think that post is an interested one because the dangers of masturbation is so severe.I have a book which titled"Everything You should know about the Dangers of Masturbation And how to Avoid". Is it very inspirational and you be surprise to what you will get from this book.To get it email at johnkalu4christ@gmail.com.
k.bobo (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #4 on: July 20, 2009, 10:32 AM »

Thanks for the tips.But I must admit there is more that meets the eye on this issue.Wankers loves to wank out of intense sexual desire.It is more of an inside thing than the outside.
2dyefor
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #5 on: July 21, 2009, 11:07 PM »

Is it just me or does j.kalu sound like one of those rabid religious extremists? Masturbation is part of the natural human experience of growth.  Look it up!
meAdigun (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #6 on: August 01, 2009, 07:36 PM »

Men Greatest Weakness is his Strength. Men don't usually discuss their sexuality as we see it as weakness and such feign being Strong ALWAYS. Funny, women  know more about men's weaknesses early than men do about themselves.

to 2dyefor
', Masturbation is part of the natural human experience of growth.  Look it up!'

When you look up such you see lots of quacks who won't tell you the side effect of getting addicted (even many married people still masturbate) .

The more masturbate you are training your Brain to be a one man or a one woman sex machine and makes it difficult to satisfy neither yourself nor your wife or husband and will prefer to masturbate (an additional reason why many married couples still masturbate.)



to  k.bobo and MRbrownJAY
, Wankers loves to wank out of intense sexual desire.It is more of an inside thing than the outside.

You are what you eat and what you read. A new born reads its environment through seeing hearing and other senses and such builds its character. The inside thing is the animal thing which is sexual urge while the external thing is  what triggers the urge. If you say it is a thought, It came from the outside and stored in the inside and is refreshed or updated from the outside.

MRbrownJAY doesn't seem to know what he/she is saying. Where did the beautiful sexy thought came from in the first place and we all know you can't be thinking about sex without thinking about a provocatively dressed or NUDE woman if you are a straight man and it doesn't need to come from 2-dimensional media. And it definitely leads youngster to seeking more pornographic  media when thoughts become insufficient as time goes on and it will be a NEED not  a WANT.


To MRbrownJAY :
what youngsters of today have to understand is MASTURBATION IS NOT AN ILLNESS and that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the act, 



It can be a great illness especially for men and become an addict to nude pictures; something they shouldn't have their brain moulded for in the first place.


Discover yourself you said ,  till when may I ask? Is it Till 50 years of age?

Many have discovered themselves without masturbating in the past but now, since we are in the era of nudity and STUPID self-expression we have put our youngster in trouble. We have disturbed their normal brain development with our way of living and they will have to pay for it.


Kalujohn just hit the nail on the head. You don't have to believe in his religion to take his good advice if you are good christian except you are secular oriented.


Reduce looking at pornography and provocative dressing and too detailed love stories and films and you'll have a piece of mind.
MRbrownJAY (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #7 on: August 01, 2009, 07:59 PM »

MRbrownJAY doesn't seem to know what he/she is saying. Where did the beautiful sexy thought came from in the first place and we all know you can't be thinking about sex without thinking about a provocatively dressed or NUDE woman if you are a straight man and it doesn't need to come from 2-dimensional media. And it definitely leads youngster to seeking more pornographic  media when thoughts become insufficient as time goes on and it will be a NEED not  a WANT.
sorry to bust your chop but a beautiful image doesnt necessarily have to do with any thing pornographic. a well dressed woman can do the trick, someone they look up to, someone they cherish. . . . . . .  if you believe that masturbation only happens in front of a computer or reading a magazine then you live in lala land. what about the people masturbating in the shower?
what you have to understand is that IT IS NATURAL to masturbate. every boy/girl in this world at one time or another touched themselves, some will enjoy it and continue others wont and will stop. who are you to decide what is good for some or not? be theboss of your body and let people be the bosses of theirs.
it has been done for generation to generations and will be here for generations to come. people are not doing anything criminal or wrong touching themselves. stop trying to control people and let them do what they please and live with the consequences of their actions.



It can be a great illness especially for men and become an addict to nude pictures; something they shouldn't have their brain moulded for in the first place.
yes you are right that it CAN be a great illness but it is just the tip of the iceberg that becomes addicted. just like people get addicted to EATING etc. would you tell people to stop eating just because some few people are addicted to it?!


Discover yourself you said ,  till when may I ask? Is it Till 50 years of age?
till the day that THEY feel that they know about themselves and find someone that will bring that beautiful feeling they get when touching themselves. if a person decides to masturbate till they are 50 then so be it, thats THEIR choices.

Many have discovered themselves without masturbating in the past but now, since we are in the era of nudity and STUPID self-expression we have put our youngster in trouble. We have disturbed their normal brain development with our way of living and they will have to pay for it.
yes you are right about that too but the fact that SOME did it without masturbation, doesnt mean that it is right. to each their own. i am sure there are MILLIONS of people who masturbated when young and that are happily married and over masturbation by now. also if a man is sexually "frustrated" i would rather that he masturbates than go and cheat on his spouse.
also this IS a new era and the new generation has to do with what they got, it is pretty pointless trying to compare this generation with people who grew up 50yrs ago

meAdigun (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #8 on: August 04, 2009, 08:41 PM »

sorry to bust your chop but a beautiful image doesnt necessarily have to do with any thing pornographic. a well dressed woman can do the trick, someone they look up to, someone they cherish

Hey, I saw right! You wrote `, a well dressed , ' and I wrote `provocatively dressed` in my earlier post .  Shocked WOW! I didn't know anybody can get excited (sexually) at WELL DRESSED WOMEN except till now and I know who. Grin

if you believe that masturbation only happens in front of a computer or reading a magazine then you live in lala land. what about the people masturbating in the shower?

MRbrownJAY, you have a memories; we all have memories. You don't need to take your computer which is modelled after the brain itself, into a shower to remember erotic images. But if you have been reading about Western and even recently  Eastern ways of living on posts, magazines and newspapers, you'd learn that  kids, boyfriends, and sometimes married men are usually caught masturbating while looking at girlie magazines or watching PORN on their MOBILE PHONES by their mums, girlfriends and wives respectively.  These women weren't happy about what they saw.

what you have to understand is that IT IS NATURAL to masturbate. every boy/girl in this world at one time or another touched themselves, some will enjoy it and continue others wont and will stop.

We develop bad habits when little and our mothers or guardians take some of it away from us. Only a few are lucky to get rid of  all bad habits totally so billions grow with them and advance in them till death. Because Billions are with THIS particular bad habit  which increased in our era doesn't make it right. 

Lets take an analogy. Many have fornicated and still do  while just a few known and unknowns  are chaste or have TRULY repented  even with the freedom of continuing.  Should the chaste and repented  be MADE to feel that  they are have somethong wrong with them and should join in the madness of  "fornication and adultery"; a situation the good gets branded bad and vice versa.

Remember ! Developing BAD HABITS at childhood is NATURAL  (AND USUAL) !

yes you are right that it CAN be a great illness but it is just the tip of the iceberg that becomes addicted. just like people get addicted to EATING etc. would you tell people to stop eating just because some few people are addicted to it?!


Eating is a necessity. Masturbation isn't. People DON'T get addicted to eating but may have EATING DISORDERS.


till the day that THEY feel that they know about themselves and find someone that will bring that beautiful feeling they get when touching themselves. if a person decides to masturbate till they are 50 then so be it, thats THEIR choices.

That 'someone' will be in their fantasies FOREVER. Let them learn life not DREAMS . But if they want to continue, then  it is their choice as you have said.This is originally about those who know they have challenges stopping it and want to stop it .


yes you are right about that too but the fact that SOME did it without masturbation, doesnt mean that it is right. to each their own. i am sure there are MILLIONS of people who masturbated when young and that are happily married and over masturbation by now. also if a man is sexually "frustrated" i would rather that he masturbates than go and cheat on his spouse,

You are right. I certainly agree. No excuse for adultery. But why should a spouse sexually frustrate the other pushing him or her to adultery. And why should the frustrated spouse put himself or herself  into a pitiful state masturbating. That should only come after everything has been tried in the good book or if counciling has FAILED for unfortunate couples like this and you have to agree that it is an ABNORMAL situation for  HAPPY spouses.

,  also this IS a new era and the new generation has to do with what they got, it is pretty pointless trying to compare this generation with people who grew up 50yrs ago

Here I disagree. Masturbation increased with our era and will increase in the future  and so will corruption, rape, incest, murder etc. What use is knowledge of the past if we can not compare and learn from the past to see what went wrong and how it can be resolved or ameliorated in our own times.
TOYOSI20 (f)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #9 on: August 05, 2009, 05:40 AM »

To sum all that up in one word, . . . . .REHAB!! Embarrassed Lips sealed Lips sealed
FowardEast (f)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #10 on: August 07, 2009, 04:08 PM »

Maybe i should marry.
MRbrownJAY (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #11 on: August 08, 2009, 10:41 AM »

@meadigun
First of all , let me just say that you bring some very sound points to the table and i will give you that credit. . . . . . . .  now let me try to reply as much as i can to what you wrote:


Hey, I saw right! You wrote `, a well dressed , ' and I wrote `provocatively dressed` in my earlier post . Shocked WOW! I didn't know anybody can get excited (sexually) at WELL DRESSED WOMEN except till now and I know who. Grin
why would you think that pornographic images is the reason why people masturbate?! you are mislead if you believe that. also if you believe that every man masturbate to images of naked women then you have absolutely no idea about what sexuality is all about. let me give you a nice example: have you ever been out and about and had a damn erection for no reason whatsoever?! if you are a virile man then you dont need to answer as i already know the answer to that, and guess what?!
if you think that the reason people masturbate is because of all the images in the media or girl wearing kinky dresses then i would say you are a fanatic that wishes women would dress like most of the over religious muslims women wearing ¨burkhas¨



MRbrownJAY, you have a memories; we all have memories. You don't need to take your computer which is modelled after the brain itself, into a shower to remember erotic images. But if you have been reading about Western and even recently Eastern ways of living on posts, magazines and newspapers, you'd learn that kids, boyfriends, and sometimes married men are usually caught masturbating while looking at girlie magazines or watching PORN on their MOBILE PHONES by their mums, girlfriends and wives respectively. These women weren't happy about what they saw.
yes you are right, the technologies of today makes it more accessible to people, would you say that in the 70s when there was no mobile phones and internet youngsters masturbated less?! of course not, they did because it is a natural thing that happens when a man comes of age or even before. of course gfs and mothers would not be happy about what they saw but if you asked fathers and brothers they would say that it is part of growing as a teenager/young adult. yes masturbation is TABOO in families but that doesnt automatically make it WRONG


We develop bad habits when little and our mothers or guardians take some of it away from us. Only a few are lucky to get rid of all bad habits totally so billions grow with them and advance in them till death. Because Billions are with THIS particular bad habit which increased in our era doesn't make it right.
please do enlighten me and let me know who made the rules to define masturbation as a¨bad habit¨?! you and the over religious people who are trying to force THEIR way of life unto others?! just let people be themselves and do what they feel is right for them.

Lets take an analogy. Many have fornicated and still do while just a few known and unknowns are chaste or have TRULY repented even with the freedom of continuing. Should the chaste and repented be MADE to feel that they are have somethong wrong with them and should join in the madness of "fornication and adultery"; a situation the good gets branded bad and vice versa.
[b]nobody should feel that they are doing anything wrong, if someone decide to stay chaste because of their beliefs then so be it and on the other hand if someone wants to fornicate then let them be and live with the consequences of their actions


Remember ! Developing BAD HABITS at childhood is NATURAL (AND USUAL) !
you are right but nothing in my world says that a child discovering his sexuality and body through masturbation is wrong. it may be wrong to you, and i respect your views but dont make it like all the people who doing it growing up are making a mistake.

Eating is a necessity. Masturbation isn't. People DON'T get addicted to eating but may have EATING DISORDERS.
masturbation is a necessity for youngsters out there to know themselves and the feelings of arousal. its the start to a discovery that will lead them to understand and want to get more of the great feeling of sex. . . .  some might do it more often than other(it is a great feeling afterall) but not all get addicted to masturbation.

That 'someone' will be in their fantasies FOREVER. Let them learn life not DREAMS . But if they want to continue, then it is their choice as you have said.This is originally about those who know they have challenges stopping it and want to stop it .
what is wrong with having fantasies, isnt RELIGION one of the greatest fantasies out there?! let people do what they please and stop trying to blame their so called vices to push a bigger vice like religion unto them.


You are right. I certainly agree. No excuse for adultery. But why should a spouse sexually frustrate the other pushing him or her to adultery. And why should the frustrated spouse put himself or herself into a pitiful state masturbating. That should only come after everything has been tried in the good book or if counciling has FAILED for unfortunate couples like this and you have to agree that it is an ABNORMAL situation for HAPPY spouses.
come on, thats the basics of any relationship. . . . .  not everybody is sexually compatible. if a person require some sexual satisfaction that his spouse is not willing or able to do then that person will be sexually frustrated. after repressing his own sexual being for so long to please his/her spouse, that person will be bound for sexual frustration and only a good jerk will get him to see the light. sometimes cheating do also solve that problem.
its all about compatibility and since we know that people like you preach no sex before marriage, then it might be more prevalent than most in these cases. the catch is to make sure that they are over-religious enough to repress their sexuality over faith and live in their misery for the rest of their lives.



Here I disagree. Masturbation increased with our era and will increase in the future and so will corruption, rape, incest, murder etc. What use is knowledge of the past if we can not compare and learn from the past to see what went wrong and how it can be resolved or ameliorated in our own times.
you are talking like the previous generation failed in some ways and that we have to bring it back to some former glories LOL  . . . . . please do show me where the previous generation went wrong due to masturbation? do also show me where this genration is going wrong due to masturbation? i see absolutely nothing wrong with the youngsters who masturbates over the ones that doesnt but if you know something i dont then please share it with us.
pip lord (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #12 on: August 09, 2009, 06:15 PM »

Pretty exhaustive MRbrownJAY. Its like you used to masturbate yourself. Nice post though.
MRbrownJAY (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #13 on: August 10, 2009, 06:50 AM »

Quote from: pip lord on August 09, 2009, 06:15 PM
Pretty exhaustive MRbrownJAY. Its like you used to masturbate yourself. Nice post though.

OF COURSE i use to masturbate from a very young age and discovered my sexuality through it. . . . . . . . there is NO shame in my game and i will teach my children that there is absloutely nothing wrong or taboo about it.
teach your kids about sexuality instead of hoping that they pick it up from strangers or religious fanatics.
meAdigun (m)
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #18 on: August 11, 2009, 09:37 AM »

I tried sending a post on this yesterday but I don't know why it didn't go through after several attempts

an aside: INCEST

Below is a link to a site which discusses  moves being made to make incest legal in the US.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/05/02/lawful_incest_may_be_on_its_way/

Lets assume this has been realized. Now it will be repugnant and irritating but in 50 years time, due to long brainwashing with media, it won't be and could find its way into the Nigerian legal system.
Many youths then will advocate for it (people with MRbrownJAY's secular mentality).

They'll say its a thing of Nature and give their own Darwinian theory that in nature it is normal for Mother goat to have sex with its kid the goat son, and Father Goat to do the same with goat daughter. They will tell people who oppose it as being over-religious and are fanatics or cultural conservatives and can even cook up lies that it can put an end to cancer and stop hereditary problems from extending into another family tree.
By then, it won't look so disgusting; It is only usual to follow the ways of the world.

But come to think of it.
It is ONLY our cultural heritage and, to a lesser extent, religious upbringing that makes incest look evil and disgusting and nothing else.  If you take that out, our intellect as NOTHING to fall back on to but to accept secular reasoning. Instincts here would be very feeble - You can not prove such feelings to be undeniable

Some Americans are already reasoning towards this saying incest is unavoidable due to various thriving sperm bank businesses and the American ways of living." DNA test is the only way to avoid incest", they say.
(Imagine Americans performing DNA test before sexual relationships)

What ever insidious harm incest will cause could only be known after a long while, but, till then, nothing you can say to disprove it and quack scientist will give theories (not facts) to say its wonderful.


Another aside : A STRONG FEELING
I remember a late night Nigerian radio program some years back  where a lady broadcaster asked her listeners, "what  would you do when going to bed at night alone and suddenly a strong feeling came up".

She never said what the strong feeling was but stressed the phrase so much that it became obvious what she was referring to and could not be mistaken. To the best of my memory, all that called in were men. They gave examples of what they would do like reading the bible, doing pushups, calling friends, etc but NON of them said anything about masturbation.

The broadcaster was not satisfied and kept repeating her questions stressing the "strong feeling" part as she questioned her callers.

I don't remember exactly how it ended but it was obvious she didn't get what she wanted and the way the men answered shows they understood what she was at but were careful not to slip a word relating to masturbation.




Back to the Topic :   How to stop masturbation.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
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Masturbation is HABITUAL (This is a fact). WHAT IS ADDICTION?


Masturbation has been with us and some dangers are known.
If  anyone  feels masturbation is OK then I say they should NOT be concerned about this topic though I stress that everyone should know some dangers and should be able to verify for themselves with common sense rather than let a pervert-turned-sexual-expert tell you things you can easily verify to be illogical.

If masturbation is NOT habitual to you, you would not be frequent with it and would have forgotten about it by now.
So I stress the addiction and sexual degradation aspects of masturbation (where one has difficulty in adapting to his/her spouse to make you drop masturbation for good; This occurs when you have trained your brain and sexual parts to make you a one man/woman sex machine).

Some girls way back in school (though I didn't support their views) often call wankers (who were  their flat mates) hermaphrodites with the reason that they don't need the opposite sex to have sexual gratification (It was clear that there had been disputes).

some questions I think every wanker should ask himself or herself :
1. What is addiction?

2. Can I stay for at least a few months without masturbating ?(of course you can move close to your spouse for this test: A lot of people don't know they are addicted until they try this )

3. What HARM will happen to me if I stopped masturbation?

4. What is there to lose if I could stop masturbation?

This questions makes some simple truth clear about addiction and helps one with ones decisions about this issue.


Please go back to the top to see kalujohn's post. Ignore what you think or know you don't need or like but try other logical steps he gave. Persistence is the key to success and it applies here.






Now let me reply my friend who is obviously but unnecessarily threatened. I had to check his previous postings to know the axis of his argument.

To MRbrownJAY

OF COURSE i use to masturbate from a very young age and discovered my sexuality through it. . . . . . . . there is NO shame in my game and i will teach my children that there is absolutely nothing wrong or taboo about it.
teach your kids about sexuality instead of hoping that they pick it up from strangers or religious fanatics.


Now I see you are confused about sexuality and know NOTHING of it . You've been getting it WRONG all along. Sexuality is the AWARENESS  of being male or female on the basis of REPRODUCTIVE roles  and sexual desires. That is NOT determined by  masturbation.

Sexuality is a very deep and complex issue and it determines a homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual person while masturbation doesn't. Masturbation DOESN'T, I repeat, DOESN'T discover sexuality but COULD twist your sexuality (and become a pervert).

YOUR SEXUALITY DETERMINES WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHILE YOU LUST SEXUALLY OR MASTURBATE MRbrownJAY ( Gays think of men or boys when they wank for example).




First of all , let me just say that you bring some very sound points to the table and i will give you that credit. . . . . . . .  now let me try to reply as much as i can to what you wrote
Thank you. These are obvious points and you would have reached the same points if you were sincere to your soul.

why would you think that pornographic images is the reason why people masturbate?! you are mislead if you believe that. also if you believe that every man masturbate to images of naked women then you have absolutely no idea about what sexuality is all about.
I hope you will start at the start of this very post where I CORRECTED you about what sexuality truly is before you decide to reply me (with links to prove yourself).

Please try to read my previous post CAREFULLY. I never wrote that  people masturbate because of pornographic images but explained that wankers DO USE  pornographic media while or before they wank. And, before you or anyone quote me wrong, I NEVER mentioned that ALL wankers use pornography ( you could be one of the few ones that don't; thoughts of a WELL DRESSED WOMAN would do for you as you wrote in your earlier post).


let me give you a nice example: have you ever been out and about and had a damn erection for no reason whatsoever?! if you are a virile man then you dont need to answer as i already know the answer to that,
I don't know why you brought this up here for this has nothing to do with masturbation but I will bring facts about it. Mothers are advice to check their male babies and children when they wake up to see if they have erection as a early sign of potency and this is something Doctors usually ask men as a FIRST check against impotency and NOT LUSTFUL DESIRES. I, and (I suppose) many men wake up and notice this in us without having a urge to have sex.


and guess what?! if you think that the reason people masturbate is because of all the images in the media or girl wearing kinky dresses then i would say you are a fanatic that wishes women would dress like most of the over religious muslims women wearing `burkhas`
MRbrownJAY, the topic is : How To Stop Masturbation  and NOT women ways of dressing (phew! what is wrong with you). Stop deviating by bringing up UNRELATED religious  resentments. Admit that you have nothing LOGICAL  to say concerning the topic.

would you say that in the 70s when there was no mobile phones and internet youngsters masturbated less?! of course not, they did because it is a natural thing that happens when a man comes of age or even before
Wrong! Kids of tender ages ARE NOT DIRTY at heart like adults (PLEASE GET THAT RIGHT ONCE AND FOR ALL) . They say and do things with respect to what they hear and see with much innocence about its harm but they are not dummies. They know when adults try to hide tapes and magazines away from them and are very curious. Kids and youngster's are known to act out (or commit) incest after sneaking to watch their father's (or any other adult's) porn tapes. Teens are more aware about their sexuality NATURALLY and it is ONLY then can they masturbate when the urge surges NOT the other way round.

an aside: Porn movies do sell; WHY do people  buy or order these movies if they can rely on thoughts of WELL dressed or SKIMPY dressed women like you do?

What influence does it have adults when they drool unknowingly while watching (AND DON'T TELL ME THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SEX)?

More importantly WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN OR AFTER VIEWING PORN MOVIES ALL ALONE (lets assume your partner is not around, you are NOT impotent and you want to stay INSIDE. Do you simply walk away or MORE UNLIKELY, go directly to sleep?

What do you think CHILDREN will do if they get hold of such films? After all when we were, kids,  we acted out BRUCE LEE and other action films after viewing it (SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE  NO IDEA OF IF WE DIDN'T VIEW IT IN THE FIRST PLACE)


. of course gfs and mothers would not be happy about what they saw but if you asked fathers and brothers they would say that it is part of growing as a teenager/young adult. yes masturbation is TABOO in families but that doesnt automatically make it WRONG
Now you INFER that women are selfish deceitful pretenders . They masturbate because it is natural (This is what YOU have been stressing all along ) but don't want  husbands, boyfriends and sons doing it.

Fathers and brothers, typical of most men, are shy to discuss the issue with their children and brothers face to face respectively. You can go back to the beginning of this post to see an example I gave on it. In my earlier post on this topic, in the first paragraph (do care to check), I wrote that man's Greatest Weakness is his Strength. Men usually avoid talking about this issue and tag it as UNMANLY


To prove this, how Many times (if it ever occurred at all) do men walk up to their peer groups (and even intimate friends) and say boldly , " I wanked the swell hell out of my self overnight"? You see them talk about sex and girls and not about wanking. Whose that man who wants to be seen as a LOSER or UNMANLY by others even if they ALL happen to do it secretly?


please do enlighten me and let me know who made the rules to define masturbation as ab ad habit?! you and the over religious people who are trying to force THEIR way of life unto others?! just let people be themselves and do what they feel is right for them.
Sucking thumbs is considered a bad habit and mothers put their children to correction. Why?
Who made that rule?(Mind you some grown ups still suck their thumb. Do you?). Imagine Nigerians sucking thumbs about because mothers could not find a SECULAR reason why it is a bad habit Grin.

You brhabitme as over-religious. I never based my argument on religion. But if I have hurt your way of living please Ignore me. The topic, I repeat, is "How to stop masturbation". since you don't want to stop, You can continue. You don't have to keep posting  and  trying to force your lifestyle on everyone just to make yourself FEEL normal. Grin



nobody should feel that they are doing anything wrong, if someone decide to stay chaste because of their beliefs then so be it and on the other hand if someone wants to fornicate then let them be and live with the consequences of their actions

Please go back and read my earlier post very well. I gave an ANALOGY using fornication to explain something about branding. Masturbation is branded NORMAL by quacks. Which means those who don't and those TRYING to stop  are the ABNORMAL ones, since, according to these quacks, masturbation is natural.

  dont make it like all the people who doing it growing up are making a mistake.
You turn earthworms to snakes.


masturbation is a necessity for youngsters out there to know themselves and the feelings of arousal. its the start to a discovery that will lead them to understand and want to get more of the great feeling of sex. . . .  some might do it more often than other(it is a great feeling afterall) but not all get addicted to masturbation.

MRbrownJAY, are you the type of person who will stumble upon your 9 to 12 years old niece/nephew masturbating then give her/him a pat in the head and say playfully "You are DISCOVERING yourself! its NATURAL!" Huh ? I hope not Angry.

About addiction, I think you are addicted. Confirm that you are not ; try abstaining for a few months (It will prove you can do WITHOUT it - I doubt that greatly  with the way you argue).

what is wrong with having fantasies, isnt RELIGION one of the greatest fantasies out there?! let people do what they please and stop trying to blame their so called vices to push a bigger vice like religion unto them.

You don't even reflect on YOUR own previous posts. Go and read your own earlier posts. Fantasies was NOT the main issue here at all. It is about masturbating where you said wankers can continue
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till the day that THEY feel that they know about themselves and find someone that will bring that beautiful feeling they get when touching themselves
(remember your own words?) and I still  insist  its all  a fantasy from fallacies which can NEVER come true. Stop dreaming.


come on, thats the basics of any relationship. . . . .  not everybody is sexually compatible. if a person require some sexual satisfaction that his spouse is not willing or able to do then that person will be sexually frustrated. after repressing his own sexual being for so long to please his/her spouse, that person will be bound for sexual frustration and only a good jerk will get him to see the light.sometimes cheating do also solve that problem.
its all about compatibility and since we know that people like you preach no sex before marriage, then it might be more prevalent than most in these cases. the catch is to make sure that they are over-religious enough to repress their sexuality over faith and live in their misery for the rest of their lives.

Yet again, this is ABNORMAL situation for HAPPY spouses (and do happy spouses CHEAT?).
COUNSELING is the right step forward for such situations (it may be MORE than it seems to the eye). Masturbation,in THIS situation, if depended upon, will ONLY make each spouse feel they can do without each other sexually (one man/woman sex machine).

sometimes cheating do also solve that problem.
its all about compatibility and since we know that people like you preach no sex before marriage, then it might be more prevalent than most in these cases. the catch is to make sure that they are over-religious enough to repress their sexuality over faith and live in their misery for the rest of their lives.

Again you know NOTHING of what you preach. YOUR SEXUALITY DETERMINES WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHILE YOU HAVE SEXUAL THOUGHTS. In other words, it is determined BEFORE you even have ANY idea about wanking.

Masturbation is just sexual stimulation to attain sexual pleasure (AWARENESS OF SEXUALITY MUST ALREADY EXIST) by RUBBING your sexual organs. Look it up in any dictionary.

you are talking like the previous generation failed in some ways and that we have to bring it back to some former glories LOL  . . . . . please do show me where the previous generation went wrong due to masturbation? do also show me where this genration is going wrong due to masturbation?

The past had some issues which were well contained to a large extent but such issues now plague our own time and could no longer be contained effectively and instead of finding solutions to it people (LIKE YOU) try to make it normal SINCE THE MAJORITY (or a LARGE faction of the ELITE) DO IT. What went wrong and how can we improve or resolve the situations in our own time (which is going from bad to worse)?

Masturbation was not glorified in the past unlike our own time (the same thing goes for homosexuality which is being gradually glorified).
Glorification of incest is on its way and you say the past is not important for us to know how things went wrong in our own time! Knowing what lead to a problem is problem half-solved.

i see absolutely nothing wrong with the youngsters who masturbates over the ones that doesnt but if you know something i dont then please share it with us.
I KNOW YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. How can you tell youngsters apart with respect to those who masturbate and those who don't in the first place? Do you spy on a few youngsters on regular basis for your analysis? Who are these youngsters you referred to ? Are you a pervert?

I suggest you start reading all previous posts (Including your own posts) starting from the first one. I don't know if you do concentrate at all or REMEMBER previous posts.
yeyeruzi
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #24 on: August 20, 2009, 10:38 PM »

I see no reason for so much waste words. Things should be made very clear here.

First and foremost, I'll like to get somethings clear!:

There are two types of madness. One that is seen in public (were gbangba) and one in private( were koko)!

and
When a man has an imaginary friend and interacts with it, you'll say its insanity (except for white men I think).

If a man can daydream of dancing with beautiful babes he saw while in a party we can say its normal but for him to dance with imaginary babes then we can quickly conclude he needs quick but adequate professional help!

Now,
what is this strange talk of masturbating! It is not bad at all, I'm serious, if you are doing it to your babe and she's doing it back to you in the proper positions and technique! and that is cool and safe sex.You can even learn a lot from each other that way (I'm not talking of dirty oral sex here). But to do it with yourself with an imaginary babe; that is so crazy.

So let get it straight! Is it how to stop masturbation (the mutual one with your babe) or how cure people of imaginary sexual partners?
Eboneym2
Re: How To Stop Masturbation
« #26 on: August 24, 2009, 12:52 PM »

Hi John Kalu, you have put up a very educative article on this topic,i believe this will help many out there to stop the danger they put themselves courtesy this act.

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