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jeff101
Kennis Music-is This The End?
« on: July 16, 2009, 01:37 PM »

http://9jahiphop.blogspot.com/2009/07/kennis-music-is-this-end.html

has the end come for naija's biggest record label?what are your thoughts on this?
Shaz (f)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #1 on: July 16, 2009, 01:45 PM »

I thought they ended time ago. .  Grin
obinna5000 (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #2 on: July 16, 2009, 01:53 PM »

Quote from: Shaz on July 16, 2009, 01:45 PM
I thought they ended time ago. .  Grin

Its happening gradually.  Grin
eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #3 on: July 16, 2009, 02:29 PM »

Quote from: obinna5000 on July 16, 2009, 01:53 PM
Its happening gradually. Grin
Wanna know their first major flaw?? Not signing Ruggedman.

Yeah, they lost out on Ruggedman, doesn't look like a big deal . . .
It was, why?? They failed to cash in on the transition of the Nigerian music industry towards Hiphop
Ruggedman was the first major hiphop act in Nigeria, losing out on him meant losing their monopoly.

Back then there was this accepted consensus that you had to be with Kennis to be big
When Ruggedman and other hiphop acts like Trybesmen made it, their monopoly was called into question.
They became just another record label . . . people began to appreciate hiphop more and more and other errors kept dropping.

When Kennis was asked why he didn't sign Ruggedman he said 'You shouldn't throw stones at a fruitless tree'
They thought hiphop was a fruitless tree . . . that sounds so silly right now Grin Grin Grin

Shaz (f)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #4 on: July 16, 2009, 03:09 PM »

Quote from: eldee on July 16, 2009, 02:29 PM
Wanna know their first major flaw?? Not signing Ruggedman.

Yeah, they lost out on Ruggedman, doesn't look like a big deal . . .
It was, why?? They failed to cash in on the transition of the Nigerian music industry towards Hiphop
Ruggedman was the first major hiphop act in Nigeria, losing out on him meant losing their monopoly.

Back then there was this accepted consensus that you had to be with Kennis to be big
When Ruggedman and other hiphop acts like Trybesmen made it, their monopoly was called into question.
They became just another record label . . . people began to appreciate hiphop more and more and other errors kept dropping.

When Kennis was asked why he didn't sign Ruggedman he said 'You shouldn't throw stones at a fruitless tree'
They thought hiphop was a fruitless tree . . . that sounds so silly right now Grin Grin Grin



Lol. .true that.
dammiecool (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #5 on: July 16, 2009, 03:18 PM »

@eldee
Thats why I love n will always love Rugged man.
comin against kennis as @ dat time was like a suicide mission.
many thought he ll fail but d guy succeded,many saw how d industry was
messed up(eg mode ix) but den no get gut to stand before d moving train(kennis)

@post
I think this guy should move away frm d screen,make dem employ young guyz to take over.
dey should also try to search raw talent and develop dem n not only ready made act. Cool
eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #6 on: July 16, 2009, 03:47 PM »

Quote from: dammiecool on July 16, 2009, 03:18 PM
@eldee
Thats why I love n will always love Rugged man.
comin against kennis as @ dat time was like a suicide mission.
many thought he ll fail but d guy succeded,many saw how d industry was
messed up(eg mode ix) but den no get gut to stand before d moving train(kennis)
Nah . . . he just made a smooth PR move
Go against Kennis' biggest stars and you'll get famous

Besides it helped to give other rappers the guts too
2shot came out to do a Jay-Z, went out to do his own thing without a record label.
That sparked a trend, that's when P-Square, Faze and other artistes went to do their own thing.
ice_zik (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #7 on: July 16, 2009, 06:00 PM »

I agree it was Ruggedman that proved that you didn't have to be with Kennis to be big but it was 2shot that showed that you could make money without joing them. 2shot changed the music industry by taking his album directly to the piraters and getting them to sell it instead. T.Joe and all the other big Marketers/distributers were all formed off the back of 2shot's genius and innovative move!
sundid (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #8 on: July 23, 2009, 01:33 AM »

Eldee which one are u. &wat side of history are u coming from. Hip in naija started far back as early90's when likes of dj abdullah, junior&pretty, ff, queen change, dr fresh etc where holding down d spot then. But kennis came 2remodify d system by bringing da likes of remedies,wich later paved way for a total break in naija music. &also i wonderd where u gt your info about ruggedman seeking contract wit kennis. Pls dnt mis-informed our young catz.
sundid (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #9 on: July 23, 2009, 01:52 AM »

To all lovers of naija/afro hiphop.I wnt 2say no matter d probable problem kennis might be facin rite now,we shldnt see them as a failure.They have come a long way give2 our music recognision all ova d world. Big music producers like Nelson Brown,Seyi Allen etc,try there very best 2keep 2d feat.Why kennis? It's only this part of d world someone fails,then people wld start rejoicing.I beg of u,lets support them wit d lil' we can. It's our industry
javalove (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #10 on: July 23, 2009, 10:21 AM »

Quote from: sundid on July 23, 2009, 01:52 AM
To all lovers of naija/afro hiphop.I wnt 2say no matter d probable problem kennis might be facin rite now,we shldnt see them as a failure.They have come a long way give2 our music recognision all ova d world. Big music producers like Nelson Brown,Seyi Allen etc,try there very best 2keep 2d feat.Why kennis? It's only this part of d world someone fails,then people wld start rejoicing.I beg of u,lets support them wit d lil' we can. It's our industry

Gbam. . .!

Nigerians love to jubilate when big stars get stuck
eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #11 on: July 23, 2009, 03:54 PM »

Quote from: sundid on July 23, 2009, 01:33 AM
Eldee which one are u. &wat side of history are u coming from. Hip in naija started far back as early90's when likes of dj abdullah, junior&pretty, ff, queen change, dr fresh etc where holding down d spot then. But kennis came 2remodify d system by bringing da likes of remedies,wich later paved way for a total break in naija music. &also i wonderd where u gt your info about ruggedman seeking contract wit kennis. Pls dnt mis-informed our young catz.
I'm talking bout mainstream hiphop not sum backyard DJ here, was hiphop in Nigeria maninstream in the early 90's??
You said Dr Fresh was 'holding it down', does he have half the popularity of 2shot??  Grin Grin

For sumone who claims to know so much, u're sounding quite the opposite, did I ever say Ruggedman sought a contract??
It was common knowledge that Kennis Music called Ruggedman a 'fruitless tree' in an interview.

You call me fruitless tree, you talk say I no go grow
Look into my eyes and tell me say I no blow
- Ruggedman (Big Bros)

Quote from: sundid on July 23, 2009, 01:52 AM
To all lovers of naija/afro hiphop.I wnt 2say no matter d probable problem kennis might be facin rite now,we shldnt see them as a failure.They have come a long way give2 our music recognision all ova d world. Big music producers like Nelson Brown,Seyi Allen etc,try there very best 2keep 2d feat.Why kennis? It's only this part of d world someone fails,then people wld start rejoicing.I beg of u,lets support them wit d lil' we can. It's our industry
Did you see me 'rejoicing'??
And what's wrong with people rejoicing because of the fact that upcoming artistes of that period made it big??
I'd use another Big Bros quote

For us newcomers, times are hard
But you bleeped up big time by trying to play God
- Ruggedman
sundid (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #12 on: July 24, 2009, 02:50 AM »

Guy eldee, u sound really like a newcomer 2d afro-hip tang. U said kennis wld have signd/go into contract wit ruggedman which eva way.While rugged didnt start hiphop in naija. Even if he sees your post he wld laff at u.Let me enlighten u on dat big bros tang. Rugged afta droppin his first single hen,hen. keke wonderd dat how can a beef kinda song sell in naija @dat time.So he was made 2said dat out of ignorance dat it wld be used against him. So rugged was really sourcing for statement 2use in buttressing his breakthrue, no doubt about dat. N.B. if u said rugged man startd rap in naija, where was d junior&pretty, dr fresh &co or wen were born. pls go back 2d hiphip skool 2learn more.
sley4life (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #13 on: July 24, 2009, 04:51 AM »

No
eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #14 on: July 25, 2009, 02:35 AM »

Quote from: sundid on July 24, 2009, 02:50 AM
Guy eldee, u sound really like a newcomer 2d afro-hip tang. U said kennis wld have signd/go into contract wit ruggedman which eva way.
You what your problem is?? ENGLISH!!!
Kennis Music SHOULD have signed the biggest rap artiste of that period . . . is that too hard for you to understand??

Quote from: sundid on July 24, 2009, 02:50 AM
While rugged didnt start hiphop in naija. Even if he sees your post he wld laff at u. Let me enlighten u on dat big bros tang. Rugged afta droppin his first single hen,hen.
Enlighten me?? How bout the fact that Ruggedman's first single was What If (1999) not 'hen hen'??

Quote from: sundid on July 24, 2009, 02:50 AM
keke wonderd dat how can a beef kinda song sell in naija @dat time.So he was made 2said dat out of ignorance dat it wld be used against him. So rugged was really sourcing for statement 2use in buttressing his breakthrue, no doubt about dat. N.B. if u said rugged man startd rap in naija, where was d junior&pretty, dr fresh &co or wen were born. pls go back 2d hiphip skool 2learn more.
So, tell me, how does that take away the fact that Kennis Music did not sign the future of Nigerian hiphop
And shut up with your Junior and Pretty . . . no one knew them, everyone was jamming to Plantation Boys while they were 'holding it down'.
sundid (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #15 on: July 25, 2009, 10:12 AM »

Bro, i wont stress on why didnt KENNIS MUSIC signed whoeva back then. Why? Cos most of all this catz now were at d backyard, scared of if there song wld be acceptd or purchased. While producers at dat time were nt ready 2support rap music. Also platation werent strictly a rap group. So ask d likes of trybesmen why didnt they have an album at dat time. Lets concentrate on d fact dat hiphop is here 2stay &we 'all must make sure 2uphold this. Above  all, we cant but give a maximum respect &credit2 KENNIS MUSIC. They made dis break a success. That's why i wldnt like 2see anyone try 2go against this height we've attained.
mbulela
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #16 on: July 25, 2009, 12:50 PM »

Quote from: eldee on July 25, 2009, 02:35 AM
You what your problem is?? ENGLISH!!!
Kennis Music SHOULD have signed the biggest rap artiste of that period . . . is that too hard for you to understand??
Enlighten me?? How bout the fact that Ruggedman's first single was What If (1999) not 'hen hen'??
So, tell me, how does that take away the fact that Kennis Music did not sign the future of Nigerian hiphop
And shut up with your Junior and Pretty . . . no one knew them, everyone was jamming to Plantation Boys while they were 'holding it down'.
guy, Junior and pretty were like 5 years (probably more) ahead of plantation boys.
when Junior and Pretty were rocking, plantation boys were still writing GCE.
please keep you reply civil.
samparian (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #17 on: July 25, 2009, 01:13 PM »

i dont know who started hiphop rap in naija.

the point is Kennis music started playing God. Ruggedy baba took a big forward and gave many guys the courage to come out with their music and style.

now dem don blow and Kennis dey go slow
Ruggedman and Psquare made me pay attention to naija rap. Now, i no fit buy oyibo rap sef
damola1
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #18 on: July 25, 2009, 01:16 PM »

Crappy topic.

Am not to happy with whoever put this on the front page,  this shouldn't even make the back page,  bad news don't sell no more, what sells is real news,  u hear?

To the topic.

Kennis is still baba,  I mean,  lets look at the records,  na dem bring all these awards from mobo to world music awards wey 2 baba play last year,

they are simply chilling to invest in the next correct talent, they can't be wasting energies on riff raffs, 

They only have the marketing and management poweress to make a nigerian boy become a world citizen,  thats i,
YankeeZulu
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #19 on: July 25, 2009, 01:35 PM »

kennis music paved the way for Nigerian music/musicians, they almost singlehandedly took us into the international limelight. They made it possible that Nigeria wasn't just inviting international stars to perform, but also we Nigerians had a stage to perform in a foreign country. I know they stepped on some innocent toes and snubbed some other promising talents, but many big labels even in US are guilty of this. All in all, Kennis deserves our respect.
Virgo83 (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #20 on: July 25, 2009, 02:26 PM »

Kennis Music are still in the limelight. . .  very much active, those guys are making cool money, you all need to know.
They have the Most working connection with the Music World in terms of promoting Artist, 

Quote from: dammiecool on July 16, 2009, 03:18 PM
@post
I think this guy should move away frm d screen,make dem employ young guyz to take over.
dey should also try to search raw talent and develop dem n not only ready made act. Cool

@ dammiecool
you made sense concrning the issue. . .

The Industry need to be competitive, truly their Monopoly reigns for while yet they are still 2nd to none


Virgo83 (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #21 on: July 25, 2009, 02:35 PM »

Quote from: YankeeZulu on July 25, 2009, 01:35 PM
kennis music paved the way for Nigerian music/musicians, they almost singlehandedly took us into the international limelight. They made it possible that Nigeria wasn't just inviting international stars to perform, but also we Nigerians had a stage to perform in a foreign country. I know they stepped on some innocent toes and snubbed some other promising talents, but many big labels even in US are guilty of this. All in all, Kennis deserves our respect.

They don't just deserve our respect, they worthy to be celebrated, I wish I had the opportunity to do that.

How do you expect one to be perfect NOBODY IS PERFECT, So as the kennis. Nobody is innocent, we all wanna make money.
ifyalways (f)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #22 on: July 25, 2009, 03:03 PM »

LOL @ replies.
Those old guys are just so irritating,they want to do everything themselves,(package,direct,produce,market,organise etc).Bunch of irritants  Cheesy
anayoe (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #23 on: July 25, 2009, 03:42 PM »

[url]It's time we call a spade a spade.
Kennis music came like a storm a washed away the real essence of Naija music. Now that there is a paradigm shift, it is left for them to re-define there acts or be out of business.

Music is a movement not a monument, so let them leave behind the old ways they have used to mess up the music industry and embrace the true ethics of Naija music. Else,


remoranger (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #24 on: July 25, 2009, 03:44 PM »

yes. small by small.
igbonla (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #25 on: July 25, 2009, 04:21 PM »

This thread is pretty dumb, this is 2009, competition is a way of life. Everything is being redefined and every entrepreneur should know how to play the game. Would have been surprised if no artiste bothered to play the game differently.
What's the cry about if its the end of Kennis music? They played their part, others should play theirs

Quote from: ifyalways on July 25, 2009, 03:03 PM
LOL @ replies.
Those old guys are just so irritating,they want to do everything themselves,(package,direct,produce,market,organise etc).Bunch of irritants  Cheesy

And what's wrong with that? Are you a Nigerian at all? Am sure you have a word or 2 for Ben Bruce too!
iziturname
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #26 on: July 25, 2009, 04:23 PM »

now Olu Maintain left too and his about to drop a killer album, hurd the singles?

ARAB MONEY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7XVlPuIP_8

WHAT A MAN CAN DO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWAhW7mfACc
eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #27 on: July 25, 2009, 04:46 PM »

Quote from: sundid on July 25, 2009, 10:12 AM
Bro, i wont stress on why didnt KENNIS MUSIC signed whoeva back then. Why? Cos most of all this catz now were at d backyard, scared of if there song wld be acceptd or purchased. While producers at dat time were nt ready 2support rap music. Also platation werent strictly a rap group. So ask d likes of trybesmen why didnt they have an album at dat time. Lets concentrate on d fact dat hiphop is here 2stay &we 'all must make sure 2uphold this. Above all, we cant but give a maximum respect &credit2 KENNIS MUSIC. They made dis break a success. That's why i wldnt like 2see anyone try 2go against this height we've attained.

Exactly what I said in my first post before you started talking bout how you graduated from the University of Afrohiphop
Ruggedman's success was probably a stroke of luck . . . but it started a trend
I have nothing against Keke and D1,  they laid the path for Sound City and the rest of 'em, but they failed to cash in on a very promising brand, c'est fini

Did I ever say Plantation Boys was a rap group??

@mbulela
I'll keep the harsh words down if y'all stop being overly sentimental
I stated a simple fact . . . in the era of Kennis Music, the most popular hiphop artiste was Ruggedman
Even his first single What If got spins from DJs . . .
Dr Fresh, Junior and Pretty were not popular enough to sell out my backyard.

Acts like Triple T came close but that's as far as it went.
mystics (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #28 on: July 25, 2009, 05:10 PM »

There is a clear message in this and anyone who wants to understand will. Truth is "I get am before no be money" Kennis of today is not the Kennis we use to know, their contribution to the music industry is not an issue to be disputed, they deserve that commendation. What we should understand is that they did not understand "seasons and times." Not signing ruggedman was a flaw and we must accept. If they did, maybe their monopoly will still be here which i am seriously thanking God its gone. Ruggedman proved to so many newcomers that you can do it outside of Kennis and that was when the downhill kennis journey started.
kofiannan (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #29 on: July 25, 2009, 05:11 PM »

@Topic,

One thing I love and hate about Nigerians is that they are very critical.

Today they like and applaud you

Tomorrrow they hate and judge you.

Dbanj is the talk of the town. He introduced koko mansion and the same Nigerians wrote him off.

2face is the best. His personal and private life became a source of hatred.


Na so we be.

Sooner than later, we will start hearing hateful messages about Rugged Man


eldee (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #30 on: July 25, 2009, 05:29 PM »

Quote from: kofiannan on July 25, 2009, 05:11 PM
@Topic,

One thing I love and hate about Nigerians is that they are very critical.

Today they like and applaud you
Tomorrrow they hate and judge you.
Dbanj is the talk of the town. He introduced koko mansion and the same Nigerians wrote him off.
2face is the best. His personal and private life became a source of hatred.


Na so we be.
Sooner than later, we will start hearing hateful messages about Rugged Man
What you think it's just Nigeria??
Let me bring a quote from Billy Flynn in Chicago.

Roxie: They LOVE me.
Billy Flynn: They'd love you a lot more if you were hanged. You know why? Because it would sell more papers,  That's Chicago.

That's showbiz . . . it's the same everywhere in the world
Fans don't owe anyone . . . no one owes Kennis nuffin, they should suck it up already.
temitwice (m)
Re: Kennis Music-is This The End?
« #31 on: July 25, 2009, 05:35 PM »

which of d eldee b diz???
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