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asanga (m)
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It may interest you to know that God may not answer your prayers or send help to you,because you are a sinner but what also amazes me is that he does almost the same to believers he does as he pleases the bomb blast in London some months ago is still fresh in our memories where people woke up having great expectations only to be short lived by a terrorist @ least God was there why did it happen?
The recent plane crash in Nigeria is another case study where God should have proved himself but 117 people died just like that @ least God helped so many people in the Bible why not now may be God is coming soon or maybe he allows it to happen to teach people lessons but I still ask why does God keep silent? especially in times like these when we need him most a friend told me nothing happens without his approval but what do you really think.
A pastor should please say something in the forum to encourage we younger ones.
asanga himself.
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WesleyanA (f)
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christians will say :
the bad things happened because he wants to punish sinners (innocent people) or punish London or because "the next hitler" was on the plane and he didn't want him ot survive.
if people had survived on the plane, christians will say:
it's because God is a merciful God and he didnt want to kill people or want anyone to die.
:shakes head:
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adesodgi (m)
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well never mind,i hope u are not mad with miya?
why does God keep silent shee?
i believe his giving every one a chance to change ways and turn to him for good...
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Ajisafe
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Going to churches and mosques doesn't make you sinless. A babalawo or an animist might not be as sinful as either a christian or Muslim.
The Bellview plane mishap was due to poor maintenance. So if it was obvious that the airline did not adequately maintain its aircraft, still, God ought to stop the accident from happening? If a car doesn't have a (good) brake and it ends up in a ditch, killing the occupants [whether they all go to church/mosque or not], is the good God (or the driver/owner that didn't care to repair his car) to blame? Don't blame God -- blame the poor maintenance.
About the Britain's station bombings: the youngsters were unhappy because the British Blair has become a lackey of the American Bush -- it was all geopolitical in nature! Both governments' illegal presence in Iraq didn't help the matter either! God had nothing to do with it.
Remember that God has given each and every one of us a FREE WILL! That's why we can decide if something is good or bad.
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WesleyanA (f)
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That's what i'm talking about. people need to start using logic and their brains to think about things. the airplane accident happened as a result of poor maintanance (you know how Nigerian is  ) not because of G0D. why do we have to blame misfortunes on the supernatural. |
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exu (m)
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i'D like to point out that bellview has suffered only one plane crash is 15 years...
plane crashes happen all the time, all over the world due to misfortune, or a slight miscalculation, not because of 'how nigeria is'....
other than that i agree with wesleyana's first comments/observations...
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fabian (f)
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God is silent because he cannot involve Himself in everything that happens. Life's not clockwork, you know. And not all christians will say christians will say :
the bad things happened because he wants to punish sinners (innocent people) or punish London or because "the next hitler" was on the plane and he didn't want him ot survive.
if people had survived on the plane, christians will say:
it's because God is a merciful God and he didnt want to kill people or want anyone to die.
:shakes head:
That's too general a statement. If God wanted people to die anyway He chose, what was the purpose of creation? I mean do you think He thinks its fun? We all have our lives, and God has given us free will to do as we please! |
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prettyH (f)
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That's what i'm talking about. people need to start using logic and their brains to think about things. the airplane accident happened as a result of poor maintanance (you know how Nigerian is ) not because of G0D. why do we have to blame misfortunes on the supernatural. Please i'm lost . logic bout what. From what you're saying guess u don't believe in d supernatural. Well sorry to burst your bubble,i believe in God well and in da supernatural. I've experienced things that d human eye can not see. To d bellview crash, fine human error has a part to play but God allowed it happen for a purpose. That plane has flown constantly for years but why that sunday. Certainly God can not involve himself in everything as fab said, because how r we to learn. You can't say we don't have trials and tribulations? But d trials and tribulations strenghten u and makes us better persons in achieving greater things. Going to churches and mosques doesn't make you sinless. A babalawo or an animist might not be as sinful as either a christian or Muslim.
in life. See how can u compare a babalawo? He is no better than the devil. For one to be considered a real christian because i am, u must be a follower of Christ so please no comparison. Please we r of a diff generation , a chosen priesthood.I guess u mean those that go to church or mosques for the purpose of so doing. And as i said above God can't be involved in all of Nigerias problems. If u don't know God is our saving grace in that country. Considering the numerous and constant attrocities rampant in that country. I'm surprised people r still alive sef. But God is all merciful. But till all Nigerians accept Jesus as Lord and saviour before alot of things will start falling into place. Why should God protect persons that fail to acknowledge his existence or even presence. It is written in da bible only those who call on Him can say "He's their rock and protection, their fortress" and those will He answer So please take note. |
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WesleyanA (f)
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prettyH, the original poster's asking us to state our opinion as to why God keeps silent. he didn't say to argue who's opinion is the right or wrong. i still hold my words poor maintanance and what not caused the plane crash. It had nothing to do with God. |
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Ajisafe
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Why should God protect persons that fail to acknowledge his existence or even presence
@prettyH, there were better Christians than you in that doomed aircraft.
See how can u compare a babalawo? He is no better than the devil. For one to be considered a real christian because i am, u must be a follower of Christ so please no comparison
I repeat, a babalawo that is not as religiously biased as yourself can enter paradise before you. And that is if you will enter paradise at all!
But till all Nigerians accept Jesus as Lord and saviour before alot of things will start falling into place.
You're wrong!!!!!! Na lie, you can not force anybody into your religion!
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Z4M4eva (f)
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God is not SILENT  |
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prettyH (f)
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@ ajisafe
agreeably there r better christians than me who died on the plane because ma aunt did. 4 your info i ain't religiously biased. can't compare a babalawo to a christian. Stand ma ground. certainly no one can be forced into religion but remember whatever u reap , u'll sow.
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exu (m)
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certainly no one can be forced into religion but remember whatever u reap , u'll sow. does that mean that i'll go to paradise/heaven for living the according to the most basic of human laws; that one should only do to others what they wish to be done unto them, but not accepting old myths as the truths...whilst a roman catholic priest who abused 100s of children, believed in, and advertised, the teachings of the church will go to hell?  |
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Ajisafe
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can't compare a babalawo to a christian
@prettyH, why not? Even though he worships idols and inanimate objects, a babalawo is far removed from being a hypocrite!
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prettyH (f)
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why should he be one. As long as u pay his fee, he'll sort u out. Infact whats this bout hypocrite
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Ajisafe
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Infact whats this bout hypocrite
Just think about it.
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prettyH (f)
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bout what
bro nothing to think bout
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Ajisafe
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There you go! In fact, it's equally hypocritical to say there's nothing to think about.
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prettyH (f)
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hahahaaaaaaaaaaa, i ain't backing down
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Ajisafe
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OK, give me your reasons why you thought babalawos are not comparable to christians.
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Ajisafe
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I'm still waiting!!!!!!
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Ajisafe
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I guess, you're out of gas!
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adesodgi (m)
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i don't tfink she's out of gas i tfink she's out of points  but wa o,how can u compare a babalawo with a christian,anywayz thou shall not judge... |
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kewe (f)
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maybe He wants us to pray the more
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goodguy (m)
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I really don't know why we have to question God's ways of doing things. He chooses to save anybody, anyhow it pleases HIM. And talking of the bellview plane crash, I don't think anyone in here should be talking of someone being a better Christian than the other. As I always said and as I will continue to say, GOD DOES THINGS HIS OWN WAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF MANKIND. Even JESUS CHRIST, a man who never knew sin, had to die in a very terrible way, alongsides with armed robbers; for our own sake. WHO ARE WE TO QUESTION GOD??
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Ajisafe
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You're welcome, Goodguy.
@Adesoji, Thou Shalt Not Judge, was exactly my point. We can not judge a babalawo's suitability or right to enter paradise. Babalawo is not a religion -- it's simply a professional career. There are babalawos who are Christian; also, there are babalawos who are Muslim. Babalawos and oniseguns are our own doctors and pharmacists in Yorubaland. They are not evil! People go to the orthodox doctors for abortion, plastic surgeries, liposuction, facial and other reconstructive surgeries, genital corrective surgeries, transgender surgeries ( I call these playing God), and other ungodly reasons like they go to babalawos for anything. Have we ever called the orthodox doctors evil? (My uncle is a thoracic surgeon, and he's not evil, so isn't any babalawos out there). Those of you who are Yoruba should not forget that before our forefathers were kicked out of the Arabian peninsular they were idol worshippers! Lamurudu (Nimrod) was the chief priest of the idolaters as at the time of the Exodus out of Arabia; he later gave birth to Oduduwa, who was the founder of the Yoruba.
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goodguy (m)
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Lamurudu (Nimrod) was the chief priest of the idolaters as at the time of the Exodus out of Arabia; he later gave birth to Oduduwa, who was the founder of the Yoruba.
I was there in those days. I actually helped in delivering ODUDUWA..  |
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Ajisafe
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Ha! Baba o! Ki e pe fun wa o. Agba ko nii tan l'orile. (Ase)
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prettyH (f)
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You're welcome, Goodguy.
@Adesoji, Thou Shalt Not Judge, was exactly my point. We can not judge a babalawo's suitability or right to enter paradise. Babalawo is not a religion -- it's simply a professional career. There are babalawos who are Christian; also, there are babalawos who are Muslim. Babalawos and oniseguns are our own doctors and pharmacists in Yorubaland. They are not evil! People go to the orthodox doctors for abortion, plastic surgeries, liposuction, facial and other reconstructive surgeries, genital corrective surgeries, transgender surgeries ( I call these playing God), and other ungodly reasons like they go to babalawos for anything. Have we ever called the orthodox doctors evil? (My uncle is a thoracic surgeon, and he's not evil, so isn't any babalawos out there). Those of you who are Yoruba should not forget that before our forefathers were kicked out of the Arabian peninsular they were idol worshippers! Lamurudu (Nimrod) was the chief priest of the idolaters as at the time of the Exodus out of Arabia; he later gave birth to Oduduwa, who was the founder of the Yoruba.
u know what your case is sad because your defence is so lame. what does a doctor av to do with a babalawo.so i guess u think a babalawo is the same as a doctor. or they perform the same function.imagine an educated brother.yyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeee infact define a babalawo because the way i view them certainly defers from urs. |
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