Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process

@mrpataki and muyiwabank   thanks a lot. Muyiwa,how's school going? Guess u must have settled down now and adjusted to the life over there. Please email to me the email address of the second immigration secretary. My email address is funkysisi@yahoo.com. Thanks

Hello everybody!
I am from Uzbekistan. I applied for visa 2 month ago and my application was rejected. Here's the text of ECO's supporintg evidence:


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* You state that you are able to speak English but have provided no evidence of this. You have taken no recognized English language evaluation test, such as IELTS test or TOEFL. Therefore, I do not consider that you have demonstrated, on the balance of probabilities, that you have sufficient command of English to foolow the course as you wil be required to understand complex phraseology on the Diploma of Business Administratioin course. Paragraph 57 (ii) of HC 395

* I note that you have stated you will return to Uzbekistan and resume your emplyment. However I do not find it credible that a company which is providing no financial contribution towards your costs, can genuinly expect you to return and continue your employment with them. Even though your employer state in their support lette that the company needs specialists they are not providing any funding towards your trip. As such I am not satisfied on the balance of probabilities that you intend to leave UK at the end of your proposed course. Paragraph 57 (iv) of HC 395.
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Now I've got a letter that confirmes that the company I work for is ready to pay 50% of all costs.  But I have no TOEFL or IELTS. I've got English Proficiency document from the University I graduated from, it is signed by the Head of English Language Department and by the Dean of my faculty. I have also some certificates of English.
Today is 26th day since my application was rejected and I have to decide whether to make an appeal or not in two days. Please give me advice! Will these docs satisfy ECO or not? And is it real to get visa quickly or it will be considered for 1 year? I've read on UK visas site that an appeal will be concidered by Senior ECO, and if the new docs satisfy him, he will give a visa immediately, not sending my documents to London.

Please help!

@baba_jee

Copies of the determination was forwarded to myself (the appellant) and the Presenting Officers Unit on the ? ? ? (January date). The five days for the respondent (ECO) to appeal the determination of Judge ? ? ? lapsed on the (date on letter plus five days), hence I am using this correspondence to remind (the post) of the statutory duty under s87 of the 2002 Act for ECO's to comply with the Judge's direction.
Would be looking forward to hearing from you with regards to presenting myself to the visa section. 
                                                                    Yours Sincerely
                                                                      Baba_jee
     

@mr pataki
you volunteered to educate me on this 5 days issue, still waiting, or do I have to wait 56 days or three months before I get a reply from you too? 

@ Frozenfire,
I suggest you appeal, as well do the proficiency test exams ASAP, get a letter from the company that they will be willing to sponsor your degree program. All this documents you will submit later on as the appeal goes by.
It might take up to a year though before the outcome gets known.

But in the meanwhile, I will suggest you appeal urgently.

@ baba_jee,
Big_bumper just gave you a well documented write-up as to your case. It is very simple to understand. Just type the mail and forward it to the High Commission.

                             But it not  5 days as she stated there.

@frozenfire

You don't need to but you could try submitting two letters one headed reconsideration, the other appeal, with your verification letter from your employer and your previous place of study's proof of your proficiency in English. They can have the same content. The logic is for the senior ECO to be able to review his colleague's decision based on the new information you supplied.

If the decision can be reconsidered it would be better than an appeal that could take anything fron four months to six months.


Good luck.

Original Quote:

Quote:From Akolawole


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Quote;From Akolawole






It's nice to learn that someone else was able to get their British passport within 4 days from the BHC Lagos in 1994

I try not to reply to this but it may turn out to be very educative afterall.

Now lets continue, I am EVEREADY

Can you clarify this statement for me;

1) where is British passport booklet made? United Kingdom or Lagos?

2) Why does it take applicants on appeal to get their determination(judgement) before BHC?

UK Passports applied for through  the BHC Lagos are issued by the Consular Dept of the BHC/ FCO (Foreign & Commonwealth Office) .Inside the passport the originating BHC issuing the passport used to be clearly written .Nowadays,its just written FCO inside.UK Visa,UK Passport Agencyand UK Immigration Service all share the same database and facilities and make up the staff of the BHC as most staff are multidisciplinary staff from different UK Government Dept's on secondment.

To answer your question the way you put it, the British passport booklets are made in UK but can be issued through Foreign posts such as the British High Commission Abuja or the Deputy British High Commission in Lagos.

I knew the booklet passport emanate from UK.

I knew about the database so i don't really need enlightment  on that.

So you apply at BHC on monday with documents and the Passport office in london issue the passport and the consular department deliver it to you on Thursday.

24 hrs multiply by 4 days = 96 hours

Getting UK passport in lagos within 96 hours, I rest my case on this.

I remembered following Kemi to British high commision's office in 1993 for the same thing.

Through Kemi, i first knew their Ibadan office which is located in a very "strange" place in Ibadan, which is adjacent to Alhaji arisekola's Old bodija house. The application takes more than a year.

Lagos would be earlier but not 96 hours.

 

Akolawole, the Consular Dept of the BHC in Lagos (just like any other BHC UK Post) can unilaterally issue UK passports in Lagos without having to go to the Passport Office in London to get it done. That is why I mentioned before that staff of the UK Passport Agency do work in the BHC on secondment/ detached duty there for that purpose.All BHC are equipped with the same Biometric passport machines for the purpose of issuing UK passports, so, obtaining a UK passport in Lagos within 96 hours is not an issue (as confirmed by another person {Big Bumper} on this thread]

Thats not true Akolawole, Biometric properties have always been an intrinsic feature of UK Passports. In 1994 the Biometric features were then encoded in the machine readable encrypted part of the passport at the bottom, now the Biometric features are encoded in chips embeded in the back of the UK passports.


I hope we have learnt some salient educative aspects about the subject matter from each other throughout  the course of this online confabulation?

Where u dey hide sef for London?

hiye guysssss n gurlzzzzzzzzz
i have been waiting for the reply from your side
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please help me out
i have attached a recorded file, my english is not well so i can't understand the email address saying in recording
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plzzzzzzzzzzz listen this recording and tell me the rite email address
it says determination?.team?@gsi.go.uk
plzzzzzzzz make it rite by listening the recording ,
,  i m waitinggggggggggg
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thank u all for previous help ,  specially londonkool, akolawale, n big_bumper
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thank you soo much Omanla,

can u please tell me one more thing ,

that wht should i write in a letter ,  to inform them about my issue

again i tell u my english is not good ,

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i want to tell u my all details first
my appeal has been allowed in jan 2007, and 2 months have been passed but still waiting for a visa from embassy.
i called to embassy in my country so they told me that we hve not received determination letter yet.

now how can i get my visa ,  and my classes will be started from end of next month,

please write an application with request that i can send to them ,
plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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thanks for your help ,

Why would a British born citizen have to wait for over a year to get a British passport?

On what ground do I have to wait for over one year just because I want to return to my country of birth?   

baba_jee

That five/six-line letter was specially composed for you, all you have to do is slot in the judge's name and the date the decision was sent to you.

Sorry I am not technologically savvy, otherwise would have sent a "cut and paste" one to you personally, via your email address. I have a faint recollection of what my email address is, but never know what my password is. I also tried to listen to the recording you attached but chickened out once some "real" thing flashed on my screen.
 
I was force-fed Cobol, Fortran and such claptrap in 1989, at a tender age of nine for six solid years, hence the reason I can no longer stomach anything to do with computers.