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nferyn (m)
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it only shows that using your Christianity as a reason to condemn homosexuality is utterly meaningless
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prettyH (f)
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@nferyn, u ain't a believer thats for sure. I haven't condemned anybody. What i believe in is my buz and no one else's
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BabyCakes (f)
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Oh me gosh! I thought being gay was just a myth!!  Who are you kidding?? if you come out of the closet (like R.kelly) you will end up regretting being hasty! Take your time and think about it CAREFULLY!! because once its out, it can't go back! p.s I know some ladies that can UN-Gay you if you want!!!  |
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larger_20 (m)
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Oh me gosh! I thought being gay was just a myth!! Who are you kidding?? if you come out of the closet (like R.kelly) you will end up regretting being hasty! Take your time and think about it CAREFULLY!! because once its out, it can't go back! p.s I know some ladies that can UN-Gay you if you want!!! Haha un-gay? I havent heard of that word before..also what u mean by R-kelly? Is he gay? |
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damygurl (f)
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she was referring to his song Trapped in da closet. that song rocks!!!
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icingbaby (f)
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R.kelly is not gay, she is talking about his song trap in the closet.
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lekan2311 (m)
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I bet the Girl will go Crazy once she hears You are a Gay.. Please don't tell her.
Moreso, being a Gay doesn't stop You from being a family Man. You will have your Kids and live your life bigly. since You are not an Impotent.
I advise You tell nobody but if You insist on telling somebody,that should be your Dad or your closest Brother(Immidiate one)
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larger_20 (m)
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I bet the Girl will go Crazy once she hears You are a Gay.. Please don't tell her.
Moreso, being a Gay doesn't stop You from being a family Man. You will have your Kids and live your life bigly. since You are not an Impotent.
I advise You tell nobody but if You insist on telling somebody,that should be your Dad or your closest Brother(Immidiate one)
I am glad u did'nt mention mom....usually they will freak out and cause trouble to u and to their health..maybe High BP |
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cammy (f)
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hey u need to tell your girlfriend goodbye. talk to your parents and if they don't accept u for who u are then they didnt realy love u. nigerian morality is so annoying. i bet u they'll tell u that you're being influenced by the western world. just try to be your self. you're a sucessful person if u parents decied not to be your family after u tell them your secreat then i suggest u start your own family. its not going to be easy but you can try.
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ed (m)
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The words of Jesus are pretty clear:
but whosoever looketh upon a woman to lust after her has commited adultery with her in his heart already. And following verses in the 'sermon on the mount' . The author of theses words is God, the word become flesh, the son of man, the Holy One as you know.
What do these words mean ?
The evil of man is devised in his own heart, created by his own desires. Here it focuses on the eros of man. The word adultery in greek is moichea which means to urinate on.
From this two comments:
Your own desire creates your action to lie with another man. The Lord teaches in strict and unmistaken terms. You give in to your lust, you are not with Him. Are you now proving the Lord to be wrong - because I lust, it must be right, no matter what the Lord teaches ??
Jesus continues and if your right eye offends thee cut it out and cast it from thee, for it is better for thee ... than that your whole body is cast into hell. What do you want to argue with Him about ?
The teaching regards all of us, including the ones here that advertise to be 'normal' to have 'fun with the babes'. You may remember that the bible also says, don't you know that you become one flesh with the harlot ... This means that if you are intimate with a woman you become one flesh with her, literally. So 'fun with the babes' is as wrong as lying with a man in the eyes of God.
If you think you can live a happy life doing things that the Lord teaches you not to do - that would make Jesus a liar and that will never be. You only want to tell your parents because you want their legitimation. Forget about it, God has already taught you the answer, there is no legitimation. Whatever your parents say, it will not change the verses above. Your girl friend you do not love, because you do not love Christ more than yourself, so how do you want to love her - no, no, you love yourself all the way.
What does Jesus say - learn from me for I am lowly and meek, and I will give peace unto your soul. So be lowly and meek, meaning do not follow your own heart's desire but the teaching of the Lord. Because His teaching is the ultimate love and His sacrifice is the proof of His love for you, a love that surpasses all understanding.
Fill in the gaps in my train of thought, please, I hope the message can be understood. I do not fear your sexual activities any more than adultery or 'having fun with the babes'; the problem is, while it brings pleasure, it is all contrary to God's words and in the end it is destructive and you will not 'live' unless you acknowledge God. For myself, the 'babes' are utterly attractive - compliments to you - but at the same time the word of the Lord cautions me and is my guidance. May I fail, yes possible, will I say it was right , no.
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larger_20 (m)
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she was referring to his song Trapped in da closet. that song rocks!!!
Haha un-gay? I havent heard of that word before..also what u mean by R-kelly? Is he gay?
Hmm thanks any way i can get the song from yah?  |
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Eddy Tells (m)
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Na wao  |
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seeker (m)
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Feel very sorry for tDave's predicament, although he's apparently found the wisdom and courage to handle his situation from this forum. That is not bad at all.
Since the homophobes failed woefully to defend their position, I'D like the other camp to help me understand.
Are people really born gay? A corrolary to that question is, is there scientific( genetic/DNA) proof? Please if you honestly have "proof" let me know where to access it.
My feeling is that we (science ) doesn't know for sure. We can only continue to be tolerant of people who are "different".
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Scorpio (f)
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Nobody on planet earth is/was born gay..it's more of the individual's choice.
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seeker (m)
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In fact, I found something myself. Be confused, be very confused   |
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mingiix
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Having gone through every post in this thread, I could only come up with one logical conclusion. WE NIGERIANS ARE A BUNCH OF SAINTS AND ANGELS.
1.Our holier than thou attitude has placed us amongst the richest nations in the world.
2.90% of us are sin free.( we also do not partake in premarital sex which is a lesser evil in the Nigerian God's eyes. Hence the extremely low incidence of STDS and HIV amongst my fellow countrymen)
3.Tdave is the only gay man in naija. The open gay market on sanyaolu st in kano and and the thousands of their patrons i saw as a kid in the 80s were all foreigners pretending to be nigerians.
PART 2 NEXT WEEK
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damygurl (f)
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i love your appoach!
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Instantly (m)
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I am absolutely disgusted when I hear things like "homosexuality is a choice". Is it really? How would you know!? Have you ever been down that path? Do you have ANY idea what it is like?! Do you SERIOUSLY think that I woke up one day and said, "Gee... I feel like being gay"??
If you seriously think all the gays in the world chose to be like that then you're VERY naïve. You seriously must have a very narrow-minded view of everything. I'm also appauled that with such little knowledge on the subject you DARE give your opinion! It's because of people like you that there is war. These deluded opinions you all have are completely irrelevant because you have NO idea what it is like to be gay. You should all feel ashamed calling homosexuality a sin or a choice as clearly it is not! Your awful opinions should be disregarded by everyone as should any opinion without base and logical reason to back it up. Never EVER give an opinion that could hurt others again if you don't have logic and knowledge.
Also, seeing as that was totally off topic lol... here's my answer to the question:
I don't think you should take anyone's opinion in here of when to come out to your parents. Asking a bunch of strangers really isn't going to help you. When you feel the time is right you should tell your parents but only when you decide to. Don't let someone else decide for you - EVER.
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thelastdon (m)
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Whether your gay or not, your Lesbian or not.. u can't get the real thing.. I mean the sweetness.... and I don't think homos can make heaven.. so whenever I hear about Homos.. I still have the hope I can make heaven.... Stop deceiving yourself and the whole world.. its unfair. if I were your father and I get to know about it.. the truth is I wil kill you instantly and maybe even kill myself because I hate homos.. I am talking from my own experience.. because here in US.... them plenty and I still got many invitations from then......( I will scan them and ask if Seun would let me post them or not so u people can c most of the men in the US) As for the girl.... let her go... don't tell your family because they may have my kind of traits in them.... Once more.. be careful... should incase I come accross you here in the states and I noticed u're a Nigerian... Men.... I might get u shot.. dts it.. haba..... u go put your manhood for another man anus.. abi no be so.... wts the world even turning into........ well Nigeria.. its time.. lets wipe all these nonsense away like we are battling against polio..... Imagine it, the world fact book has it that upto 3.6 million pppl are living with HIV/AIDS as in year 2003's estimation... Americans are always feeling somehow anytime I tell them am from Nigeria except for those that knows my family here........ I have been bottlling this idea since, but thank God its friday anyway, do whatever you like    |
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allonym
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Whether your gay or not, your Lesbian or not.. u can't get the real thing.. I mean the sweetness.... and I don't think homos can make heaven.. so whenever I hear about Homos.. I still have the hope I can make heaven.... Stop deceiving yourself and the whole world.. its unfair. if I were your father and I get to know about it.. the truth is I wil kill you instantly and maybe even kill myself because I hate homos.. I am talking from my own experience.. because here in US.... them plenty and I still got many invitations from then......( I will scan them and ask if Seun would let me post them or not so u people can c most of the men in the US) As for the girl.... let her go... don't tell your family because they may have my kind of traits in them.... Once more.. be careful... should incase I come accross you here in the states and I noticed u're a Nigerian... Men.... I might get u shot.. dts it.. haba..... u go put your manhood for another man anus.. abi no be so.... wts the world even turning into........ well Nigeria.. its time.. lets wipe all these nonsense away like we are battling against polio..... Imagine it, the world fact book has it that upto 3.6 million pppl are living with HIV/AIDS as in year 2003's estimation... Americans are always feeling somehow anytime I tell them am from Nigeria except for those that knows my family here........ I have been bottlling this idea since, but thank God its friday anyway, do whatever you like He HATES homosexuals and will kill them if given a chance and himself. . but, he thanks God it is Friday. .. This idiot aside, I challenge any person who says homosexuality is wrong based on the teachings of the bible to show me why slavery is wrong even though the bible CLEARLY SUPPORTS it. I seriously challenge you. I double. .no triple dare you. How come people are so quick to open their mouth and spout out things but cannot make a half hearted defense of their faith? For those who are able to respond to this, tell me, why is it you can justify your position that slavery is wrong, CONTRARY to what the bible CLEARLY states while advocating that homosexuality is wrong? There are lots more passages in the bible which can be cited in support of slavery than there is against homosexuality. In fact, there are hundreds if not more verses in the bible that directly support slavery, less than 10 which directly are against homosexuality. If I get halfway decent response to this post, I will give an offering of $100 the upcoming sunday at church. Otherwise, i'll just contribute my usual tithe. So, christians, I dare you to respond! |
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WesleyanA (f)
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He HATES homosexuals and will kill them if given a chance and himself. . but, he thanks God it is Friday. ..
This idiot aside, I challenge any person who says homosexuality is wrong based on the teachings of the bible to show me why slavery is wrong even though the bible CLEARLY SUPPORTS it. I seriously challenge you. I double. .no triple dare you. How come people are so quick to open their mouth and spout out things but cannot make a half hearted defense of their faith?
If I get halfway decent response to this post, I will give an offering of $100 the upcoming sunday at church. Otherwise, i'll just contribute my usual tithe. So, christians, I dare you to respond!
THANK YOU ALLONYM!!! the bible even supports racism and incest. what's right in the eyes of people yesterday might be wrong in our eyes and what's wrong in our eyes might be totally just in the eyes of people that will live tomorrow. that's just life. i wouldn't advice anyone to dig the graves and start following rules created for 5000BC. slavery was clearly just then. even Nigerians practive a more subtle form of slavery (housegirl/houseboy) today. we know slavery is wrong and in the future probably, the act of housegirl e.t.c will be frowned upon. so, the bible's NOT always right/ perfect. even though it may contain more right than wrong. |
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thelastdon (m)
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The Bible: You don't know about me and you tlking as if u know anything about me
allonym: How? I don't understand you,please
The Bible: You see, Dont you know am a two edged sword and can cut in and out, that is
readers can use me for both evil and good.
allonym: So, wts the best thing to do
The Bible: You see, u can't satisfy anyone, be it mortal or immortal.... but theres a reward for
those who uses the Bible for Good.
HOMOSEXUALITY is not a good thing......... CHikeena
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ijebuman (m)
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The Bible: You don't know about me and you tlking as if u know anything about me
allonym: How? I don't understand you,please
The Bible: You see, Dont you know am a two edged sword and can cut in and out, that is
readers can use me for both evil and good.
allonym: So, wts the best thing to do
The Bible: You see, u can't satisfy anyone, be it mortal or immortal.... but theres a reward for
those who uses the Bible for Good.
HOMOSEXUALITY is not a good thing......... CHikeena
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yakubu
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Any act of Homosexuality and lisbianism is immoral and abormition to the whole humanities and degradation of human image.
Morally speaking act of Gay or for what ever name u will call it according to the religiuos view point wether its christianity or islam such an act is offence.
PLs tells your families the truth.
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thelastdon (m)
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Any act of Homosexuality and lisbianism is immoral and abormition to the whole humanities and degradation of human image.
Morally speaking act of Gay or for what ever name u will call it according to the religiuos view point wether its christianity or islam such an act is offence.
PLs tells your families the truth.
Thank you me bros, tell them make them hear well well |
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nferyn (m)
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The battle of the bullies.... what happened to argumentation? Shouting down people is so much easier, isn't it?
And please do't talk about morality if you can't even put a decent argument in writing.
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Atide (f)
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As a gay woman who has been through the coming out process my advice is to only tell your family when you are truely ready. It's not advisable to try to live a lie, it's slow death. But when you do come out, please be ready for whatever the consequences may be. One thing you must do now is break up with your girlfriend, whether you tell her why is up to you. Good luck and give me a shout if and when you move to London- I'll introduce you to the scene Happy new year all  |
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WesleyanA (f)
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The last don, you have issues. funny & pathetic ones. welcome to Nairaland Atide , (at least i'll give you a welcome before you get a portion of fierce preaching from the "holy" ones of the land) |
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allonym
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The Bible: You don't know about me and you tlking as if u know anything about me
allonym: How? I don't understand you,please
The Bible: You see, Dont you know am a two edged sword and can cut in and out, that is
readers can use me for both evil and good.
allonym: So, wts the best thing to do
The Bible: You see, u can't satisfy anyone, be it mortal or immortal.... but theres a reward for
those who uses the Bible for Good.
HOMOSEXUALITY is not a good thing......... CHikeena
StrangeI can agree with everything in this post (assuming I'm actually ignorant of the bible. . which I'm not) except the last line. There is no support for that statement in the post. . . its like pork or a rider being added to a national healthcare bill in the US congress - someone has something good, and then people add their own BS in their hoping it'll go through and nobody will notice. Any act of Homosexuality and lisbianism is immoral and abormition to the whole humanities and degradation of human image.
Morally speaking act of Gay or for what ever name u will call it according to the religiuos view point wether its christianity or islam such an act is offence.
PLs tells your families the truth.
This is what my other post is addressing, while I can agree that the bible seems to be against this, it also supports other things which we now say are wrong. This points to the bible being used to enforce cultural mores of the day, not just being an avenue of God's word. So, I'm still waiting for how people make the distinction between slavery being wrong (contrary to the bible) and homosexuality being wrong (not contrary). |
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