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nferyn (m)
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NOW I'm ANGRY !!!  REALLY ANGRY.. SEE WHAT ALL YA F@#KING GAY AS CAUSED, i tell people i like a guy, next thingy, they think I'm gay.. aint that rubbish.. you guys be ready for my blast 2mrow right now gat go home If it contains as much substance as your previous attempts, it will probably be a murky pool of contaminated water, but I'm hopeful. Maybe you can bring something of substance to the debate
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nddy (m)
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guys zoom it down
First of all this gay guy deserves to be stoned to death, why would you try to jeopardise the life of the girl. If you knew you were gay , why live in denial ? Secondly , do the whole world a favor by telling your parents you are Gay, when i mean dio the world a favor , i mean let people know your sexual orietation. Telling your parents would be a number one step to you being openly gay. ( not closet)
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damygurl (f)
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NOW I'm ANGRY !!!  REALLY ANGRY.. SEE WHAT ALL YA F@#KING GAY AS CAUSED, i tell people i like a guy, next thingy, they think I'm gay.. aint that rubbish.. you guys be ready for my blast 2mrow right now gat go home blast? can't wait!!!!
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WesleyanA (f)
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NOW I'm ANGRY !!!  REALLY ANGRY.. SEE WHAT ALL YA F@#KING GAY AS CAUSED, i tell people i like a guy, next thingy, they think I'm gay.. aint that rubbish.. you guys be ready for my blast 2mrow right now gat go home hahahahhahahbuhahahaha ROFLMAO!!!!!!  you crazy hypocrite. you're sure tyrese is your kind of man?
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Swish (m)
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hey hey...not trying to be a mediator here but knock it with all the words flying back and forth...tdave jus asked for some advice
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sweetnini (f)
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my advice is that don't tell your girlfriend just break up with her but if she insist that u should tell herwhy ur breaking up with her then tell her
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nddy (m)
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why ?
please that advice is not the solution , Mr Gay tell the girl that you are Gay.
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timmy (m)
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@wes and nferyn, y'all are rubbish heads and you both so dumb especially wes.. you suck for someone who claims to know so much about been gehi.. :x now i know what it could mean to be dumb as in really dumb, u guys had better change your names to dumb(nferyn) and dumber(weslyana) and k2dac should be dumbest(just taught i should add that) Since when did liking a guy makes you a MF GAY.. so if i like my dad, i'm gay.. my kid bro, I'm gay.. I love God, am also gay... duurrr!! so what about MFM(male f#@king male) who don't call them selfs gay... you guys were screaming, typing and calling me names(ignoramous, biggot et all) who sound very ignorant now.. you ofcourse... being silly, dumb or gay is not by birth its a choice. to make matters worse you all silly dumb gays (or gay lovers, what ever), just hide you fingers in shame and don't come typing rubbish on this thread.. tell tdave to go to oblivion.. this world is not for him and he's likes and likers.. if u @nferyn is trying to impress tdave finking he'll pm you for a date, u'D better forget it because he's an african american and don't think he'll be going for a white a$$sh@le with a cury face like you..  .. @weslyMF, for a 15yr old girl, your surly on the wrong part of life.. you to young to be set for an early doom, i think the world still has a lot to offer you.. get a life and live strong I'm so sure you have excess brain drain, but not to wry with God up there anyfin can happen look out for a cure soon.. SAMF's
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ijebuman (m)
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@timmy Throwing around personal insults and the likes is not the way to go. Everyone has their own opinions and views. We need to treat all people with respect and dignity regardless of race, ethnic back ground and sexuality.
The views you've expressed in your post is no different from the views expressed by white supremacists like Klu Klux Klan towards blacks.....
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nferyn (m)
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@wes and nferyn, y'all are rubbish heads and you both so dumb especially wes.. you suck for someone who claims to know so much about been gehi.. :x now i know what it could mean to be dumb as in really dumb, u guys had better change your names to dumb(nferyn) and dumber(weslyana) and k2dac should be dumbest(just taught i should add that)
Timmy, I'm going to give it one last attempt to stay civil. Something you are obviously not capable of. The only thing I have done in this thread is called you on the facts. I have asked you to show some ground or basis for your beliefs. In the absence of a factual basis for your belief, you are ignorant, no matter how you want to twist and turn it. From what you have shown on this thread (and obviously I do not have any deeper insight in your mind),I cannot really appreciate your intelligence. In fact dumb is probably too kind a wording for your level of neural activity, unless of course all of that activity takes place in your reptilian brain. This evidence is fully consistent with the behaviour you have shown here on this thread, but I will withold my conclusions until further evidence pops up. Too small a sample to draw conclusions. Since when did liking a guy makes you a MF GAY.. so if i like my dad, i'm gay.. my kid bro, I'm gay.. I love God, am also gay... duurrr!! so what about MFM(male f#@king male) who don't call them selfs gay... you guys were screaming, typing and calling me names(ignoramous, biggot et all) who sound very ignorant now.. you ofcourse...
The only one that gave you these names is you. What we did is label it with the correct descriptions. I first thought you were only ignorant because you knew very little about gays or homosexuality. Now I'm positively convinced you're a biggot, as you do not want to learn but rather reinforce your previously held stereotypes in spite of the evidence to the contrary being silly, dumb or gay is not by birth its a choice. to make matters worse you all silly dumb gays (or gay lovers, what ever), just hide you fingers in shame and don't come typing rubbish on this thread.. tell tdave to go to oblivion.. this world is not for him and he's likes and likers..
1. Show me the evidence that people are gay by choice 2. Show me the evidence that people are dumb by choice (or maybe you have done that already) 3. There is absolutely no need for shame whatsoever. Only ignorant bigots need to shame themselves. 4. Hate, hate, hate, hate..... that's all you have shown us here if u @nferyn is trying to impress tdave finking he'll pm you for a date, u'D better forget it because he's an african american and don't think he'll be going for a white a$$sh@le with a cury face like you..  .. I'm happily married, thank you. You better retract that racist insult and appologise. Your behaviour is completely against the forum rules and only shows your lack of basic manners.
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timmy (m)
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ooh now i got to yab, and I'm the one breaking forum rules  .. yeah right... any ways watever..
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nferyn (m)
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ooh now i got to yab, and I'm the one breaking forum rules  .. yeah right... any ways watever.. You just don't get it do you? Where did I make a non factual statement about you? Calling you an ignorant biggot is no insult. It's a correct description of your behaviour on this thread. I've given you ample opportunity to prove I'm wrong. I've even explicitly said that I withold judgment. Now, I urge you to retract your insult.
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sacha (f)
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tdave darling I was really touched by your post- I think anybody reading it must realize how difficult it is to be gay and 'come out' to the world, unless they are totally insensitive or bigoted (see what I mean moi?) You are a step forward in being happy, by accepting who you are and thinking about the consequences of your orientation. Only you know your parents and their likely reactions if you tell them. But even if you suspect it might be a negative one, do you want to continue living a lie? Pretending to have an interest in women? As to those on this thread who suggest you get married to maintain appearances, that is complete NONSENSE and a sure recipe for disaster: more lies, deceit and hurt for all concerned. What is so powerful in your post is that your feeling 'liberated' by your coming is so tangible, and it feels right for you. You are finally yourself, and I would say to the God Fearing Brigade that if homosexuality is so wrong, why did god create homosexuals? A lot of gay people KNOW that they're gay from childhood, so how do you work that one out?? And why do you have to define homosexuality simply through the sexual practices at play? If god is all about love, then 2 people who love each other are as valid and worthy of respect as straights. Anyway tdave, back to you and your dilemma: life is too short to be constantly depressed and repressed, and inasmuch as I appreciate you having to take into consideration other people in your life, you can only be true to yourself. Oh, and when you come to London, give me a shout, we'll hang out in Soho! 
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WesleyanA (f)
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@wes and nferyn, y'all are rubbish heads and you both so dumb especially wes.. you suck for someone who claims to know so much about been gehi.. :x now i know what it could mean to be dumb as in really dumb, u guys had better change your names to dumb(nferyn) and dumber(weslyana) and k2dac should be dumbest(just taught i should add that) It's immature to use words you have no idea about just for the purpose of showing off. Just so you know, "dumb" is the word i'm referring to. i know. Since when did liking a guy makes you a MF GAY.. so if i like my dad, i'm gay.. my kid bro, I'm gay.. I love God, am also gay... duurrr!! so what about MFM(male f#@king male) who don't call them selfs gay... you guys were screaming, typing and calling me names(ignoramous, biggot et all) who sound very ignorant now.. you ofcourse... That comment you made about Tdave liking his dad is what i used back on you. So it offended you right ? Now you know how it feels to do that to others. not like tdave reads your posts anyways. . tis tis tis. being silly, dumb or gay is not by birth its a choice. to make matters worse you all silly dumb gays (or gay lovers, what ever), just hide you fingers in shame and don't come typing rubbish on this thread.. tell tdave to go to oblivion.. this world is not for him and he's likes and likers.. Why don't you kneel by your bed and pray to God to eliminate homosexuals from the surface of the earth because you feel you have the right to decide who stays and who doesn't. Greed, vanity, hatred and hubris will only bring you to a downfall. We are only trying to make you understand that this world is very diverse. And as i said earlier,you should learn to acceptive of others regardless of race, gender, age, culture, sexual orientation, disability or backgroud. it doesn't mean you have to agree with others opinion. just treat them with respect as you would also like to be respected!. if u @nferyn is trying to impress tdave finking he'll pm you for a date, u'D better forget it because he's an african american and don't think he'll be going for a white a$$sh@le with a cury face like you..  .. You're racist too?  @weslyMF, for a 15yr old girl, your surly on the wrong part of life.. you to young to be set for an early doom, i think the world still has a lot to offer you.. get a life and live strong I'm so sure you have excess brain drain, but not to wry with God up there anyfin can happen look out for a cure soon.. SAMF's you just had to take your time to write me a paragraph. I feel so special  anyways, that advice about kneeling on your bedside and asking God for whatever you want instead of bringing your case here will help . Don't bother us with your weirdness, bother God with it. 
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nddy (m)
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Guys zoom it down. No need to quarrel over this issue. Timmy chill , everyone chill. This is not something to start throwing curse words all around. Guys one more time Zoom it down. All i want to say that this Gay guy should be spanked for Jeopardising the life of the girl. I feel for her.
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Seun (m)
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Let's try to be civil here. Much of the discourse on this thread is off-topic and unhelpful to the original poster who just wanted some advice.
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WesleyanA (f)
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it's okay. me and timmy are cool now  where is Tdave by the ways  . . .
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ijebuman (m)
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where is Tdave by the ways  . . . you expect the poor guy to post again with the 'response' his post generated
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Scorpio (f)
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well, this is just the tip of the iceberg if his parents don't accept him, so he had better get used to people sayin stuff about his choice and keep us updated jo.
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tdave (m)
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To all those who have given constructive advice - thank you. I appreciate it.
To those who showed uncommon understanding and empathy - please keep shining your light, love conquers all.
To the homophobes - good luck!
Update:
I didn't pay much attention to the hateful posts. I have learned that hatred and mean-spiritedness reflects more on the one doing the hating, than on the hated. I have come a long way in this 26 short years. God has granted me uncommon success, blessed me with fantastic family and friends and has connected me in high places. If being gay in my one big cross, I am willing to bear it gracefully and without shame. All my life I have tried to be a good person - if that's not enough to make me a human being, fine. I am lucky to have those who love me unconditionally. No haters are going to get me down or make me ashamed.
I am not putting my girlfriend at risk. I have never cheated on her and even then, I ALWAYS use a condom, without fail (just in the very unlikely case that I got something before we started dating). I love her more than I have ever loved anyone and she loves me too. We're going to have a conversation soon about my attraction to both sexes. Hopefully, our love will survive the coming storm.
Much love to you all.
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icingbaby (f)
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that is so sweet tdave, you almost make me cry when i was reading what you wrote. i just want to say good luck in talking to your girl, i pray she understand. 
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Scorpio (f)
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goodluck aiight.
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mamba (m)
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@tdave, since you say you love your girl so much, i guess you might have to make the ultimate sacrifice of becoming straight just for her.. i believe in you and know you can do this for her sake because love conquers all.
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timmy (m)
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tdave, tdave  , where on earth have you been? well its all cool to read from you  I guess you finally got it right this time.. i feel you should just let it on with your girlfriend and let time tell with your parents... discuss the issue with them but act or more like tell them your story is not you but a friend, which ever way they react would give you a better idea on how to handle them.. your girl should be okay, but really i feel you should just make it a bit more civil with her.. as in don't tell her how much you actually feel as a gay.. But i still feel you should marry her and hide your acts and immotions. good thing God as being good to you.. Sorry bout all my homophobic posts.. just do what you have to do.. G-LUCK 
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nddy (m)
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Timmy, no disrespect , what is fun in being Gay? and when did you realise you were Gay ? I personally am a gay Hater. I hate gay people but its your duty as a gay Dude to try to educate us the haters and lets us know why you believe in it. That is somethin you should work on not attcking back.
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WesleyanA (f)
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tdave, tdave  , where on earth have you been? well its all cool to read from you  I guess you finally got it right this time.. i feel you should just let it on with your girlfriend and let time tell with your parents... discuss the issue with them but act or more like tell them your story is not you but a friend, which ever way they react would give you a better idea on how to handle them.. your girl should be okay, but really i feel you should just make it a bit more civil with her.. as in don't tell her how much you actually feel as a gay.. But i still feel you should marry her and hide your acts and immotions. good thing God as being good to you.. Sorry bout all my homophobic posts.. just do what you have to do.. G-LUCK  i knew you were nice. Timmy!  and yeah,. . goodluck to Tdave. nice speech he made. 
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Oracle (m)
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well i believe ur a nigerian and if that be the case don't even dare tell ur parents when u tell nigerian parents that kind of news BOY! u'll regret it as for the girl just look 4 a way to end the relationship use diplomacy and don't tell her itz because ur gay. if u do she'll be so broken hearted that she'll tell ur family u wudnt want that to happen would u? so just avoid her and start behaving harsh to her she might just leave you
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prettyH (f)
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@ tdave Really am happy for u. Didn't think the hateful posts were really aimed at hurting u. But all the same i hope things work out well for the best. Take kare 
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alheri (f)
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well tdave am glad youve decided to talk to your girl and if she decides to continue with the relationship then i quess youre one lucky guy. You guys can then go ahead and have an open marriage relationship. And you will become one of those few who can actually eat their cake and still have it. ;)Goodluck in sorting things out.
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allonym
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People have brought up many things. . . misinformed things in this thread. .
1) If being gay is ok, why is it hidden?
Well, let me answer with this. After Jesus' death, the early christians went into hiding. They were being persecuted and/or killed for openly revealing their beliefs. Only as the christians won LEGAL authority to practice their religion did it move out into the open.
2) In nature, everything is male-female.
Seahorses don't follow the traditional definition of male female roles and there is a certain fish that can switch from being male to female if the numbers of females in the population is low.
3) It is ok to hate people who are homosexual (or different).
Its so amusing to watch christians contradict their religion by openly advocating their hatred of homosexuals. In any case, there is little justification for hatred of anyone. There are of course exceptions, Hitler comes to mind.
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It seems to me that one can group "sins" into four categories -
a) Something that causes physical harm to another person or yourself b) Something that causes emotional harm to another person or yourself c) Something that causes mental harm to another person or yourself d) A thought that if carried out will result in a, b, or c.
Being homosexual does not infringe on any of those. Therefore, it cannot be a sin.
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