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kingzy (m)
Schooling In Usa
« on: November 21, 2006, 11:26 AM »

How possible is it for someone to come to USA with a student (masters) visa to defer the admission for one year and work,  then apply for readmission. Please our friends out there, are people under this category classified as legal or illega foreigners?
Hotstepper (f)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #1 on: November 21, 2006, 04:13 PM »

i don't think if u come with a student visa and you're not going to school, that u will be allowed to work, guess you're allowed 2 work only if you're in school, people in da US, let us know
Omonla (f)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #2 on: November 22, 2006, 03:31 AM »

Hello,

You will not be allowed to work off-campus until the completion of at least, your first semester, when you enter the US. on a student visa. This is because it takes about 90 to 120 days to process the'"Optional Practical Training"application (for graduate students), which the school will sign for you in order for Immigration to grant permission to work off campus. Also, if you want to work off-campus, it must be in an area related to your major/degree.

If you want to work on-campus (or off campus, after your first semester), you must obtain a social security number first. The school should be able to provide you with a form or letter that you will take to the Social Security Services office (they have various branches in every city). The number will be useful for you when you try to obtain a driver's license, or any job, or file taxes etc. You can't do a lot of things without a SSN (if you are going to be legal, that is).

Hotstepper (f)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #3 on: November 22, 2006, 03:46 PM »

Omonla, u just described that of Canada, I don't think in da STATES, int. students r allowed 2 work off campusss, I think it is only in Canada that they are allowed and it is after 2 full academic semesters and even your grades matters as well
Omonla (f)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #4 on: November 23, 2006, 04:44 AM »

Hey Hotstepper,

Actually, international students are allowed to work off-campus in the States once they are approved for what is called 'Curricular Practical Training' (undergrads) or Optional Practical Training' (Grads). I did off-campus work/internships related to my major through CPT and OPT approval while I was in school.
kingzy (m)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #5 on: November 23, 2006, 02:04 PM »

what if u decides not  to school again, can u still get the SSN for other things?
kingzy (m)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #6 on: November 23, 2006, 02:07 PM »

what if u decide not  to school again, can u still get the SSN for other things and how?
Omonla (f)
Re: Schooling In Usa
« #7 on: November 24, 2006, 04:32 AM »

No, if you go to the States on a student visa, you can't "decide" not to continue schooling (well, unless you graduate). The other option to leave school without completing the program would be to obtain a working visa, otherwise known as H1B. You would have to find an employer that is willing to file the visa for you/sponsor you. However, without a degree, it's nearly impossible to get such work, because you would fall under the "unskilled workers" category - Unless you already have a degree now, with a lot of experience that a US. employer would find valuable. Or if no degree, at least extensive experience.

"Specialty" jobs where there is usually a demand for employees in the US. are: computer science, health care, university teaching, engineering, law, accounting, financial analysis, management consulting, architecture and scientific research positions. (There is a lot of competition to get those H1B jobs because the visa quota is about 65,000 per year). 

If you fall 'out of status' by leaving school without switching to another type of visa that will keep you legal in the US., the SSN will not help you to do much. This means you can't get a real job with your SSN unless you get a working visa first. You can buy a car, open a bank account, buy a house etc with the SSN, but the mortgage/home-loan lenders, car dealerships etc would not deal with you if you can't show a source of income. The banks would probably do business with you, but you would need to have money to deposit first, right?

Well, the bottom line is, staying in the US. without going to school or without a legal job is 'sufferhead'.
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