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naija_diva (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #192 on: April 30, 2007, 10:28 PM »

@ topic

the reason why i perm my hair is not because i want to be white or whatever but because its easy to get a comb through it. i'll go natural if u buy me a new comb everyday.
omoge (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #193 on: May 01, 2007, 01:08 PM »

@spoilt and everyone,

thank you for your idea sisters  Wink
shango (m)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #194 on: May 12, 2007, 07:51 AM »

weaves are disgusting. Better to go bald than attach dead hair to your scalp. Uggh
viee (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #195 on: May 12, 2007, 12:02 PM »

Quote from: shango on May 12, 2007, 07:51 AM
weaves are disgusting. Better to go bald than attach dead hair to your scalp. Uggh

my dear its all about looking good!
whatever makes one look great, I'm all for it
after all, looking good is good business! Wink
Ollie39
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #196 on: May 12, 2007, 12:03 PM »

To keep it manageable. The afro hair in its natural state is kinky and therefore difficult and painful to comb.
whiteroses (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #197 on: May 17, 2007, 10:54 AM »

because unrelaxed hair for most people is nappy and ugly and hard to manage actually its not beautiful it's pressed and nappy but you can say its strong thick and healthy and wouldn't fall of
bdaf (m)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #198 on: May 17, 2007, 11:55 AM »

 Huh
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #199 on: May 20, 2007, 03:37 AM »

Quote from: whiteroses on May 17, 2007, 10:54 AM
because unrelaxed hair for most people is nappy and ugly and hard to manage actually its not beautiful it's pressed and nappy but you can say its strong thick and healthy and wouldn't fall of

you're wrong on all counts.

 unrelaxed hair is not ugly. depending on what your standard of beauty is. But if you're following an european/ white beauty standard, we blacks will always fall on the shorter end because we resemble them the least. esp west africans.
I don't follow a white beauty standard as you probably can tell and i wear my natural hair with pride.

most people believe natural hair is hard to manage. well, i say this is true depending on how you want to style your hair. Just as it is harder for whites to keep braids and many african styles, It also certainly is harder for africans and blacks in general to try to force/comb their nappy hair straight. It won't happen sorry. learn to love your hair for what it is and not fight it.
keep the relaxer if you can't.

nappy hair is far from "strong and thick," literally. It's actually the most vulnerable of all hair type because of the stress from it being really coiled up. it is also the finest of all hair types but again, the really coiled shape makes it appear to be very thick (which i love  Cool).
but, natural hair certainly is stronger and thicker than chemically over processed (i.e relaxed) hair. if you want weak hair, get a relaxerand get some more relaxer and get some more on top of that.  Kiss Kiss Kiss

natural hair can and certainly WILL fall off if you don't take care of it
ie combing it 10 times a day even though your hair is begging you to keep the comb off. lol
not mosturizing it regularly. our hair needs maximum moisture. the coiled shape makes it harder for oil from the scalp to flow up to the tips.
etc










feyi apata (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #200 on: May 24, 2007, 02:30 PM »

i am really sure d person who asked the question is a guy. for a girl, it is not easy to keep natural hair. it tangles, not easy to comb and it is not always attractive. my hair is d full, hard and spongy type. if it was natural, i would have to tie a scarf on it just for it to go down. our weather does not support our hair.so,   
salsera (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #201 on: May 24, 2007, 08:02 PM »

@feyi_apata
did you read the last say, 6 pages

please read and educate yourself Wink
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #202 on: May 25, 2007, 03:10 AM »

Quote from: salsera on May 24, 2007, 08:02 PM
@feyi_apata
did you read the last say, 6 pages

please read and educate yourself Wink

I LOVE YOU  Kiss
@feyi_apata, in addition to reading the last 6 pages, you can also check out this other thread:


[url]http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-45142.0.html
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spoilt (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #203 on: May 25, 2007, 04:29 AM »

all said and done,  nappy hair is difficult to manage.
saying that doesnt mean you arent proud to be a black woman. it just means our hair is difficult to manage. simple.
all these guys talking here have never had a full head of natural hair. only at most one inch. so how can they know what the heck it is like running a comb through an afro nappy and taming it for work?  Grin
omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #204 on: May 25, 2007, 04:31 AM »

so once u put hair cream in ur hair is it considered natural ?
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #205 on: May 26, 2007, 02:47 PM »

Quote from: spoilt on May 25, 2007, 04:29 AM
all said and done,  nappy hair is difficult to manage.
 saying that doesnt mean you arent proud to be a black woman. it just means our hair is difficult to manage. simple.


there are only two reasons i can imagine that natural hair is difficult to manage:

1)we don't have companies dedicated to providing for the care of natural hair. ex when you go to the stores, there's pretty much nothing except for a tiny little section of an aisle (if it's there at all) dedicated to women who have natural hair. majority of what you'll see are relaxers and gels for black women etc
if only we had just a quarter of what whites hair care industry has.

2) we think that managing natural hair means trying to make it appear as straight as possible.
of course this will be difficult. our hair is far from being straight.

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all these guys talking here have never had a full head of natural hair. only at most one inch. so how can they know what the heck it is like running a comb through an afro nappy and taming it for work?  Grin

nope. I have 6 inches of natural hair and growing (i've been natural for only a year and about 4 mnths) i'm keeping my hair natural for the rest of my life.
visit nappturality to see pics of full headed natural women.
i don't comb my hair often because my hair hates the comb. i wash it, twist it, leave it on for a day and take my twists out. or i braid it.

If we disrespect our hair, there's no way other people are going to respect it. If all black women decide to go natural in the US, who dares say that we'll need to "tame" it for work? or make it look as much as possible as white women's hair texture.

like i said visit this thread for some pics
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-45142.0.html

there are so much more pics but i don't want to post people's pics w/o their permission so i might have to paint their faces out etc. i'll post pics once i do that.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #206 on: May 26, 2007, 02:52 PM »

Quote from: omogenaija on May 25, 2007, 04:31 AM
so once u put hair cream in your hair is it considered natural ?

as long as this "hair cream" doesn't contain chemicals that permanently alters the texture of your hair.
sisimose (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #207 on: May 26, 2007, 03:02 PM »

wesleyana hiya
men you are brave, is it really easy to keep natural hair? i may just try it.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #208 on: May 26, 2007, 03:49 PM »

it requires being brave is all i can tell you. esp. if you don't have support from anyone.

@sisimose, it is  easy to keep natural hair if all the women around you have natural hair. but if all of them including your friends etc have relaxed hair, then it will be difficult. 
most of my friends are non-black so it was easier for me. and three of few black friends i have have natural hair. it was really easy for me 'cause it made me proud to have my hair. that God didn't make a mistake creating my hair.
the only difficult part was finding hair products made for natural hair. but i found nappturality.com so i got even a larger support system for my hair( like most women with natural hair). lol

it's also easier if you yourself like the idea of natural hair. I've loved to have my hair natural since i was little. i got a perm and my cousin didn't. at first i was happy but when my hair started to fall out and hers was still growing, healthy and full, i made up my mind from a young age that i'll never relax my hair again when i was old enough. but i did 'cause i wasn't brave enough until i turned almost 16. i used extension braids to transition though. i was growing my natural hair underneath and relaxed hair on top until the natural hair was long enough for me to cut off  all the relaxed hair. i wore braids though out that period.

from what i heard though, the first year is the hardest. once you get past the first year of going natural, it's usually easier to keep the journey going.

sorry for the long post. lol (i feel like a natural hair representative now. j/k)


 

sisimose (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #209 on: May 31, 2007, 08:10 PM »

thanks  so much WesleyAna Smiley
you have a very good point about the friends thing, because i normally go to the hairdressers with my best friend, and it would be odd to break from that tradition of all those pressing and relaxing business. But i may be able to convince her, anyways i am going to have to go natural now, i have no choice as my present condition demands it. Presently i am rocking braids , so may be i will just stick to that to help the transition, i really do want to go natural.

Just how do you style your hair daily? I am not a fan of locks,  what would you recommend in way of hair care products to acheive healthy and clean looking afro?

WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #210 on: June 02, 2007, 09:07 PM »

i won't advice you to try to convince your friends just yet. they'll think you're crazy or something. just say you like a change if they ask you or give weird looks.
maybe after a year or two when they themselves start complimenting your lenght, fullness, then hint it at them. lol

yeah, rock the braids till your natural hair is long enough for you too cut off all your perms (about 6 months or so. more or less depending on what you're comfortable with). or you can try twists with extensions. etc


anyways, for starters, get a moisturizer (in form of hair lotion or oil). it should have no grease.
some people recommend castor oil and shea butter. either one or both is fine.

also, don't wash your hair everyday (it'll leave your hair dry but you need moisture). once a week or less is fine. Conditioning your hair should be the priority. use conditioner A LOT.

never attempt to comb out your afro unless it's quite damp or moisturized.
combing is also easier after a twist out or braid out.

more importantly visit nappturality.com
for transitioners.

[url]http://www.nappturality.com/forum/index.php?s=0cb9c269202a3ae77e2b7dfcaff60b72&showforum=4
[/url]

just overall, take a look at the site.



(i'm not a fan of locks on women either lol)
i'll post a pic of my hair soon. it's not that long yet because it's only been a year and a couple of months and i made mistakes when i first started 'cause i didn't get any help.  but i've learned (and still learning)and it's fuller and healthier than when i was relaxed.

I love you so much for your bravery sisimose.   Smiley
i feel supported.

trust me, you won't regret it even though you'll have some moments when you're frustrated (but when you think about it, you'll find out that you probably were more frustrated with a relaxer)
sisimose (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #211 on: June 03, 2007, 12:05 AM »

 :)oh thanks a million  WesleyAna. I am definitely going to do it. wow that site i have added to my favorites thanks a million, didn't know such existed.
you know what? lol  i have just saved all the tips you wrote down here , and named it ''back my roots by wes '' lol, corny right Grin anyway thanks a lot. When i say i am sick of all the relaxing and crap i am sick. thankfully I was given naturally long hair so i should be fine. No going back now thanks again Kiss
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #212 on: June 04, 2007, 03:27 AM »

i wore my hair in an afro today and made my bro take a pic. i would have posted it if you were online.

sisimose (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #213 on: June 04, 2007, 11:52 PM »

ah! please darling don't post any of your picture on line please, not while we have mad people running around this place,   Again thanks so much. Did you have to go shape it , cut it into the afro style? sorry luvie i will so bother you with questions, bet you wishing you never posted Tongue Grin. see ya Smiley
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #214 on: June 23, 2007, 06:50 AM »

no i just combed it out and used an headband in front.  (or sometimes i braid the front and the rest is an afro.)
i just used my hand to make it go into place. good thing natural hair is elastic/ shrinks and stretches. I just push it down wherever it's pointing out and stretch it out wherever it's shrunk up.
I don't know how to explain. lol
salsera (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #215 on: June 23, 2007, 11:45 PM »

are u really in naija


and r u really 17 Shocked


what hair products do you use and where do u buy them from
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #216 on: June 24, 2007, 12:00 AM »

no i'm not in naija. but i wish i was in naija though.
yeah. I'll be 18 next year.   Tongue Cheesy lol

I braid my hair most of the time and don't use much products
but i always make sure that i moisturize my hair w/ hair lotion (no grease)

i currently use sulfur8 moisturizing hair lotion and Organic leave-in spray.

i condition my hair after i take out braids with Organic replenishing pak conditioner.

Conditioner is really good for dry hair. It just makes everything soft and healthy.

I'm not in naija so i don't really know what products there are over there.


omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #217 on: June 24, 2007, 12:04 AM »

@ salsera
i think i've seen an ad in a naija film for a beauty store and they had organic hair products ,  organic is really good

but make sure u buy the original b/c i just got some hair things from naija and they don't look authentic  Embarrassed
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #218 on: June 24, 2007, 12:08 AM »

wow. Nigerian stores have it too? i didn't know that but that's good.

yeah. organic is awesome. i love the brand.
omoge (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #219 on: June 24, 2007, 04:42 PM »

my hair is still in natural state. not that soft, not that hard. i use Pink Oil light on it. i shampoo and condition with Mane and Tail once in 2weeks.
daily, i use pink oil and cover with shower cap before shower. after shower, i just comb it and leave it like that. it looks okay.

still looking for somewhere to braid at a good price. all the saloon i have been to all charging 95 for corn row. the senegal lady who does hair in her home also asked for same amount for plain corn row. nah! won't pay such. so i just comb and leave it. when it's scatter, i just wet my hands and rub my hair and then it soft a bit for combing.
ikamefa (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #220 on: June 24, 2007, 04:44 PM »

Quote from: omoge on June 24, 2007, 04:42 PM
my hair is still in natural state. not that soft, not that hard. i use Pink Oil light on it. i shampoo and condition with Mane and Tail once in 2weeks.
daily, i use pink oil and cover with shower cap before shower. after shower, i just comb it and leave it like that. it looks okay.

still looking for somewhere to braid at a good price. all the saloon i have been to all charging 95 for corn row. the senegal lady who does hair in her home also asked for same amount for plain corn row. nah! won't pay such. so i just comb and leave it. when it's scatter, i just wet my hands and rub my hair and then it soft a bit for combing.

 Shocked na wah oh  Cheesy
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #221 on: June 24, 2007, 04:49 PM »

wow that's damn expensive. cornrow shouldnt be more than $40-$50.
omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #222 on: June 24, 2007, 08:06 PM »

@ omoge i hope u mean 95 naira  Tongue
those cornrows better last 4 months -- looking brand new to pay $95

when i use to do corn rows my friend would do it for me for $10 and some chinese food
and i had crazy designs  Cool
omoge (f)
Re: Why Do Women Of African Descent Relax/perm Their Beautiful Hair
« #223 on: June 24, 2007, 08:36 PM »

i wish it was my sister  Grin yes 95!! na so i see am o. i have had to go around but it seems they all had meetings lol to name same price. all the senegalese ppls. funny one lady asked me to name a price i told her 45 lol she was like 45? i said yes because you asked me to name a price, she shouted what?? lol i said yeah! and she added ''excuse me with attitude  Grin'' i said well 95 for corn row? puleez. she was working at her sister's and from ny. so i said ok i will let u know what i decides and drove off. her sister called me on my way and said her sister whom i met in the salon was crying, that she is tired of having people come in and leave. so she asked me to come do it for like 75. i said will think about it. never went back. ha!! it's too much.

just had a Nigeria lady on campus and she had corn row in attachment. i asked her who did it and where, said another Nigeria lady for 70. i just smile. kind of funny what's going on.

i saw a lady at a flea market she braids. i told her i wanted a shade Adu like style. she said 120. that she will do it for like 7hrs. i was like what? these style i have been doing in the past don't take 3hrs to do. me just leave. i need my bucks to shop for summer lol  Grin

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