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comp.geek (m)
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Hi everyone, Please please N please I dont know what to do. I had N174,800 withdrawn from my U.B.A account in bits. ( Apparently it was by an ATM card) but my ATM card didnt go missing, I stay alone and I have different pins for all my 3-ATM cards. I reported to the bank and they said I should give them 10-working days which I did and now they declined my plea. Please I dont know whom to turn to. The mini-statement I got from the ATM machine on the 9th of August showed that money was withdrawn on the 10th of August. WHen I got to the bank on the 10th, they said all weekend transactions are dated on the first working day of the week. PLEASE HELP!!!!  Anyone please!! 
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candylips (m)
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hmm this is serious o 
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SMSguru (m)
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My brother, the situation you are in now is an unfortunate one but I don't think there's anything the bank can do about it.  Wonders will never cease! 
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GboGboAye
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i dont think u should give up like dat. Push for answers. The bank has an obligation to u, the client. If u can, take the police with u to threaten to arrest the manager. I swear. Deactivate your card and get another one. uj must have used it in a atm machine that had a copier that fraudsters put in there. The way to tellif the card receiver is fake is when it moves when u put your card in it.
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donsilas (m)
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I know someone who lost over a million naira frm ATM fraud. I advise u dnt leave more than 15k in your account. Put the balance in Fixed Deposit - no matter the rate so far as you are just safeguarding your money. Collect the Phone number of your Account Officer in the branch. Call Him/Her when you are on your way to the bank to Liquidate the Fixed Deposit. I'm telling you guys what i do. I CAN'T STAND LOSING A KOBO - Imagine getting a debit alert of N10k when one is on Third Mainland Bridge that u just bought Plaintain Chips in Silverbird galleria of The Palms!  Be Wise Nairalanders! God Bless us all! And may He save us from Fraudsters!
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dinggle
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I have said it before Nigerians should revert to the old sch of paper checks or withdraw slip, see what ATM card has caused u! because if 419ers dont steal from u, bank insiders will especially now that they CBN is after them. Until banks will guarrantee insurance repayment for ATM fraud i will stick with paper check syndrome.
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MrCrackles (m)
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Poster Looks like your bank card has been cloned and used to withdraw funds from your account Take it up to the bank and see what options are available They should be able to refund it if it was fraudulent! U wont get any help here so you need to speak to your bank Goodluck
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Dynamiq (m)
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Hello all. It is a very sad news and it seems to be all over the place. I have experienced it twice at Bank PHB and they end up never refunding my money. What I have done to resolve it is to stop using ATM card. My own investigation reveals, rather sadly, that unknown to many Nigerians, ATM technology in Nigeria is still bedevilled with many important flaws and loopholes but the banks will give you the impression that they have perfected it. It all boils down to one thing: while making the withdrawal of cash faster and more convenient, ATM compromises the safety of your money as its safety is no longer totally within the apparently more guaranteed security system of your bank. And so this gives the banks the excuse to blame other factors that are external for the lose of your money. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong, but it seems to me that many banks now capitalise on this to avoid accepting responsibilty for these growing incidents of loss of money from people's account. If you are still using ATM and nothing has happened to your money, you are simply being lucky, because in the process of trying to find 'better' banks, I discovered that many customers of other banks complain the same thing. I know many people who got into this mess even while using the ATM machines domiciled in the bank branch where they opened their accounts, so it is not a guarantee!!! We just have to accept that we in Nigeria have not yet gotten to the promised land as far as ATM technology is concerned, and if you take into consideration the fact that these sorry incidents have dramatically increased since the inception of ATM technology in Nigeria, people who are so used to the use of ATM need not be told what to do now.
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otokx (m)
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Use your ATM cards in the ATM machines of the bank branch your account is domiciled.
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kshow1 (m)
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Why are you guys jumping into conclusion . What if the guy is trying to defraud himself by withdrawing or sending someone to withdraw on his behalf and now claiming there was a fraudulent withdrawal from his account via ATM.
Let us think outside the box.
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Cooleasy
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As a banker and having seen the different views, I must confess that Dynamiq's analysis is realistic and to a large extent it speaks the truth of the situation, which most of us in the sector may officially not admit. Our sister banks all record such problems in their logs but the seriousness varies from bank to bank, but banks are really working hard to make sure that it becomes a thing of the past. It will become a thing of the past in the not too distant future. Share my optimism. Shalom!
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Seun (m)
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Close all your accounts with them and let them know the reason for it.
They should at least be able to supply you with a picture of the person that withdrew your cash.
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Rikimaru
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CALM DOWN!! BREATH!!! Don't worry, the same thing happened to a family member of mine. You will still get your money back. First thing you need to do is deposit 3 letters, one letter with EFCC, one letter with CBN, and one letter with your bank. Explaining everything in detail of what happened. Eventually, if they cannot catch the crook, they will still pay you your money. This has happend to my father several times and he always regained his money back. Ummmmm, but in my situation the crooks withdrew money with false checks that's why it was so easy to catch the idiots, if they used an atm with a cloned card, it might be a little more complicated.
Let us know when you get your money back.
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larryshow4 (m)
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@poster and all other NL.
Your card has been "cloned card". I read into that and discovered that what they (ATM FRAUDERS) do is stay close to you while you using your ATM card and they get to study your PIN and they need to know the bank you using the ATM card, they already know the other numbers and i guess they need the last 6 or 7 number, not too sure, so for you that print your receipt copy and drop it on the floor. Bad for you. and also with the expiring date, they have a machine that clones the card and they have a copy of that kind of card. Once the Card is Slinde though the machine, it reads all info on that card to the Cloned card and they take this to ATM machine far away from where they stay and withdrew your money. That simple. But there is only one Solution for now. Go to your bank and get the New ATM that has the "VISA" Logo on it. That can't be cloned for now cause its a SIM like form. unlike the old ones. for those of you that are still using the old Kind. Don't let people get close to you at the ATM machine and always take away your Receipt. I really wish your bank can do something about this but i am 80% sure they can't do anything.
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galatico (m)
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Chei!!! E bi like say I go go withdraw all my money for UBA account I no want story!!!
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kauza
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i think uba need to work on their softwares,its really a pity that these hackers have also gotten into their sms alert stuff.i sometimes get an sms alert that their is a deposit into my account and when i get to the bank ,i get to find out that it isnt so.
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beewhyfocs (m)
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Im still wondering if this claim is true. It sounds someone is cooking up something for casual discuss. I dont think you will loose such money without making proper complain that can repay your money back.
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oge4real (f)
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Although I dont like UBA, I know that this ATM fraud is not only peculiar to them.
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axeman85 (m)
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@poster
sorry to hear that its very sad to hear
and those that are asking if it is true or not. yes it is true in countries like the uk all you have to do is go to the bak branch and query it and they will give you a form to fill out and immediately you are refunded back your money and the bank will query it by looking at cctv footages of the cash point becos all points has cctv in the uk, so its easy to identify who took paymnets but in nigeeria thats not the case. its all just pathetic. i have told my wife not to use my card in any atm if she does and my money goes missing, she will refund it. lol
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George_D (m)
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you seem to be a victim of atm fraud. sorry about this but you can still get your money back by following the proper channels through your bank customer complaints desk.
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axeman85 (m)
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even if he compalines to the complaints desk nothing will be done and even if something is done it will take time and you must keep hounding them or else they wont even look at your comlain.
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ichommy
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chei god ooo i just dont know why i hate UBA so much  rubbish UBA KO ABU NI
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Donvilo (m)
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Na only baba God knows wetin happen for dat money. 
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Sam Milla (m)
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why 3 ATM cards for one bank account? what are your chances of securing their pin numbers from everybody that stays around you? I hardly believe you anyway no hard feelings
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rickie4us (m)
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well, Nigerians are very innovative people. I learnt that there are some people whose jobs now is to look for the number of the ATM Card and expiry date. One strategy they use is that , they queue up behind u when you are trying to withdraw money with your ATM Card. They try to spy the last few digits of your card and the expiry so that they can clone another one. Also, if you are unlucky, they get to know your PIN no since it is just 4 digits by watching the sequence of the numbers you press on the ATM. So, my advice is that you should never allow anyone see your card, the number and the expiration date, especially your PIN. It is really easy to clone ATM Cards. My advice also goes to the guys that want to impress their girlfriends by giving them their ATM cards to make withdrawals. They may have some of these yahoo yahoo boys as friends and give them your card details and PIN no and your money will just disappear. So, the bank is not to blame in many of these cases. Thirdly, there has been some phony sites coming up especially fake MTN websites. These fraudsters send you a text message saying that you have won 1million naira and that you should enter some details in their website. Of course, the text message is sent in such a way that you will believe it is from MTN since they will use the MTN ID to send you the text message. I have received such phony text messages and of course, I knew they were fake. They directed me to yellofifa.com , The site opened and it was very similar to the regular mtnonline.com , what was different about it was that when you click on any link, it takes you back to the home page. Well, they asked me for some details like the winning code that was sent to me and my phone number. I put in those and they said congratulations, my number is confirmed. They also asked me for more details like my bank account so that they can pay money in. I gave them fake names and fake bank account and then, I was taken to another page again for another verification of my ATM card , they need my ATM no, expiry date and pin to confirm that I am real and not a fraudulent person who wants to steal another person's money , Anybody here in nairaland who has had a similar experience? , waiting for your response all ,
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emmajaci
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Every one should switch to verve cards. if u are still using the magnetic stripe atm cards, you are prone to atm fraud. Demand that your banks switch to verve cards as mandated by cbn. We should commend INTERCONTINENTAL BANK, SKYE BANK, F.C.M.B that have already complied.
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Igwe.
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Close all your accounts with them and let them know the reason for it.
They should at least be able to supply you with a picture of the person that withdrew your cash.
That makes little sense, but come to think of it, are all the ATM machines equipped with security cameras?
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A-town (m)
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Karma's a fcuking bitch aint it. When Nigerians were defrauding the west, using credit cards to order shit over the internet, people claimed ignorance Now Nigerians are being defrauded and we're now making noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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pizonewave
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Well i understand your grief, and its quite sad. but if your claims are genuine, then your case can be solved quite easily. the ATM machine is equipped with devices that can trace every transaction done on it and by whom. also from your bank statements it can be revealed which ATM machines all your money was withdrawn from. so my dear, UBA can still do alot in verifing your claims and taking action vis a vis reversals. always remember that your funds/deposits are supposed to be covered by NDIC in a case of theft. Good Luck!
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Chrisbenogor (m)
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Karma's a fcuking bitch aint it. When Nigerians were defrauding the west, using credit cards to order shit over the internet, people claimed ignorance Now Nigerians are being defrauded and we're now making noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats bull crap if you aint got nothing to say shut it!!
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