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WesleyanA (f)
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Haha give me a fucking break. You do not find Northerners here because they have raped and pillaged Nigeria to the point that they do not NEED to come to the States, and the ones that are poor lack the means and capacity to find their way to the West for opportunities. Its like asking why you do not find Saudi Arabians in the states or in other western countries. When a group is responsible for the bulk of theft in a country and has a stranglehold on a nation ofcourse they have no reason to find their way to other countries. Why are you guys hating on your Hausa brethren? We all know that the northern part of Nigeria is influenced by the middle east while the southern parts are more influenced by Europe that's why there's the discrepancy between the two in education, mainstream (nigerian tv, media and whatnot is more influenced by the west so i understand why the north are not partaking in it as much as the south. it's not because hausas are dumb but because they're less "english") Why would hausas migrate to western countries? That's like asking for death. Do you know what muslims are facing in european nations? it's just like asking what an Iraqian man and an american man have in common (George bush and war). So yeah, it makes far way more sense for you to find Hausas in Saudi Arabia than the US. And we all know that many Nairaland users are based in the western countries (us,uk e.t.c). Even seun lives in Ogun state. If nairaland had been created by an hausa man in kaduna with hausa members in the middle east i don't think any igbos or yorubas will be here either. Yeah Hausas aren't the wole soyinka, achebe type? so what? these people studied in the us, uk. When i was a lot younger (10), I had two best friends, one was hausa and the other was igbo (i'm yoruba) and i never knew the reason why they hated each other so much and fought over the dumbest things! this site pretty much has opened my eyes to why. especially with 925's posts. stuff like this won't make Nigeria become any better. No, the Hausas aren't dumb. yeah they don't read European books and they aren't expert with the European ways and system like the South but that doesn't make them dumb if not, why do they keep controling Nigerian Govt. Maybe they know how to do it Saddam Hussein style?  (j/k). lol Yeah they're different than us (geography, influences, weather, culture, religion) but so what. Bigotry is when you can't accept others for their differences. I think tribe/the whole thing ought to be eliminated. Maybe if there's no such thing as "i'm yoruba "i'm hausa" "i'm igbo" then Nigeria will be one. even the whole i'm muslim, christian thing ouught to be kept to yourselves for the time being. just don't teach your kids to hate (my ex best friends were probably influenced by the discussions going on in their homes? lol) "Divided we fall" reminds me so much of Nigeria. lol I don't know all the Nigerian tribalistic history and civil war stuff but anyways. funny how some posts on this thread by Yorubas&Igbos against Hausas read just like European books/articles against Africa. like my dad will say "we hate ourselves too much and it's killing us" |
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superman (m)
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WesleyanA
thats a big lie of 21st century! i think there are lots of muslem people here in london who what are u talkin about! why can't people be straight for god sake, next u hear them sayin superman na mad man, because I'm mad depends on what u define as madness?i got my definition of my own madness.
history has shown the hausas are blood suckers we know, no politics attached, plain truth, now lets not use white man as an excuses. over here in london there are even mosque and churches built on the same street, now wonder if that can be done in the north as well.
now aboki malam bro whatever u are please no disrespect learn to accommodate one naija for good because history aint on urside. u can't just come of ur mosque went on rampage killing and things, thats no good my friend, thats dnt mean I'm scared of yall but thats not what nigeria need now my friend and i wonder why these malam arent in the forum!
mmmmmhhhhh think!blame white man now.
hmmm still thinkin emmm one nigeria hmmmm no malam in this forum hmmmm
we get there nonesenseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
no excuses for any evil act
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WesleyanA (f)
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yeah but are those muslims hausas? yeah there are muslims in London but you of all people should know they're not living in enjoyment or comfort there. so why should hausas bother to move to London when they can emigrate to the middle east that's more welcoming and approving of them? history has shown the hausas are blood suckers we know, no politics attached, plain truth, I don't know. history has shown us many things. including the fact that evil and good abound in all races and ethnicities. I wouldn't go about saying that because Adolf Hitler was a german, therefore all germans (past and present day) are evil. I also wouldn't go about saying that because Ghandi was good, therefore all indians are good. |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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I had two best friends, one was hausa and the other was igbo (i'm yoruba) and i never knew the reason why they hated each other so much and fought over the dumbest things! this site pretty much has opened my eyes to why.
especially with 925's posts.
stuff like this won't make Nigeria become any better. That is very munificent of you to make mention of my posts, the point is that my views are indelible [you can't do nothing about it] and at the same time undeniable and pellucid, I read all the things you wrote and did not bother to quote them because to me they are just a bunch of illusive views meant solely for cosmetic purposes, am unfortunately not a beautitian but a realist, If you want to face realities you would chose to do so, cause I made my self as palpable as possible, If you had any relation or friends slaughtered by the Islamo fascist morons in the North your views wont be as over simplistic as it tends to appear now, my views were not educed from unnecessary malicious satisfaction in the misfortune of others, they are just brutally true, an honest person would have no choice but to accede, but you didn't get it and I can't help you. |
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WesleyanA (f)
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I get it. you've had bad experiences with them, I've had good experiences. so we have different views and i totally understand |
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davidylan (m)
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"Divided we fall" reminds me so much of Nigeria. lol
I don't know all the Nigerian tribalistic history and civil war stuff but anyways. Exactly why i did not bother to do more than glance through your pointless post. Nigeria's tribal history goes beyond mere "hating your hausa brethren", it predates the colonial era. - Did you know that but for the hausa Nigeria would have gained independence well before 1960? - Did you know why the british used the divide and rule tactics for the north and direct rule in the south? - Did you know the major reason Nigeria was amalgamated in 1914 was basically for financial reasons? - Are you aware of the real history behind the civil war between 1966 and 1970? Were you aware of what was then known as the "progrom"? Like 9to5 said, if you had a relative or friend who lost family during incessant religiopolitical crisis in the north, you wont be putting up such lame arguments. I had a friend who lost virtually everything they had worked for more than 20yrs during the crisis in Kaduna!!! They were lucky to escape with their lives! |
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WesleyanA (f)
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yadi yadi yada. mr david.
read my post above yours.
you can continue bashing the hausas now. i'm out.
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davidylan (m)
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I read the post mss i too know. It basically said one thing: i know absolutely nothing about what i'm talking about!
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WesleyanA (f)
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you haven't said what you wanted the elimination of all hausa people from the surface of the earth? Hausas are cool. at least the ones i've been friends with. what would you do if you were forced to have an hausa man as your roommate? lol  |
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davidylan (m)
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you haven't said what you wanted the elimination of all hausa people from the surface of the earth?Hausas are cool. at least the ones i've been friends with. what would you do if you were forced to have an hausa man as your roommate? lol keep persisting with your false presumptions. You have only had hausa friends, i lived there for ONE solid year. I lectured briefly in a college where 90% of my students were hausa. They were the nicest students i ever taught despite the fact that it took us a few weeks to adjust to getting along with each other. When you get down to knowing them, they can be the most fun people you would ever meet. I still fondly remember my time there till today. If you have cared to read beyond the topic of the thread, one thing is consistently clear, the "problem" is not about hausas AS INDIVIDUALS but with the common hausa attitude that is epitomised by their leaders who pretend to speak for the whole region! It is a problem of regional politics gone wrong and not with us wanting to kill all hausas. |
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Donzman (m)
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Davidylan, the statement concerning independence prior to 1960 is a half-truth. Here is a better appraisal of the situation bro. and some of the underdevelopment problems still persist. I saw the write-up on another site so I decided to use it instead of using mine. When the young Enahoro moved the motion for self rule in 1953, Sardauna led his northern people out of the Parliament in protest. His action was not unpatriotic but that of realistic principle. Between 1922 and 1946, The Southern Protectorate was governed by constitution and act of parliament while the Northern protectorate was governed by proclamations. They were behind the South in terms of educational advancement, and to Ahmadu Bello, getting independence in 1953 was ill timed because it would place the north at a disadvantage. He went with his people back to the north. Realizing that they cannot break away from the South for the fact that they depend on the sea as the north is a Sahara desert. They will need our sea for shipping. The idea of regional government with a weak center came up. We have Premiers in the West, East and North and a Prime Minister at the center. The regions were autonomous.
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WesleyanA (f)
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keep persisting with your false presumptions.
You have only had hausa friends, i lived there for ONE solid year. I lectured briefly in a college where 90% of my students were hausa. They were the nicest students i ever taught despite the fact that it took us a few weeks to adjust to getting along with each other. When you get down to knowing them, they can be the most fun people you would ever meet. I still fondly remember my time there till today.
If you have cared to read beyond the topic of the thread, one thing is consistently clear, the "problem" is not about hausas AS INDIVIDUALS but with the common hausa attitude that is epitomised by their leaders who pretend to speak for the whole region! It is a problem of regional politics gone wrong and not with us wanting to kill all hausas.
In that case, you didn't know what I was talking about! I was referring to 925 who thinks all hausas are barbaric 'animals' due to the experience he had and i understand. good thing you know better. you have problems with their leadership/politics. now, that's understandable |
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davidylan (m)
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@ Donzman
We are both saying the same thing. I was refering to that quote you posted in the single line i made. We would have had independence earlier but for the north. The reasons why the north refused independence are still with us today and are some of the reasons why we are so rich and yet to so poor. Because some only see wealth in one word "OIL"! Till today the north is still parasitically dependent on the south not just for access to the sea but access to unearned wealth via oil money.
It is the reason agriculture is in shambles, our mining industry is in the hands of charlatans and we know nothing more than "sharing" the national cake.
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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In that case, you didn't know what I was talking about!
I was referring to 925 who thinks all hausas are barbaric 'animals' due to the experience he had and i understand.
good thing you know better. Are you just indigent in corgitation or are your views driven by heavy amount of ignorance or a gangantic level of selfishness that you can't feel other people's problems, don't make yourself a paladin of things you don't even have a full grasp of, I 've not experienced northern religious riots but many of us has seen when dead bodies were transported back to the east as a result of Northern phsycotic religious fall outs, and mind you the problem with the north is not Muslim religion, because we equally have Yoruba's who are Muslims and at the same time are civilized, my best Yoruba friend is a Muslim, the problem is that the north and the south are not consanguineous, the Housas are Arabs and that is why they can kill anybody that's not and to crown it all not a Muslim, that they assume is the crescendo. you have problems with their leadership/politics. now, that's understandable. there leadership are not solely to blame, their problem is an inherent problem, how can you explain the Hausa culture of going about with daga [ short knife], that does not negate the fact that they are blood thirsty gworo teeth wastrels. |
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laudate
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Ee-ya!It's no more gutter language, cheap puerile insults,nonsense, subjective claims!It's the era of grand-standing and cheap cliches!Wow!Hmm!We really have come a long way in improvements!Laureate i have told you before keep posting you might say something intelligent for once and it's rather sad that you have really nothing to say but resort to cheap funnies! . Constipation of facts, ignorance and mischief have surmised your posts, all of them.Or should i use another gutter word-paucity of facts
What really is your problem? You started by lacing all your responses with insults, and now that someone responds to you in kind, you get all hot & bothered under the collar. Why? You don't like the taste of your own rude medicine? Pity. There is no need for the unpleasant remarks, though. We all know you cannot disagree politely with those who do not share your viewpoints, so you have to resort to petty name-calling, in order to register your displeasure. Everyone has noticed that you have a habit of cutting & pasting all Laudate's responses into one page, before you can muster enough strength to reply to the issues at hand. Keep it up. You obviously get a kick from it. So what's new? Guess its' time to leave you in your fantasy world, where you can take more pot-shots at those Emirs who do not want to have anything to do with the Yorubas, because in your view it is a cardinal sin to jettison a Yoruba name. It is so sad to see that such things leave you emotionally disturbed. , (Yawn), Ah, there are more interesting things that deserve my attention, ! |
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lewa (m)
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Laureate or whatever you call yourself-you really must read your fleeting posts at times!We all can see that you have nothing to say about the issues at hand, no proof to substantiate the hand- me -down fallacies, misconceptions and propaganda that you take your cue from!
Lest you forget, you could read again my various rejoinders to your manic posts-i happen to reply each jaundiced
view of yours and if you indeed feel paranoid about that then take a long walk down the pier!
The issue of anyone rejecting a name,or of scholarships given to a certain people or of chieftancy rights have been well elucidated in my posts and it's rather unfortunate as usual that your only bulwark again is to resort to clutching the air. You have nothing really to say. had nothing really to contribute originally and it's rather not surprising!This is the www as you know and we all can see who really has something to say and what spews benightedness and know- nothingisms!Again please post more, the nadir of your mindless self is just about revealing itself!
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paddy_lo (m)
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The few Hausa's i met who are educated,were quite cool and were much into the western lifestyle(hip-hop,dressing and so on). . . though the girls used to cover up in daytime,but then once its night time they would wear jeans and other types of revealling clothingi doubt that they go around killing people. . but the uneducated ones,that are used by politicians,thats the problem.
Now Hausa is just one tribe in the North by the way,we have people from jos,benue,kogi,kwara,maiduguri,kaduna,and so on who are not hausaanyway them northern girls are fine shano lie.one love.
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white`Nkem (f)
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maybe they'r not the majority, but some are really good people; the most honest man(and that's a rare thing) I've met is a hausa.
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superman (m)
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baby where about u from in iboland
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white`Nkem (f)
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@superman
Am not igbo, just got a nice igbo name; I am Romanian.
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superman (m)
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so how do u get to know about narialand
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white`Nkem (f)
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from a friend
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superman (m)
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what, in ur country
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white`Nkem (f)
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yes, in my country!
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mamaput (f)
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Paddy any Arab girl from an educated family dresses well under her caftan.
Sometimes their shoe alone can pay your rent.
That someone dresses hip hop or is educated dose not make the person he or she is.
western lifestyle my ass Even Kofi Annan swallows Eba at home
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JosBoy4Lif (m)
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The fact that southerners hate there brethren serves as a disadvantage.
Ah well I guess that is why even amongst tribes in the south there is division
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lewa (m)
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Are u saying that there's no division amongst tribes in the north too?
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lewa (m)
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josbobo! |
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JosBoy4Lif (m)
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lewawa how far?  |
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JosBoy4Lif (m)
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Are u saying that there's no division amongst tribes in the north too?
Not to the same magnitude, and the intertibal divisions are way more prominant in the north |
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tng (f)
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@ topic
So what? Southerners are quick to denigrate the north on the misfortunes of Nigeria may be because they held power for the longest time. True, but they werent alone. They all had southerners in their cabinet nd others looking for one or two thigs in govt.So the looting of Nigeria is by all nd not of one section.
What has the average southerner contributed to the Nigerian project?
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