The Hausas Want To Control Oil; Igbos Want To Own Lagos. What Does Yoruba Want?

Thats good Beaf. Yes please and encourage other truth seekers as well to get it direct. Thats Great you did that!

Tunde and MANY ILORIN Kwarans, feel they are fulani and but speak yoruba (Northerners)

"Is anybody aware that Tunde Idiagbon was a Fulani? Indeed, he was. Two Fulanis (head of state and his deputy) once ruled Nigeria!"

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/warticles/who_owns_kano_ilorin_and_the_cri.htm

"Formerly a predominantly Yoruba town, Ilorin is now a multiethnic city, harboring, among others, Hausa and Fulani settlers from northern Nigeria. "The city of Ilorin, grew in importance in the early nineteenth century as a frontier emirate of the Sokoto Caliphate (in Northern Nigeria), and amassed a large population of slaves. Control of this slave population was of enormous importance to the city elite" (188). Historically, the Hausa-Fulani took control of Ilorin during the nineteenth-century era of the Islamic (Fulani) jihad or holy war, hence a strong influence of Islam arose there."
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-515949_ITM

you like lying to yourself

There are many people who speak yoruba but aren't yoruba

Fulanis in the north took hausas', land and language why not do the same to Yorubas?
 
THERE IS NO OBA OF ILORIN, ITS ONLY EMIR OF ILORIN, THAT IS PART OF THE SOKOTO CALIPHATE!!!!

One thing i hate is when someone is wrong and they just can't admit it. You tellin me there no fulanis that speak yoruba is like saying there is no yorubas that speak hausa(which many do) or there is no ijaws who speak igbo(which many do) it all depends on regions.

Oduduwa is no myth. The climbing or descending from heaven is allegoricalanot to be taken literally as one descending a flight of steps suspended from heaven to earth. He was by no means disembarking a UFO mothership. He descended from heaven would also mean he descended from divine origins as in the worshipping beliefs of the Kushites, where he was factually linked. The relationship between Kush and Egypt is analogous to the relationship between Ife and Bini. One came out of the other.

Bini has never denied that they were one of the seven states of Yoruba nation.

You do know there are Yoruba's living in Illorin?  Right?  You do know those Yoruba's in illorin do not see themselves as Fulani-Hausa right?  Illorin was discovered by Yoruba's but Fulani-Hausa took it from them.  That doesn't mean there aren't any Yoruba living in Illonis.

According to the website created by illorin government

Illorin contains
 YORUBA, Hausa, Fulani, etc tribes living there.
http://www.ilorin.org/tribes.php

They trade and do business in Yoruba but the language spoken in that state is Hausa
http://www.ilorin.org/languages.php

They should know about their own state alot more than anybody else. 

Anambra used to be an igala state.  it was discovered by igala's but igbo's took the state from them.  There are still Igala's in Anambra.  Anambra speaks igbo mostly and some does trading in Igala.  That doesn't mean Anambra does not have igala people living there? NO 
 Anambra tribes is igbo and igala.
Illorin tribes is Yoruba, Fulani, Gobir, Tapa/Nupe ,Baruba, Hausa etc.
(according to the illorin government).

Thank you.  I had to go research Illorin because i didn't know much about that state.   
It still goes back that Tunde Must be one of the Yoruba's in Illorin. 
I highly doubt there own government is lying that Yoruba reside there. The Yoruba's in ilorin do not see themselves as fulani. if so they wouldn't be calling themselves "Yoruba".

it is believed that alot of igbo people now-a-days weren't igbo people but another tribe that migrated to igboland. They saw themselves as igbo and started calling themselves "igbo".
http://www.qub.ac.uk/schools/SchoolofEnglish/imperial/nigeria/origins.htm

P.P.S: They speak Hausa.  They only use Yoruba to trade and do business but they speak HAUSA.  The same way, some Anambra's use Igala to trade and do business but speaks Igbo.   

Get off that High horse you fool.

I hate when people try to deny their own people.  It's sad really.  I guess Tunde didn't do a good job as vice-president that's why you are trying to deny him .

Tpia,  

You have a point there.  If Bini is an offshoot of Ife, then Lagos monarchy is by root an extension of Ife by way of Benin.  Sometimes I get Edo and Bini mixed up.  They are sometimes used interchangeably but thanks for pointing out that I should correctly identify Akinsemoyin and OlogunKutere as Bini names and not Edo.  

Akin, Akhen and Aken is the same.  Olorogun and Ologun are the same.  Akin is a Bini name and so is Olorogun.

@Beaf

Is there a detailed academic book about the Edo history that i can get and reference and study.

1. Either yorubas are lying and making up history

or

2. Edos are lying and making up history.


They both cannot be true.

How far back can Yorubas trace their own history, and how far back can Edos trace their own history.

The Lagos Dynasty followed in the footsteps of both Bini and Ife and adopted both AKIN and ADE for nobility.  It’s a hybrid of both.  But in my earlier post, I contend that the first 10 or so Kings of Lagos were named exclusively in Bini names.  You have Akinsemoyin and Akitoye. 

The Lagos title of Olorogun takes roots from the Bini adaptation and is titular First Class Chiefs in the Akarigbere White Caps. The functions is the same with the Ife adaptation except that they also have administrative titles.  So you could have a noble blood that is both heir to the throne and same time a titular Olorogun, as was the case with Ologun Kutere. 

I would appreciate if someone could help answer the following.

From the Bini version
- it is said that eklahadren left Bini to somewhere.
- how did they know where he went to.
- how did they know is new name.
- did ekalahadren leave alone or together with some other people.
- I find no connection between the old name and the new name.
- who was eklahadren's father.
- did his father also leave Bini.
- around what time did the use if the title Oba start in Bini and why.
- who are the Ogiso and why did they become replaced.
- around what time were they replaced.


From the Yoruba version,
- Is there a more detailed history of Lamurudu.
- Did Lamurudu have other children.
- Is there detailed accounts of Lamurudu from other cultures.
- Did Lamurudu and Oduduwa come to Yorubaland together or not.
- Was Oduduwa an only child or how come we have not heard of the other children of Lamurudu.
- How can we be sure the Lamurudu is Oduduwa's father.
- Around what time did the use of the title Oba start in Yorubaland and why.
- Is there an historical trace of the footsteps of Lamurudu and Oduduwa that goes back to Kush i.e. are there not supposed to be traces of their journey along the way from Kush if they actually came from Kush.

Ekaladerhan was very popular and ran away with several soldiers, friends and court staff. He and his followers founded a town in the forest far away from Benin. The town was called Iguekaladerhan (land of Ekaladerhan), that place is now called Ughoton or Gwato.

Ogiso Owodo who became the last Ogiso of Igodomigodo ascended the
throne about 1068 following the death of Ogiso Arigho his father.
Owodo had some physical defects which affected his personality and
behavior. He was a hermaphrodite with fully developed male and
female organs, which gave him conflicting emotions. (There are other
known cases in history and their behaviors brought crisis and
disaster to their people. Examples are Emperor Nero of Rome and King
Henry VIII of England (1491 - 1547). Even before his installation he
was known to have an erratic character. He had murdered his mother
and because of this known problem, his father Ogiso Arigho covered it
up. He had a secret wife Imade who bore his only son Ekaladerhan,
and did not take her into his harem until he was persuaded to do so.
He had a strong passion for his late father's senior wife Esagho and
fell under her influence. Esagho was known to be a huge woman
believed to be a witch who practiced lesbianism. In addition to
Esagho, he married ten of his father's wives, murdered two and sent
the rest packing from the palace. He also married many other women
into his harem. Owodo also committed a lot of political blunders
because of his erratic ways. From the beginning of his reign, he
failed to cultivate the required loyalty and support of the Edion
Uzama led by the Oliha. He bypassed and overruled them in the
performance of the many ritual ceremonies connected with his
installation. This made some of these ceremonies incomplete. A
glaring example was his neglect and refusal to consult the Iso
Temple. The Oliha and Edion Uzama's various attempts at bringing
Owodo into line were met with rebuff and physical assault. In one of
his fits, he is reported to have spat on the Oliha's face, though he
apologized later. The biggest problem of Owodo was the failure of his
numerous wives to bear children for him. This caused a lot of
quarrels between the wives and Owodo, before he was persuaded to
consult the oracle. Owodo sent Esagho and three men to consult on
his behalf. After consultation, the Obiro instructed that Esagho
should be executed. But Esagho bribed the three men to report that
Owodo's only child Ekaladerhan was the cause of the problem and he
should be executed. But Ekaladerhan was a powerful mystic who was
destined for greater things and could not be so easily killed. This
was known to Esagho and she secretly advised Owodo to banish
Ekaladerhan and his mother instead. Moreso, Ekaladerhan was known to
have a lot of strong allies who could destabilise Owodo's
administration. Prince Ekaladerhan and his mother were taken into
the forest and banished about 1084 A.D. But the Edion Uzama led by
the Oliha did not leave matters entirely in the hands of Ogiso Owodo,
as they were doing other things to safeguard the throne for
Ekaladerhan. For so many years after the wives of Ogiso Owodo
remained barren. He sent another team to the Obiro about 1087. This
team found out that Esagho was the cause and should be executed,
while the Ogiso should consult the Obiro. Owodo ordered the
execution of Esagho which was done, but he failed to consult Obiro as
was instructed. Due to this failure to consult the Obiro, Owodo
could not be instructed on how to atone for the abominable adulterous
acts of lesbianism coupled with sapphism which the executed Esagho
had practiced with her co-wives. Since the wives of Owodo did not
perform the atonement at the Iso temple with a bearded she-goat and
other items to the spirit of Owodo's father, they remained barren.
This greatly distressed Owodo, especially after he realised that he
has been misled into banishing his only child. He then sent soldiers
to capture and bring back Ekaladerhan from Ughoton. But the soldiers
did not return. These developments further worsened Owodo's condition
as he was always having abnormal fits. He started executing people,
especially women at random. In one of his fits in about 1091, he
executed a pregnant woman, an abominable act known as Kirikuvua.
This led to the peoples rebellion against Ogiso Owodo. They invaded
his palace, drove him out and banished him from Ile - the capital of
Igodomigodo. He fled to the village of Ihinmwirin with only three of
his old wives and nobody knows where he died in misery as a farmer.

http://www.edo-nation.net/beneko.htm

The only reason why the Edo are not all powerful over the whole of SW, SS and maybe SE today is their total destruction after they lost their war with the British (maybe we non-Edo's wouldn't be screaming "Arewa" now). The battle for Lagos between Akintoye and Kosoko was part of that war (the British supported Akintoye and Tinubu). Kosoko lost and his son Olojo ran back to Benin. The street called Lagos street in Benin contains the piece of land given to Olojo as an Edo prince. His descendants today bear the surname, Olojo.
Before the death of Akintoye, all Eleko of Eko (they were not called Oba until the 1920's 1630) were buried in Benin. Akintoye was buried in Lagos because the British insisted that Lagos was now British territory and coerced Oba Dosunmu to sign the article of annexation of Lagos.

There was only one Eleko of Eko.  Esikpa, Prince of Bini of Eweka Dynasty.  He was succeeded by Oba Ado in 1630.

"Prior to the Portuguese name of Lagos being adopted, Lagos was originally called Eko, which stems from either Oko (Yoruba: "cassava farm") or Eko ("war camp"), by its Bini conquerors. History has it that the Oba of Bini sent various trade expeditions to Ghana where spices were traded and one of his traders complained about the way she was being treated by the Awori's. The Oba of Bini then sent a trade expedition by sea. Ironically, the leader of the expedition arrived in the evening at a time when the people who were predominantly fishermen were either wading into the water or getting into their boats to gather their catch. He declined to engage them further and returned to what is now called Benin City where he reported to the Oba of Bini that they were attacked. This prompted the Oba of Bini to constitute a war expedition led by Ado Esikpa, a Bini Prince to go to Lagos and demand an explanation. This was over 650 years ago. However, on getting there, they were well received. The people were so enamored with Ado they asked him to stay and lead them. He agreed on the condition that they surrendered their sovereignty to the Oba of Bini to which they agreed. The Oba of Bini was told this and he gave his permission for the expedition to remain. The Oba of Bini later sent some of his chiefs including the Eletu Odibo, Obanikoro and others to assist Ado in the running of Eko. Till today, the Oba of Lagos is the head of all the Kings in Lagos State and his status is different from other Oba's most of whom were later given back their crowns and staff of office only within the last 40 years and have various classifications. Suffice it to state that those who got their crowns back were the original land owners. These were Olofin's children. Moreover, modern day Lagosians have so intermingled that no single tribe or people can claim it even though the predominant language is Yoruba,it continues to be a Yoruba domain. The present day Lagos state has a higher percent of this sub-group who allegedly migrated to the area from Isheri along the Ogun river