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enolase (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1056 on: May 29, 2007, 11:39 AM »

Quote from: cheexy on May 28, 2007, 10:52 PM
@all,
Please can someone tell me if he or she has been able to buy skye bank shares recently, my stockbroker has started with the "not available" story again.

Cheexy,

Skye Bank shares are too hot in the market now and are not available.

There are some things you need to know.

Shares are not warehoused. For shares to be available, you have to have people who are willing to sell.

Once no one is willing to sell, the stock is unavailable. Of course, when an investor sees that his stock has great potential for capital appreciation, what reason does he have to sell? ABSOLUTELY NONE!

That is why you need an analyst to tell you when to get into a stock in good time before the institutional investors come and clear it all up on the floor.

If you wait for the results (quarterly or full year) of a company to be released before you decide to enter a stock, then you are too late! Tongue

Good stock analysts can read the handwriting on the wall WELL AHEAD OF TIME so as to better advice on a stock pick. In essence, you have to make hay while the sun shines.

Cheers.
toyibanj (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1057 on: May 29, 2007, 02:51 PM »

Enolase
Who are the reputable stock analyst in Nigeria? Many of the brokerage firm i find don't have a strong analytical team. Most are after commission made on trades. Some recommendations would be highly appreciated.

easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1058 on: May 29, 2007, 03:22 PM »

Quote from: toyibanj on May 29, 2007, 02:51 PM
Enolase
Who are the reputable stock analyst in Nigeria? Many of the brokerage firm i find don't have a strong analytical team. Most are after commission made on trades. Some recommendations would be highly appreciated.

Allow me to vote for IBTC. They provide flawless research on their website. Dunno about customer service though. I've seen Zenith touting some strong technical analysis on the proshare website. I don't see such analysis on the Zenith website!
SavvyLanre
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1059 on: May 29, 2007, 03:35 PM »

@ Easimoni & Toyinbanj,

I have an experience with Zenith, and i can say their reports are good.
I have a friend with IBTC, and i have seen some of their reports as well - i would say on par with Zenith report. However, if we are voting,  IBTC might win hands down due to the reputation they have already and the wealth of loaded customers they have,  And, the Minimum is 10M - except if they have waivers.
BGL, i heard also have good analysts - but i haven't personally seen any of their reports and Minimum is 1M.

If you want to look at some of the middle players, check out Afrinvest - they have a fantastic reports,  i was well impressed with the quality and professionalism,  Minimum is 500K
Cashcraft, one of my friend had a poor experience with them - and the kind of person i am, you do not have to tell me twice ;-)

All, the stockbroking firm mentioned above have an online presence - and you should be able to choose among those,
K2
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1060 on: May 29, 2007, 05:06 PM »

@Enolase,  That's the crap Naija is going through because there're no market makers.  It's straight BS limiting the ability to trade a stock based on who decides to sell. Let MM be introduced, the stock hoarders could go ahead and shove it.
By the way, I believe folks had mentioned that if you fine tune your investment  advisory approach, there'd be gazillion people waiting in line to join. Me included.
honeric01 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1061 on: May 29, 2007, 10:33 PM »

ok
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1062 on: May 29, 2007, 11:43 PM »

Quote from: honeric01 on May 29, 2007, 08:51 AM
how true is this, diamond bank has a type of an account called disa whereby the amount of money you deposit in your account for a period of 1 year will yield interest of 50%, that means if you have 1 million in there, exactly 1 year, you will be having 1.5million, how true is that?
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Quote from: honeric01 on May 29, 2007, 08:51 AM
how true is this, diamond bank has a type of an account called disa whereby the amount of money you deposit in your account for a period of 1 year will yield interest of 50%, that means if you have 1 million in there, exactly 1 year, you will be having 1.5million, how true is that?
It is not true
cheexy (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1063 on: May 30, 2007, 12:03 AM »

Quote from: honeric01 on May 29, 2007, 08:51 AM
how true is this, diamond bank has a type of an account called disa whereby the amount of money you deposit in your account for a period of 1 year will yield interest of 50%, that means if you have 1 million in there, exactly 1 year, you will be having 1.5million, how true is that?
@honeric
DISA means Diamond Integrated Savings Account. It means that it is a current and savings account all into one. You can pay in cheques and you have a cheque book but the cheque book cannot be presented through clearing. This means that you can't pay in a DISA cheque into an account. You can only issue the cheque to someone who will present it at the counter. Plus you are not charged C.O.T.I use a DISA account so i should know. Maybe who have a wrong package or bank.
honeric01 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1064 on: May 30, 2007, 12:12 AM »

hi pals, i heard access bank is on the verge of coming into the market within weeks, my question is for existin access bank shareholders, how good is their shares? my bro bought zenith shares a year ago at 16+naire and he sold it for 50 thru his agent. will access be that good? i ave oceanic nd first bank right nw but oceanic is still stagnant. why is it so?
honeric01 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1065 on: May 30, 2007, 12:20 AM »

@cheexy, i didn't get your point. the customer care lady at opebi branch was the one that told me abt the 50per rise within 1yr. infact when i opened my own, i wasnt given anything, nt even a cheque book so how i wonder how i'm going to access my account without any materials
cheexy (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1066 on: May 30, 2007, 12:24 AM »

Quote from: honeric01 on May 30, 2007, 12:12 AM
hi pals, i heard access bank is on the verge of coming into the market within weeks, my question is for existin access bank shareholders, how good is their shares? my bro bought zenith shares a year ago at 16+naire and he sold it for 50 through his agent. will access be that good? i ave oceanic nd first bank right nw but oceanic is still stagnant. why is it so?
Oceanic bank stock had been on technical suspension to enable them sort out the issues of the public offer. It was lifted last week so you should see changes in its price soon. Don't have info on access bank.
Quote from: honeric01 on May 30, 2007, 12:20 AM
@cheexy, i didn't get your point. the customer care lady at opebi branch was the one that told me about the 50per rise within 1yr. infact when i opened my own, i wasnt given anything, nt even a cheque book so how i wonder how i'm going to access my account without any materials

Are you sure it is DISA? I have not seen any 50% rise in my account o
honeric01 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1067 on: May 30, 2007, 01:00 AM »

yes i am sure. its nt xpress, nor dtap, neither is it any oda, its disa. wen u opened yours, wat were u given? and when was that?
otokx (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1068 on: May 30, 2007, 04:22 PM »

I heard cashcraft has a lot of shell workers as clients but really I have not been impressed by the rate of their online correspondence.
senetee (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1069 on: May 30, 2007, 04:52 PM »

@Easimoni

 thanks for the CSCS and the 1st Bank Shares return tips. May your fountain of knwlegde continue to grow. Big up to all contributors on this thread. Has been very informative.

senetee (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1070 on: May 30, 2007, 04:56 PM »

@SavvyLanre
            How does one engage the services of Afrinvest? Where are they located?
            BTW, were they formally known as sectrust? Merci.
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1071 on: May 30, 2007, 05:25 PM »

The Directors of Intercontinental bank have just announced that the PO raised over N95b making them the most capitalised Bank at the moment.
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1072 on: May 30, 2007, 05:31 PM »

@ egoldman
Your spread on the charges prior to the reduction incorporates only the previous minimum charge. Before the change brokers were allowed to charge between 1% to 2.75% graduated according to the level of the transactions involved.
So for low volume transactions the charges may still not be as low as you think.
egoldman (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1073 on: May 30, 2007, 05:52 PM »

I see  Kiss
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1074 on: May 30, 2007, 06:05 PM »

This spread was culled from Proshare
                              Old Charges                   New Charges 
 

                        Buy Charges                                   Buy Charges
 
SEC Fee           1%                                            SEC Fee           0.6%
Commission       2.75 %( graduated)                   Commission       1.575 %( graduated)     
Stamp Duty       0.075%                                     Stamp Duty       0.075%
VAT                  0.1375%                                   VAT                  0%
NSE Fee           0%                                           NSE Fee           0%
CSCS                0.1%                                         CSCS                0.105%
Vat on CSCS     0.005%                                     Vat on CSCS     0%       
                        4.0675%                                                           2.355%
 
                          Sell Charges                                   Sell Charges
 
SEC Fee              0%                                           SEC Fee           0%
Commission       2.75%(graduated)                     Commission       1.5750%(graduated)
Stamp Duty       0.075%                                     Stamp Duty       0.075%
VAT                  0.1375%                                   VAT                  0%
NSE Fee           0.65%                                       NSE Fee           0.5250%
CSCS                0.45%                                       CSCS                0.4725%           
VAT on NSE     0.0325%                                   VAT on NSE     0%                   
                        4.095%                                                             2.6475%
 
 
The new charges will take effect from April 23 2007.
 
Cashcraft Asset Management Limited
ForeshAore Towers (7th floor)
2A, Osborne Road
Ikoyi - Lagos
www.cashcraft.com
SavvyLanre
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1075 on: May 30, 2007, 06:18 PM »

Quote from: senetee on May 30, 2007, 04:56 PM
@SavvyLanre
            How does one engage the services of Afrinvest? Where are they located?
            BTW, were they formally known as sectrust? Merci.
@ Senetee
Yes, they used to be SecTrust,

Check out their website - www.afrinvestwa.com

Lagos Office

11/12th Floor, Foreshore Towers, 2A Osborne Road, Ikoyi, Lagos

T : +234 1 270 1680-8
kanugab (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1076 on: May 30, 2007, 07:05 PM »

Our gurus pls advise,

I have small fidelity bank shares thats not doin good at all. I feel like sell it off and buy oceanic b4 it escalates. Candid opinion
enolase (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1077 on: May 30, 2007, 07:21 PM »

Quote from: kanugab on May 30, 2007, 07:05 PM
Our gurus please advise,

I have small fidelity bank shares thats not doin good at all. I feel like sell it off and buy oceanic before it escalates. Candid opinion

This is another case of sentiments getting the better of an investor. If you sell this stock now, you will be crying in the next two months. Quote me!


Oceanic? Buy if you can, but I tell you that it will be easier to fetch water with a basket than to buy Oceanic bank now.
Tmoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1078 on: May 30, 2007, 11:42 PM »

any news on the just concluded PO,
called my brokers and i was told story story,
i guess i rely on this site more
dollyp1cute (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1079 on: May 31, 2007, 06:08 PM »

Quote from: Tmoni on May 30, 2007, 11:42 PM
any news on the just concluded PO,
called my brokers and i was told story story,
i guess i rely on this site more

What exactly is the news you want to hear?
I have a feeling you sleep with one eye open to watch your investment, the PO barely closed about 2 months, experienced gurus have said it will take from 5-7 months even with the electronic certificate, furthermore someone has answered on this thread that over subscription will be absorbed (how true that is me no know).

No wonder your brokers are giving you stories, it's because you have itching ears  Grin
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1080 on: May 31, 2007, 06:42 PM »

Quote from: dollyp1cute on May 31, 2007, 06:08 PM


No wonder your brokers are giving you stories, it's because you have itching ears Grin
Grin Cheesy
Egavlas (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1081 on: May 31, 2007, 09:59 PM »

Quote from: enolose on May 30, 2007, 11:42 PM
Cheexy,

Skye Bank shares are too hot in the market now and are not available.

There are some things you need to know.

Shares are not warehoused. For shares to be available, you have to have people who are willing to sell.

Once no one is willing to sell, the stock is unavailable. Of course, when an investor sees that his stock has great potential for capital appreciation, what reason does he have to sell? ABSOLUTELY NONE!

That is why you need an analyst to tell you when to get into a stock in good time before the institutional investors come and clear it all up on the floor.

If you wait for the results (quarterly or full year) of a company to be released before you decide to enter a stock, then you are too late!

Good stock analysts can read the handwriting on the wall WELL AHEAD OF TIME so as to better advice on a stock pick. In essence, you have to make hay while the sun shines.

Cheers.

You are right. Two weeks ago , I went to my broker and asked him to buy Skyebank and Ecobank shares for me from my account with them. This was when both shares were at 7.15 , 7.30 . He asked me why I would want to buy those shares and I told him that I belived the two shares were not at their peak prices and that going by what I saw with Skyebank, that it was going to appreciate.He went ahead and bought them for me and now, whenever I call, he picks my call immediately and pays me a lot of attention. This is because, the same thing happened with some other info I gave on some shares that turned out true. I am not an experienced hand in investing but there are somethings that one can put two and two together and add up.
I must confess that our stock brokers don't think for us and really don't do the work that they ought to. Some other stock broker who is just a friend, was really sad for me for leaving other "better" shares to go for Skyebank and Ecobank.
wham (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1082 on: May 31, 2007, 10:23 PM »

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tolulope01 (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1083 on: May 31, 2007, 11:12 PM »

@ enolase
thanks for d info on doctor/stockbroker debate, your advice made a lot of sense,
pls does anyone konw a broker that will at least respond to me even if i want to invest, like say a meagre 10000 in the secondary market, i dont want to hide under the cover of 'i dont have enuf money to trade' as an excuse not to cash in the booming stock market of today
any adress or number will be welcome
Tmoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1084 on: June 01, 2007, 12:26 AM »

@dollypcute,
N1 change in the stock price of any security i own goes a long way in determining what my portfolio is worth so i always hv to get a rough idea of what next to do.
eg, if oceanic doubles the PO price, i make about N3m, so every naira gained or lost is golden
ijogbon (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1085 on: June 01, 2007, 12:44 AM »

This Tmoni sef? N3m from Oceanic again  Shocked lol
Anyways, I have been trying to find you online since you let drop that you were 'studying project management' somewhere on this forum. Howz it going? Thinking of taking the certification myself. Hook me up on your email, mine is dunhayes@yahoo.com.
dollyp1cute (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1086 on: June 01, 2007, 12:41 PM »

Quote from: Tmoni on June 01, 2007, 12:26 AM
@dollypcute,
N1 change in the stock price of any security i own goes a long way in determining what my portfolio is worth so i always hv to get a rough idea of what next to do.
eg, if oceanic doubles the PO price, i make about N3m, so every naira gained or lost is golden
Tmoni you are trying me o  Shocked Shocked Shocked N3m kilode, is it only you, you made like N1m for access you should have enough money by now to retire. Please move and let us thousandnaires make some dosh.

How much are you staking in 1st bank?
Tmoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #1087 on: June 01, 2007, 01:21 PM »

my dearest people, at least it is legitimate money,

no EFCC to be scared off,

whats in the market today?

life goes on
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