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kayodus (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17600 on: February 26, 2008, 08:30 AM »

Naijadr. Thanks for the reply.

How do you input data into softwares used for chart analysis eg aptistock


followed your link - very useful
BHG
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17601 on: February 26, 2008, 08:33 AM »

Hello Guys,please is it true that FCMB has started issuing their certificates for the recently concluded public offer?
NBA (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17602 on: February 26, 2008, 08:34 AM »

I think it will take some luck to get OandO today!

Proshare News and Analysis
The Stock Market - 250208
Posted Tuesday, February 26, 2008

The NSE-All Share Index closed on an upswing, with a 60 basis points appreciation.

After several days of hold-back, investors and speculators finally unleashed the withheld shares of AIICO. At first, bids continued to surface to mop up intermittent offers, but towards the end of the trading sessions, large quantum of offers overwhelmed the available bids, to see the stock close with a modest 1.9% appreciation.

STACO enjoyed a rally, trading at maximum price for a substantial part of the session, as it bagged a 4.9% gain. Most of the other insurance stocks maintained a stable trading pattern.

Reaction to the corporate action announced by Oando was instantaneous, with bids going over the 7 million mark and as expected offers also dried up.

Chevron was also on bid throughout the session. Riding on the back of Oando's announcement, other stocks in the sector such as Mobil, Total, Conoil and Eternal oil booked maximum price appreciations and closed with unsatisfied demand.

Marginal losses were recorded across the banking sector; a reflection of investor’s attitude towards the banking sector, as the market looks towards small cap stocks in the short term.  

However, Bank PHB and Unity Bank recorded modest gains of 2.9% and 2.6% respectively.

Livestock Feeds enjoyed a 5% price hike for most part of the session until supplies brought down the price by mid session; however, unrelenting bids ensured it still booked the daily maximum price.

ABC Transport, May & Baker, DN Meyer still remain unavailable as speculators hold on in hope of further appreciation with the lingering bull-run. Renewed entries mopped up available offers for C&I leasing, finishing with a 4.8% rise, a trend that could prevail in coming sessions.
frankiriri (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17603 on: February 26, 2008, 08:37 AM »

Quote from: wanaj0 on February 26, 2008, 08:19 AM
One other thing is that when you have a lot of PO's, it is a sign that the market is over valued and a correction is imminent. That is a general rule in the capital market.

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The highlighted part is very true. Most coys are attracted to do POs & PPs because of the high valuations that the market is placing on stocks. If fact If Ponmo PO is launched it would be oversubscribed. The correction would be precipitated by the release of results that don't meet expectations of the investing public. So with the exception of Top quality mgt teams who have a knack for surpassing expectations, many companies doing POs will find their prices falling flat in their face. I just hope it would trigger a general dissillusion with the capital market. My advise is that you shine ya eyes and invest in only fundamentally sound stocks ( whether you are a taliban or not)
ololufemi
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17604 on: February 26, 2008, 08:38 AM »

@ tkb417, nkc

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@asslickers
u'll do well by shutting your mouth if u guys can't say anything positive

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Na this kind statement dey vex me. Have you checked to se if they are online . even if they hold on to what they know, carry police go arrest them.

We dey try quench fire for here, somebody dey go find petrol come put.

People are not obliged to disclose but if they do, we are priviledged to learn from them.

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Make I no vex oh.
whats this drivel all about?
oh gosh! who is this?

@femi, d 419er poster  


Whether you guys call me an asslicker, bootlicker or tom tom licker or a 419er, I cannot and will not be bothered by your snide remarks. Afterall, this is a faceless forum.

The important thing is as long as I can make money and help other people make money too, who cares what some people think. Cool Cool.

I leave your matter for another day.



@ All,

Heard a strong rumour on IGI that it will be approaching the NSE floor soon to list their shares and guess what, they are still offering more units to their staffs to buy at a ridiculous discount.

Contact your nearest friend who works IGI or more info


Starcomms will be hitting the market with a PP through Stanbic IBTC (New Name)

Also heard that Stanbic intends to buy more shares of IBTC on the NSE floor. Your guess is as good as mine.

Cheers to all.
samstone4 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17605 on: February 26, 2008, 08:40 AM »

@ Naijadr

That is a brilliant website for candlesticks  beginners or just lazy or busy people like me!
Thank you.
I have bookmarked it and will advise all Nairalanders to do the same.

@ Wanajo

Thanks for the advice.
I guess the only other comparison for those thinking of Orient or Amakpe refineries will be to compare their prices.
For the beginners out there, I don't mean the nominal prices.

@ Nairalanders

Today being D-Day, do we think the rigging in the presidential election was enough to have swung the outcome from Yaradua to either Atiku or Buhari.
I think we all accept there were irregularities.

Samstone4 Cool Cool
NEPA_LOVA
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17606 on: February 26, 2008, 08:43 AM »

@samstone4
I bind all the forces conspiring against Yardua out of the bollinger band
and into the bottomless pit.

samstone4 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17607 on: February 26, 2008, 08:51 AM »

@ Ololufemi

Annoying but not surprising that IGI are still selling their stocks to people.
What's the deal with these people? The pp has been on since 2006.
Hope they introduce their shares to the NSE very soon and let the wagon roll!

As for Starcomm, I have it from very high sources at IBTC  and Starcomm that it is not a pp but a public offer.

Samstone4 Cool Cool Cool
wanaj0
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17608 on: February 26, 2008, 08:52 AM »

Quote from: frankiriri on February 26, 2008, 08:37 AM
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The highlighted part is very true. Most coys are attracted to do POs & PPs because of the high valuations that the market is placing on stocks. If fact If Ponmo PO is launched it would be oversubscribed. The correction would be precipitated by the release of results that don't meet expectations of the investing public. So with the exception of Top quality mgt teams who have a knack for surpassing expectations, many companies doing POs will find their prices falling flat in their face. I just hope it would trigger a general dissillusion with the capital market. My advise is that you shine ya eyes and invest in only fundamentally sound stocks ( whether you are a taliban or not)

The only saving grace is that for some of them, people don't have the certificates yet especially those insurance companies. Imagine listing 16bn shares for a company that cannot make a PAT of N500m!!!! What a valuation!!!

By the time the capitalisation of Big Treat is more than UACN with all its Mr Biggs you know that there is a problem.

For those holding illiquid stocks and stocks without fundamentals, well enjoy your loot but I hope you understand the risk.

Part of the problems on this site this past few days is basically people making and accepting recommendations without understanding the associated risk and how to hedge against it. People also need to tally their investment style with their personal risk profile.

You can be sure that once we get to the result season, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. WAPCo started it. Watch out for the others to follow. WAPCO's own will be minimal though. GTB and Flour MIlls are two stocks that I am anxiously waiting for their results vis aviz their valuation.
wanaj0
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17609 on: February 26, 2008, 09:00 AM »

Quote from: samstone4 on February 26, 2008, 08:40 AM

@ Wanajo

Thanks for the advice.
I guess the only other comparison for those thinking of Orient or Amakpe refineries will be to compare their prices.
For the beginners out there, I don't mean the nominal prices.


Samstone4 Cool Cool

Except you plan getting on the board of Orient, the issues surrounding it is enough to let it pass!!!!

If na oil indutry you dey look for, go for OandO at current price. Just placed another order for more units today.
nkc (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17610 on: February 26, 2008, 09:02 AM »

@femi ,

419 i mean is yur post oh, abeg oh, sori oh, am with u on yur ideas a hundred percent, hope u understand , i meant yur posts r 419 at d moment u dig Sad
Stacks
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17611 on: February 26, 2008, 09:07 AM »

@BHG

FCMB has started issuing certificates,  Still no 9 months result Sad

@ FO2

Sell or Hold on? Thanks
Naijadr (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17612 on: February 26, 2008, 09:17 AM »

@kayodus, I used to use apti and metastock, but that was taking time, nigeriansecurities.com has a great TA tool now going back 2yrs, they started that part like end of 2007 so I stopped importing data.
That candlesticks website was posted withn the past week before by someone, and I bookmarked it, excellent site, it has proved right for all stocks on my portfolio for most part.
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17613 on: February 26, 2008, 10:16 AM »

Quote from: Naijadr on February 26, 2008, 09:17 AM
@kayodus, I used to use apti and metastock, but that was taking time, nigeriansecurities.com has a great TA tool now going back 2yrs, they started that part like end of 2007 so I stopped importing data.
That candlesticks website was posted withn the past week before by someone, and I bookmarked it, excellent site, it has proved right for all stocks on my portfolio for most part.

its a good site posted on here over the weekend. it is good for beginning to understand candlesticks. However, not enough patterns or explanations.
if u want to effectively use it to trade i would suggest u get the book by Greg Morris called Cnadlestick charting explained. Goldmine!!. the bible of candlestick charting outside of sakata's own candlestick charting book.

@kayodeus

oloruko egbon mi! u go pay o!  Cheesy  Cheesy try this charting site and type in candlestick charting- stockcharts.com
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17614 on: February 26, 2008, 10:20 AM »

@bros wanajo
i placed an order for oando today. as u know, i was a bit slow on this one because i highlighted it at the end of last yr if u remember.
i sincerely hope my broker gets it but he wasnt sounding too hopeful (i bind him  Cheesy  Cheesy). let him earn his dosh today.

between, i cancelled that order on that insurance company. not juicy enough yet for me. in fact e sour on further reflection
husu (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17615 on: February 26, 2008, 10:25 AM »


My Universal Insurance still dey represent but I no see Consolidated Hallmark for nigeriansecurities site oooo. Hope no be under cosntruction them put am or them don delist the company??? Abeg, my kg for that one big ooo

@wanajo,
bros u advised us sometime ago against universal insurance,u said they have many units available and there  is HIGH  possibility of S.R.and TS.
upward (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17616 on: February 26, 2008, 10:32 AM »

Quote from: SavvyLanre on February 25, 2008, 07:36 PM
Upward - I prayed for you too now on air larfarge,  i got mine at 65, sometime in June/July07 - my exact expectation were for N90-95 as well by Feb08(even when it took a dip to N60). But, na that stupid news kill am for me, and had to bail out as that news no gree with my analysis. Since, it still fits into your portfolio - then my prayer was still answered :-)

I can see, you got yours in June/July 2007, so after such a length of time coupled with the news you had to bail, I got mine sometime towards ending January 2008 at 67.point something, so I'm still very cool on that one. Thanks anyway for your "prayers", will let you know what happens with it.
wanaj0
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17617 on: February 26, 2008, 10:33 AM »

Quote from: husu on February 26, 2008, 10:25 AM
My Universal Insurance still dey represent but I no see Consolidated Hallmark for nigeriansecurities site oooo. Hope no be under cosntruction them put am or them don delist the company??? Abeg, my kg for that one big ooo

@wanajo,
bros u advised us sometime ago against universal insurance,u said they have many units available and there  is HIGH  possibility of S.R.and TS.

I am still against Universal Insurance. I saw the prospectus and I let it pass. Listing 16bn shares with a PAT of less than N500m? Too many mouth to feed.

Yes I got some units as a preferential investor via a group. Not our first choice but we made an investment that was about to turn awry so we pressurise the issuing house to give us something else so that's how I ended up with Universal Insurance. Still a BAD company anyway.

For those that bought the PP, the allotment was terrible. There will be refund money because of the preferentiall alottment that they did to my group and others.


Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 10:20 AM
@bros wanajo
i placed an order for oando today. as u know, i was a bit slow on this one because i highlighted it at the end of last yr if u remember.
i sincerely hope my broker gets it but he wasnt sounding too hopeful (i bind him Cheesy Cheesy). let him earn his dosh today.

between, i cancelled that order on that insurance company. not juicy enough yet for me. in fact e sour on further reflection

OandO is not available. Definitely not at current price. My broker did not get any for me yesterday. gave orders for two brokers todat at market price. If no luck today, then I will cancel the order. Have some there already so no shaking.
Naijadr (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17618 on: February 26, 2008, 10:36 AM »

Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 10:16 AM
its a good site posted on here over the weekend. it is good for beginning to understand candlesticks. However, not enough patterns or explanations.
if u want to effectively use it to trade i would suggest u get the book by Greg Morris called Cnadlestick charting explained. Goldmine!!. the bible of candlestick charting outside of sakata's own candlestick charting book.

@kayodeus

oloruko egbon mi! u go pay o!  Cheesy  Cheesy try this charting site and type in candlestick charting- stockcharts.com
thanks so much, I'll get it, even got to preview the book through google books here, appears 1st 55pages of the book is on there Smiley
http://books.google.com/books?id=wEC0boS3AwMC&printsec=titlepage&dq=cnadlestick+charting+explained&source=gbs_toc_s&cad=1
damoche07 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17619 on: February 26, 2008, 10:56 AM »

Hi guys. AKTopgun et al,thanks for keeping thethread on track.your candleology is very revealing and i really enjoy your analysis. Hope your Junkies are reacting well to treatments.How is that guy doing now?am sure he is better.

I bought into  Union Diagnostic PP last year. Somebody was reading his paper jejely in the plane when i borowed it and saw the one page ad.They promised to list by october 07. anybody out there fron Cashcraft who can give us an update?

Egbon Wanajo,i can see you are upbeat about Oando.I am happy that at least a truly Nigerian coy is diving into Upstream.As u rightly said,thats whats Transcorp should be doing and i believe they will still do it once they can be set free of Mtel and get part off their money back.Make them just announce that exploration has started on their block and see spike.That stock is a N40 stock by the next twelve months(Caveat Empty or Emptor o).With OML 125 and 134,i wish Oando good luck.I hope they will be able to deal with the Italians well well.At least then don borrow money. With Oando,Afren and the new guys coming up,we will soon get a foothold in the Upstream in sha God
wanaj0
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17620 on: February 26, 2008, 11:18 AM »

Quote from: damoche07 on February 26, 2008, 10:56 AM
Hi guys. AKTopgun et al,thanks for keeping thethread on track.your candleology is very revealing and i really enjoy your analysis. Hope your Junkies are reacting well to treatments.How is that guy doing now?am sure he is better.

I bought into  Union Diagnostic PP last year. Somebody was reading his paper jejely in the plane when i borowed it and saw the one page ad.They promised to list by october 07. anybody out there fron Cashcraft who can give us an update?

Egbon Wanajo,i can see you are upbeat about Oando.I am happy that at least a truly Nigerian coy is diving into Upstream.As u rightly said,thats whats Transcorp should be doing and i believe they will still do it once they can be set free of Mtel and get part off their money back.Make them just announce that exploration has started on their block and see spike.That stock is a N40 stock by the next twelve months(Caveat Empty or Emptor o).With OML 125 and 134,i wish Oando good luck.I hope they will be able to deal with the Italians well well.At least then don borrow money. With Oando,Afren and the new guys coming up,we will soon get a foothold in the Upstream in sha God


As per OandO the major opportunity here is the cash flow. OML 125 is an already producing field. For the other companies, from Exploration to production can take as long as 4 to 5 years.

Also OandO boys are used to dealing with the Italians. Remember they bought AGIP and merged it with Unipetrol to form OandO. Also, they've recruited some peeps who should be able to point them in the right direction. They own some other oil blocs apart from this.

For Transcorp, they still have a long way to go!!!!
BHG
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17621 on: February 26, 2008, 11:37 AM »

Quote from: Stacks on February 26, 2008, 09:07 AM
@BHG

FCMB has started issuing certificates,  Still no 9 months result Sad

@ FO2

Sell or Hold on? Thanks

Stacks Thank you.Father of 2,Aktopgun et all why is it that sometimes though you put your cscs no on your PO form,they still issue certificates to you rather than crediting your cscs account?   
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17622 on: February 26, 2008, 11:42 AM »

Quote from: BHG on February 26, 2008, 11:37 AM
Stacks Thank you.Father of 2,Aktopgun et all why is it that sometimes though you put your cscs no on your PO form,they still issue certificates to you rather than crediting your cscs account?   

i have no idea. i guess its one of the irregularities that remains in the NSE. i know of people who have had their Dangote flour shares credited to their CSCS accounts and i have also heard of people who have gotten certificates. beats me bro.

i can only hope these irregularities are slowly corrected over time to further level the playing field.
dollyp1cute (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17623 on: February 26, 2008, 11:46 AM »

Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 10:16 AM
its a good site posted on here over the weekend. it is good for beginning to understand candlesticks. However, not enough patterns or explanations.
if u want to effectively use it to trade i would suggest u get the book by Greg Morris called Cnadlestick charting explained. Goldmine!!. the bible of candlestick charting outside of sakata's own candlestick charting book.

@kayodeus

oloruko egbon mi! u go pay o! Cheesy Cheesy try this charting site and type in candlestick charting- stockcharts.com

@AKPTOGUN.

Shuo,  I assumed you were from the East, how come your brother is called Kayus? Shocked!

The candles say ABC still Turboing ahead based on yesterday price, the 10, 25 MA moving favourably ko.

Confirm my conclusion with a Yes or No Smiley
blueband (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17624 on: February 26, 2008, 11:48 AM »

One of thereasons why people are making money from the NSE is the unlevel playing field.And it only spells doom for all of us.Once people atrt losing confidence in the market then there will be problems.SEC needs to start acting fast.
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17625 on: February 26, 2008, 11:51 AM »

Quote from: dollyp1cute on February 26, 2008, 11:46 AM
@AKPTOGUN.

Shuo,  I assumed you were from the East, how come your brother is called Kayus? Shocked!

The candles say ABC still Turboing ahead based on yesterday price, the 10, 25 MA moving favourably ko.

Confirm my conclusion with a Yes or No Smiley

 Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy Yes!

You probably thought i was from the east because my son's name is tobechukwu abi? i am yoruba and my wife is ibo. Tobe chukwu na im ibo name.
BHG
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17626 on: February 26, 2008, 11:56 AM »

Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 11:42 AM
i have no idea. i guess its one of the irregularities that remains in the NSE. i know of people who have had their Dangote flour shares credited to their CSCS accounts and i have also heard of people who have gotten certificates. beats me bro.

i can only hope these irregularities are slowly corrected over time to further level the playing field.

I hope so too.Asper Oando.I've finally concluded that i've missed the flight.Even at 230 (rights issue) and 250 naira per share the PO is not cheap. It's definately for nairaland elders   .In the meantime,i shall wait for the crumbs that fall at the masters feet Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
dollyp1cute (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17627 on: February 26, 2008, 11:56 AM »

Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 11:51 AM
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Yes!

You probably thought i was from the east because my son's name is tobechukwu abi? i am yoruba and my wife is ibo. Tobe chukwu na im ibo name.

I see so you are Tiwantiwa!  Wink

As per Tobe, keep holding on fast to your confession of faith, it is a settled matter.

Thanks for confirming my reading,  e be like say TA still dey my body small, ope o, I never use all chop amala.
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17628 on: February 26, 2008, 12:03 PM »

looks like yar'adua remains president. abi i no get am my learned brothers (lawyers) on here.  Cheesy  Cheesy
BHG
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17629 on: February 26, 2008, 12:12 PM »

Quote from: aktopgun on February 26, 2008, 12:03 PM
looks like yar'adua remains president. abi i no get am my learned brothers (lawyers) on here.  Cheesy  Cheesy

I think you should be able to follow the proceedings on http://www.nigerianwebradio.com/index.html
samstone4 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17630 on: February 26, 2008, 12:14 PM »

@AKT

Only Buhari's dismissed so far but looking like Yaradua will stay.

Still going on.
It's on AIT.
Samstone4 Cool Cool Cool
aktopgun (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #17631 on: February 26, 2008, 12:18 PM »

Quote from: samstone4 on February 26, 2008, 12:14 PM
@AKT

Only Buhari's dismissed so far but looking like Yaradua will stay.

Still going on.
It's on AIT.
Samstone4 Cool Cool Cool

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy u really expect atiku's to be upheld?
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