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tonyjon (m)
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My problem with Jim Ovia is that he is not prepping anyone for succession. If Zenith is to be a long term play for me then I am thinking ( what happens to Zenith and to my money if Jim the Dream suddenly has " Indian apple poisoning" ( like Abacha)  With all the STIFF competition in the banking sector UBA or FBn would quickly capitalize on any weakness, I don't doubt profitability from Zenith but I don't see my money doubling like in PHB ( no N72 from Zenith while PHB could easily do N40). I've heard this several times. How is everyone so sure that Zenith does not have a succession plan?? Do you think the man expect to live forever? He may exert a lot of influence but this is no longer a small company and it is public.
Succession planning as a company policy has been around for a few decades now. I don't see why Zenith Bank will be waiting for senior executives or managers to die before putting one in place. There must be Senior Managers or Executives that are being positioned to take over strategic positions.
I know this was seriously highlighted in 2006 but I don't expect that Management is to dumb not to have done anything about it.
Funny question and good answer. Peace.
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EMMAACHILE (m)
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@ emmaachile I just went through bank phb's official site, and the only thing on "bank phb asset management", was an address, but no phone number or e-mail, rather what they had to say was:
Bank PHB has been alerted to an increasing number of “advance fee fraud schemes” intended to defraud unsuspecting individuals and companies. In response to this alert, Bank PHB warns against fraudulent online domiciliary account opening solicitations, funds remittance orders, investment deals and advanced fee fraud schemes that misuse the Bank’s name or claim to be affiliated with Bank PHB.
I run my own cscs account in wema and it takes a minimum of N250,000 to get started,what i'm just trying to say is that there are alot of fraud stars out there, and you must be warry of who you are dealing with. It's not much of a problem to open an e-mail under the auspices of bank PHB and get a phone number to accompany it, Just dig in properly before throwing inyour money,
PHB Asset Management
Plot 707 Adeola Hopewell Street,
P.M.B 80054 Victoria Island,
Lagos
thats the address
You sound very funny, Isn't it? Thanks for your caution but if you are in Lagos why not confirm their address and location. The mails i upload is sent from PHB Asset MGT and you can find out from the branches when you have time. Attached is their CSCS Account opening forms
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wanaj0
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I've heard this several times. How is everyone so sure that Zenith does not have a succession plan?? Do you think the man expect to live forever? He may exert a lot of influence but this is no longer a small company and it is public.
Succession planning as a company policy has been around for a few decades now. I don't see why Zenith Bank will be waiting for senior executives or managers to die before putting one in place. There must be Senior Managers or Executives that are being positioned to take over strategic positions.
I know this was seriously highlighted in 2006 but I don't expect that Management is to dumb not to have done anything about it.
Nothing to show that they have a succession plan. Put another way, if they do, the plan is not working. The guy being touted as successor (an ED) left for Oceanic not too long ago. Take a look at GTB. Adeola left and Aderinokun took over. It is pretty obvious that Agbaje is next on the line. Intercontinental is also like that. No plan to replace Erastus. For UBA, not expecting any problem. Chika will likely be the one to take over. Surprisingly, I don't expect Oceanic to face the same problem. Ibru was not the pioneer CEO. The recent recruitment of some egg heads as ED's shows that something is cooking.
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wanaj0
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Windywendy,
On UBA, move with care. Everything is right with UBA except the penchant for some huge 'provisions' to cover some extraneous items. This started during Bello Osagie's deals. Since then, UBA has become a cautious BUY. Fraud is so rampant in that bank. Unsecured loans and insider credit is regular. Breaking of banking rules seems to be an habit. At the old STB, they were just paying fines like no mans business. In terms of corporate gorvernance, UBA ranks very low.
So, the N4bn provision this year is not a one off for UBA. It is a regular occurence that you should factor in going forward.
For me, the bank to stick with is the elephant. People will be suprised by the kind of profit that First Bank will post next year. Just watch out!!!!
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wanaj0
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Anybody watching OandO?  ? Now close to 110.00. If you bought last week, you should be having over 25% now. Did anyone pick this up with their charts and trends? 
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EMMAACHILE (m)
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I got a message from IBTC on Diamond Bank GDR Conversion form so it goes:
Dear Sir/ Madam
Further to our earlier emails, please find attached a GDR Conversion Form to be completed by subscribers who want to receive Diamond Bank ordinary shares instead of GDRs (in addition to the application form).
In addition, please note the following important modifications to the domestic Offer: 1. The GDR conversion charges have been waived for subscribers who elect to receive ordinary shares. This implies that subscribers can now receive Diamond Bank shares at an attractive reference price of N16.50 without paying any additional fees or charges. 2. The arrangements for converting Diamond Bank GDRs into ordinary shares have now been finalised and subscribers who elect for ordinary shares will have the shares credited to their CSCS accounts by the second week in January 2008.
Please note that the domestic Offer closes on Monday. 10 December 2007
Best Regards
Attahced is the form
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RoughCut (m)
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@Windywendy, Wanaj0, Pumping777, easimoni, Roughcut and all members of the house. Please have a look at the attached chart, Have I got the averages right? if yes what does the mixture of signals suggest? In arriving at BUY/SELL decision, I have used the prevailing condition that "When the shorter moving average (the one calculated from the lowest number of intervals) moves above the longer moving average a buy signal is generated and when the short moving average moves below the longer moving average a sell signal is generated." from www.trademade.comThat is an oversimplification of the use MACD to arrive at your BUY/SELL signal. Your formulas for the EMA are correct per se. What you need to is to chart the 10-Day EMA against the 20-day EMA(Excel spreadsheet job about 5 mins) or 12-day EMA against the 26-Day EMA and in this case your cross-over or signal point should be the 9-Day EMA from your data table which is the point on the chart where the line for the 10-day EMA crosses the line for the 20-day EMACD this is your cross-over line or signal line some sort of reference point(color-code the lines to differentiate). You dontactually have to construct the chart use the 9-Day EMA as your signal point. So what you need to do is insert the formula for the BUY/SELL signal as you have done already if the EMA from your spreadsheet or the current closing price is higher than the cross-over or signal EMA that is a SELL signal and if vice-versa a BUY signal this will tend to happen over very few data points and so you don't have a BUY/SIGNAL every single day. The point of calculating your MACD on a daily basis is to confirm if there's an emerging pattern either BULLISH or BEARISH for that stock The cross-over or signal line is used to set up the support level which would be your reference point. You can construct the 10-day EMA and the 20-Day EMA to determne a pattern either bullish or bearish since you have a longer time-period you can make a definite judgement. If the MACD(subtract the longer-term EMA from the shorter-term EMA) is negative it means the pattern is bearish and if positive it means the pattern is bullish and not a BUY/SELL signal you will set up a BUY/SELL signal once you have determined the cross-over or signal as i have described I will look into the spreadsheet and 'tweak' it so what i'm saying makes more sense to you If you still have questions just holla!
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RoughCut (m)
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Nothing to show that they have a succession plan. Put another way, if they do, the plan is not working. The guy being touted as successor (an ED) left for Oceanic not too long ago.
Take a look at GTB. Adeola left and Aderinokun took over. It is pretty obvious that Agbaje is next on the line. Intercontinental is also like that. No plan to replace Erastus. For UBA, not expecting any problem. Chika will likely be the one to take over.
Surprisingly, I don't expect Oceanic to face the same problem. Ibru was not the pioneer CEO. The recent recruitment of some egg heads as ED's shows that something is cooking.
Welcome to the world of executive recruitment/head-hunting I don't know sha but i think Zenith can afford to pay a couple of million pounds i meant naira  to these head-hunters to find someone with the right calibre and experience to run the bank when Ovia decides to take the back seat. Or we don't have such coys in nigeria who can do this? if that is the case may be that is something i need to start thinking about Not too sure that the next CEO has to come from inside Zenith but then i suppose it's going to be a bit of a challenge to get someone in from the 'heavy-weight' banks to run Zenith just my thoughts by the way BTW:Read that Orient refinery (hoping to be first refinery in naija) is doing a private placement of 50kobo ordinary shares at N100 per share and the minimum application is for 1,000 units(a lot cheaper than MTN  ) and UBA Global Markets are the finacial advisers. The refinery will be producing 55,000bpd and hoping to come on stream in early '09. At least since it's privately owned we would not have to put up with the horror stories we have had with our 'refineries The offer closes end of December
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fredostar (m)
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Also, is anyone here who wants to purchase a An intercontinental Bank shares of 5,000 units worth, please contact me. My phone number is 07039645226, or write me at dmillerworld@yahoo.com. Thanks, Fred.
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ololufemi
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@ Pumping777, I've heard this several times. How is everyone so sure that Zenith does not have a succession plan?? Do you think the man expect to live forever? He may exert a lot of influence but this is no longer a small company and it is public.
Succession planning as a company policy has been around for a few decades now. I don't see why Zenith Bank will be waiting for senior executives or managers to die before putting one in place. There must be Senior Managers or Executives that are being positioned to take over strategic positions.
I know this was seriously highlighted in 2006 but I don't expect that Management is to dumb not to have done anything about it. Thanks a lot Pumping for those words of wisdom. I just want to let the house know a few things here. I remember that some few years ago at IBTC (old Investment Banking and Trust Company) people thought that Atedo Peterside did not have a succession plan for his bank and that he was majorly the face of the bank. At that time, th bank shares were sold at an IPO price of N4.30. I would like to say that currently, it is a subsidiary of a global bank and he still remains the largest individual shareholder and he is also the bank's chairman. Sola David Borha pioneered the bank with him and was relatively unknown to most people until recently when she was appointed MD and CEO. The same can be said of GTB also. look into the history of Zentih and find out the pioneers of the bank and whatb their vision is for the bank. I am sur you will be surprised that there is a well laid out plan for succession. Remember nobody lives forever and the best organisations are those that outlive their founders.
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ololufemi
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@ Pangolo, Quote from Pumping I just have to agree with you. I know every one batters POs because of the delays but many folks will not make 50% within a year on the floor because of all kind of mistakes or lack of time to monitor stocks and do research.
I hear from many folks that say, I just want to make 50% in 1 year and I always wonder what better Xmas present than Bank PHB or Zenith PO. Let me see who will be able to buy Zenith this time next year for N60 (The effects of possible bonus not included). Words of advice for you from the wise one called Pumping. No buy Zenith now. See whether you will buy it for above N60 next year.
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Naijadr (f)
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BTW:Read that Orient refinery (hoping to be first refinery in naija) is doing a private placement of 50kobo ordinary shares at N100 per share and the minimum application is for 1,000 units(a lot cheaper than MTN  ) and UBA Global Markets are the finacial advisers. The refinery will be producing 55,000bpd and hoping to come on stream in early '09. At least since it's privately owned we would not have to put up with the horror stories we have had with our 'refineries The offer closes end of December Hmmm Orient's management is very questionable, not the MD but there are other factors (that I wouldnt be privileged to discuss on here) that would make me very hesitant to throw in money there.
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RoughCut (m)
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Hmmm Orient's management is very questionable, not the MD but there are other factors (that I wouldnt be privileged to discuss on here) that would make me very hesitant to throw in money there.
I have actually been thinking about this refinery business since i first heard the gist in '05 but come think of it i dont think it would be any worse than our 'national' refineries
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Naijadr (f)
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I have actually been thinking about this refinery business since i first heard the gist in '05 but come think of it i don't think it would be any worse than our 'national' refineries
True true, our obsolete national refineries  still have my hesitation though from an insider's perspective I guess, but like everything I'm sure folks will be ok for short term, but long term is another ball game.
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Blenheim (m)
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Hi guys, can anyone suggest an exit date for Intl Energy Insurance and AG Leventis? Still studying the spreadsheets,
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RoughCut (m)
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True true, our obsolete national refineries  still have my hesitation though from an insider's perspective I guess, but like everything I'm sure folks will be ok for short term, but long term is another ball game. Lets put it this way throw in a couple of thousand pounds and wait till when it comes on stream in '09 and hopefully they will do a PO and knowing the psychology of the market you can expect an over-subscription and you can sell your private holding to the highest bidder just before they go on TS(if i'm that lucky to time the market correctly) hopefully i can afford to tie down about two thousand pounds till then. Back in '05 they were going to do the PP for a minimum subscription of N1M then but not sure what happened If they do a PO for a refinery (they have to because they need the money!) that's already in production and making money i expect that to come a lot more than the N100 per share for the PP they are doing now and we are talking a timeframe of less than 18 mths I'm assuming my permutaions are correct
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Naijadr (f)
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Lets put it this way throw in a couple of thousand pounds and wait till when it comes on stream in '09 and hopefully they will do a PO and knowing the psychology of the market you can expect an over-subscription and you can sell your private holding to the highest bidder just before they go on TS(if i'm that lucky to time the market correctly) hopefully i can afford to tie down about two thousand pounds till then.
Back in '05 they were going to do the PP for a minimum subscription of N1M then but not sure what happened
If they do a PO for a refinery (they have to because they need the money!) that's already in production and making money i expect that to come a lot more than the N100 per share for the PP they are doing now and we are talking a timeframe of less than 18 mths
I'm assuming my permutaions are correct
true true, if u have the money to tie down , and if u think the rewards (% of gain) outweighs the risk. a better option would have been for all of us to have purchased Oando when it was in the N78-80 range for months  even in Nov and turn around and sell it now for N110 in less than a mth
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RoughCut (m)
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true true, if u have the money to tie down , and if u think the rewards (% of gain) outweighs the risk. a better option would have been for all of us to have purchased Oando when it was in the N78-80 range for months  even in Nov and turn around and sell it now for N110 in less than a mth Couldnt agree more!
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damoche07 (m)
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I an strongly against anybody participating in he Orient Refinery's PP.Reasons.1)Profit margins in the down stream sector throughout the world is reducing everyday.Nigeria's halfhearted deregulation makes it worse.Have u wondered why the likes of Shell etc dont have refineries in Nigeria when they have in other countries? 2)Building a refinery is a very long term project.Your health(BP) might not last long enough for u to see the refinery work.Funding projects like this belong to institutional investors ,not individuals.PP's for banks etc can take ages b4 u get certificates,how long will it take a refinery?PP's are loosely or not even regulated.Please,your family still needs u.But if u have some money u can afford to throw away,u can take the risk.It might be woth it.
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ololufemi
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@ all nairalanders,
Info on Bank PHB from the home soil
It is no longer news that Bank PHB is in the market in search of cheap funds to beef up its capital base. But what has informed this analysis is the bank’s antecedents, fundamentals, price and other indices being flaunted before investors. First, let’s look at the price. The current market price of N25.51 per share for Bank PHB represents an adjusted capital gain of 239 percent in 2007 from a closing market price of N3.12 in December 2006. But an incontrovertible fact is that the bank’s share price had hit a high of N35 early in the year before it was marked down for a bonus issue of 1 for 4 made in its 2007 financial year. At its year high of N35, the banks’ shareholders could boast of a capital gain of 346 percent on December 2006 closing price. Bank PHB share price has made a capital gain of approximately 400 percent since its private placement offer price of N1.95 in 2005. The capital gain is besides a cash dividend of N1.25 billion in 2006 and N4.5 billion in 2007. The 1.61 billion ordinary shares given to shareholders in 2007 is worth N41 billion at current market price. The implication is that, in just two years, shareholders have received approximately N47 billion in both cash and non cash returns from Bank PHB. The Bank projected earnings multiple ratios also offers significant room for upward growth of the bank’s share price. Forecast price earnings ratio based on the offer price is expected to drop from 13.12 in 2008 to a low of 6.18 in 2010. This is against the current market average price earnings ratio of 19 times earnings. This indicates that Bank PHB share has a very strong upside potential post IPO.
Bank PHB’s offer price of N17 per share is discounted by 33 percent or N8.51 below its current market price of N25.51 per share. Stock market analysts agree the fair price for Bank PHB stock lies between N33 to N35 per share based on current and projected earnings.
Again, to establish how expensive an offer is, one must have a cursory look at the company’s price earnings ratio (PE) this is because, the lower the PE, the cheaper the stock. Aside the fact that Bank PHB is one of the fastest growing banks in the country; it is also on record that the bank’s PE ratio of 13.12 seems better than that of its peers. PE ratio, simply stated, is the number of years, or how long an investor will have to wait to recover his investment in a stock based on current earnings. It is hoped that this ration will further reduce to about 6.18 by 2010 as earlier mentioned. With its last three quarters results, the bank has sent a clear message to all its stakeholders that it is capable of breaking new business ground in the drive to increase revenue and at the same time ensure that such revenue is generated in the most cost effective manner.
Bank PHB was among the financial institutions not given a chance to survive the Soludo solution to the ailing banking industry, but the bank survived and waxed stronger, closing as one of the fastest growing banks among others. The stiff competition in the industry post consolidation notwithstanding, the bank has continued to evolve new strategies that would ultimately lead to achieving its aim of being among the dominant financial institutions in the country. A very significant strategy of the bank is its determination to further open its revenue base.
With total assets increasing at a cumulative average growth rate 103 per cent in the last five years, about four times higher than the average growth rate of 27 percent recorded in the same period by the Nigerian banking industry, Bank PHB ranks among Nigeria’s fastest growing banks. Bank PHB’s total assets and contingents stood at N480 billion as June 2007. This represents an average year on year growth rate of 155 percent.
The significance of the growth rate of Bank PHB can be measured against Nigeria’s economic growth rate that has averaged six percent within the same period and the average banking industry growth rate of 27 percent in the last five years. The faster growth rate of Bank PHB against the industry growth rate means it now ranks number eight in the Nigerian banking industry based on total assets and number seven based on profitability and earnings. The top ten banks in Nigeria control about 71 percent of the industry market share based on CBN data.
Bank PHB, also with current total market capitalization of N205 billion ranks among the top 20 most capitalized companies on the Nigerian Stock Exchange (NSE) which together control an average of 70 percent total market value and deals.
The 2007 Bank PHB financial report shows earning is growing at more than three times the Nigerian banking industry average growth rate. While the banking industry is growing earnings at an average rate of 12.41 percent in the last five years, Bank PHB earnings growth is 44.45 percent in the same period, three times higher.
Bank PHB announced earnings of N36 billion in June 2007 representing 172 percent increase over the bank’s N13 billion earnings made in June 2006. The bank’s earnings has shown a consistent increase in the last five years confirming the bank’s increasing market share in the Nigerian banking industry.
Within the same period, Bank PHB also announced a profit before tax of N10.28 billion in June 2007 representing an increase of 197 percent of over the similar profit of N3.25 billion in June 2006. This indicates a cumulative average growth rate of 119.13 percent for Bank PHB in the last five years about eight times higher than the banking industry average growth rate in profits of 14.16 percent. It shows a bank gaining efficiencies in its operations at a faster rate than the banking industry.
Underlying the bank’s rising earnings and profits are signs of significant efficiency gains. The bank’s cost to income ratio has been kept on the downward trend slipping from 74 percent of total earnings in 2006 to 72 percent in 2007. It was a high of 93 percent of total earnings in 2002, a clear indication of the success of management’s cost reduction strategy. The success has translated into an increasing freeing up of earnings to reward shareholders as net profit margins has doubled from a low of 10.57 percent in 2005 to 21.43 percent in 2007.
Bank PHB’s management has been able to keep costs under control and expand profits in the last five years despite growing total assets (including contingents) by 3,329 percent from N14 billion in June 2002 to N480 billion in June 2007. Within the same period, Bank PHB has also grown its capital and reserves (capital base) by 4411 percent from N798 million in June 2002 to N36.19 billion.
Bank PHB made a significant 181 percent increase in deposit liabilities in 2007 to N307 billion and a cumulative average growth of 154 percent per annum in the last five years. This has seen deposits rise from N15 billion in 2003 to its current level of N307 billion, an overall arithmetic increase of 1947 percent within the period.
Bank PHB projects earnings to grow at a cumulative average rate of 35 percent between 2008 and 2010 to hit a high of N174 billion by 2010. This earnings growth projection is considered conservative considering the bank has grown earnings at cumulative average rate of 44 percent in the last five years and by more than 100 percent in the last two years.
The bank is also projecting profit after tax to grow at an average rate of 44 percent in the next two years, rising to N36 billion by 2010. This is conservative estimate considering that profit after for Bank PHB has grown at an average rate of 119 percent in the five years and by more than one percent in each of the last two years.
I already know that this informtion will create frenzy on Bank PHB shares but remember that oversubscription leads to 25% more being absorbed only.
Happy Investing
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blest (m)
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I an strongly against anybody participating in he Orient Refinery's PP.Reasons.1)Profit margins in the down stream sector throughout the world is reducing everyday.Nigeria's halfhearted deregulation makes it worse.Have u wondered why the likes of Shell etc don't have refineries in Nigeria when they have in other countries? 2)Building a refinery is a very long term project.Your health(BP) might not last long enough for u to see the refinery work.Funding projects like this belong to institutional investors ,not individuals.PP's for banks etc can take ages before u get certificates,how long will it take a refinery?PP's are loosely or not even regulated.Please,your family still needs u.But if u have some money u can afford to throw away,u can take the risk.It might be woth it.
i feel the same way damoche, the risk is too high especially due to the poor regulation in the oil and gas industry. Like u said no wonder shell has no refinery here. 
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upward (m)
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Hello all, Please the Zenith PO is finally here, Oga Ololufemi, I hail-oh. Please anyone have news about BONUS??? Are they or are they not giving BONUSES???
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wanaj0
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Welcome to the world of executive recruitment/head-hunting I don't know sha but i think Zenith can afford to pay a couple of million pounds i meant naira  to these head-hunters to find someone with the right calibre and experience to run the bank when Ovia decides to take the back seat. Or we don't have such coys in nigeria who can do this? if that is the case may be that is something i need to start thinking about Not too sure that the next CEO has to come from inside Zenith but then i suppose it's going to be a bit of a challenge to get someone in from the 'heavy-weight' banks to run Zenith just my thoughts by the way BTW:Read that Orient refinery (hoping to be first refinery in naija) is doing a private placement of 50kobo ordinary shares at N100 per share and the minimum application is for 1,000 units(a lot cheaper than MTN  ) and UBA Global Markets are the finacial advisers. The refinery will be producing 55,000bpd and hoping to come on stream in early '09. At least since it's privately owned we would not have to put up with the horror stories we have had with our 'refineries The offer closes end of December An outsider coming to run Zenith is not going to be that smooth. Not with the current shareholding structure. Jim will still wield too much influence. That's why I liked GTB. The shareholding structure by the promoters makes things quite easy. Moreover they've all kept 'faith' with the initial agrrement. Yes, they do executive head hunting in Nigeria. Very common indeed. Check the move of WAPCo's MD to Obajana!!!! On Orient, I will say a no no!!!!!! Yet to see the prospectus but nothing attractive about that project. Third time that they will be raising money. Not sure of the success of the previous ones. To start with, no pipeline around that area. So crude supply and product distribution will be a problem. Secondly, there is no port around them so the infrastructural cost will be huge. They can't break even in a deregulated market like the one that we have now. The project is fraught with a lot of issues. Moreover, the private placment that they are doing will likely be for the Refinery and not for the holding company! The holding company may have more potential. @ Pumping777,
Thanks a lot Pumping for those words of wisdom.
I just want to let the house know a few things here.
I remember that some few years ago at IBTC (old Investment Banking and Trust Company) people thought that Atedo Peterside did not have a succession plan for his bank and that he was majorly the face of the bank.
At that time, th bank shares were sold at an IPO price of N4.30.
I would like to say that currently, it is a subsidiary of a global bank and he still remains the largest individual shareholder and he is also the bank's chairman.
Sola David Borha pioneered the bank with him and was relatively unknown to most people until recently when she was appointed MD and CEO.
The same can be said of GTB also.
look into the history of Zentih and find out the pioneers of the bank and whatb their vision is for the bank. I am sur you will be surprised that there is a well laid out plan for succession.
Remember nobody lives forever and the best organisations are those that outlive their founders.
None of the current players in Zenith is a major shareholder. On IBTC, sorry, Borha was not a key player. Check out Edun's name. Olawale Edun was next to Peterside on the succession list. IBTC/Standard Bank merger is baiscally Peterside's way of saying he is out of the banking sector!!! Don't see Borha lasting on that seat. Peterside was not happy with the consolidation programme. He was not willing to get involved with retail banking either. Merger with Standard was a profitable way of saying bye! It has nothing to do with succession planning. Zenith currently has a DMD. Not sure how much clout he will possess if Jim leaves. Will he be able to stand up to Jim? Don't think so knowing the amount of shares that Jim and his brothers have among themselves.
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ololufemi
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@ Upward,
Zenith declared a bonus and dividend payment for the last Financial Year. The cost for these two muchas have been deducted already. that made the price to fall from the all time high of N68 to N4X. This should be credited soon but it still is an issue I have with these companies.
It takes them time to credit your bonus shares. I still dey wait for my GTB, BCC, First bank, etc.
Pray they do soon.
Happy investing this christmas oh.
@ All,
Heard from the grapevine that Zenith is rewarding its employees with 1% of whatever amount is sourced by them during the Public offer.
This has been a strategy they adopted for the last one and may lead to serious oversubscription oh.
Their marketers are so aggressive in terms of marketing.
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pumping777 (m)
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Anybody watching OandO?  ? Now close to 110.00. If you bought last week, you should be having over 25% now. Did anyone pick this up with their charts and trends?  I commented on this a few weeks ago. I joined the ship 3 weeks ago @N77. I'm jumping ship today after over 40%. No liver again. AP is the main driver in the sector especially with Otedola. As AP continues to head north Oando and Total are bound to follow. Expections of companies moving from marketing to downstream oil sector. This is an area where an Oteodola advantage is expected. AP is bidding to take over some Shell infrastructure. However, Oando is ahead of AP in terms of earnings and I've seen a presentation of their strategic business plan. So if AP is moving so is OandO. Also Oando still has a much lower projected PE than AP. 30 to 22.
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ololufemi
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@ Pumping,
Olawale Edun was a key player but he left. Others too include Taiwo who is at First Capital. She stayed with the likes of Yinka Sanni and others. I am aware that Wale Edun was a major shareholder but he left the bank. I looked at the holding for the past 6 years and she stood out as the next largest single shareholder who was still in employment at the bank after Atedo Peterside.
Thanks
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ololufemi
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@ Pumping,
Oga Pumping what is your take or feeling about Bank PHB currently.
Na the first question I go ask you today be this oh.
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ololufemi
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@ Pumping,
Second Question: What is your analysis of flourmills. (Short term and Long term)
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upward (m)
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Thanks Ololufemi, so I can sell my Zenith, to buy more from the PO??? That was why i asked, because teh bonus hasn't been credited me, but since the dates have passed, what sayest thou?
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Naijadr (f)
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looks like I'm going to pick up more Nig-German shares if it drops down to N23, or even N22, I like what I'm seeing so far got it at N16.7 previously
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