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Femtex (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7552 on: December 12, 2007, 04:42 PM »

Quote from: easimoni on December 12, 2007, 04:33 PM
Body dey for cloth. This dramatic change of weather for your town na something o! Leather jacket one day, t-shirt the next, rain coat the day after! O ga ju!

Thats the weather o, H-town weather is just unpredictable. I hope you are enjoying your stay in Houston.
help me
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7553 on: December 12, 2007, 04:45 PM »

@Easimoni and Grabdaloot
Quote from: grabdaloot on December 12, 2007, 04:04 PM
if it was for fundamentals alone i wouldn't touch INTERCONT with a ten-foot pole (PE is about 45), 19b shares outstanding, an investors nightmare, but looking at the RSI chart just now I see it still has some way to go might possibly get to N40. Present RSI is about 65 so it still has some way to go before it gets to 85. My suspicion, is that the stock is being manipulated to get to N40 and then, yes you guessed right tech.suspension for reconstruction. The mgmt of the bank is too wise to know that they can't handle 19+ billion shares. So just be careful there so you don't get caught out.

@Easimoni and Grabdaloot
I dont understand your suggestion on Intercontinental,What is RSI?Do you suggest we should sell now or if it climbs to N40.Because i listen to you all.I will like to have your email address,so that i will not be novice by your stock terms i.e PE,RSI and the rest.
Talktrue (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7554 on: December 12, 2007, 04:58 PM »

If no be say I be Igbo boy and na money matter be this I for don give up.
 I was just getting my feet on the ground on Fundamental anlysis you guys have kicked off on technical analysis. I'm yet to get a hang on excel (dropped it during computer class Cry ), I try to swim towards the beach and the waves suck e more towards the ocean. hmmm Money, Money, Money na you the cause all this, anyway I think is high time I started talking more and getting one on one info as the case maybe.

@easimoni, wanaj0, windywindy, pumping and fatherOF2 can I please get your contacts.
My mail is ochiking1 at yahoo. com

Thanks Guys
This Forum is much appreciated.
yodiyokun (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7555 on: December 12, 2007, 05:19 PM »

@ Easimoni and @Grab a loot

I just have 1 more week to go be4 i head of to vacation - I beg you go teachme this RSI well well oo.

@Easimonni, how do you have time to do all this studying,  Its amazing

Any little thing that is said on this forum - you pick it up and within a few days you are giving us lecture? ? Why I no get your kind brain  Shocked Shocked Huh

Mr. Risky
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7556 on: December 12, 2007, 05:22 PM »

easimoni,

So should one remain on board to be included in the proposed reconstruction in Intercon or take leave before the TS slams?

Your technical Analysis is superb.  Thanks for sharing.  And you and Pumping and others always share.
Regards, as I expect your reply.
yodiyokun (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7557 on: December 12, 2007, 05:43 PM »

Quote from: grabdaloot on December 12, 2007, 04:14 PM
for anyone that is interested, "Technical Analysis and Stock Market Profits by R Schabacker" really nice reading if you really want to understand technicals Undecided

Thank God for Oyinbo Library - My library has only 1 copy and I am reserving it.

Can you imagine the Man that wrote this book was born in 1885 Huh died in 1935 - What the?Huh??

This goes to show this RSI has been proven for almost a century - it obviously works!!!

The book may probably be out of print? but anyone with access to amazon should be able to get a used copy hopefully
easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7558 on: December 12, 2007, 05:45 PM »

Quote from: yodiyokun on December 12, 2007, 05:19 PM
@ Easimoni and @Grab a loot

I just have 1 more week to go be4 i head of to vacation - I beg you go teachme this RSI well well oo.

@Easimonni, how do you have time to do all this studying, Its amazing

Any little thing that is said on this forum - you pick it up and within a few days you are giving us lecture? ? Why I no get your kind brain Shocked Shocked Huh

My oga go soon call me to tell me my ranking is going down; that's why I have time 4 y'all.  Tongue Just kidding o. My ranking no go go down, l'agbara Jesu!

Anyway, sign up with Investopedia and download this article. The calculations and application of RSI and other indicators is included. If you join, you can downlad it as a PDF and take it on vacation with you (as any Efiko would  Wink). Read it on your flight (assume you are flying). Enjoy. then come back make we discuss how we fit use am make money.

http://www.investopedia.com/university/indicator_oscillator/
pumping777 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7559 on: December 12, 2007, 05:48 PM »

Quote from: yodiyokun on December 12, 2007, 05:43 PM
Thank God for Oyinbo Library - My library has only 1 copy and I am reserving it.

Can you imagine the Man that wrote this book was born in 1885 Huh died in 1935 - What the?Huh??

This goes to show this RSI has been proven for almost a century - it obviously works!!!

The book may probably be out of print? but anyone with access to amazon should be able to get a used copy hopefully

It's still in print. You can get it at amazon.com
Olonzo
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7560 on: December 12, 2007, 05:49 PM »

@ Easimoni

I beg where do you get the chart for NSE stocks, or is this derived from your own data.

PS na my in-law be your acc manager for Lead Capital so better corporate otherwise  Grin
yodiyokun (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7561 on: December 12, 2007, 05:55 PM »

Quote from: Olonzo on December 12, 2007, 05:49 PM
@ Easimoni

I beg where do you get the chart for NSE stocks, or is this derived from your own data.

PS na my in-law be your acc manager for Lead Capital so better corporate otherwise  Grin

@All -

Where will I get details on daily volumes and no of deals, 

I think I better start saving this on an excel spreadsheet ooo
yodiyokun (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7562 on: December 12, 2007, 06:01 PM »

any of the technical analysts read any of John Murphys books?

I wonder how good they are?
texas543 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7563 on: December 12, 2007, 06:05 PM »

Quote from: yodiyokun on December 12, 2007, 05:55 PM
@All -

Where will I get details on daily volumes and no of deals,

I think I better start saving this on an excel spreadsheet ooo


Some of these stockbrokers site should give you that info. You can register on trw-stockbrokers.com they will be giving you NSE market details daily.
easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7564 on: December 12, 2007, 06:07 PM »

Quote from: yodiyokun on December 12, 2007, 05:43 PM

The book may probably be out of print? but anyone with access to amazon should be able to get a used copy hopefully

I found it on Amazon but the review of it was not flattering. Turns out it speaks only about chart patterns and not about RSI, MACD and the like. Seems those indicators were invented after the author wrote this book. Thinking about settling for "Technical Analysis of the Financial Markets: A Comprehensive Guide to Trading Methods and Applications" by John Murphy. It seemed to get mostly solid reviews on Amazon.
VIPICO (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7565 on: December 12, 2007, 06:09 PM »


@Talktrue,

You'll be extra lucky if Pumping replies your mail. He never does mine. He just snubs
yodiyokun (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7566 on: December 12, 2007, 06:13 PM »

Who be dis na---------@VIPICO

Stop castigating Pumping.

If you send him an email - he will reply - although he is no way obligated to - abi u dey pay him salary?

You cant just ask an open ended question about contacts - who is gonna give you that in a faceless forum.

Besides check peoples profile you will see their emaill address listed.

Email them chikena - All the peeps I have emailed (very few) - have replied me.

bigjay01 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7567 on: December 12, 2007, 06:15 PM »

Quote from: VIPICO on December 12, 2007, 06:09 PM
You'll be extra lucky if Pumping replies your mail. He never does mine. He just snubs

Oh boy carry time ooo, how dare u want to knock or diss pumping777. He is highly respected on this forum. If he has to answer all emails, then he would need more than 24hrs of the day to do it.

Pumping, no mind am jare. If he hassle u anymore just tell me and I go buy the case from you.

VIPICO -  make I no vex for you ooooooo
easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7568 on: December 12, 2007, 06:15 PM »

Quote from: yodiyokun on December 12, 2007, 06:01 PM
any of the technical analysts read any of John Murphys books?

I wonder how good they are?

Read thru Amazon; his books got the best review. Will be buying the one in my last post.

Quote from: Olonzo on December 12, 2007, 05:49 PM
@ Easimoni
I beg where do you get the chart for NSE stocks, or is this derived from your own data.
PS na my in-law be your acc manager for Lead Capital so better corporate otherwise  Grin
Small world. Have not met her but she seems like a very pleasant and committed person. I've changed my mind about switching brokers coz of her.

Wanaj0 provided the price history and a work colleague provided the volumes history (2007 only). I programmed the data in Excel to generate the indicators. With all the data that flew around nairaland in the past 2 weeks, my s.sheet is now over 22MB! And it's still a work-in-progress.
pumping777 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7569 on: December 12, 2007, 06:20 PM »

Quote from: Talktrue on December 12, 2007, 04:58 PM
If no be say I be Igbo boy and na money matter be this I for don give up.
 I was just getting my feet on the ground on Fundamental anlysis you guys have kicked off on technical analysis. I'm yet to get a hang on excel (dropped it during computer class Cry ), I try to swim towards the beach and the waves suck e more towards the ocean. hmmm Money, Money, Money na you the cause all this, anyway I think is high time I started talking more and getting one on one info as the case maybe.

@easimoni, wanaj0, windywindy, pumping and fatherOF2 can I please get your contacts.
My mail is ochiking1 at yahoo. com

Thanks Guys
This Forum is much appreciated.


pumping777 (at) yahoo (dot) com
texas543 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7570 on: December 12, 2007, 06:20 PM »

Quote from: VIPICO on December 12, 2007, 06:09 PM
@Talktrue,

You'll be extra lucky if Pumping replies your mail. He never does mine. He just snubs

If it is nothing personal, you can ask on this forum, somebody else will reply you, not necessarily pumping
grabdaloot (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7571 on: December 12, 2007, 06:24 PM »

RSI- relative strenght index a kind of normalizing to show the momentum of stocks on a relative basis, kind of the PE ratio of technical analysis. Im trying to lay my hands on the revised edition the book to see how the no of deals is fully utilized. The FSDH daily update has all this information it is by far the most comprehensive out there. It even has open, high, low and close prices which can be used to evaluate other kinds of indicators. As for the banking sector I have my reservations but hey its personal but ill share the tip. If you read the propectus of most of the PO's of the banks they are all doing one thing investing in visibility ie increasing their branch networks. How this will affect their bottom line I can't say for sure but one thing that is certain is that more branches will mean higher operating cost thereby reducing the PAT but this is on a macro scale. If Zenith bank opens three branches on my street that doesn't mean I will open three more accounts but on the other hand they will have to maintain those three branches and pay the staff from my existing account operation. Get where I am heading. No doubt the potential for growth exists but man the PE of 90% of the banks is a crime. some people should be in jail for allowing the stock prices to get that high. I would rather put my money in an AGLEVENT whose dividend yeild is 5% than a UBA with a dividend yeild of 2%. Take NESTLE for instance paying a dividend of N10 and yet its price is still N240. If you go by the banking sector, a dividend of N1 puts your stock price at about N50 so NESTLE should be N500!! but it is not. Start to see the bigger picture. There should be a market correction soon if the results of these banks start surfacing. Just make sure your not caught out. Anybody ever wonder why Access bank's quarterly result is overdue? Huh
pumping777 (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7572 on: December 12, 2007, 06:27 PM »

Quote from: VIPICO on December 12, 2007, 06:09 PM
@Talktrue,

You'll be extra lucky if Pumping replies your mail. He never does mine. He just snubs

Wow. You have to be cautious when making these kind of statements. You've never sent me an email. I try to reply any email I get. I already saw you quoting someone out of context on the forum today and I feel you are not very cautious. Do you know what it means to be a snub ?  Angry Angry Angry

I reply the emails that I get. Not that I have all that much time, but that is the spirit of our association here. Even If I don't know, I will still reply and tell you so.
windywendy (f)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7573 on: December 12, 2007, 06:35 PM »

@Pumping777: abeg no mind the vipico jare. No one pays anyone on this forum for all of the self less and time consuming work and research they do. If someone is generous enough to continually find time to share information on the forum, why would anyone come to the conclusion that the person is a snub simply because he/she didn't respond to an email?

On the matter of DEAP CAPITAL's listing, I've just been informed by my broker that the listing has been postponed indefinitely. Shocked Could this be for real or is this just a diversion tactic Huh If the listing was going to be done today then I presume that they would have already met all of the  listing requirements. Why the sudden post-ponement, and indefinitely for that matter?
Talktrue (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7574 on: December 12, 2007, 06:37 PM »

Sorryoooo I never planned to generate wahala, abeg forgive the brother for rooting for me. I just wanted to build a powerlist of contacts in case of SOS.
@easimoni, fatherOF2, wanaj0 and windy I need your contact Abeg.

Pumping thanks, I have a feeling the young man didn't mean it as it sounds. Its my fault too for not checking your profile first (Did for the rest and they are all hidden).

@easimoni
" I will never let u go unless u bless me,
your excel skills are something else, even if u no want God go help me find you Smiley as for spammers this e-mail na for Nairaland so you are OYO

ochiking1 at yahoo. com
a blank mail with your nairaland username will do

Best regards
easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7575 on: December 12, 2007, 06:53 PM »

@ talktrue, how do you want me to "bless" u

easimoni2004 (at) yahoo dot com

@ grabdaloot, nice work. But you bought Intercontinental!  Huh I have one bank in mind with an RSI approaching 40. Been trading sideways for 4 months (shouldn't say the name b4 Pumping's zillions change the stock Tongue). MACD and SMAs show no divergence. What do u think as a short-term tech trade? Okay it's Diamond bankTongue  Kiss
ololufemi
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7576 on: December 12, 2007, 07:07 PM »

@ Easimoni,

I get the feeling that you are a financial analyst.

I am sure you have some excel sheets for this calculations. Share them.

The RSI involves a 14 day period showing the price increase and decrease.

Can you expantiate further on how this calculation is done.

Thanks
grabdaloot (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7577 on: December 12, 2007, 07:10 PM »

I said I wouldn't touch intercontinental with a 10ft pole and I mean it. In hind sight mabye I should have just taken the 30% it will yeild in the short term. As for diamond bank, it is kind of fairly price whether that is by design I do not know but one problem yes the GDR - and that is why I think it is by design if you want to sell your stock on the london stock exchange, no one would touch it if it is over priced. so trade carefully. From my own point of view, I don't see it appreciating much because with the GDR around the corner. Once your GDRed that is the end of mad appriciations of your stock (GTB, OANDO)
Talktrue (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7578 on: December 12, 2007, 07:11 PM »

@easi
Will be reaching you later.

Have been getting diamond for sometime now, had to stop because of this GDR thing, see what the thing did to my beloved GTB I dont know what effect it will have on Diamond.

Na for this kain things I need una expertise. What the likely effect of the GDR on diamond. Read something about the GDR translating to 16.50 and that its going to drag the price down.


Anyone notice linkage result, seems to me they are turning back to profitability.
Sterling bank na another matter wey I go need una help but na small small.

Over to una ( Diamond GDR abeg)
grabdaloot (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7579 on: December 12, 2007, 07:16 PM »

@ ololufemi

I am willing to bet you my last dime that easimoni is an engineer, we all know ourselves when we meet. I will tell you why. Financial analysts if you have ever met one are articulate but lazy. The FA definitely would NEVER use excel to do his analyses believe me when I tell you it is way way to tedious and requires a lot of discipline and tact to keep the sheet up to date. He would use the numerous softwares out there to do the same stuff. easimoni on the other hand is an engineer. We thrieve on excel, running marcos VB programs etc. If he would speak up then you would be rest assured. Cool
ololufemi
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7580 on: December 12, 2007, 07:32 PM »

@ Grab the loot,

Bring the loot I'm waiting for it. Anyway bros what are the stockpicks by you
grabdaloot (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7581 on: December 12, 2007, 07:43 PM »


@ololufemi
Stock picks on this forum Angry Angry Lips sealed, you are joking right??. Before finally deciding to break my vow of silence I have been sitting on the fence for some time and I have noticed all the complaints someone really has a deep pocket on these pages. Its hard to believe but it is ture. Might not be a blogger but just an observer. Folks here are pretty much on top of thier game when it comes to the stock market. Anyway after I have completed my buy orders, I'll check your profile and email you my own views. But hey I am no expert and don't know your investment objectives (capital gains, institutuional or dividend hunters) for all I know you might be the deep pocketed fella Shocked
FatherOF2
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7582 on: December 12, 2007, 07:45 PM »

I can see more short termers coming on board soon. RSI will just do the trick.
You'll learn to buy today and sell in two/three weeks(Thursday/friday in the NSE case).
Just ensure discipline in taking out your two/three week profit which ranges between 20-25%.
easimoni (m)
Re: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians
« #7583 on: December 12, 2007, 07:46 PM »

Quote from: grabdaloot on December 12, 2007, 07:16 PM
I am willing to bet you my last dime that easimoni is an engineer, we all know ourselves when we meet.

Yup Chemical and Petroleum engineer! Good guess.

Quote from: Talktrue on December 12, 2007, 07:11 PM
Na for this kain things I need una expertise. What the likely effect of the GDR on diamond. Read something about the GDR translating to 16.50 and that its going to drag the price down.

Rightly stated: at N120 to 1 USD, Diamond's GDR was N16.50 per share. Still the forward PE at N18.50 is below 20 based on the 6 month result and I think the FY will be more than 2X the 6 month. This is a fundamentally sound bank that seems to be oversold. Still, as u stated, the GDR seems to hinder most stocks
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