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babyosisi (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #64 on: November 28, 2006, 04:28 AM »

Quote from: Sista on November 28, 2006, 02:11 AM

This won't solve anything, if anything, it will create more and more hatred amongst blacks in Africa and blacks in America.

So many CA men marry women in America and yet they have wives at home. Another thing, AA women need to speak the language of the CA man if they even want to think about a successful marriage because if they can't speak his language, they will never be able to trust him.

The answer is not for AA women to give up and abandon in AA men. That is not what most of us AA women do anyhow. Mostly the weak AA men give up on the strong AA woman and they get them a so called well behaved White, Hispanic or Asian woman. Those relationships don't last for them either because any woman who has an ounce of sense is going to get tired of being thought of as a well trained or behaved counterpart, she mine as well be a dog.

You don't understand, the AA woman is not going to give up her strength, her strength is what helped her to last through physical slavery and still come out alive with her black skin in tact. She can't afford to so called behave because she is to used to keeping things right and in order, I mite ad, she has done a damned good job, couldn't have done it better. If the black AA male comes along and he steers the ship without asking the AA woman for anything, she will let him do his thing but he cannot be intimidated by her strength, he has to understand her if he wants her to understand him. After all, she (AA woman) was the only one who was there for him (AA man) to wipe his bloody wounds and give him water, when the white man gave him hell. She never gave up on him, even when he could not rescue her from being raped by the white man. We AA people have to much of a history to just be giving up on each other. Most of us accept each other as we are because we remember what we all suffered. Just like Babiosisi said AA women had to settle for AA men who were below them educational wise. Believe you me, even when they are settling, they still love that AA mans dirty draws and they don't see him as being below. Of course that is until he cheats, if he does. Grin

You made some very excellent points here sista.
I however disagree with you on the fact that AA women have to learn African language for the marriage to work,that's not true.
Both the man and the woman have to somehow adjust to the different cultures to make it work and both should be quick and eager learners.

I have a relative in Houston married to an AA woman for 25 years now.
She does not speak but can now understand Igbo,has visited Nigeria several times,she cooks goat peppersoup like any Igbo woman,has learnt our culture of family and their home is the central thanksgiving and Christmas  joint for my family in Houston.

'Aunty' as we all call here is a great woman,her husband also has adapted and learnt quickly the American way of doing dishes and not waiting to be constantly served by a woman which is our typical African culture.

No way will I advocate the AA woman abandon the AA man,however,we somehow have to break this cycle and I believe all of us on this thread can make a positive impact on one Child besides ours.
In my line of work,I come across young AA boys and girls daily and I make it an effort beyond my duty to ask them about school,college plans and encourage them to stay in school and make their parents proud.

I wept the day I found out one of my little 15 year old girls was pregnant and the sadness in her mothers face spoke volumes because statistically that would cascade into dependence on the welfare system and more babies except somehow there's an intervention.

As a black woman it saddens me greatly that the black men I see at my workplace are either cleaners,hospital mail runners and repairmen,where are the black male professionals?where are the black men in general?
There must be something we all can do and it starts with empowering just one young person.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #65 on: November 28, 2006, 04:31 AM »

@ sista,we may butt heads sometimes but we seem to be passionate about the same things.
I know and agee that the white man has done a lot of evil to blacks but we need to have the last laugh and prove them wrong.
We are just as smart as anyone else but we need to prove it.
How do we start?
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #66 on: November 28, 2006, 06:20 AM »

Babyosisi,

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I wept the day I found out one of my little 15 year old girls was pregnant and the sadness in her mothers face spoke volumes because statistically that would cascade into dependence on the welfare system and more babies except somehow there's an intervention.

What is wrong with babies? What is wrong with dependence on the welfare system? Why do we serve the God of mammon? By having these expectations of women not having babies when their body is programmed to do so, and then being surprised when another child is aborted to the God of mammon. Abort -- so you can have more money later in life!

Oops. Correction, turns out that the average Black woman who has a child young, is making the same amount of money by 30 that the women who did not have children are making. Study just came out. Wish I could find it for you. Sorry.

So please stop encouraging young black girls to not have babies.

As I say: Anybody coming to the Ghetto to tell Black Girls not to have their babies, should leave the Ghetto with at least one busted lip.

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As a black woman it saddens me greatly that the black men I see at my workplace are either cleaners,hospital mail runners and repairmen,where are the black male professionals?where are the black men in general?

Association of African American Professionals (AAAP)
http://www.aaprofessionals.org/index.html

African American Insurance Professionals
http://www.aaipa.org/

Just do a web search. You can find many of those type of professional associations. I didn't bother to list them all.

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There must be something we all can do and it starts with empowering just one young person.

I think the liberals in America, have already milked this cow. That ship has sailed. Every Ghetto in America is hard wired it seems to a huge social network, that "fix's" the people. LOL
Sista (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #67 on: November 28, 2006, 05:38 PM »

@Babiosisi

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I however disagree with you on the fact that AA women have to learn African language for the marriage to work,that's not true.
Both the man and the woman have to somehow adjust to the different cultures to make it work and both should be quick and eager learners.

I agree that the CA man should also compromise, I just didn't make it a point to mention that part being that the AA woman is the one who is being looked at as the one who needs to learn to obey.

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I have a relative in Houston married to an AA woman for 25 years now.
She does not speak but can now understand Igbo, and  visited Nigeria several times,she cooks goat peppersoup like any Igbo woman,has learnt our culture of family and their home is the central thanksgiving and Christmas  joint for my family in Houston.

Well, it is good that she understands Igbo. One either has to speak it or understand it.

However, I recall your saying yourself how important it is for the woman to speak the language as a matter a fact, you spoke highly of the White women, the oyibo women who learn very well how to speak the language which also contributed to successful interracial marriages amongst some whites and Nigerians. Correct me if I am wrong.

Any way, I am very happy to hear that your relative and the AA woman have been married for so long and seem to be very happy and doing well.

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'Aunty' as we all call here is a great woman,her husband also has adapted and learnt quickly the American way of doing dishes and not waiting to be constantly served by a woman which is our typical African culture.

He must really love her because I have seen no Igbo man adapt to washing the dishes and not waiting on the woman to do all of the work. However, I do not know them all Grin

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No way will I advocate the AA woman abandon the AA man,however,we somehow have to break this cycle and I believe all of us on this thread can make a positive impact on one Child besides ours.

Agreed


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In my line of work,I come across young AA boys and girls daily and I make it an effort beyond my duty to ask them about school,college plans and encourage them to stay in school and make their parents proud.

That's all good but as a black boy child, school most of the time, especially if the father is not in the home and the mother works to hard, school for the young black boy is not something that looks like it will get him out of the ghetto. To him, if he is not playing sports, or if he is not into music, he is staying rite there in that ghetto. People giving him advice instead of hands on help only makes him continue to feel that he must some how suffer alone and  that feeling creates more discouragement. This is why single black mothers go through many measures for their boys, it takes a strong black woman to fully raise a boy child into a man. It happens but not as often as it used to.


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I wept the day I found out one of my little 15 year old girls was pregnant and the sadness in her mothers face spoke volumes because statistically that would cascade into dependence on the welfare system and more babies except somehow there's an intervention.

Some girls get on welfare for a while but believe you me, those statistics are not correct. A lot of these young black girls get jobs and go back to school. I had my child at the age 18, I was on welfare for a year but then again I wasn't really on it because my daughters father was paying me more than welfare in child support, (long story) but anyway, I got off of the system in one year and I haven't been back on it sense. My daughter is now 14 years of age and she is the only child I have.

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As a black woman it saddens me greatly that the black men I see at my workplace are either cleaners, hospital mail runners and repairmen, where are the black male professionals? Where are the black men in general?
There must be something we all can do and it starts with empowering just one young person.

What is wrong with a black man being a cleaner, hospital mail runner and repairman? A job is a job and if that type of job is paying the bills and putting food on the table and clothes on the body, it's all good. We can't expect our men to take care of their self and then go about telling them which types of jobs they would even be more so proud to have. If they accept who they are and what they do and it's not illegal, we have to accept them as they are. It is not about social status or higher status, it is about acceptance. Every black man can't have a professional job, if they did, there would be no need for the types of non professional jobs you named. Did you know that back in the days black men had jobs like shoe shine man and Door man and Porter? Back in the days, white men would not be caught with those kinds of jobs but today if you look around you white men have those kinds of jobs. Black people cannot afford to see each other as being above each other because of educational status or employment status. No matter which part of the ladder we stand on, we can all contribute to the uplift of the black community.


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@ sista,we may butt heads sometimes but we seem to be passionate about the same things.
I know and agee that the white man has done a lot of evil to blacks but we need to have the last laugh and prove them wrong.
We are just as smart as anyone else but we need to prove it.
How do we start?

I am very happy to see you saying we, that makes me feel good.

However, I don't think we need to prove anything to white people, white people already know what we are capable of, that is why they have the mass weapons of global destruction. At this point, we need to be proving to our selves that even if we don't have weapons or  money, we still have our minds. I think that is what we need to prove to our selves. We seem to have forgotten that we are the originals and that is how God ordained it.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #68 on: November 28, 2006, 06:20 PM »

babyosisi said

I wept the day I found out one of my little 15 year old girls was pregnant and the sadness in her mothers face spoke volumes because statistically that would cascade into dependence on the welfare system and more babies except somehow there's an intervention.

drusilla replied.

What is wrong with babies? What is wrong with dependence on the welfare system? Why do we serve the God of mammon? By having these expectations of women not having babies when their body is programmed to do so, and then being surprised when another child is aborted to the God of mammon. Abort -- so you can have more money later in life!

Oops. Correction, turns out that the average Black woman who has a child young, is making the same amount of money by 30 that the women who did not have children are making. Study just came out. Wish I could find it for you. Sorry.

So please stop encouraging young black girls to not have babies.

As I say: Anybody coming to the Ghetto to tell Black Girls not to have their babies, should leave the Ghetto with at least one busted lip.

@ drusilla,after the above response,I refuse to take you seriously henceforth.
you are nothing but a joke.

babyosisi (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #69 on: November 28, 2006, 06:23 PM »

sista said

What is wrong with a black man being a cleaner, hospital mail runner and repairman? A job is a job and if that type of job is paying the bills and putting food on the table and clothes on the body, it's all good. We can't expect our men to take care of their self and then go about telling them which types of jobs they would even be more so proud to have. If they accept who they are and what they do and it's not illegal, we have to accept them as they are. It is not about social status or higher status, it is about acceptance. Every black man can't have a professional job, if they did, there would be no need for the types of non professional jobs you named. Did you know that back in the days black men had jobs like shoe shine man and Door man and Porter? Back in the days, white men would not be caught with those kinds of jobs but today if you look around you white men have those kinds of jobs. Black people cannot afford to see each other as being above each other because of educational status or employment status. No matter which part of the ladder we stand on, we can all contribute to the uplift of the black community.

@ sista there is nothing wrong with being a cleaner but everything wrong with not applying oneself with the resources available to reach ones fullest potential.
Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #70 on: November 28, 2006, 06:39 PM »

You just discovered Drusilla was a joke?, Welcome to 4 weeks ago!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #71 on: November 28, 2006, 06:52 PM »

Babyosisi,

Why are you so intolerant of people having a different opinion than you?

I don't agree with your Murder-Death-Kill "solution" for Black American Babies and family's.

So therefore I am the joke?

Your MDK "solution" is the joke.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #72 on: November 28, 2006, 06:57 PM »

@ drusilla did you see me mention anywhere about murder and death.
You really do amaze me
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #73 on: November 28, 2006, 06:59 PM »

When we had you as slaves and made money off black babies:

We raped you to ensure more Black babies come in this world.

Now that your black babies might cost us some welfare dollars, could you stop having those black children? It would solve all your problems.

I wish this was a joke. Yet this is seriously the plan in America, to fix the "innercity" problem.

Get rid of black babies -- it would make the world so much better for you.

Sorry. Drusilla crazily -- (ain't she wacky) doesn't agree with that plan.
Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #74 on: November 28, 2006, 07:00 PM »

@Drusilla

Encouraging 15 year old kids to have kids with kids who have no jobs and source of livelihood is a disgrace. Again, I knew you had it losoe sometime ago,
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #75 on: November 28, 2006, 07:05 PM »

Donzman,

African Americans were slaves i.e. VERY BROKE people and we still had children for 2 and a half centuries.

Our history teaches us that having children with no money, can be done and we been doing it for centuries.

No disgrace just survival.
Sista (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #76 on: November 28, 2006, 07:09 PM »

@Babiosisi


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@ sista there is nothing wrong with being a cleaner but everything wrong with not applying oneself with the resources available to reach ones fullest potential.

I hear what you are saying Babiosisi but do you think that all black men should be in the professional fields, is that realistic? I can see Black men doing some of everything as long as what they do is able to provide them with what is they need and want. However, some people don't want to go through all the pressures of what it takes to be in the professional fields. For some people, their fullest potential is to retire from those non professional jobs you mentioned and dedicate their life to their families

What about back home in Nigeria? Some of those people will never get lucky enough to leave Nigeria and come to America or go to Europe to get those fancy jobs and education but would they even care if it wasn't for the competition of climbing to the top of the social status ladder? I say get lucky but I don't mean they would be lucky to leave Nigeria. A lot of people think it is a blessing from God to get to leave Nigeria and go get a so called education, when their is already education in Nigeria. I say why would God bless one and not bless the others? I don't think getting lucky has anything to do with being blessed because those ones who are still in Nigeria, to me, even if they are not getting white people educated or have great jobs, they are still blessed to be alive and able to make a way to keep living. 

That is why if our people are healthy and content, we should not encourage them to come out of that mode because we think or feel they are not at their full potential. One can never stop striving for a full potential but is life really meant for striving to have and obtain all that you can obtain and consume while hear on earth? For some of us yes, but not for all of us.

You seem to be very happy and striving for all that you can obtain Babiosisi but not everyone wants to consume some people just want a simple life and we have to respect and accept the brothers and sisters who are happy with that kind of life, as long as it is legal and will not harm then or anyone else.
Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #77 on: November 28, 2006, 07:15 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on November 28, 2006, 07:05 PM
Donzman,

African Americans were slaves i.e. VERY BROKE people and we still had children for 2 and a half centuries.

Our history teaches us that having children with no money, can be done and we been doing it for centuries.

No disgrace just survival.

Yeah, you can keep having children without money and continue living in deplorable conditions or you can stop and better yourselves in the land of plenty.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #78 on: November 28, 2006, 07:25 PM »

Donzman,

2006 -- 21 to 26 percent of African Americans recieve any welfare benefits --are poor.

1965 -- 95% of African Americans were poor.

40+ percent of African Americans are said to be in the middle or upper classes.
47 percent or so own their own houses.

Think about that. Those 40+ percent home owners and middle and upper class blacks, that now exist must have come from Ghetto Homes.

So apparently Blacks are not having any trouble transitioning from the "by Law" held in poverty slave class, to the middle and upper class's.

But thanks for your Johnny come lately idea, that we should better ourselves in the land of plenty, since they freed us from slavery in 1965.
Sista (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #79 on: November 28, 2006, 07:35 PM »

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Yeah, you can keep having children without money and continue living in deplorable conditions or you can stop and better yourselves in the land of plenty.


What about those Africans who live in Africa, the land of all plenty? Those older African men and women who are not in their teens, they keep having baby's, they don't have an education and they don't have a welfare system. Many of them live in deplorable conditions, would you tell them to stop having baby's even when they have shown that even with with all the odds against them, they managed to make a way to raise those baby's? Remember in Africa, you may live in the land of plenty but you don't live the life of living in the land of plenty. So, do you really have a choice?


If you have unprotected sex, no matter the age, no matter the financial or education status,  your taking a chance of getting pregnant. The answer is not to encourage young girls that having baby's is a bad idea. The answer is to let them see that they have all the time in the world to get pregnant and for now, they need to be responsible enough to plan for a baby, instead of accidentally having one. Caution against unprotected sex is the answer. At least until they are old enough to take care of their self, and not be living with Mommy when they are about to become a Mommy.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #80 on: November 28, 2006, 07:48 PM »

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If you have unprotected sex, no matter the age, no matter the financial or education status,  your taking a chance of getting pregnant. The answer is not to encourage young girls that having baby's is a bad idea. The answer is to let them see that they have all the time in the world to get pregnant and for now, they need to be responsible enough to plan for a baby, instead of accidentally having one. Caution against unprotected sex is the answer. At least until they are old enough to take of their self, and not be living with Mommy when they are about to become a Mommy.

Sista,

If they do not live with their mama's when they have babies, who will help with the babies?

Older senior Black women are said to be the poorest part of Blacks in America. (You know maids did not get any 401k plans from whites when they were young 40 + years ago)

Why not help with the babies? And of course that is exactly what is happenning. Older Black women are stepping in and getting custody of their grandchildren. 500 per child is certainly better than what welfare would give to the Mama, for SEVERAL children.

So why not have the baby at home when you are young and your body is best for having children?

Give the baby to mama. She can get a lot of money for it and you can finish your education and get a job.

Living with their mama is probably the reason, those who have babies and those who don't are making the same amount of money by time their 30. And as you know, Black Women make more than white women in this country now.

So there have been no ill effects of having babies. Older Black Women, our mama's are a human resource, we inherited.

Praise God for them.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #81 on: November 28, 2006, 08:01 PM »

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What about those Africans who live in Africa, the land of all plenty? Those older African men and women who are not in their teens, they keep having baby's, they don't have an education and they don't have a welfare system. Many of them live in deplorable conditions, would you tell them to stop having baby's even when they have shown that even with with all the odds against them, they managed to make a way to raise those baby's. Remember in Africa, you may live in the land of plenty but you don't live the life of living in the land of plenty. So, do you really have a choice?

Sista,

As the saying goes: When you dig my grave, dig two graves. The other one is for you.
Sista (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #82 on: November 28, 2006, 08:44 PM »

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If they do not live with their mama's when they have babies, who will help with the babies?



They can live off campus and drop the baby off to Grandma for grandma to help. They shouldn't be cocking their legs open if they can't take full responsibility enough to have their own home in which they can have all the sex they want to have. Having sex in your mamas home is not respectful and it is not an act of being responsible. Besides, it shouldn't just be on the mother of the daughter to take care of the grandchild, both grandparents should be helping with the baby from both sides, the mama and the daddy. You can't tell a child to have a baby young so she can still be living at home getting help from her mother. The whole idea of making a family is to be with the family who is making the baby, mother and father, not mother and grandmother.

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Why not help with the babies? And of course that is exactly what is happenning. Older Black women are stepping in and getting custody of their grandchildren. 500 per child is certainly better than what welfare would give to the Mama, for SEVERAL children.


Don't' get me wrong, all the family members who are able should be helping with the baby's but you don't have to live with your mother for her to help you. If you are having sex, you are doing a woman's act and two women in the house having sex will not do - Especially if one of the women are adult aged and the other is in her teens still having sex and thinking she is grown while under the roof of her own mother, who is the real adult of the house.

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So why not have the baby at home when you are young and your body is best for having children?


I had my baby at age 18 and I moved out at age 17. I haven't been back home to my mother or father sense the day I moved out. My mother helped a lot with my child but I did no live with her. My dauthers grandmohter on her fathers side, she helped more than my mother did. Any way, I wanted to keep having sex with my daughters father and I could not do that under  my parents roof. I wanted to do what women did so I had to pay the consequences, I had to move away from home. If I didn't move from home, my mother would have treated me like a child in front of my child and I was not going to have that. So, if a young girl wants to have baby's and still live with her mother, she is going to have to accept that from time to time, she will be viewed a still a child herself, although she has her own child. If she can tolerate being treated like a child in front of her own child, I wish her well.

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Give the baby to mama. She can get a lot of money for it and you can finish your education and get a job.


Mama already raised her own kids. Do you really think it is right or fare that she has to raise another child so her child can finally make up her mind to finish her education when she should have thought about that before opening her legs and having unprotected sex? The whole idea is for the mother of the child to raise and bond as a mother to her own child. A child should not be getting mixed messages about who is the mother.

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Living with their mama is probably the reason, those who have babies and those who don't are making the same amount of money by time their 30. And as you know, Black Women make more than white women in this country now
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I haven't seen the statistics on this but I would still say that, if that is the case, why not just wait then to have a baby? If it is all he same result?

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So there have been no ill effects of having babies. Older Black Women, our mama's are a human resource, we inherited.


Daddy not being included is the ill affect. I noticed you talked about the mother of the girl having the baby, being the one to take care of the baby, you didn't mention the father at all and you didn't mention his mother helping out with his baby as well.

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Sista,

As the saying goes: When you dig my grave, dig two graves. The other one is for you

Yes, I was looking at both sides, playing devils advocate.

Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #83 on: November 28, 2006, 09:23 PM »

Sista,

Smile. You sound like my 61 year old Auntie. She makes the same "Mama's house" argument.

Can't say I disagree. Smile.

However, when her 14 year old granddaughter got pregnant, she just had to deal with it. Even though she would have never did that in her Mama's house and to her Mama! The girl and the baby still live with her, the baby is about 5. Smile.

In my aunt's case, the boy's mother was a white woman and she helped some but I have seen her ignore him in a restaurant even though she knew he was there. Apparently it was a guess whose coming to dinner moment for her and the person she was dining with.

Although normally, I expect a lot of help from the boy's family. As another neice now, never has her baby, the mother of the boy keeps the baby for her to go to school.

I amend my comments to include the father and the well known extended family of Black Americans. Smile.

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I haven't seen the statistics on this but I would still say that, if that is the case, why not just wait then to have a baby? If it is all he same result?

My personal preference is to be 36 years old and have 4 kids and the youngest be 20 years old. I am so jealous of all my girlfriends who did not wait and are now "done", their kids are grown and off having their own children. And their only to happy to be involved in their grandbabies lives as a pecking hen. Smile.

I am so jealous. I want some grandchildren. I almost have to stop myself from pushing my teenage sons to hurry up and give me some grandchildren. I encourage them all the time by saying I will sign for them to get married and I will take care of the baby why he and her attend college.

People are what's important in this world, not how much money you make.
delf747 (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #84 on: November 28, 2006, 09:30 PM »

@All

A women's menstrual cycle is linked to the moon.

It does not matter what you think.

It does not matter what 'race' you are.

Once that cycle begins you are free to have children.

It is not a question of economics.

 
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #85 on: November 28, 2006, 09:35 PM »

LOL SMILE

Delf747 it might be true but it is still funny.
delf747 (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #86 on: November 28, 2006, 09:46 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on November 28, 2006, 09:35 PM
LOL SMILE

Delf747 it might be true but it is still funny.

LOL.

Drusilla,

The cosmos is the most powerful thing.

As an African woman you will understand this (?).

It is why so many women are into astrology/horoscopes.

It is why we should live our lives closer to nature.

Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #87 on: November 28, 2006, 10:00 PM »

Delf747,

But of course.

I think it is pretty terrible that the body or "nature" begins preparation for a boy and a girl to have babies from the age of 10 to 14.

Then we set a different standard from "nature" that a girl and boy should wait until they are 22 and finished with college.

Then we act shocked, when "nature" has a way of being so powerful that we end up with lots of babies by people shortly after the preparation age ends, according to nature's schedule.

Whites and those who follow in their ways, wait so long. Their countries are now depopulating. As the article about Japan says: The young people do not want to get married and have children. So they expect a population cut by huge amounts shortly. Their closing schools and opening nursing homes. Their paying women to have children. Their encouraging Japanese men to marry outside of the Japanese but not Asian race. Korean women are imported there too.

The idea of waiting, does not seem to be beneficial to those who swear by it.

Sorry, I don't consider their "ways" to be the right way that Black people should go. Smile.
delf747 (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #88 on: November 28, 2006, 10:37 PM »

Drusilla,

I agree with you on this.

When I see adverts filled with 'independent' women it makes me sad.

It is all about lifestyle and career.

It is all vanity and the superficial.

Lessons need to be learned.

It can only result in good things I think.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #89 on: November 28, 2006, 10:42 PM »

Delf747,

That's all I am saying, really. Let's pay attention and not walk off the cliff following behind others.

Smile
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #90 on: November 28, 2006, 10:53 PM »

Quote
Their encouraging Japanese men to marry outside of the Japanese but not Asian race. Korean women are imported there too.


It was these same Japanese that refuses to give foreigners leave to stay in Japan, those who think they know every thing always fail. The Germans said they are the Aryan race The finest and the most intelligent, Now the German women are among the uglyest in the world, so they want to mix now, those who think they know everything most of the times ends up being the fool.

Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #91 on: November 28, 2006, 11:02 PM »

Quote from: Sista on November 28, 2006, 07:35 PM

What about those Africans who live in Africa, the land of all plenty? Those older African men and women who are not in their teens, they keep having baby's, they don't have an education and they don't have a welfare system. Many of them live in deplorable conditions, would you tell them to stop having baby's even when they have shown that even with with all the odds against them, they managed to make a way to raise those baby's? Remember in Africa, you may live in the land of plenty but you don't live the life of living in the land of plenty. So, do you really have a choice?

Yeah, Africa is land of plenty, come and get yours. Silly dumbass,take a breakm, come down to Africa and show me where this plenty is?, In the Sahara that covers a good portion of the continent?
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #92 on: November 28, 2006, 11:04 PM »

925,

And you know this.  Cheesy
Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #93 on: November 28, 2006, 11:17 PM »

Quote from: Drusilla on November 28, 2006, 07:25 PM
Donzman,

2006 -- 21 to 26 percent of African Americans recieve any welfare benefits --are poor.

1965 -- 95% of African Americans were poor.

40+ percent of African Americans are said to be in the middle or upper classes.
47 percent or so own their own houses.

Think about that. Those 40+ percent home owners and middle and upper class blacks, that now exist must have come from Ghetto Homes.

So apparently Blacks are not having any trouble transitioning from the "by Law" held in poverty slave class, to the middle and upper class's.

But thanks for your Johnny come lately idea, that we should better ourselves in the land of plenty, since they freed us from slavery in 1965.

Yeah that would have been a great stat. for a dumbass who doesn't look at articles and willing to swallow anything you feed them. I just read an article on BET about a study just released, 1 million blacks have fallen below the poverty level in the past year. How can you be in AMERICA and be falling below the poverty level?, Mexicans, Africans come there and eke out a good living. You citizens are slipping below the poverty level, come on!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #94 on: November 28, 2006, 11:39 PM »

Donzman,

Stop being silly.

There are 40 million African Americans.

Your talking about a 5 million or less in poverty.

African Americans are worried about our poor people, and we put our money where our MOUTH is, we are the biggest givers to charity in America, percentage wise.

Then we give most of our voting support to democrats even though we are the most conservative christians in America. (don't agree with gay/abortion thing of democrats)

We do that for poor people, since democrats even among republicans are voted the ones most likely to help the poor.

Simply put

-- 1000+ scriptures about the poor.
--  Less than 20 about gay/abortion.

God emphasized in the bible, helping the poor.

I'mma go with God.
Donzman (m)
Re: Drusilla's Imperfection
« #95 on: November 28, 2006, 11:49 PM »

How can you claim you're making progress when a million of you have slipped into poverty in the past year. Since when did progress imply slipping?

Aren't you white by the way Drusilla?
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