Social Networking Dilema Feat Drupal Vs Joomla

Sometimes I cringe when I hear Joomla. It is just toooooooooooooooooo heavy. But I guess sthat is what makes it robust.

Those with not that much experience with Joomla! tend to weigh it down with unnecessary plugins, etc.  Also, they don't seem to know that you can switch from tables to CSS layout, the former which makes it heavy and slow to load.

I haven't used Drupal so I can't speak for it.  I am made to understand that there is a lot of customization when using it, unlike Joomla!  The lazy coder in me says go with Joomla! + CB.  I have used it on a project and but for some cross-browser compatibility issues, I was up and running, including installing my own layout, in 30 minutes or less.  If you have the money or your client does, there is a paid social networking plugin for joomla!  though I forget the name.  I hear it is more flexible than CB.  I didn't have the money to spare and so have never used it

Again, call me lazy but the days of coding straight (D/X)HTML when there are more efficient alternatives, are over.  No need reinventing the wheel or trying to compete with Mark Zuckerberg or Zeus.  We live in the days of KISS and DRY and as I told a fellow NLer recently, I will stick by these principles until the day I retire.

Exactly yawatide, these dayz too, i am getting rather lazy coding straight dhtml projects, not when i am being overwhelmed by projects.
As for joomla, i think i am at least ok with using and building my own packages now.

And i have found a way to import in all of my former
classes both client and server sided, so my former functions like $username=select_single("firstname from users where id='1' "); and others
for those that copied some of my functions then can now work with joomla. I have studied the joomla framework enough to know how to
plugin my own stuffs without disturbing the basic joomla stuffs, plugins and all work as they should. Plus more interesting, i was able to plugin
my own paginators (both ajax and php) so that i can move my old projects into joomla with great ease and still utilize the functionalities of joomla
when needed.

ok Dynamic Hyper text markup language
I hear you
good luck bro but I am personally building my own CMS that fits my needs. I am tired of consuming from the west. my personal  view.
Mainly because those Joomla and co were not made with Africa and our environment as a factor of the production

hey web 0.2 lol
anyway I get you boss.
I am building a proprietory platform with a strong goal. but I will love to work with partners, but on strict legal basis.
you can hit me on my company email mambenanje is at afrovisiongroup dot com
regards

I understand why you dont understand.
yes I don come again lol. I got time to chat abit
Ok do you know the bandwidth I have here in Cameroon ??
Do you know exactly the modules that my 60+ websites and clients need ??
Do you think the Joomla developers know what works in Africa ??
Joomla was not built for the needs I am facing here and trying to bend it will not make it work.
hope expatriate is the english for what I just did above
and Boss please show ya sef on naijaborn.com ooh lol

well its not a blanket statement
its similar to saying everyone in USA is on facebook.
not 100% but its a true statement.
Yawa me and you again nah wa oh.
I hope when naijaborn gets its developer API you will contribute your own applications lol

Dynamic HTML your the best
show ya sef too on naijaborn.com

ooh sorry ooh
I just check and I see you showing ya sef. man you are real cute lol
here on NL I only see your nick name and cant realy connect with you. But now I know the man
your looking fyne
thanks for showing ya sef!!!!

@ yawa-ti-de i think the component u are referring to is JOMSOCIAL it costs $99 for the standard edition and $149 for pro.

@ dhtml my advice don't try to reinvent the wheel. Take joomla + cb and move on!U can have a lot of control over joomla once u understand its "markup language". You will have your site running in less than 24hrs. Drupal on the other hand is no longer widely used as most people have ditched it for joomla ofcoz me included. This is due to the large joomla community and availability of a wide variety extensions ready to install. You could also try out social engine which has lots and lots of mods to extend it though you got to dig really dip into your pockets around $250.

There is something else about my framework. It helps me use my style of coding in addition to what those frameworks have to offer. So i can use it with joomla or whatever and they all blend perfectly. My framework is just a short-hand method of doing things in my own style.

For instance my client sided framework is lighter than jQuery and does the same thing. Better for our slow naija servers (that was why i created it in the first place). I intend to flow along with drupal and all of them. I will not rewrite them, i will just make them easier to use (that is what my framework is all about). By the time i release the first server-sided version, u will see what i mean. I just want to standardize it first.

Extensibility is the keyword. I did not start the framework without research (and not without assessing my skill level).
The key to the successful frameworks is extensibility.

That is one problem that drupal lacks. When a new version comes out, plugins and stuffs need to be upgraded.

And i do not wish to distract this thread by talking about frameworks. I blv there is a separate thread for that.

Exactly. minimal effort is very important. That now depends on what you want. If i can write a script that will save me ages of coding. . .then why waste time especially if i cannot download it? So, in essense, i support using what is already existing, and i also believe in creating plugins and addons when i can. At the end of the day, to have something done and packaged professionally, that is all there is to it.
For the short time i have been using joomla, i have never had to build a component or plugin yet (because so far i have found all i needed), and the ones i do not have, i import them in from my code library (thanks to the custom_page plugin) and stuffs like custom_php

You do have a point dia seriously

@mambenanje
Its true everyone can install joomla but how many can make good use of its features to come up with a superb website?

That aspect of drupal i cant tolerate. I mean, here i am with joomla 1.5, and i am still using plenty of joomla 1.0 plugins. In drupal from what i hear, that may not be possible, 'cos they prefer functionality to backward compatibility. To someone that has plenty projects that you may wish to upgrade in future, you may have some trouble migrating. But that is just one view, i need to see advantages and all to compare. Joomla too has some of its shortcomings (but those ones i can still tolerate). But i have not actually used joomla yet. And that even reminds me sef, maybe i should have added the cakewalk framework too.