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deols (f)
Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« on: September 04, 2009, 10:08 AM »

Everyday before sunrise, American pastor Ben Ries wakes up to eat before starting his fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. "It raises your awareness about hunger in the world," Ries told The Bellingham Herald on Monday, August 31.

Ries, 30, the pastor of the Sterling Drive Church of Christ in Bellingham, has decided to join Muslims in fasting Ramadan to get a better knowledge of the Islamic faith.

He says fasting can help him become a better Christian as well as a better pastor, husband, father, and member of a diverse world often fractured along religious lines.

Islam and Christianity; Common GroundsÂ… Status of Jesus in Islam Between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam "Part of my reflection is, 'Who am I in this world?'" said Ries, who became pastor of his small Bellingham church two years ago.

"I'm not so narcissistic to think I have everything figured out."

As he knows little about Islam, Ries sought to find someone to help him observe the holy Muslim month.

Googling the inte, he found Monem Salam, the president of Saturna Brokerage Services, a subsidiary of Saturna Capital Corp., in Bellingham.
The American pastor immediately e-mailed the Muslim leader, asking him to be his mentor during the dawn-to-dusk fasting month.

"It seemed like it could be a good partnership," Salam said.

"We could both learn from each other."

Ramadan is the holiest month in the Muslim calendar.

In Ramadan, adult Muslims, save the sick and those traveling, abstain from food, drink, smoking and sex between dawn and sunset.

Muslims dedicate their time during the holy fasting month to become closer to Allah through prayer, self-restraint and good deeds.

Ground-breaking

On family dinners, Salam and Ries started to meet before Ramadan to teach the pastor about the fasting month.

Ries has also started reading the Noble Quran and is keeping a journal about his reflections and experiences during Ramadan.
"I'm not a big breakfast person, so it's been difficult for me," he said.

The US pastor hopes that his experience of fasting the Muslim holy month would be a healing step towards a better world.

"As a Christian, I believe this world is broken," he said. "It's not as it's supposed to be."

Salam, who has made a documentary about his experience and his family as a Muslim family living in American society, agreed.

"He's breaking some ground here," Salam said.

He said sharing Riess experience with other church members and non-Muslims would have a better impact on understanding the Islamic faith.

"Hopefully, in the future, we'll have more individuals doing it.

Source: IslamOnline
candylips (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts In Ramadan
« #1 on: September 04, 2009, 10:33 AM »

this is very good  Cheesy
sley4life (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #2 on: September 04, 2009, 08:44 PM »

nice
babanassy
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #3 on: September 04, 2009, 08:55 PM »

ok
majoroller
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #4 on: September 04, 2009, 09:01 PM »

I SINCERELY HOPE MUSLIMS&CHRISTIANS ON THIS FORUM WILL LEARN FROM THIS&LET ACCOMODATE EACH OTHER WITH MUTUAL RESPECT IN RELIGIOUS MATTERS, A BELIEVER IS NEVER A PERSON WHO SCOFFS AT OTHERS,CALLS THEM NAMES,OR UTTERS VULGAR AND OBSCENE PHRASES, A BELIEVER IS NOT A FAULT-FINDER AND IS NOT ABUSIVE,OBSCENE,OR COURSE, SO BROTHERS&SISTERS ON NL LET JUST TRY&BE MORE ACCOMODATIVE PLEASE,
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #5 on: September 04, 2009, 09:19 PM »

What you don't know is he prays salat
gen2genius (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #6 on: September 04, 2009, 09:25 PM »

Do muslims actually fast for 30 days?  Huh

I'm not sure they know what they're talking about.

In the first place, a day starts at 12am yet they are free to eat till 5am.

Secondly, it's only lunch they don't eat. They eat breakfast and dinner - so what's the big deal? Undecided
tpia.
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #7 on: September 04, 2009, 10:03 PM »

Quote
In the first place, a day starts at 12am yet they are free to eat till 5am.

they're probably knowingly or unknowingly following the Jewish calendar where day begins or ends at sunset.
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #8 on: September 04, 2009, 10:04 PM »

Any muslim who eat breakfast has invalidated his fast
tpia.
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #9 on: September 04, 2009, 10:06 PM »

@ topic

I hope this pastor is aware Christians can fast at anytime, not just set days of the year.

He's probably trying to flirt with becoming a muslim but at the same time wants to straddle both religions.
fellis
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #10 on: September 04, 2009, 10:25 PM »

Muslims do not follow the jewish calender. They follow the hijri calender. That both calenders are similar does not mean that muslims follow the jewish calender.
As for the pastor, if he has not formally accepted Islam, then he is not fasting the Ramadan fast. Maybe he is trying to get awareness about hunger in the world, but he is certainly not fasting the Ramadan fast.
fellis
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #11 on: September 04, 2009, 10:30 PM »

Muslims do not follow the jewish calender. They follow the hijri calender. That both calenders are similar does not mean that muslims follow the jewish calender.
As for the pastor, if he has not formally accepted Islam, then he is not fasting the Ramadan fast. Maybe he is trying to get awareness about hunger in the world, but he is certainly not fasting the Ramadan fast.
greateliso (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #12 on: September 04, 2009, 11:07 PM »

hummmmm,
Theblessed (f)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #13 on: September 05, 2009, 12:40 AM »

Quote from: deols on September 04, 2009, 10:08 AM


Ries has also started reading the Noble Quran and is keeping a journal about his reflections and experiences during Ramadan.
"I'm not a big breakfast person, so it's been difficult for me," he said.

The US pastor hopes that his experience of fasting the Muslim holy month would be a healing step towards a better world.

"As a Christian, I believe this world is broken," he said. "It's not as it's supposed to be."

Salam, who has made a documentary about his experience and his family as a Muslim family living in American society, agreed.

"He's breaking some ground here," Salam said.

He said sharing Riess experience with other church members and non-Muslims would have a better impact on understanding the Islamic faith.

"Hopefully, in the future, we'll have more individuals doing it.



Wait, wait and wait!!! This pastor is curios hence his meddling with religions.  And this curiosity in my view, would eventually lead to jumping of ship with some of his members.  For Mr Salam to say that Mr Reiss is doing it to understand Islamic Faith in order to heal the world's problem is a good excuse but how about Mr Salam doing the same for Christian Faith during Lent?  Wouldn't it serve the same purpose he is on about???  Hmmmm!  I smell some hypocrisy here.  Hey, Mr Reiss, it would be nice you're honest about your intentions, you see, Christian Religion is the most tolerant of all Religions and no one this side of the Religion divide would object to your plans, you know.  Afterall, you are not the first nor the last to jump ship instead of hypocritically riding on the bandwagon of the 'Christian Faith'. Naaaaaaaaaaa!  Go, no one's stopping you, ok!  And for those who are considering to the same, wouldn't it be nice you do it noooowwwww?  We give our blessings and good luck!!!
davidylan (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #14 on: September 05, 2009, 12:44 AM »

Quote from: deols on September 04, 2009, 10:08 AM
Islam and Christianity; Common GroundsÂ… Status of Jesus in Islam Between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam "Part of my reflection is, 'Who am I in this world?'" said Ries, who became pastor of his small Bellingham church two years ago.

"I'm not so narcissistic to think I have everything figured out."

and this is a "pastor"? Obviously he needs to read his bible.
Theblessed (f)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #15 on: September 05, 2009, 01:30 AM »

Quote from: deols on September 04, 2009, 10:08 AM


Ries, 30, the pastor of the Sterling Drive Church of Christ in Bellingham, has decided to join Muslims in fasting Ramadan to get a better knowledge of the Islamic faith.

But may I ask again, who made Mr Reiss a PASTOR?? Or did he do it himself like some other Penticostal preachers who call themselves 'Bishops'Huh Is it how he stumbled into Pastorship??  You see, from his comment I quote, "I'm not so narcissistic to think I have everything figured out." suggests a man not  serious about his faith - whether Christianity or Islam.  In fact a confused man.  Even the name of his Church is suspicious too and alerts one to his real motives in setting up a Church for that matter - to make money because it's easy these day for anyone to set up a Church and become a millionaire the next day. Imagine the name of his Church 'STERLING DRIVE CHURCH'. It could have been named 'DOLLAR DRIVE CHURCH' at least the motive would have been clear and obvious for people to understand.  Now, you all know some of these Penticostal Churches set up in every street all over the world are not Spiritually led and from this, one can deduce such churches are nothing but devil advocates so beware where your worship and who you give your tithes.
sley4life (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #16 on: September 05, 2009, 04:28 AM »

is there anything special.
Abuzola (m)
Shame on RCCG Church for denying Ibru
« #17 on: September 05, 2009, 04:52 AM »

Hehehe, christian dey vesk. Keep it up mr pastor
na2day? (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #18 on: September 05, 2009, 08:13 AM »

Quote from: deols on September 04, 2009, 10:08 AM
Everyday before sunrise, American pastor Ben Ries wakes up to eat before starting his fasting during the holy month of Ramadan. "It raises your awareness about hunger in the world," Ries told The Bellingham Herald on Monday, August 31.

Ries, 30, the pastor of the Sterling Drive Church of Christ in Bellingham, has decided to join Muslims in fasting Ramadan to get a better knowledge of the Islamic faith.

He says fasting can help him become a better Christian as well as a better pastor, husband, father, and member of a diverse world often fractured along religious lines.

Islam and Christianity; Common GroundsÂ… Status of Jesus in Islam Between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam "Part of my reflection is, 'Who am I in this world?'" said Ries, who became pastor of his small Bellingham church two years ago.

"I'm not so narcissistic to think I have everything figured out."

As he knows little about Islam, Ries sought to find someone to help him observe the holy Muslim month.

Googling the inte, he found Monem Salam, the president of Saturna Brokerage Services, a subsidiary of Saturna Capital Corp., in Bellingham.
The American pastor immediately e-mailed the Muslim leader, asking him to be his mentor during the dawn-to-dusk fasting month.

"It seemed like it could be a good partnership," Salam said.

"We could both learn from each other."

Ramadan is the holiest month in the Muslim calendar.

In Ramadan, adult Muslims, save the sick and those traveling, abstain from food, drink, smoking and sex between dawn and sunset.

Muslims dedicate their time during the holy fasting month to become closer to Allah through prayer, self-restraint and good deeds.

Ground-breaking

On family dinners, Salam and Ries started to meet before Ramadan to teach the pastor about the fasting month.

Ries has also started reading the Noble Quran and is keeping a journal about his reflections and experiences during Ramadan.
"I'm not a big breakfast person, so it's been difficult for me," he said.

The US pastor hopes that his experience of fasting the Muslim holy month would be a healing step towards a better world.

"As a Christian, I believe this world is broken," he said. "It's not as it's supposed to be."

Salam, who has made a documentary about his experience and his family as a Muslim family living in American society, agreed.

"He's breaking some ground here," Salam said.

He said sharing Riess experience with other church members and non-Muslims would have a better impact on understanding the Islamic faith.

"Hopefully, in the future, we'll have more individuals doing it.

Source: IslamOnline

nonsense! ! ! Angry Angry Angry
olalekan1 (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #19 on: September 05, 2009, 08:40 AM »

Quote from: majoroller on September 04, 2009, 09:01 PM
I SINCERELY HOPE MUSLIMS&CHRISTIANS ON THIS FORUM WILL LEARN FROM THIS&LET ACCOMODATE EACH OTHER WITH MUTUAL RESPECT IN RELIGIOUS MATTERS, A BELIEVER IS NEVER A PERSON WHO SCOFFS AT OTHERS,CALLS THEM NAMES,OR UTTERS VULGAR AND OBSCENE PHRASES, A BELIEVER IS NOT A FAULT-FINDER AND IS NOT ABUSIVE,OBSCENE,OR COURSE, SO BROTHERS&SISTERS ON NL LET JUST TRY&BE MORE ACCOMODATIVE PLEASE,
you are very right my brother may Almighty Allah Bless you and your family.
olalekan1 (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #20 on: September 05, 2009, 08:48 AM »

Quote from: Theblessed on September 05, 2009, 01:30 AM
But may I ask again, who made Mr Reiss a PASTOR?? Or did he do it himself like some other Penticostal preachers who call themselves 'Bishops'Huh Is it how he stumbled into Pastorship??  You see, from his comment I quote, "I'm not so narcissistic to think I have everything figured out." suggests a man not  serious about his faith - whether Christianity or Islam.  In fact a confused man.  Even the name of his Church is suspicious too and alerts one to his real motives in setting up a Church for that matter - to make money because it's easy these day for anyone to set up a Church and become a millionaire the next day. Imagine the name of his Church 'STERLING DRIVE CHURCH'. It could have been named 'DOLLAR DRIVE CHURCH' at least the motive would have been clear and obvious for people to understand.  Now, you all know some of these Penticostal Churches set up in every street all over the world are not Spiritually led and from this, one can deduce such churches are nothing but devil advocates so beware where your worship and who you give your tithes.
is there an organization or body that examines anybody that want to become a pastor? fate has no limit my brother and you can not just justify that you are on the right religious fate. Moreover you might not know if you have a wrong fate until you find a fate that is superior. Is there any guidelines for naming a church? sterling drive must be either a street or a small location in a vicinity, which mean a church located at sterling drive. Simple!
olalekan1 (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #21 on: September 05, 2009, 08:50 AM »

Quote from: sley4life on September 05, 2009, 04:28 AM
is there anything special.
Nothing jare! because you dont understand the message in the post.
na2day? (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #22 on: September 05, 2009, 08:51 AM »

Quote from: olalekan1 on September 05, 2009, 08:48 AM
is there an organization or body that examines anybody that want to become a pastor? fate has no limit my brother and you can not just justify that you are on the right religious fate. Moreover you might not know if you have a wrong fate until you find a fate that is superior. Is there any guidelines for naming a church? sterling drive must be either a street or a small location in a vicinity, which mean a church located at sterling drive. Simple!

forget it, the dude is a fake pastor
mbulela
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #23 on: September 05, 2009, 09:11 AM »

so  which muslim on this forum is willing to fast with me during the next lent season?
for starters, join me to attend the next Holy Ghost service at the RCCG campus at the beginning of next month?
i eagerly anticipate your responses.
olalekan1 (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #24 on: September 05, 2009, 09:29 AM »

Quote from: mbulela on September 05, 2009, 09:11 AM
so  which muslim on this forum is willing to fast with me during the next lent season?
for starters, join me to attend the next Holy Ghost service at the RCCG campus at the beginning of next month?
i eagerly anticipate your responses.
But you are not Mr. Reiss and moreover you did not fast.
na2day? (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #25 on: September 05, 2009, 09:35 AM »

Quote from: olalekan1 on September 05, 2009, 09:29 AM
But you are not Mr. Reiss and moreover you did not fast.

in case u missed it, he is just pointing out the hypocrisy, no muslim fasted with the said pastor b4 the pastor decided to past with them
Dammy_ray (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #26 on: September 05, 2009, 09:53 AM »

God knows best, but i dont see anyfin wrong in that
candylips (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #27 on: September 05, 2009, 12:02 PM »

na today
babaearly (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #28 on: September 05, 2009, 12:32 PM »

This is grandiose föoolishness. See how a pastor rubbishes Christianity and some pervs are even in support. RACA pastor reis. Its now dawn on me that even so callf pastors dont understand the essence of Christianity. Light which is Jesus the Christ can never parley with an idol called allah. Never.
okeey (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #29 on: September 05, 2009, 12:40 PM »

it not good
candylips (m)
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #30 on: September 05, 2009, 12:57 PM »

wetin
mbulela
Re: Pastor Fasts During Ramadan
« #31 on: September 05, 2009, 03:27 PM »

i am still waiting for a volunteer
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