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lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #32 on: December 09, 2006, 05:57 PM »

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We can call our selves whatever we want to call our selves. It is not our fault that white people just want an excuse to call us the real deal "nigger" and so they play on the word "nigga" that black people call each other. In a way, it is all a game between white people and black people, particualrly AA blacks. Black people call each other Nigga because they know that it sounds like Nigger. They also know that in private, white people and many other people are calling them Nigger. So what they did was make a word that sounded like "Nigger" and called to each other publicly to through white people off. With having this new word Nigga, it is like daring white people to call them Nigger. White people fall into that trap always. They have this thing of saying well, they were doing it to their self. Just like they make it a point to say that Africans were enslaving their self before they came to get some African slaves. Then, their way of being objective in the end was to say we are all human and we are all capable of making the same mistakes, please. I will say it again, I can spank my child but you are in no relation to me or my child, you can't do to my child what I do to my child.

I have always wondered where the word Nigger came into place or derived from and my conclusion was this

Niger
Nigeria
Nigger
Nigga
   
C'mon!This don't wash!By the way your" intellectual exercise" to determine the origin of that offensive word is laughable at best!Don't you think you're mistaken sista/sister
Hero (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #33 on: December 09, 2006, 07:49 PM »

What do you think of this site?

http://www.niggaspace.com/  Undecided
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #34 on: December 09, 2006, 09:07 PM »

Nigga nigger just a play of words!It's defamatory, offensive and should be discarded. There should be no basis for any argument!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #35 on: December 10, 2006, 01:09 AM »

Sista,

Kramer did say some horrible things. But check this out, some one just told me that many producers and actors and directors are coming out and saying that not only was Kramer well known for having those types of hissy fits but in fact he was known for saying bad things about Jews and Blacks. Apparently it was an well known industry secret that Kramer was considered 'nuts' and would say some 'nutty' stuff.

And I had just posted about seeing a discussion from historians about the origen of the word Nigger coming from the word 'Niger'.

I have seen it where Nigeria in fact just means 'land of the slaves'.

Niger, Nigger = slaves
NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #36 on: December 10, 2006, 01:41 AM »

If the African Americans didn't down play the word nigger/ nigga how would they have survived the 60s or 400 years of oppression in America, has any one bothered to think of that, I lived in a country where black people are called Chornaya maz  [ie Black cream] and Georgians, Azerbaijan's and Chechnyans are called Chornaya Jopa [ ie black ass], is common place for Georgians, Azerbaijan's and Chechnyans to refer to themselves as Chornaya Jopa while cracking up, but when a Russians does it, he is sure asking for trouble, people do that to make the word less painful, krammer is a big time ass hole.
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #37 on: December 10, 2006, 02:24 AM »

Haha  Grin Cheesy Smiley Grin Grin
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I have seen it where Nigeria in fact just means 'land of the slaves'.

Please help me!Post your reference please!This is another one
You must be kidding!
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #38 on: December 10, 2006, 09:04 AM »

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And I had just posted about seeing a discussion from historians about the origen of the word Nigger coming from the word 'Niger'.

I have seen it where Nigeria in fact just means 'land of the slaves'.

Huh?, Portuguese came down to West Africa, they saw River "Niger" and named it "Niger" in reference to the people living around that area. Black people =Nigra(I'm not sure) in portugese. Well, River Niger flows though present day Nigeria and Nigeria is just a better way of saying "Niger area". Land of slaves?, You make yourself look dumber everyday.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #39 on: December 10, 2006, 04:14 PM »

Donzman,

In Portugese:

Niger = Black
Nigra = Black feminine word
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Latin
Adjective
niger m, nigra f, nigrum n

black

Related Terms
negro
Nigeria
nigger

http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/science_fair_project_dictionary/Niger
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #40 on: December 10, 2006, 04:18 PM »

Is that all?
There was no reference to this!
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I have seen it where Nigeria in fact just means 'land of the slaves'.

Niger, Nigger = slaves
Anyways i'm waiting for your real burden of proof
Your reference ain't acceptable
Drusilla (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #41 on: December 10, 2006, 04:33 PM »

lewa,

I have no burden of proof.

Believe it or not, discussions among historians were not always available on Youtube.



lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #42 on: December 10, 2006, 04:47 PM »

Anyways i don't think you need to go posting outright fallacies and misinformation that Nigeria equates the despicable word you posted!I think you are wrong and perhaps next time before you rush to post inaccuracious and obvious inflammatory nonsense please do some checking!Nigeria does not mean or did not mean what you posted!
I also think that an apology would be appopriate
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #43 on: December 10, 2006, 04:48 PM »

Inaccuracies i mean -spell checker again
Drusilla (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #44 on: December 10, 2006, 05:09 PM »

Lewa,

In fact, it makes total sense. Whether one can provide proof of old conversations or not.

Is it not a fact that most of the slave populations have tended to come from what is now referred to as Nigeria?

Is it not a fact that the word Niger means Black?

Is it not a fact that Black people are associated in the west with the Black slaves?

It is a no brainer that a country called Land of the Blacks, is a short jump to Land of the slaves.

Anybody can see that clearly.
drrionelli (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #45 on: December 10, 2006, 06:31 PM »

@Topic:

OK, OK, Let's not lose track of the whole point of this thread!  We're sniping at and aruging with each other, and that's not going to accomplish anything.

I reiterate that the words, themselves, are not at issue, here.  The meaning and sentiment behind those words is what matters.  It seems that Mr. Richards' words have turned some of us against one another, which is likely exactly what he intended.  After all, why should he as a racist put forth the effort to tear down Black people when Black people will do so themselves?

Now, for all of you who are attacking each other, say you're sorry, shake hands (or kiss) and make up!   We're all going to play nice, now, aren't we?  Wink
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #46 on: December 10, 2006, 07:26 PM »

@Drusilla

Are you seriously trying to argue that Nigeria actually means "Land of Slaves"?, Don't be an idiot, the name Nigeria is due to the river Niger. Nigeria = Niger Area, it has nothing to do with "land of slaves". Are you just being a plain idiot?
Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #47 on: December 10, 2006, 07:55 PM »

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Are you seriously trying to argue that Nigeria actually means "Land of Slaves"?, Don't be an idiot, the name Nigeria is due to the river Niger. Nigeria = Niger Area, it has nothing to do with "land of slaves". Are you just being a plain idiot?

This argument can be argued - after all, who named the Niger River? And who coined Nigeria to be Nigeria? Also in Spanish Negro means the color black. In essence, when white people were calling black people nigger, they were in their own little ignorant way calling them "black its" un human black things. If white people had any sense, they would have at least been calling them Nigerians but they were to lazy and hateful to call them that. Everything black to the white man is bad. The more he called black people black, the more he was conveying to the them they were useless and deserved to be slaves because they were black. Black people who are proud to be black when calling each other Nigga, that is their way of owning that word even when whitey tried to make them feel less, they took that word changed it from the degrading white sound Nigger and  making the word more likable in sound  and now they are calling each other "my nigga" "my fellow black man or sister"  Grin Black people can call each other whatever they feel like calling each other. However, that meaning of "my nigga" due to white peoples interference and black peoples interfering on wanting the word to be viewed as negative has caused a rebelliousness. Black kids and adults these days don't always mean my fellow black brother or sister when they call each other that, the movie (Antwon Fisher) can explain that better.

In Spanish and maybe Portuguese when referring to the feminine and masculine, O is masculine and we know what is associated with masculine. In Spanish, A is feminine and we know what feminine is associated with.

Amigo Amiga 
Negro Negra or Nigra when not well pronounced.

What the hell is Nigger then supposed to mean? From white peoples point of view that is. Nigger appears to be nothing close to human because it neither refers to the feminine woman nor the masculine man so it must be a un human like thing it, or animal.


Just because black people call each other nigga, doesn't mean other people who are not black can join in. If white people like the word nigga and they want to call it to each other, they can do that. Besides, they copy everything black people do any way. I have seen these young white teens calling each other nigga, they think it is cool. Some of them step out of line and call it to another blacks but a lot of white kids call each other nigga. I might ad they don't say nigger.
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #48 on: December 10, 2006, 08:00 PM »

Again there goes Sista writing up paragraphs without saying anything. Who said Niger didn't mean black?, They named River Niger after the black people who lived around there and named Nigeria after River Niger. Niger area, the area of black people, the land around the Niger, Where do you deduce land of slaves there? "Niger" does not mean slaves, it means black in Portuguese.

Thanks for wasting Seun's bandwidth Mrs. Sista, you never seem to end your senseless rants. It goes on and on!
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #49 on: December 10, 2006, 08:15 PM »

I see that you're some ignorant person!Not only so you're so full of false, inaccurate misleading info!Your attempt to link Nigeria to the "n" is to me stupid at best!Moreso your ineffectual and slanderous conclusion that

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I have seen it where Nigeria in fact just means 'land of the slaves'
is testimony to my conclusion!
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It is a no brainer that a country called Land of the Blacks, is a short jump to Land of the slaves.

Where in the world is Nigeria reffered to as such?I am sure if in the event of asking for reference the response would be
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I have no burden of proof.

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Is it not a fact that the word Niger means Black
Another outright lie!C'mon who do you think you're with on this forum?You make me laugh once again!Things you know little about are just glaring!Where is it written?You don't know nada!Or you think that you could just come and malign my country without anyone saying nothing?You've exhibited your myopia again

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Is it not a fact that most of the slave populations have tended to come from what is now referred to as Nigeria?
And then what?The recent DNA mapping of AA's put that argument to nought!
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Anybody can see that clearly
Not definately you!You have no proof, no references nothing at all for linkage with these spurious  posts of yours!
Anyone reading so far can see that you don't know what you are saying.An enlightened informed individual before posting should check their facts first but you decline and decided to insult our intelligence with made up conclusions and ascribe to my country a name she never or would never bear!
I repeat once more that if it's plain mischieviousness , desist if otherwise apologise and it rests there!
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #50 on: December 10, 2006, 08:24 PM »

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This argument can be argued - after all, who named the Niger River? And who coined Nigeria to be Nigeria? Also in Spanish Negro means the color black. In essence, when white people were calling black people nigger, they was in his own little ignorant way calling them "black it's" un human black things. If white people had any sense, they would have at least been calling them Nigerians but they were to lazy and hateful to call them that. Everything black to the white man is bad. The more he called black people black, the more he was conveying to the them they were useless and deserved to be slaves because they were black. Black people who are proud to be black when calling each other Nigga, that is their way of owning that word even when whitey tried to make them feel less, they took that word changed it from the degrading white sound Nigger and  making the word more likable in sound  and now they are calling each other "my nigga" "my fellow black man or sister"   Black people can call each other whatever they feel like calling each other. However, that meaning of "my nigga" due to white peoples interference and black peoples interfering on wanting the word to be viewed as negative has caused a rebelliousness. Black kids and adults these days don't always mean my fellow black brother or sister when they call each other that, the movie (Antwon Fisher) can explain that better.

In Spanish and maybe Portuguese when referring to the feminine and masculine, O is masculine and we know what is associated with masculine. In Spanish, A is feminine and we know what feminine is associated with.

Amigo Amiga 
Negro Negra or Nigra when not well pronounced.

What the hell is Nigger? From white peoples point of view that is. Nigger appears to be nothing close to human because it neither refers to the feminine aspect nor the masculine aspect.
HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?!Quite unfortunately babbling!I think you really need to read some things you post at times!
Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #51 on: December 10, 2006, 08:33 PM »

@Donzman

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Again there goes Sista writing up paragraphs without saying anything. Who said Niger didn't mean black?, They named River Niger after the black people who lived around there and named Nigeria after River Niger. Niger area, the area of black people, the land around the Niger, Where do you deduce land of slaves there? "Niger" does not mean slaves, it means black in Portuguese.


Donzman, you waste my time posting your senseless views because you cause me to have to come back for everyone to see, to explain how senseless your view is.

When whites were taking slaves from west Africa, at that time, Africa had not yet been colonized. That is why it makes sense that this Mongo guy would be given so called credit for being the first man to set foot upon the Niger River when in fact he was not the first man, he was only the first white man. White people did not consider black or men women as humans you see? So they did not count the several black men and women who had already been on or in that river over the many years before and presently at that time. Also because at that time Africa had not been colonized, it had also not yet been split up so no one was calling out certain parts of Africa the west north and so forth.

 Getting back to Niger and it's meaning (black people). If whites were coming into west Africa off of the Niger River, that would make sense why they would refer to the entire Nigeria as black people and it would make sense that if west Africa particularly Nigeria was their land of plenty for getting plenty of slaves, they would call it the land of slaves. Bottom line, weather they were calling Nigeria the land of slaves or not, they were taking slaves mostly from Nigeria and they were calling those black people Niggers. Niggers happens to be very close to looking like it derived from Niger.

If you think my argument makes no sense don't just come back and say I again said nothing present your basis because we don't care about you wanting to disapprove everything just because you can. tell us why and please make sure it makes sense and I don't mean Donzman sense either.

Also, don't get conveniently side tracked by this question but I thought you said you were not a slave and the word Nigger did not even apply to you, didn't you say that?
Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #52 on: December 10, 2006, 08:38 PM »

@Lewa

Could you be so kind as to post who you are referring to when you make your comments because you seem to be getting on my case about something Drusilla said and then you got on my case about something I said. I don't mind arguing with you about something I said but I can"t argue with your for what Drusilla. You would have to take that up with her. However,  I do understand your mistake because people often times get her and I mixed up and that goes to show how people often times generalize, because they are to lazy to be objective. Not saying your lazy though Undecided
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #53 on: December 10, 2006, 08:50 PM »

@Sista

Nigger and Niger are two different words with two different meanings. Just as Congo is named after the Congo River, so is Nigeria named after the Niger River. What is hard to understand there?, It has nothing to do with slaves, keep typing out essays that make no sense. So because they got slaves from Nigeria, Nigeria means land of slaves? What about Ghana, does it mean land of slaves too? Congo nko? Ivory Coast will now tell you what, Mali is waiting to be called land of slaves too, See how ridiculous your argument is? Just because they got slaves from Nigeria does not mean Nigeria is land of slaves because they got slaves from a host of other places. Geez, you're not really bright at all.

Here is the word Nigger and Niger, 2 different words with same roots.

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nig·ger   

nig·ger [níggər]
(plural nig·gers)
n (taboo)
1.  a taboo term for a black person 
2.  a taboo term for a dark-skinned person 


[Late 17th century. Via Spanish negro from Latin niger “black.”]

Sensitivity:

This term is arguably the single most offensive racist slur in the English language. The fact that African Americans and other people of color sometimes use this word in reference to themselves does not excuse its present-day use by members of other ethnic groups. Those who persist in using it should remember that their use of the word reflects directly upon them, the users. The terms of choice are African American, black or black person, and person of color.


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Ni·ger2   

Ni·ger [njər]
 river in northern West Africa. The third longest river in Africa, it rises in southern Guinea, and flows northward through Mali, then southwest into the Gulf of Guinea, through Niger and Nigeria.
Length: 4,180 km/2,600



Two different words, pronounce differently and used to refer to two different things. How Nigerarea a.k.a. Nigeria means Land of Slaves is still beyond me, like I pointed out earlier, claiming it means land of slaves because they got slaves from there does not make sense. If that is the case, then every W.African country has to mean land of slaves but so bad, it doesn't atleast to any "reasonable" individual. If there is anything you have shown so far, it is the fact that you're unreasonable. Go figure why you have a hard time getting a grip.

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Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #54 on: December 10, 2006, 09:35 PM »

@Donzman

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Just as Congo is named after the Congo River, so is Nigeria named after the Niger River.


Whoa, how we try to show that we know something and in doing so, we conveniently change the subject. I knew you would do that, you are so predictable.



Excuse me, did I miss something? Please, anyone - If I missed that slaves were also taken in large amounts from the Congo, Central Africa, presently Zaire, please some one tell me because if that is not the case, I don't see what any of that has to do with how the word Nigger came about.
  Undecided


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just because they got slaves from Nigeria does not mean Nigeria is land of slaves because they got slaves from a host of other places. Geez, you're not really bright at all.


I already told you that Africa at that time was not even split up, so it was not even at that time referred to as the West until white people colonized Africa. It should make sense that because Nigeria happens to be the first country one will end up in off of the Atlantic coming in on the Niger River, that Nigeria would be the first place and the main place to take slaves from. Nigeria is also the largest country off of the Niger River before you get to Mali. It makes sense then that, most of the slaves were taken from Nigeria because of easier access, making Nigeria the land of slaves. I am not saying that white people called Nigeria the land of slaves but I am saying that if they did, it makes sense that they would have. Remember, I am just saying that Drusilla does have a point.

Once white slave capturers ended up in Nigeria to get slaves, there was really no need to travel into Ghana, Benin, Togo, Burkina, Sierra Leone, Mali or any of the other west African country's, especially as a white man doing this traveling. That is also why it had to be the Nigerians, who went into those other country's or fought with those other country's and any Ghanaians, or other west Africans outside of Nigerians, who were sold into slavery had to be because Nigerians were trying to keep themselves from being the majority being captured into slavery by white people.  Don't again conveniently get sidetracked by my last statement about slave trading.

Hence, land of slaves (Nigeria) Not only a place where you can steal Nigerians into slavery but also place where you can conduct slave trade with Nigerians who steal or war with other west Africans, who they (Nigerians) barter into white mans slavery.

I am not agreeing that Nigerians as a whole conducted slave bartering with White people. I am saying that individuals did and it was not a governmental thing for Africans to sell other Africans into slavery.

Stay on course this time Donzman, don't again conveniently get side tracked.
drrionelli (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #55 on: December 10, 2006, 09:38 PM »

I'm going to say this again, so please pay attention:


YOU KIDS PLAY NICE!!!
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NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #56 on: December 10, 2006, 10:22 PM »

Don't you think we 've had enough of these sensless Idiotic arguments, The word Nigger was derived from Niger, so Niger is Nigger, take it or leave, but it won't still change this fact, why  people are coming here to argue about these nonsense is because we Africans are so stupid to allow other people to name our countries for us and we seem to like it, fools, look at it Nigeria, Liberia, Algeria, China is china [ not some Chineria] and japan is Japan [not some Japaneria] and am sure as hell that these names were not given to them by some foreigners, when will  black people smarten up, and these are the people that would be running around fighting for equality when they 've already accepted the almighty status of second fiddle, gawd!!!.


The only way Russians know how to address a black person is negar, they were even thought in schools that;

1, In germany lives Germans

2, in France Lives The French

3, in England lives the English

but in Africa lives negar [ if these word is written in English exactly how the Russian pronounce it, it would be written as Nigger, cause they actually pronounce Nigger, this is why Russians in Britain always warn their new comming friends or family from Russia never to say the word Negar ].


forget about the phucking source of these word Nigger and deal with the negativity that comes with it.


Ndipe (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #57 on: December 10, 2006, 10:32 PM »

We should not let the "N" word have dominion over us. We should treat it as an inconsequential term, designed to stow us in bondage.
Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #58 on: December 10, 2006, 10:34 PM »

 By dealing with the source of the word, we can discover for white people what the word nigger meant and then we can discover for black people what nigga means. You have to understand the past before you can understand the present.

For some black people the word nigga is not acceptable because the word would have not ever been thought about if the word nigger was not first in place. For some black people the word Nigga from a black person to another black person, it is acceptable because it is not derogatory like nigger and in fact is a brotherly and sisterly thing. It wasn't until questions about the word nigga being raised that brought upon all of the controversy. The controversy was brought on when white people tried to equate nigger with nigga, giving them an excuse to keep calling black people nigger because we call it to our selves which is a bunch of baloney. Black people who had a problem with white peoples justification to keep calling black people nigger, they are now the ones who complain against the blacks who are not complaining and embracing the word as something positive.  As a result, young black people feel as though they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't so if they wish to be negative with the word, they will and if they wish to be positive with the word, they will.

Yes, the word has been worn out and really is getting played out.
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #59 on: December 10, 2006, 10:48 PM »

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but in Africa lives negar [ if these word is written in English exactly how the Russian pronounce it, it would be written as Nigger, cause they actually pronounce Nigger, this is why Russians in Britain always warn their new comming friends or family from Russia never to say the word Negar ].

Exactly in Africa lives the Negar(the black man). Negarnot equal to Nigger and Nigger is not equal to Niger. Niger/Negar= Black and is used to refer to black people just like white is used to refer to white people. Nigger is a word English speaking dolts from America formed(obviously from niger) to deride their slaves. Words having the same roots does not imply they have the same meaning, you can't be this dumb man. Typing in big fonts does not imply you're thinking big my friend, got it?

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Excuse me, did I miss something? Please, anyone - If I missed that slaves were also taken in large amounts from the Congo, Central Africa, presently Zaire, please some one tell me because if that is not the case, I don't see what any of that has to do with how the word Nigger came about. 

@Sista

Don't argue with Donzman because I will expose your ignorance time and time again. There is Congo-Brazaville and there is the Democractic Republic of the Congo a.k.a. Congo - Kinshasa formerly Zaire. Besides the point, yes large amount sof slaves were taken from the Congo.

Obviously you missed something, you can visit this post from an intelligble individual on this board in a thread you were running your big mouth in concerning the origin of slaves.

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The most important correction I feel compelled to make is the idea that most African-Americans are descended from Igbos. African Diaspora historians have spent decades working on demographic studies now, so there are actually fairly precise figures about this stuff. The majority of the African-American population is not descended from Igbos or Yoruba--West-Central Africans from the Congo and Angola outnumber those other groups by far. To be sure, there were a high number of Igbos and others from the Calabar port (Ijaw, Ibibio, Efik, Ekoi etc.) that were transported to Virginia, and that colony had a distinctive Igbo cultural imprint among their ancestry. But Congo-Angolans predominated in South Carolina (one of the busiest ports of enslavement in the whole of the Americas, not just the US) and Bambaras from Mali predominated in Louisiana, as proven in prof. Gwendolyn Miller's "Africans in Colonial Louisiana" and in her work on several databases (which is where I get these figures from): http://www.bioethics.umn.edu/afrgen/html/Africansandtheirdescendantsintheamericas.html . Incidentally, the same groups (from modern Congo-Brazaville, Congo-Kinshasa, Angola, Gabon etc.) made up the majority of enslaved people in all countries in the Americas, and had by far the greatest cultural impact as a whole on music, food, language etc. Yorubas are well-identified as an influence, but are believed to have made up only about 10% of the African population in North and South America. Their dominant cultural influence in places like Brazil, Cuba, and Haiti has to do with the open and conglomerate nature of Yoruba religion, their relatively late arrival, and a greater sense of cultural cohesion due to centralized political identities in some places (kingdom of Oyo etc.) Igbos are quite prominent in the Jamaican population and in Caribbean populations in general, and there are many people of recent/traceable Hausa and Fulani ancestry in Trinidad and Guyana. Other Nigerian groups were extremely influential too--the Efik, Ibibio, and Ekoi bordering Cameroon were responsible for establishing the Abakua secret society as a Cuban version of the Ekpe fraternity in their homeland, and that has become one of Cuba's most distinctive forms of African heritage. To set the record straight, Nsibidi (meaning 'cruel letters' in their language) originated in this multi-ethnic Cross Rivers area among these people and later spread to Igboland alongside the Ekpe leopard fraternity.

From TerraCotta on http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-21388.128.html


You're ignorant about Africa in particular, ask and it shall be explained to you. When you begin to act like you know, you keep looking like a fool and if there's anything Donzman enjoys, it's to make fools look like the fools that they are. There's no need posting false things on this board, there are lots of people trying to form their own opinions, I want people to form opinions based on facts and not senseless rants like yours.

Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #60 on: December 10, 2006, 11:11 PM »

@Donzman

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@Sista

Don't argue with Donzman because I will expose your ignorance time and time again. There is Congo-Brazaville and there is the Democractic Republic of the Congo a.k.a. Congo - Kinshasa formerly Zaire. Besides the point, yes large amount sof slaves were taken from the Congo.

Not as many slaves as the slaves that were taken from Nigeria and west Africa period.  However, many scholars argue differently.

Not even at the same time were they taken. We are talking about the origins of the word Nigger and its meaning. Not the origins of when slaves were taken from the Congo. It doesn't matter any way because white people seen all black people as Niggers no matter which part of the world or the African or American map they came from. That is what you don't seem to understand.

Don't need you to tell me about Congo's name and it's former name, I had already told you remember? Your not so clever Donzman. In fact you are not clever at all. You still have a lot to learn and a lot of growing up to do.

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Obviously you missed something, you can visit this post from an intelligble individual on this board in a thread you were running your big mouth in concerning the origin of slaves.

You are no one to be taking advice from on who and who is not intelligent, when you behave like a spewing, name calling, hissy fit child. Please Donzman, you never ceased to amaze me at all.

You took my question literally? You must have done that out of the convenience to deliver your usual unnecessary backlash because I was not asking if slaves were taken from the Congo at all? You misconstrued what I was saying or you just don't understand me being sarcastic. Your bringing up the Congo and the meaning of the name Congo and all this other stuff, that has nothing to do with how the word Nigger came about and how in close comparison the words Niger, Nigerians and Nigger favor each other .

You do that all of the time. Your timing is off because you are still young and acting and young minded.


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You're ignorant about Africa in particular, ask and it shall be explained to you. When you begin to act like you know, you keep looking like a fool and if there's anything Donzman enjoys, it's to make fools look like the fools that they are. There's no need posting false things on this board, there are lots of people trying to form their own opinions, I want people to form opinions based on facts and not senseless rants like yours.

If I am ignorant, I won't be learning any thing from you because what do you really know but how to insult people?  You are the one who is the young fool. In fact, you are sickening.
Donzman (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #61 on: December 10, 2006, 11:31 PM »

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Not as many slaves as the slaves that were taken from Nigeria and west Africa period.  However, many scholars argue differently.

Did you do a headcount?, Haha.

I already told you about the origin of the Niger and Nigger. Just because two words have the same roots does not imply they have the same meaning, is that too hard to understand?, The two words differ both in meaning and pronounciation, Niger = Black/Black People/The river running through Guinea/Niger/Nigeria. Nigger = Offensive term for black Americans.
Sista (f)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #62 on: December 11, 2006, 12:07 AM »

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I already told you about the origin of the Niger and Nigger.

Fool you didn't tell me nothing, I told you. stop trying to take the credit for what originally said, do you need attention that bad?

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Just because two words have the same roots does not imply they have the same meaning, is that too hard to understand?

Yes it would be hard for me to understand, sense i never said it.
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The two words differ both in meaning and pronounciation, Niger = Black/Black People/The river running through Guinea/Niger/Nigeria.

It was already covered that Niger was equal to black and you were not the one who covered that either. here you go again trying to steal credit for something you didn't initially say.

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Nigger = Offensive term for black Americans.

I am a AA, so I know what that offensive term means, do you Donzman?

I will give you a hint, go back and read my post where I showed step by step what it means before you answer. Again, you are saying nothing new. Il already covered what the offensive term means.
lewa (m)
Re: Should The "n" Word Be Banned?
« #63 on: December 11, 2006, 12:26 AM »

Sista,
was to you!It was aquote of yours wasn't it?
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