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SapeleGuy
Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« on: September 11, 2009, 09:45 PM »

I have thought about this for a long time and followed a lot of debates here on nairaland. Tribalism seems to be the verbal grenade that is lobbed here with monotonous regularity. In the midst of this, I find myself asking:

Is it a bad thing to be proud of your ethnicity?
Can the love of ones ethnicity be a progressive force?
Can this love be  displayed with mutual respect for others as opposed to jingoism?
Can we really coexist  as equals?

It seems a lot of us are torn between what we think is the right thing to say and what we know to be right in our hearts.

Afterall, we should be patriotic. In truth, where does your loyalty lie?

Do you put the interests of Nigeria first or do you put the interest of your Ethnicity first ?

I will ask for a favour, please try and be honest.
Bialegend (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #1 on: September 11, 2009, 09:52 PM »

Anyone that comes in here to tell you that nigeria comes first before his ethnic group is a complete hypocrite and should be stoned. We have all seen how the awusas are proclaiming their so called UNITY and ONE nigeria which is by refusing to listen and work together with others for the progress of nigeria. They only think about their northern nigeria, yet will want those gullible southerners to think about nigeria as a whole. Nigeria my arrsss.  Nonsense!!!
SapeleGuy
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #2 on: September 11, 2009, 10:11 PM »


If they really put ethnicity first, how come there is not one progressive region in North, East, West or South?
Suffer dey everywhere kokoroko.
sjeezy8
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #3 on: September 11, 2009, 10:21 PM »

kaboooom Grin

My loyalty is to Nigeria even though some folks think imma triablist

Im a proud yoruba Lagosian Cool but that doesn't mean i think nothing can be learned from other regions/ethnicities

and i cant imagine a Lagos/Nigeria without igbo, Tiv, Bini,ijo, fulani, outside yorubas,etc

$poOne
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #4 on: September 11, 2009, 10:27 PM »

Quote from: sjeezy8 on September 11, 2009, 10:21 PM
kaboooom Grin

My loyalty is to Nigeria even though some folks think imma triablist

Im a proud yoruba Lagosian Cool but that doesn't mean i think nothing can be learned from other regions/ethnicities

and i cant imagine a Lagos/Nigeria without igbo, Tiv, Bini,ijo, fulani, outside yorubas,etc



Now that's a bright young man talking! Smiley
Beaf
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #5 on: September 11, 2009, 10:30 PM »

The 1% of the population who understand the "Nigerian game" are far from tribalistic. Indeed, they put their pockets before both nation and ethnicity.

Ethnicity is used as both a power base and a vicious divide and rule weapon against the remaining 99%. We hear about Afenifere, Arewa and Ohaneze; they are all fucking tools of the elite 1%.

Obviously, if we want to progress and overthrow the status quo, we are better off seeing one another as fellow humans.
SapeleGuy
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #6 on: September 11, 2009, 10:37 PM »

Quote from: sjeezy8 on September 11, 2009, 10:21 PM
kaboooom Grin

My loyalty is to Nigeria even though some folks think imma triablist

Im a proud yoruba Lagosian Cool but that doesn't mean i think nothing can be learned from other regions/ethnicities

and i cant imagine a Lagos/Nigeria without igbo, Tiv, Bini,ijo, fulani, outside yorubas,etc



But which comes first or is closest to your heart? Reading between the lines you are proud yoruba but loyal nigerian.
Bialegend (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #7 on: September 11, 2009, 10:48 PM »

Quote from: sjeezy8 on September 11, 2009, 10:21 PM
kaboooom Grin

My loyalty is to Nigeria even though some folks think imma triablist

Im a proud yoruba Lagosian Cool but that doesn't mean i think nothing can be learned from other regions/ethnicities

and i cant imagine a Lagos/Nigeria without igbo, Tiv, Bini,ijo, fulani, outside yorubas,etc


Yes, so you can keep benefiting from the hard workers, while you sit out your trait lazy arrss at home and wait for rent payment day. Why don't you ask for your own oduduwa country where you can do all alone without being a nuisance to others? Must you be in the same country with Igbos? Ohh, i forgot, your survivial depends on the Igbos. Alaye.
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #8 on: September 11, 2009, 10:54 PM »

Quote from: SapeleGuy on September 11, 2009, 10:11 PM
If they really put ethnicity first, how come there is not one progressive region in North, East, West or South?
Suffer dey everywhere kokoroko.

Lack of education • Work ethic • No resources.

The ones who do have this is in the north are probably super rich.
$poOne
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #9 on: September 11, 2009, 11:00 PM »

Quote from: SapeleGuy on September 11, 2009, 10:37 PM
But which comes first or is closest to your heart? Reading between the lines you are proud yoruba but loyal nigerian.

@poster

Is this thread meant for genuine discourse or just another useless bone of contention?
$poOne
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #10 on: September 11, 2009, 11:07 PM »

Quote from: Bialegend on September 11, 2009, 10:48 PM
Yes, so you can keep benefiting from the hard workers, while you sit out your trait lazy arrss at home and wait for rent payment day. Why don't you ask for your own oduduwa country where you can do all alone without being a nuisance to others? Must you be in the same country with Igbos? Ohh, i forgot, your survivial depends on the Igbos. Alaye.


Totally uncalled for – nonsensical at best. Sad
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #11 on: September 11, 2009, 11:10 PM »

There's no point of this thread, because we already know the answer, but let us see what people say anyway.
SapeleGuy
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #12 on: September 11, 2009, 11:14 PM »

Quote from: $poOne on September 11, 2009, 11:00 PM
@poster

Is this thread meant for genuine discourse or just another useless bone of contention?

No offence, discourse of course. I was merely weighing the nuance of being proud to belong and loyalty.

Bialegend - please let us discuss without throwing stones.
sjeezy8
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #13 on: September 12, 2009, 12:09 AM »

lol i hope many post

so the truth will come out,

The clowns ezeagu and bifralegend have been proven me right so far

lets see the rest please
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #14 on: September 12, 2009, 12:11 AM »

Quote from: sjeezy8 on September 12, 2009, 12:09 AM
lol i hope many post

so the truth will come out,

The clowns ezeagu and bifralegend have been proven me right so far

lets see the rest please

 Huh What are you talking about? And I wouldn't talk about clowns. . . . .
Bialegend (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #15 on: September 12, 2009, 12:14 AM »

Quote from: sjeezy8 on September 12, 2009, 12:09 AM
lol i hope many post

so the truth will come out,

The clowns ezeagu and bifralegend have been proven me right so far

lets see the rest please
Are you not the same person as becomerich? If not, why can't you simple write what others can understand? Is it a rocket science or is your lazy trait taking a toll on you?
Kobojunkie
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #16 on: September 12, 2009, 12:17 AM »

Quote from: Beaf on September 11, 2009, 10:30 PM
The 1% of the population who understand the "Nigerian game" are far from tribalistic. Indeed, they put their pockets before both nation and ethnicity.

Ethnicity is used as both a power base and a vicious divide and rule weapon against the remaining 99%. We hear about Afenifere, Arewa and Ohaneze; they are all fucking tools of the elite 1%.

Obviously, if we want to progress and overthrow the status quo, we are better off seeing one another as fellow humans.

Right on the mark!!
sjeezy8
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #17 on: September 12, 2009, 12:30 AM »

Quote from: Bialegend on September 12, 2009, 12:14 AM
Are you not the same person as becomerich? If not, why can't you simple write what others can understand? Is it a rocket science or is your lazy trait taking a toll on you?

sure lady

i've learned idiot guys like you who are igbo dont speak for the rest of the sensible igbo ones
Beaf
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #18 on: September 12, 2009, 12:39 AM »

^Is "lady" a derogatory term, at least in the way you use it?
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #19 on: September 12, 2009, 12:42 AM »

Quote from: Beaf on September 12, 2009, 12:39 AM
^Is "lady" a derogatory term, at least in the way you use it?

Excuse him, his name is "sjeezy" after all.  Grin
Onlytruth (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #20 on: September 12, 2009, 01:16 AM »

Quote from: Beaf on September 11, 2009, 10:30 PM
The 1% of the population who understand the "Nigerian game" are far from tribalistic. Indeed, they put their pockets before both nation and ethnicity.

Ethnicity is used as both a power base and a vicious divide and rule weapon against the remaining 99%. We hear about Afenifere, Arewa and Ohaneze; they are all fucking tools of the elite 1%.

Obviously, if we want to progress and overthrow the status quo, we are better off seeing one another as fellow humans.

Beaf I respect you a lot but I disagree with you on this. I don't believe there is really a NIGERIAN GAME, and I can prove it.  That theory of Nigerian game is what people who are desperate to keep Nigeria one have been peddling and it is a lie. We in the East  want progress and fast! We are desperate for progress but Abuja and the north won't let us choose our own governors. We want to demonstrate that it is possible to develop (Ngige proved it in Anambra State, Peter Obi is proving it now), but those who want to prove that all Nigerians are corrupt and the same won't let us. What we have is a Hausa/Fulani and to some extent Yoruba imposed socio-political system pervading the Nigerian space. I would exonerate the Yoruba to some extent though (at least for the sake of Jakande and Fashola).
There is nothing wrong with being a Nigerian and Igbo, but if Nigeria wants to kill the Igbo in me just to make me "Nigerian", then Nigeria will have to give way to Biafra.
I am Igbo first.
sjeezy8
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #21 on: September 12, 2009, 01:18 AM »

some more PLEASE

they keep proving me right
Onlytruth (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #22 on: September 12, 2009, 01:21 AM »

To further demonstrate my point, let there be free and fair elections in Nigeria for once. Let that happen for 10 years and let's see who will be where.
If the North want that today, it can happen. But IS IT IN THEIR INTEREST? That is the big question.

So I don't believe in the Nigerian game. It may be more like a Northern Nigerian Game!
THE AMAKA (f)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #23 on: September 12, 2009, 01:50 AM »

damn you people keep proving sjeezy right it seems.
this needs to go to the racism, tribalism section cause YOU ALL KNOW that this is what this thread is going to turn into.
yawn . . .

same shit, different toilet.
Bialegend (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #24 on: September 12, 2009, 01:52 AM »

Quote from: THE AMAKA on September 12, 2009, 01:50 AM
damn you people keep proving sjeezy right it seems.
this needs to go to the racism, tribalism section cause YOU ALL KNOW that this is what this thread is going to turn into.
yawn . . .

same shit, different toilet.
Shut up, you this little yoroba bigot.
sjeezy8
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #25 on: September 12, 2009, 01:55 AM »

^^^^ you're sick in d head
THE AMAKA (f)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #26 on: September 12, 2009, 01:57 AM »

hahahaha!!


Quote from: Bialegend on September 12, 2009, 01:52 AM
Shut up, you this little yoroba bigot.

im yoruba?? ??
did you not see my name "THE AMAKA" im igbo you idiot.
some people really dont know how to read.
sorry for you ooo   Tongue

and im the supposed "bigot"
nonsense.
davidylan (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #27 on: September 12, 2009, 01:57 AM »

Amaka doesnt sound yoruba.
Bialegend (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #28 on: September 12, 2009, 02:29 AM »

Quote from: THE AMAKA on September 12, 2009, 01:57 AM
hahahaha!!


im yoruba?? ??
did you not see my name "THE AMAKA" im igbo you idiot.
some people really dont know how to read.
sorry for you ooo   Tongue

and im the supposed "bigot"
nonsense.
Ewu, i can change my user name to awusa or yoroba name, does that make me awusa or yoroba person? We have becomerich using Igbo sounding names at times to post his rubbish just as you are doing, but well know he is a yoroba bigot. You think  using Igbo sounding name as your handle makes you Igbo? Sorry to burst your bubble you yoroba clown. You think i will not dig you out?
stillwater (f)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #29 on: September 12, 2009, 02:30 AM »

Quote from: Bialegend on September 11, 2009, 09:52 PM
Anyone that comes in here to tell you that nigeria comes first before his ethnic group is a complete hypocrite and should be stoned. We have all seen how the awusas are proclaiming their so called UNITY and ONE nigeria which is by refusing to listen and work together with others for the progress of nigeria. They only think about their northern nigeria, yet will want those gullible southerners to think about nigeria as a whole. Nigeria my arrsss.  Nonsense!!!

Nigeria comes first. Stone me!!!
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #30 on: September 12, 2009, 02:32 AM »

Amaka is not Yoruba, she's genuine. . . . . I think.

Quote from: THE AMAKA on September 12, 2009, 01:50 AM
damn you people keep proving sjeezy right it seems.

About what?
THE AMAKA (f)
Re: Are You Loyal To Nigeria Or Your Ethnicity?
« #31 on: September 12, 2009, 02:35 AM »

dont mind this guy, so many people know me here, IM KNOWN NIGGU. ask about me.
hater!!
you are just angry because you look stupid and you have FAILED to read between the lines.
all you people are here proving sjeezy right, you people are a disgrace to my igbos.


just because i dont speak from a biased viewpoint and i dont speak like a tribalist and that i agree with sjeezy, im a yoruba?
now i do get it, THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH IGBOS!!
they think if you agree with someone from the "other side" that you must be a yoruba posing as an igbo.
cant a girl just say what she wants anymore?
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