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naijaking1
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http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/paperfrmes.htmlConcern In World Bank Over Sanusi's Bank ReformsBy Emma Chukwuanukwu, Assistant News Editor and Adeola Yusuf , Correspondent, Lagos There is growing concern among officials of the World Bank and other international credit lending bodies over the ongoing reform in the Nigerian banks, aftermath of the sack of some bank chiefs recently by the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) Governor, Lamido Sanusi. The World Bank and other international lending institutions that support both the government and private business organisations in Nigeria are said to be raising queries over the recent actions of the CBN. Sanusi sacked five bank chief executives on August 14 and handed them over to the security agencies for criminal trial in the courts. The Chief Executive Officers of Oceanic (Cecelia Ibru), Intercontinental (Erastus Akingbola), Afribank (Sebastine Adigwe), Finbank (Okey Nwosu) and Union bank (Barthelomew Ebong) as well as those of some of their subsidiaries were affected by Sanusi's action and are being prosecuted by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC). An official of the World Bank, who pleaded not to be mentioned, told Sunday Independent that the apex world financial institution was particularly concerned about the legality or otherwise of the CBN actions, especially as it concerns the N400 billion bail out extended to the troubled banks without an enabling law by the nation's National Assembly. "What the CBN has done may have saved the banks in question from going under, but it has also definitely affected Nigeria's international credit rating negatively. The international financial institutions now view Nigerian government and businesses with suspicion as regards their credit rating. " They are not comfortable that the CBN governor could release such a huge sum of money to privately owned banks without an enabling law by the National Assembly and I think that is what Mr. Sanusi has been labouring to explain to them during his trips to London and China recently," said the official. Especially disconcerting to the international financial community, according to the official, was the explanation Sanusi gave in London to the effect that the CBN had to print money to shore up the dwindling capital base of the five troubled banks. "They were taken aback that Sanusi could do all that without an enabling law by the National Assembly," the official said. The World Bank official said corresponding financial institutions overseas which lend money to Nigerian businesses may stop such credit facilities until confidence is restored in the Nigerian financial sector. "You are aware that some banks abroad give short term loans to Nigerian businessmen, especially importers of finished goods. Some of the foreign banks may not extend such loans now, especially as the credit facilities are guaranteed by some Nigerian banks, including the five troubled ones. "Another source of worry to the international financial institutions is the silence of the Nigerian authorities on the CBN action. Although, the authorities have said they support the action by the CBN governor, they did not say whether it was part of the government's economic reform policy and state the direction it is going. "They are still confused about how the CBN could invest public funds to shore up the working capital of privately owned banks without explaining whether it was a loan or equity fund and how it would be returned to the public purse. These are very sensitive issues to the banks abroad, especially in these days of economic meltdown when most of them are struggling to stay afloat," he said. He said most importers would soon feel the impact of the reactions of their foreign lenders except the Federal Government moves fast to clear their areas of anxiety. Particularly at risk are the major importers of refined petroleum products who often use such credit lines to sustain regular importation of fuel into Nigeria. A major fuel shortage, which could ground Nigeria's economy to a halt is looming as banks have placed restrictions on lending to major oil marketers who are responsible for the importation of over 60 per cent of petroleum products into the country. Investigations by Sunday Independent revealed that many marketers are already running short of funds. Lending banks, it would be recalled, took to this new measure following the on going auditing of their operations by the CBN, which has led to the arrest and continued detention of many banks' CEO. Executive Secretary of the Major Oil Marketers Association of Nigeria, (MOMAN), Thomas Olawore confirmed the threat of withheld credit for the petroleum products importers, adding that MOMAN has communicated its predicament to the Federal Government and requested its urgent intervention. " Our members, especially those whose names appeared on the CBN debtors list have complained that their letters of credit are not being honoured by the corresponding banks abroad. If the government does not act fast, this situation may affect the importation of petroleum products into Nigeria soon. "I have sent mails to members on this subject and as you can see I am still waiting for their response before we can know how best to answer the questions," he told this newspaper in a telephone chat. A Managing Director of one of the major marketing companies, who spoke with Sunday Independent, noted that the country would be sorry for the actions of the CBN governor if not properly and urgently modified.He said further that it is not possible to avoid a fresh rounds of petroleum products scarcity as most marketers and importers are now faced with the problem of trust from corresponding banks as letters of credit from Nigerian banks are not being honoured by the corresponding banks.The impact of Yar'dua's Sanusi's monetary policy is becoming more apparent
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Fhemmmy
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Let the world body go and be silent, what Sanusi has saved some of the world business, cos some of them has money in some of the banks that were close to going under, OBAMA and USA gave close to 1Trillion $$ to not just banks but to make other industries and some of theose industries used some of the money to treat people and themselves to spas and resorts. The negativity will come back to be songs of praise soon. How many banks has gone under in the USA this year alone, how come they dont have bad rating yet? How many banks has gone done in Nija this year? We need to appreciate what we have, though not perfect, but still sailing.
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naijaking1
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Your analogy with US and Obama are totally wrong. Your comparison with the money passed by congress and the money printed by Sanusi are laughable, Are you ever going to learn?
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Fhemmmy
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Yes the bailout was passed b the congress and wasnt by Nigeria, very much true. But tell me, would u have rather expected the CBN to do nothing and allow the banks to have fallen?
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naijatoday
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The U.S Treasury needed Congress's approval to borrow money from the Federal Reserve to buy shares of banks and other institutions that were systematically important to the economy.
The CBN gave a Tier 2 Capital (type of loan) to banks using its own asset (money). If the Ministry of Finance wanted to borrow money and buy shares of banks and companies listed on the Nigeria Stock Exchange (NSE), then it will need the National Assembly approval.
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naijaking1
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Yes the bailout was passed b the congress and wasnt by Nigeria, very much true. But tell me, would u have rather expected the CBN to do nothing and allow the banks to have fallen?
I would rather have our CBN do the right thing, not make things worse.
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naijaking1
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The U.S Treasury needed Congress's approval to borrow money from the Federal Reserve to buy shares of banks and other institutions that were systematically important to the economy.
The CBN gave a Tier 2 Capital (type of loan) to banks using its own asset (money). If the Ministry of Finance wanted to borrow money and buy shares of banks and companies listed on the Nigeria Stock Exchange (NSE), then it will need the National Assembly approval. As long as the Tier 2 capital is not used as a government means of stealing privately owned banks. Oceanic bank is valued at about 3 trillion naira, Sanusi injects a paltry 100 billion or less, then he rushes to appoint his own managing director. That's clearly an abuse of the system and probably worse than the problem he claims to be trying to correct.
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ndu_chucks
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naijaking, i like de passion wey you take dey defend ya position, keep it up. we go see whether in de long term, you dey correct. if time prove say your judgement dey accurate, i go come back praise your wisdom.
in de maintime, one of de people wey dey dear and near to ya heart, Ogbeni Erastus Akingbola don go report to UK police o. maybe you never see de thread, but i dey wait to see your perspective on the report. e be like say, Akingbola dey implement him own due process well well. oya, we dey wait for ya reaction.
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naijaking1
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naijaking, i like de passion wey you take dey defend ya position, keep it up. we go see whether in de long term, you dey correct. if time prove say your judgement dey accurate, i go come back praise your wisdom.
in de maintime, one of de people wey dey dear and near to ya heart, Ogbeni Erastus Akingbola don go report to UK police o. maybe you never see de thread, but i dey wait to see your perspective on the report. e be like say, Akingbola dey implement him own due process well well. oya, we dey wait for ya reaction.
Mallam, I thank you. I defend principles, not persons. If Akingbola and others appear as victims of unjust principle, I tend to defend them, and I think you should too, despite answering a fake Igbo name, and having very strong Arewa agenda. If you don't defend an unjust principle, sooner or later, it might become your turn to suffer. If you, me , or Akingbola is accussed of any crime, it's natural to be given an opportunity to defend ourselves---why do you have a problem with that? Trust me if at the end of the day, these people are convicted, I'll be one of those to should for their heads, but until then, let civility reign.
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ndu_chucks
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naijaking,
you dey accord de accused CEOs courtesy such as, make dem face courts bla bla bla. Their cases don enter court system already and court don grant some of dem bail sef. but why you no give me de same courtesy? you just accuse me say i get fake igbo name and call me Mallam. na so your justice be, right? you just dey assume tings without proof.
one ting dey indisputable, if any bank's CEO and board members, for any bank anywhere in de world, give out loans, and de loans suck out de life inside de banks and vaporize deposits of ordinary people, to de point say na CBN loan de banks dey take operate; common sense go tell us say de CEOs and board of directors must be held accountable. firing dem na one such accountabiliy. cbn get legal right to fire dem according to law wey national assembly pass - at least until supreme court tell us otherwise.
why e dey difficult for you to hold these CEOs and directors accountable? make you try explain dat one to me, maybe I dey miss someting. your due process excuse no hold water at all, because de court system dey handle the cases with due process.
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naijaking1
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naijaking, you dey accord de accused CEOs courtesy such as, make dem face courts bla bla bla. Their cases don enter court system already and court don grant some of dem bail sef. but why you no give me de same courtesy? you just accuse me say i get fake igbo name and call me Mallam. na so your justice be, right? you just dey assume tings without proof.
one ting dey indisputable, if any bank's CEO and board members, for any bank anywhere in de world, give out loans, and de loans suck out de life inside de banks and vaporize deposits of ordinary people, to de point say na CBN loan de banks dey take operate; common sense go tell us say de CEOs and board of directors must be held accountable. firing dem na one such accountabiliy. cbn get legal right to fire dem according to law wey national assembly pass - at least until supreme court tell us otherwise.
why e dey difficult for you to hold these CEOs and directors accountable? make you try explain dat one to me, maybe I dey miss someting. your due process excuse no hold water at all, because de court system dey handle the cases with due process.
You're Chuks Ndu, Ndu-chucks, or Chucks Ndu, just like I am Sarkin Kano!. Calling you mallam is with the greatest respect. Anyway, let's not turn this into personal issues. There're banking rules, and there're punishment for going against those rules, who would know better than the Nigerian Institute of bankers. I don't support people taking or borrowing money from the banks so much so that the banks will collapse, nobody does. But, just because you suspect that to be the case, doesn't mean you should break every rule known to man to "prevent" banks from collapsing. Like I said in another thread, there's more to banking than just risk management. I don't support any CEO, who is convicted of stealing money, but we must assume they are innocent until proven otherwise, that's what the western philosophy we're pursuing says. Islamic philosophy might have said something different, but the one I know says, try them, judge them, convict them; before they're called criminals. We're not going to line up and stone them to death just because Sanusi cried foul.
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Fhemmmy
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I would rather have our CBN do the right thing, not make things worse.
What would have been the right thing for the CBN to have done?  ?
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ndu_chucks
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There're banking rules, and there're punishment for going against those rules, who would know better than the Nigerian Institute of bankers. I don't support people taking or borrowing money from the banks so much so that the banks will collapse, nobody does.
But, just because you suspect that to be the case, doesn't mean you should break every rule known to man to "prevent" banks from collapsing. Like I said in another thread, there's more to banking than just risk management.
I don't support any CEO, who is convicted of stealing money, but we must assume they are innocent until proven otherwise, that's what the western philosophy we're pursuing says. Islamic philosophy might have said something different, but the one I know says, try them, judge them, convict them; before they're called criminals.
We're not going to line up and stone them to death just because Sanusi cried foul.
naijaking, you dey mixup 2 issues in an apparent dishonest attempt wey you wan take put wool cover our eyes. de principle of presumption of innocense na good ting and up till now, no court don convict de CEOs of any finacila crime. court system go determine their innocense or guilt in due time. de second issue be say, regulatory agency (CBN) talk say these banks through their CEOs issue gazillion naira worth of non performing loans. as de loans don turn out to be bad loans, no be the CEOs and the board dey responsible? we no need court system to tell us this obvious fact. non of de CEOs dispute say dem give out de loans, they all gree say de loans dey bad. na de CEOs make bad decision and na their responsibility to safeguard depositor's and sharholders funds wey dem don abdicate. dis issue dey too plain and simple and I no understand your stance at all. abeg help me understand. Note dat i no dey talk of de financial crimes allegations, but de bad judgements wey de CEOs make. I dey wait.
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naijaking1
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naijaking, you dey mixup 2 issues in an apparent dishonest attempt wey you wan take put wool cover our eyes. de principle of presumption of innocense na good ting and up till now, no court don convict de CEOs of any finacila crime. court system go determine their innocense or guilt in due time.
de second issue be say, regulatory agency (CBN) talk say these banks through their CEOs issue gazillion naira worth of non performing loans. as de loans don turn out to be bad loans, no be the CEOs and the board dey responsible? we no need court system to tell us this obvious fact. non of de CEOs dispute say dem give out de loans, they all gree say de loans dey bad. na de CEOs make bad decision and na their responsibility to safeguard depositor's and sharholders funds wey dem don abdicate. dis issue dey too plain and simple and I no understand your stance at all. abeg help me understand. Note dat i no dey talk of de financial crimes allegations, but de bad judgements wey de CEOs make. I dey wait.
My brother, it's either you already have a tribal wool over your eyes already, or can't understand the issues involved. i'm not trying to pull anything over your eyes. First point, they all don't agree that all the loans were bad, even CBN had to come back and re-classify some of the loans as performing after they were already classified as non-performing. Even the amounts allegedly borrowed have fluctuated with time, place, and people involved. The banks might not have been excellent in every aspect, but the CBN pposition is even more detrimental every one of us---loss of credibility. Just think about this: why was it not easier for the CBN to ask those banks to replenish those bad loans in say 24-hr, than to go to these lenght just to prove that a banking earthquake was about to happen in Nigeria, but for the intervention of Sanusi, the whole nation was saved! That's amaturish to say the least. What do you know about bad banking judgement? Many banks give non-collateralized loans, all the time, even the banks that supposedly passed CBN test(FBN,UBA,Unity,etc), also gave loans without collaterals, sometimes, these loans yield profit, and the share holderss profit, but sometimes too, they could go bad---that is called risk, and it's an accepted part of the banking business. Even if there was bad lending practices, it's not a crime, it's subjective, and people must be given an opportunity to either explain it or rectify it. Why didn't Sanusi do that?
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ndu_chucks
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My brother, it's either you already have a tribal wool over your eyes already, or can't understand the issues involved. i'm not trying to pull anything over your eyes.
First point, they all don't agree that all the loans were bad, even CBN had to come back and re-classify some of the loans as performing after they were already classified as non-performing. Even the amounts allegedly borrowed have fluctuated with time, place, and people involved. The banks might not have been excellent in every aspect, but the CBN pposition is even more detrimental every one of us---loss of credibility.
Just think about this: why was it not easier for the CBN to ask those banks to replenish those bad loans in say 24-hr, than to go to these lenght just to prove that a banking earthquake was about to happen in Nigeria, but for the intervention of Sanusi, the whole nation was saved! That's amaturish to say the least.
What do you know about bad banking judgement? Many banks give non-collateralized loans, all the time, even the banks that supposedly passed CBN test(FBN,UBA,Unity,etc), also gave loans without collaterals, sometimes, these loans yield profit, and the share holderss profit, but sometimes too, they could go bad---that is called risk, and it's an accepted part of the banking business. Even if there was bad lending practices, it's not a crime, it's subjective, and people must be given an opportunity to either explain it or rectify it. Why didn't Sanusi do that?
naijaking, you don start dis ya dribbling like Maradona again. you dey try to minimize the size of de bad loans, right? you don forget say, CBN recover almost N70billion within 2 weeks, yet de banks still no get enough capital. nobody dey talk about crime here. why e hard you to admit say any bank CEO along with their directors of any bank, wey issue band loans to the tune of several trillion naira, should be held accountable? i no dey talk of criminal accountability o. be honest enough to say these CEOs bear some responsibiliies here. you fit disagree with sanusi methods, or de way way efcc handle de matter, but na only dishonest person no fit talk say these CEOs get culpability and share responsibility for the crisis. be man enough to admit that. i agree with you in a lot of the issues here, but try call a spade, a spade.
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naijaking1
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naijaking, you don start dis ya dribbling like Maradona again. you dey try to minimize the size of de bad loans, right? you don forget say, CBN recover almost N70billion within 2 weeks, yet de banks still no get enough capital. nobody dey talk about crime here.
why e hard you to admit say any bank CEO along with their directors of any bank, wey issue band loans to the tune of several trillion naira, should be held accountable? i no dey talk of criminal accountability o. be honest enough to say these CEOs bear some responsibiliies here. you fit disagree with sanusi methods, or de way way efcc handle de matter, but na only dishonest person no fit talk say these CEOs get culpability and share responsibility for the crisis. be man enough to admit that. i agree with you in a lot of the issues here, but try call a spade, a spade.
The 70billion recovered so far came out of other banks, so don't be too excited without knowing the greater implication on Nigeria's banking sector in general. Yes, I agree that CEOs and their directors should be held accountable, very much so. However, the steps taken so far by Sanusi is not even going to ensure accountability in the future
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ndu_chucks
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The 70billion recovered so far came out of other banks, so don't be too excited without knowing the greater implication on Nigeria's banking sector in general.
Yes, I agree that CEOs and their directors should be held accountable, very much so. However, the steps taken so far by Sanusi is not even going to ensure accountability in the future
na de bolded statement wey i don dey try extract from you since. de wey you dey come across dey make people like me tink say you no want make anyone hold de CEOs accountable. your disagreement na de method wey sanusi take handle de condition wey him see for de banking industry. Time will tell whether Sanusi style get wisdom. I no get issue with you again. but i go dey watch you like hawk and go try help you balance your posts with moderation. 
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OvieE
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I would rather have our CBN do the right thing, not make things worse.
Yes the bailout was passed b the congress and wasnt by Nigeria, very much true. But tell me, would u have rather expected the CBN to do nothing and allow the banks to have fallen?
Fhemmmy, you do not get it do you? There is something called protocol/the law. In USA, they follow the law to able to get the money out but in Nigeria, the CBN just printed the money without consulting people first. That is why nobody following the Constitution or take proper measurement/direction in Nigeria because once you are a leader, you can do anything at anytime on your own. Nigerian CBN government are example why common people on the street will not follow the law because once you leader can break the law or bypass veryone including the senates and congress on suppose to give him go ahead or not, I will break the law as well. Things work in USA but nothing works Nigeria.
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Fhemmmy
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Fhemmmy, you do not get it do you? There is something called protocol/the law. In USA, they follow the law to able to get the money out but in Nigeria, the CBN just printed the money without consulting people first. That is why nobody following the Constitution or take proper measurement/direction in Nigeria because once you are a leader, you can do anything at anytime on your own. Nigerian CBN government are example why common people on the street will not follow the law because once you leader can break the law or bypass veryone including the senates and congress on suppose to give him go ahead or not, I will break the law as well. Things work in USA but nothing works Nigeria.
yeah, the USA followed the law and what is the law of Nigeria on this kinda issue?
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naijaking1
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na de bolded statement wey i don dey try extract from you since. de wey you dey come across dey make people like me tink say you no want make anyone hold de CEOs accountable. your disagreement na de method wey sanusi take handle de condition wey him see for de banking industry. Time will tell whether Sanusi style get wisdom. I no get issue with you again. but i go dey watch you like hawk and go try help you balance your posts with moderation.  You did not extract anything from me, my friend, you probably didn't get where I have been coming from all this while. The truth is that I never supported Sanusi for this very important job, because of his resumee(not because he's Hausa or Muslim), but that earlier disagreement turned into a tribal jib-jab. However, when he was confirmed by the senate, I personally wished him all the best, and hoped he would use his much described understanding of the Nigerian situation to make positive changes. When Sanusi began to act recklessly with people's money, concerned shareholders like me ought to take notice. Unfortunately, people like you, Jarus, etc has continued to tow what I call blind tribalistic line, because despite al convincing evidence that things are not good with our banking system, you guys still held tight that Sanusi is the banking messiah, he is not. Au contrare. Thanks for watching over me, hopefully we could teach each a thing or two down the line.
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ndu_chucks
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naijaking, you still dey act like say you no understand wetting i dey talk since, ko? well i no believe you. Hear you: When Sanusi began to act recklessly with people's money, concerned shareholders like me ought to take notice
de issue wey i get with you be say, you no take notice of de recklessness of the CEOs with de same enthusiasm wey you take dey criticise sanusi and cbn. thus, reasonable people go conclude say your reaction dey unbalance and was probably tribal based. i don tell you before, if you balance your write-up well well, you no go hear from people like me. I stilll dey watch you.
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OvieE
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naijaking, you still dey act like say you no understand wetting i dey talk since, ko? well i no believe you. Hear you: When Sanusi began to act recklessly with people's money, concerned shareholders like me ought to take notice
de issue wey i get with you be say, you no take notice of de recklessness of the CEOs with de same enthusiasm wey you take dey criticise sanusi and cbn. thus, reasonable people go conclude say your reaction dey unbalance and was probably tribal based. i don tell you before, if you balance your write-up well well, you no go hear from people like me. I stilll dey watch you.
Whether you like it or not, Sanusi is reckless. He is bad to Nigeria economy.
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naijaking1
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naijaking, you still dey act like say you no understand wetting i dey talk since, ko? well i no believe you. Hear you: When Sanusi began to act recklessly with people's money, concerned shareholders like me ought to take notice
de issue wey i get with you be say, you no take notice of de recklessness of the CEOs with de same enthusiasm wey you take dey criticise sanusi and cbn. thus, reasonable people go conclude say your reaction dey unbalance and was probably tribal based. i don tell you before, if you balance your write-up well well, you no go hear from people like me. I stilll dey watch you.
Why is it so hard for you to understand? Before the global banking crises, Oceanic share was as high as #49.00, when the stocks fell all over the World it affected Nigeria too, Oceanic stocks came down to less than #6, but it began to slowly stablize(--mind you, I did say everything was perfect) like other banks. Then Sanusi struck, what is it today----technical suspension. If he sells the bank to foreigners or to some other preferred group, that group, might even decided that my 20,000 shares would now be worth 200 shares, or that I would have no share at all. They could say this with CBN and Yar'dua government backing. And if you think that people would just walk away from bilions and billions of their own money, all in the name of Sanusi's craziness, then you better think again. Also, think about how the above scenerio would discourage future investors in Nigeria. I speak as someone who's got money for the bank, not just as an ordinary Nigeria. And guess what, there millions of people all over Nigeria just like me. Please stop talking about the banks falling, because nobody, not you or Sanusi has the interest of the banks at heart more than the shareholders, and board that built the bank up from nowhere. This talk about rescuing the banks to save them for the future is stupid, and I don't know why Sanusi and his apologists think any reasoning person would believe that. When last I was in Nigeria in 1987, there was no Oceanic bank, that bank was literarily given birth to by Cecilia Ibru, she might not be an angel, but given other serious issues in the Nigerian environment, she deserves awards, not incaceration like a common criminal.
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