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samorijack (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #96 on: September 18, 2009, 05:52 AM »

As far as I am concerned Mr Adeboye is guilty by association. He's lost all creddibility in my eyes. The prosperity messages he's now famous for his very public association with very questionable characters. He is a very skilled manipulator and PR expert. In truth what can he say? they're all his friends an associates, the oppressors of the people that is. He prays for them and obviously approves of their handling of the situation.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #97 on: September 18, 2009, 06:00 AM »

Samorijack and Must a far,

Well said
nuzo (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #98 on: September 18, 2009, 06:42 AM »

@topic

Daddy("god") is a business mogul, a jet setter and an entrepruenuer and not a POLITICIAN.

So, why must he speak?
chosen04 (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #99 on: September 18, 2009, 09:16 AM »

   

    But of what benefit is the title of most influential person in Nigeria if he cant influence Government Policies for the betterment of his country, including his members?

   Is he an influential person without INFLUENCE??
Nokka
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #100 on: September 18, 2009, 09:24 AM »

Men who have done great evil were regular churchgoers. Men who enslaved and brutalized others, torturers, many racists. Not one pim comes out Nigerians about this, but let it be a Nigerian, all hell breaks loose. According to the non sequitur argument we should hold the Pope personally responsible for every molesting priest and churchgoing Nazi.
By the way I am waiting for the Nigerian laity to tell the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury to sell their sumptuous accommodation and use the money to "help the masses" to prove their piety.

@chosen04, direct engagement is not always the solution. The Catholic Church never came out and condemned Hitler, but secretly many clergymen and women did what was right and saved  many marked for death despite the strained relationship with the Jewish community. If they showed their hand openly they would have not been able to do what they did. What I would like to see is religious figures verifying Tax returns before accepting any donation over N1 million.



floriana (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #101 on: September 18, 2009, 09:39 AM »

I did not know that a great majority of Nairalanders despise Mr. Eunuch Adeboye like this o. That means there is still hope for Nigeria. For the ignorant who have taken refuge under the opium called religion and have become enslaved by ordinary men like Adeboye, please wake up and realise that Adeboye is not any more man of God than you, unless of course you make yourself man of the devil.
yjay (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #102 on: September 18, 2009, 09:48 AM »

@poster, its funny u shld ask this question cos i actually thought abt it! i asked myself how come Pastor Adeboye isnt saying anything when we openly see some of these influential pple in his church especially during the holy ghost service at the redemption camp even sitting in the front seats & then it occurred to me SAY WHAT TO THEM EXACTLY?Huh? wat is he supposed to say??? the truth is a lot of these so called influential pple go to him cos they see him as a spiritual leader & a highly anointed man of God & they feel they can buy their way through so many things or feel that they are automatically forgiven if they go to church or give large sums of money as offerings or tithes, But pls lets not even kid ourselves for a second that Pastor Adeboye does not really know these pple & tell them to their faces irrespective of who they are to desist from their evil ways!
I think hes doing what is expected of him as a man of God by telling them to their faces when they come to his church but they still go ahead to ignore & we certainly cant blame him for that!
ifihearam
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #103 on: September 18, 2009, 10:05 AM »

@Yjay

Thanks for that post, at least we still have some reasonable people here.

There was a Magazine AD that said,  when the Man of God was in his forties,"Get on Tour with the G.O". He was going on a missionary Journey to the nation of isreal then. Today, just post a thread on this Man of God and the outcry u get back will be ernomous. Even the press are  waiting to make another scincillating eye catching storyline out of his talks. Is there little wonder why he is one of the most influential people on earth as some call it? So is it not better to keep quiet when u know your cough will make so many heads start rolling? It is a gift given to him by God, to influence people right from the start of his ministry and it pays him  not to abuse it by making unplanned and unguided remarks. No matter what coloration we give, this man has certain real backings from the Almighty.

Thank You.


Thank you indeed my friend
floriana (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #104 on: September 18, 2009, 10:18 AM »

I did not know that a great majority of Nairalanders despise Mr. Eunuch Adeboye like this o. That means there is still hope for Nigeria. For the ignorant who have taken refuge under the opium called religion and have become enslaved by ordinary men like Adeboye, please wake up and realise that Adeboye is not any more man of God than you, unless of course you make yourself man of the devil.
Mudley313
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #105 on: September 18, 2009, 10:19 AM »

Archbishop Desmund Tutu not only spoke out but vigorously fought against apartheid in SA

Rev. ML King not only spoke out but marched and died fighting segregation in America

but our so-called men of God wine n dine with our oppressors while seeking favors from them, Its Money over the consequences of fighting against injustice

I'll put Fela or Gani far above these private jet flying so-called men of God their worshippers mugus put n such a high pedestal






walesz
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #106 on: September 18, 2009, 10:50 AM »

Its really terrible when some of us make assertions that are childish, no brainer, sometimes downright stupid without any basis for spiritual and/or even intellectual content basically for lack of information, understanding and wisdom. The freedom supposedly we get because of being anonymous on sites like this doesn't preclude us from the consequences of the WORDS we use even on this earth before considering eternity.

Therefore I'd like to advice that we seek wisdom diligently 1st, on any issue because only then will we be able to contribute positively. 'cos we all will account for any and all idle words we speak during our life time regardless of the forum.

A word is enough for the wise. Only a fool will see a trap & then still walk into it.
fuke (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #107 on: September 18, 2009, 11:15 AM »

   You cannot divorce Religion from Politics. You have to think about the papacity, the prophets
   in the bible, Bishop Desmond Tutu and our own Gbonigi.

    Baba Adeboye is not alone in this, except perhaps the Methodist church of Nigeria, all of them
    did not see anything wrong in 2007election which we all know was rigged, at least in the west.

    Erastus Akingbola former boss of Intercontinental launched an FM station and Baba was the first
   on the mic.OBJ had the mic at Redeem monthly retreaat, the following day he was at Owu picking
    Kolanut with his mouth and he still went back there only to be given the mic again. We are not judging
    but for Gods sake,  those who God has given the platform to speak, let them speak.
  
   But they cannot and will notbecause the Yoribas say when you eat Dodo(fried plantain), you cannt
   speak ododo(truth).
jumman (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #108 on: September 18, 2009, 11:38 AM »

Wat do u guys exactly want him to say? Fine cecilia Ibru is a memeber of his church and with her character she has shown to do whole world dat shes just a hearer of the word and not a doer of Gods teachings dat she has been hearing through the servant of God, and Bible even tells us dat a sinner will not go unpunished. Besides pastor Adebayo is a prophet and not a politician.
chosen04 (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #109 on: September 18, 2009, 12:20 PM »

Quote from: Mudley313 on September 18, 2009, 10:19 AM
Archbishop Desmund Tutu not only spoke out but vigorously fought against apartheid in SA

Rev. ML King not only spoke out but marched and died fighting segregation in America

but our so-called men of God wine n dine with our oppressors while seeking favors from them, Its Money over the consequences of fighting against injustice

I'll put Fela or Gani far above these private jet flying so-called men of God their worshippers mugus put n such a high pedestal


Mudley313,
 Pls tell them. Its obvious we now have two types of Christian leaders
Christian leaders from other parts of the world SPEAK OUT and FIGHT bad goverance, But
Christian Leaders from Nigerian wine and dine with LOOTERS and encourage us to pray and fast for GOOD GOVERNANCE





chosen04 (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #110 on: September 18, 2009, 12:23 PM »

Mudley313,
 Pls tell them. Its obvious we now have two types of Christian leaders
Christian leaders from other parts of the world SPEAK OUT and FIGHT bad goverance, But
Christian Leaders from Nigerian wine and dine with LOOTERS and encourage us to pray and fast for GOOD GOVERNANCE
lannre (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #111 on: September 18, 2009, 12:38 PM »

what is the essence of religion that will not preach reasons why the Governement cant fix things,is there no political offices in the church and mosques. Where do they hide(the Rulers) under annointing oil,under Alfa prayers. God is in your heart,stop fooling. Indoctrinations-  Most of tyhe clerics will beg in the hereafter.
darqly (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet?
« #112 on: September 18, 2009, 01:00 PM »

I guess the preponderance of bad governance and evil in Nigeria is largely due to the facat that religous leaders don't TALK at all. These are people of influence and respect, but they hide behind the cloth and don't call what is bad, bad, thereby giving it their endorsement by proxy.
I wish they'd be courageous enough to speak out more.
davnci
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #113 on: September 18, 2009, 02:13 PM »

let somebody shout halleluyaaaaaaaaa.baba is prayn to GOD,,so lets join him,,being the most influential wil change nothin.shetigborrrr Shocked
dayokanu (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #114 on: September 18, 2009, 02:29 PM »

Show me your friends and I would tell who you are.

Your friends are Erastus, OBJ, Cecilia, Gbenga Daniels and co so what do you expect EUNUCH to be other than a THIEF
mikijagga
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #115 on: September 18, 2009, 03:10 PM »

This question is rather sensitive, and bothers about personality. I will advice that whoever is addressed a man of God, should be given his due respect.

In an open fora like this, you shouldn't even bring up issues like this. We see some kids even beat up their parents. For such, what sort of contribution do you expect? Talking about "washing dirty linen outside". If he flies a rocket, there is nothing anyone can do about it. He who God belssed, no man can curse.

Back to the question, same way a personality like Arch Bishop Okoye, Pastor Chris Okotie and Oniayekan is outspoken about political matters, same should not be applied to everyother personality. Even then, do we really heed to the ones we hear?

If Pastor Adeboye chooses to contribute, good, and if he decides otherwise, I think he should be left alone.

His leadership skills is not in question. With the congregation he pastors, and even for us who watch on TV, this country will be better for it if we follow his preaching,  or you may ask, what sort of message will he be preaching to the congregation(politicians inclusive) apart from turning people to God???

We should learn to respect people in authority, thats what we owe ourselves and Nigeria will be better for it.
bawomolo (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #116 on: September 18, 2009, 04:31 PM »

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If Pastor Adeboye chooses to contribute, good, and if he decides otherwise, I think he should be left alone.

pastor adeboye doesn't contribute, he takes in contribution.
3kay945 (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #117 on: September 19, 2009, 08:05 AM »

many re brainWASHED!, as far i know, jesus christ was radical, he wont ve kept quiet if were to be a 9jarian, no one is askin for anythin than SIMPLY TRUTH ADVICE.,to d govt. his followr re sufferin!! ;P
3kay945 (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #118 on: September 19, 2009, 09:07 AM »

the monthly holy+ghost nite wont be necessary if govt change nd better d country., i live opposite synagogues church though i dnt attend, but i admire T.B most.,becos i can see 4myself what he does to d POOR.
chosen04 (f)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #119 on: September 19, 2009, 04:08 PM »

Quote from: 3kay945 on September 19, 2009, 09:07 AM
the monthly holy+ghost nite wont be necessary if govt change nd better d country., i live opposite synagogues church though i dnt attend, but i admire T.B most.,becos i can see 4myself what he does to d POOR.

@3kay945
   
      Am happy u dont attend cos there is more to that helping the poor that T.B does than meet the eyes
3kay945 (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #120 on: September 19, 2009, 08:13 PM »

@chosen04 do u ve any fact nd evidenc against him, 
timmy7 (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #121 on: September 20, 2009, 10:06 AM »

Oya come and tell us what we dont know abt tbj chosen Huh
Tudór (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #122 on: September 20, 2009, 11:55 AM »

We've said it time and time again. Adeboye is a liar and two faced crook. He kisses the arse of corrupt leaders for his pocket. Thank goodness he's 67 years old. The old fool wouldn't be with us much longer. The sad part is another theiving moron would likely take his place. . . . I weep for nigeria!
Alonu (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #123 on: September 20, 2009, 12:16 PM »


THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN MULTIPLE ATTACKS FROM NAIRALANDERS WHENEVER THE NAME ADEBOYE IS MENTIONED. EVERY TIME I JUST KEEP WONDERING WHY HE HAS TO BE INSULTED FOR NO JUST CAUSE. I RESPECT NAIRALANDERS A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL THERE'S A BETTER NIGERIA AHEAD OF US WHENEVER I VISIT THIS SITE AND SEE THE INTELLIGENT POSTINGS OF NAIRALANDERS. BUT ADEBOYE IS JUST A MAN OF GOD WHO HAS DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF FROM OTHERS IN HIS HUMBLE LIFESTYLE. I  HAVE WORKED WITH HIM AS A BODY GUARD FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS NOW AND I KNOW HIS KIND OF PERSON, PASTOR ADEBOYE WOULD NOT WANT TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING UNLESS HE IS URGED TO DO SO. I  THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYONE TO TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID INSULTING SUCH PEOPLE PUBLICLY, NOTHING STOPS YOU FROM SAYING WHATEVER YOU FEEL ABOUT PEOPLE BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE ON PUBLIC FORUMS LIKE THIS.

 I KNOW I WOULD BE INSULTED AS USUAL BY THE UNREPENTANT ONES BUT A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE. Lets keep our religious differences to ourselves
Tudór (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #124 on: September 20, 2009, 12:54 PM »

Quote from: Alonu on September 20, 2009, 12:16 PM

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN MULTIPLE ATTACKS FROM NAIRALANDERS WHENEVER THE NAME ADEBOYE IS MENTIONED. EVERY TIME I JUST KEEP WONDERING WHY HE HAS TO BE INSULTED FOR NO JUST CAUSE. I RESPECT NAIRALANDERS A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL THERE'S A BETTER NIGERIA AHEAD OF US WHENEVER I VISIT THIS SITE AND SEE THE INTELLIGENT POSTINGS OF NAIRALANDERS. BUT ADEBOYE IS JUST A MAN OF GOD WHO HAS DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF FROM OTHERS IN HIS HUMBLE LIFESTYLE. I  HAVE WORKED WITH HIM AS A BODY GUARD FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS NOW AND I KNOW HIS KIND OF PERSON, PASTOR ADEBOYE WOULD NOT WANT TO COMMENT ON ANYTHING UNLESS HE IS URGED TO DO SO. I  THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYONE TO TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID INSULTING SUCH PEOPLE PUBLICLY, NOTHING STOPS YOU FROM SAYING WHATEVER YOU FEEL ABOUT PEOPLE BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE ON PUBLIC FORUMS LIKE THIS.

 I KNOW I WOULD BE INSULTED AS USUAL BY THE UNREPENTANT ONES BUT A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE. Lets keep our religious differences to ourselves
You know, this is the exact same thing osama bin ladens driver said about his terrorist master when arrested. . . .coincidence?
koyedemi
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #125 on: September 20, 2009, 01:22 PM »

Old Testament Men of God and New Tetament servants of God like John the baptist were never politicians but played their role well as 'conscience of the nation", especially of national leaders. they spek fiercely against ungodly leadership and acts. so, I expect every servant of god, especially those who with national recognition not to keep quite when in comes to speaking about unrighteousness in "high places' in Nigeria.
Cokerr (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #126 on: September 20, 2009, 03:16 PM »

What do you expect him to say?a man of God wit a private jet,dont you think he is just as corrupt,he is just like them,heartless and selfish,maybe he is your daddy,spiritual or whatever,he can only fool people like you,he has nothin to say,he is an enemy of progress,we dont need 'influential' people like him. As a matter of fact,if everybody thinks this way,Nigeria's doomed.
babalawo (m)
Re: Is Baba Adeboye Too Quiet On Political Issues?
« #127 on: September 20, 2009, 11:40 PM »

I have always said and I will repeat  that our churches, mosques and shrines has totally failed us in this country

The truth must be said we dont have leaders both spiritually and politically.Our traditional 'chiefs' are the same.

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