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yeswecan
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Why are we hiding from the truth? Nigerians are more comfortable in Ghana because they are treated well. South Africans prefer whites to blacks; they are more like racist to smaller countries around them. I can't imagine a European country demonstrating/killing other European citizens for taking their jobs.
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morpheus24
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@ yeswecan unfortunately they inherited this rightwing capitalist resentment from the apatheid era(nationalist party). it will take time.
This is not to excuse our Nigerian brethren who are causing havoc over there, but advocating killing of people like animals is inhuman.
I wil not stand for that.
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Gamine (f)
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Why are we hiding from the truth? Nigerians are more comfortable in Ghana because they are treated well. South Africans prefer whites to blacks; they are more like racist to smaller countries around them. I can't imagine a European country demonstrating/killing other European citizens for taking their jobs Truth.
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thando (f)
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With over 5mil illegal immigrants streaming in yo country freely. The fg seemingly turns a blind eye . . . hmmm i wonder how ordinary nigerians would have dealt with that!
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morpheus24
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^@Thando
You should ask why the gove is seemingly turning a blind eye. Could it be capitalist interests.
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Rebarobyn
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true, it gives me great concern how the SA people complain about illegal immigrants and crime being committed by "foreigners" and your govt is not doing anything about it, i.e. the drug retailers- we know SAPS arrests them everyday but somehow they still get released because their files or evidence goes missing, why? its simple, the SA law enforcers- SAPS, immigration, border patrol etc are corrupt. Unless SA purges its law enforcement of corruption, illegal immigrants will continue to flood your country and drug business will flourish.
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morpheus24
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^
TIA
THIS IS AFRICA!
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Puleza (m)
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Well said Rebarobyn but I hope things will change.
The sad thing is that most people here keep on refering to Xhenophobia without looking at it's scale. It happened toa couple of townships and that doesn't reflect the whole of South Africa. I have been a member of nairaland forum for ages and that shows the interest I have in Nigeria and there are other South Africans who are living peacefully with the Nigerians. The effects os apartheid will take long to be dealt with and the frustration of people not getting employed while the ANC promised that jobs will be created for South Africans have created the hatred of illegal foreigners by Souh Africans because they being hired over South Africans but againt the government should put in place stringent laws of balancing employment of illegal foreigners and the locals. I blame the government for Xhenophobic attacks especially the Thabo Mbeki regime which was only looking after their own interests and failed plenty of South Africans.
Yes, foreginers have experienced Xhenophobia but the same thing happens amongst South Africans as well in a sense of people from one province believing that only people from the dominant ethnic group in that respective province should get employed or even get free houses. At the moment there is a tense environment between Xhosas and Tswanas in North-West province of South Africa and all this is as a result of apartheid.
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morpheus24
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Well said Rebarobyn but I hope things will change.
The sad thing is that most people here keep on refering to Xhenophobia without looking at it's scale. It happened toa couple of townships and that doesn't reflect the whole of South Africa. I have been a member of nairaland forum for ages and that shows the interest I have in Nigeria and there are other South Africans who are living peacefully with the Nigerians. The effects os apartheid will take long to be dealt with and the frustration of people not getting employed while the ANC promised that jobs will be created for South Africans have created the hatred of illegal foreigners by Souh Africans because they being hired over South Africans but againt the government should put in place stringent laws of balancing employment of illegal foreigners and the locals. I blame the government for Xhenophobic attacks especially the Thabo Mbeki regime which was only looking after their own interests and failed plenty of South Africans.
Yes, foreginers have experienced Xhenophobia but the same thing happens amongst South Africans as well in a sense of people from one province believing that only people from the dominant ethnic group in that respective province should get employed or even get free houses. At the moment there is a tense environment between Xhosas and Tswanas in North-West province of South Africa and all this is as a result of apartheid.
Thabo was educated in a capitalist society and saw the successes this system had in its enviroment, Please you should also add that during his tenure SA saw its highest economical success post Apatheid era,Equittabel land redistribution among wthnic groups that were disenfranchised the creation of a middle class black elite in the country as well as the and crease in the GDP per capita. Yes there was a neglect of growing social tensions which led to a push for more socialist agendas to balance the equation however only time will tell if these agendas will actually strengten the nation of cause even more problems. You can't solve poverty by simply giving the poor money to spend.
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agor1974
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Puleza, your analysis why nigerians dont tap into south africa,whos south africa,is it the white south africa or the black south africa,at presently blacks dont own south africa,south africa is a white country,with a majority black slaves who continue to blame others for their woos,the said building in hillbrow is not hijacked by nigerians these building is own by jews white south africans who donst care to Rejuvenate them,cos black people have taken over goverment,nigerians are one of the last africans to arrive s.a,the lazy zimbabwens,mozambque,lesotho,malawi,and the so call sadc nations where the first to arrive s.a to take the white man gardens and shopkeepers these have continue to cause rift between them and the locals black south africans.i have traveled around southern africa i could see the hatered against nigerians,when a black south african needs the help of nigerians thats when they remember that we are of the same color,but after that, nigerians are called fucken NIGERIAN,BY THE SAME SO CALLED BLACK BROTHER.THE DRUG ISSUE IS NOT ONLY A NIGERIAN THING,DRUG DEALING HAVE BEEN GOING ON BEFORE THE NIGERIANS CAME TO SOUTH AFRICA,THESE IS THE WHITEMANS BUSINESS AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CONSUMES IT,I WANT TO ASK U HOW MANY NIGERIANS HAVE BEEN MUDERED BY THE BLACK POLICE BROTHERS NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT,U KNOW QUITE WELL THAT NIGERIANS ARE THE ONLY AFRICANS WHO CAME TO SOUTH AFRICA AND CREATED A PARRALLE MARKET FOR THEMSELVES,THE ASIANS ARE DOING THE SAME,BUYING UP ALL THE GROCERIES SHOPS,AND HAVING CHINESE CITY,COS THEY DONT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO BLACK PEOPLE EXACPT TO BUY THEIR GOODS.WAKE UP
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agor1974
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Pule your photos are nicely taken,with very beautiful views around elis park and china city,and the new rapid transport,brt,what about the townships where are the photos,stop promoting what u did not build,the building in hilbrow and the cbd are own by the few jews in south africa including sandton,i am a black person,and i love my color,and i love my african brothers and sisters thats the way i was thought by my people,to share with my people what i have.imagine if countries like nigeria had actulay supported the white afikaners what do u think that would have happend to the likes of madiba,oliver tambo,mbaki and others,these so called nigerians which many south africans call criminals are the ones who stood against aparthide,to see to the end of it.let me tell u nigerians paid a very high price for the dismantling of aparthide,our country was actualy blackmailed by the west though the media,because the nigerians where chanallenging the western world because of our black people.even the nuclear armed afrkaneer government made nigeria their number one enrmy there main target is to strike nigeria with nuclear weapons,whatever criminality nigerians are involve today is what they learned from the white,for bob marley said we do what they thought us.so far the black south african government has not done much to promote the relationship amongest africans in south africa righter they are busy feuling the situation,nigerians can not invest where they are not accepted espercialy when all opportunities are been blocked by the white minority,who actualy use black south africans to block such opportunities.Do u know how difficult it is for a nigerian to get documents ?
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RSA (m)
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Pule your photos are nicely taken,with very beautiful views around elis park and china city,and the new rapid transport,brt,what about the townships where are the photos,stop promoting what u did not build,the building in hilbrow and the cbd are own by the few jews in south africa including sandton,i am a black person,and i love my color,and i love my african brothers and sisters thats the way i was thought by my people,to share with my people what i have.imagine if countries like nigeria had actulay supported the white afikaners what do u think that would have happend to the likes of madiba,oliver tambo,mbaki and others,these so called nigerians which many south africans call criminals are the ones who stood against aparthide,to see to the end of it.let me tell u nigerians paid a very high price for the dismantling of aparthide,our country was actualy blackmailed by the west though the media,because the nigerians where chanallenging the western world because of our black people.even the nuclear armed afrkaneer government made nigeria their number one enrmy there main target is to strike nigeria with nuclear weapons,whatever criminality nigerians are involve today is what they learned from the white,for bob marley said we do what they thought us.so far the black south african government has not done much to promote the relationship amongest africans in south africa righter they are busy feuling the situation,nigerians can not invest where they are not accepted espercialy when all opportunities are been blocked by the white minority,who actualy use black south africans to block such opportunities.Do u know how difficult it is for a nigerian to get documents ?
Puleza, your analysis why nigerians dont tap into south africa,whos south africa,is it the white south africa or the black south africa,at presently blacks dont own south africa,south africa is a white country,with a majority black slaves who continue to blame others for their woos,the said building in hillbrow is not hijacked by nigerians these building is own by jews white south africans who donst care to Rejuvenate them,cos black people have taken over goverment,nigerians are one of the last africans to arrive s.a,the lazy zimbabwens,mozambque,lesotho,malawi,and the so call sadc nations where the first to arrive s.a to take the white man gardens and shopkeepers these have continue to cause rift between them and the locals black south africans.i have traveled around southern africa i could see the hatered against nigerians,when a black south african needs the help of nigerians thats when they remember that we are of the same color,but after that, nigerians are called fucken NIGERIAN,BY THE SAME SO CALLED BLACK BROTHER.THE DRUG ISSUE IS NOT ONLY A NIGERIAN THING,DRUG DEALING HAVE BEEN GOING ON BEFORE THE NIGERIANS CAME TO SOUTH AFRICA,THESE IS THE WHITEMANS BUSINESS AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CONSUMES IT,I WANT TO ASK U HOW MANY NIGERIANS HAVE BEEN MUDERED BY THE BLACK POLICE BROTHERS NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT,U KNOW QUITE WELL THAT NIGERIANS ARE THE ONLY AFRICANS WHO CAME TO SOUTH AFRICA AND CREATED A PARRALLE MARKET FOR THEMSELVES,THE ASIANS ARE DOING THE SAME,BUYING UP ALL THE GROCERIES SHOPS,AND HAVING CHINESE CITY,COS THEY DONT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO BLACK PEOPLE EXACPT TO BUY THEIR GOODS.WAKE UP
Stop smoking socks,moron
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superboi (m)
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puleza, i will give a short response to your question. the reason you don't see big Nigerian business in RSA is mainly because the nigerian investors are more comfortable with the higher return margins that investing in economies like the one they have at home(Nigeria) give. that why you also see them in Ghana, Uganda et al also because this markets are easier to enter as the are more virgin and the have less competition to compete against. also the have better policies to attract business men like them to those countries which RSA is seeming not willing to give them. Nigerian business men are good if there is demand they will go there to supply i assure you.
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paddy_lo (m)
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@puleza
dont come here to open a thread,and start back amused at how it has degenerated
go ask the south african consulate why,and ask your south african people why
after all there are more than enuff millionaires in nigeria,that can venture abroad and invest if they choose
anyway nigerian companies are capturing markets in west and east africa,so maybe they have their hands full for now
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paddy_lo (m)
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Stop smoking socks,moron and u stop invading our threads,go look for a black south african thread to post on dude was speaking truth there and u dismiss him by saying he is smoking,retard
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honeric01 (m)
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and u stop invading our threads,go look for a black south african thread to post on
dude was speaking truth there and u dismiss him by saying he is smoking,retard
Please don't start again, Nairaland is for Nigerians and friends of Nigeria and he's one.
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