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michelin89 (f)
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not all that glitter is gold like not who dresses normal is a saint
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goodguy (m)
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why twist topics? No one here said everyone that dresses normal is a saint. The only controversy here is that NO SAINT WILL EXPOSE HER BODY. Get the difference??
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Jakumo (m)
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Goodguy you seem to be implying that sexily dressed woman invite and justify rape. First of all, rapists are calculating predators who will stalk and attack women regardless of the manner in which those women are dressed, and whether such snivelling, cowardly men deserve understanding as you imply, or retaliation with deadly force as I see fit, is the subject for another discussion thread.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with sexy dressing women that cannot be alleviated by simply ignoring them, if that is your choice, Goodguy. I LOVE to watch them, as I always have and always will. Maybe someday when you leave the shores and narrow minded prudishness of Nigeria for a visit to the FREE west, you might learn to agree with me, or at least to restrict you concerns to your own affairs, and to leave others alone to live their lives and dress any way they choose without you getting all strung out and hypertensive over those choices.
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goodguy (m)
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I'm not being hypertensive over this. Pls don't get me wrong. I don't think there's anywhere on this thread where i criticized those who dress sexy.(If there is, pls point it out to me, I'll be glad to take correction).
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allonym
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no saint would expose her body - in your mouth, that is a cyclic definition.
You would never call someone who exposes their body a saint, so therefore, you would always be correct.
So essentially, you just made a statement that has no meaning for anyone else.
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udo (m)
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Exactly! and besides why should men be always looking at women's breast  i mean i'ts such a shame that each time a lady passes by a guy must look at her butt or her boobs  that's not FAIR
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allonym
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As long as woman's body is something that men enjoy seeing, the sight of it will catch their eye. I'm sure if Denzel Washington were to walk by some women everyday, their eyes will never fail to follow him. it is human nature to look at things that interest and please you.
I don't see what's unfair about it.
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udo (m)
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well ok, i guess i'll just keep on dressing sexy 'cause i love short skirts and stuff like that. whoever want's to look at me should carry on
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goodguy (m)
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hmm... *exhales*...WWJD?? 
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allonym
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i doubt jesus would care about what you are wearing, its not like he can't see through your clothes. . .so he would do whatever he wants
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goodguy (m)
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Someone should pls define "SEXY".
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allonym
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sexy: marked by or tending to arouse sexual desire or interest
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goodguy (m)
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Now tell me, WWJD when HE comes in physical contact (as in meeting on the way) with a girl whose dressing is marked by or tending to arouse sexual desire or interest?? That was the meaning of my previous post. 
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allonym
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let me try again
Jesus would not be aroused. Clothing means nothing, he can see her body anytime he wants. Therefore, Jesus would do whatever he plans on doing, irrespective of the sexy clothes she is wearing.
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goodguy (m)
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hey!!!! I'm so sorry but u really don't understand my post. I am not talking of Jesus being aroused or not. What I simply meant was this: If Jesus met a girl whose dressing is marked by or tending to arouse sexual desire or interest, do u really think he'd welcome such a girl warmly and say, "It's only a dressing, she's wearing what she feels comfortable in, there's nothin absolutely wrong with that".  That's exactly what I'm trying to say. 
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allonym
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Yeah, he'd hug her and say, you know what you're wearing tends to arouse sexual desire - try not arousing so much
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Seun (m)
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I think he'll say, "poor woman, look at her tattered clothes: all the parts of her body are showing! Can someone get her a real dress? Blessed is he that clothes this woman - whose clothes are not even sufficient to cover her body!"
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allonym
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skintight suits are designed to cover the entire body
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Seun (m)
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Body-lotion and sunscreens are also designed to 'cover' the whole body, but you don't see women putting lotion all over their body and going outside saying "I am fully dressed in body-lotion".
When we say, "cover", we mean cover. The delicate parts of your body ought to be protected and hidden under your clothes. That's what we mean by clothing.
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goodguy (m)
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I think he'll say, "poor woman, look at her tattered clothes: all the parts of her body are showing! Can someone get her a real dress? Blessed is he that clothes this woman - whose clothes are not even sufficient to cover her body!" Thanks Seun!! I've been waiting to hear that.  I really can't imagine Jesus, the Anointed, warmly accepting a girl whose intention is make man commit more sins (knowing the weaknesses of man). skintight suits are designed to cover the entire body But they bring out all shapes provoking enough to make Jesus say, "Get thee behind me, Satan!"
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allonym
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i see. men sin. . women's fault. . . sounds familiar. .
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goodguy (m)
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What I'm trying to point out is this:
We all are sinners - accepted. A gurl who dresses to arouse sexual desires (your definition for "sexy") simply knows that that's one of the numerous powerful ways to make a man commit a sin, thereby increasing his sins. Therefore, I really don't think Jesus will "hug her and say, you know what you're wearing tends to arouse sexual desire - try not arousing so much"; knowing that she's doing something that will make man go against HIS will.
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allonym
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that is wrong.
When you sin, you are doing it on purpose. You are not going against your own will. So that is just bull. The girl dressing sexy is just your excuse for your sin.
I gave you the definition of sexy, however, what is sexy varies from person to person. There are many people who find a nun's habit sexy. Should nuns change the way they dress for that person? What about the person who finds nurse's uniforms sexy?
Aside from having everyone dress in square boxes, you cannot eliminate sexy from a mode of dress.
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1) No matter how you dress (expect for maybe the square box), there will be someone who will find that sexy 2) A person commiting a sin does so of his own accord. I supposed you could be tricked into doing something like lying, but you cannot be tricked into something like committing adultery or any sexual sin. And those are definitely not things you do against your will. If its against your will, you're suggesting to me that the girls are raping those men.
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african (f)
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i dont understand when men/boys moan on what are showing of to much cause everyone knoews they look so why man or disagree
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goodguy (m)
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When you sin, you do it on purpose. - Definitely. You are not going against your own will. - Agreed. The girl dressing sexy is just your excuse for your sin. - This is not about me.
You actually got me wrong earlier. I wasn't talking about the sinner going against his own will. Read this again: ...knowing that she's doing something that will make man go against HIS (Jesus') will.
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allonym
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i still disagree
if going against Jesus' will is by definition sinning, and you agree that nobody can make you sin (in most cases), then you must also agree that a woman cannot make a man sin, it is the man that chooses to sin.
when i say you, i wasn't referencing you (goodguy) directly, it was meant to be a general catchall for all people.
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goodguy (m)
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if going against Jesus' will is by definition sinning, and you agree that nobody can make you sin (in most cases), then you must also agree that a woman cannot make a man sin, it is the man that chooses to sin. You're very right. A man only chooses to sin because he's tempted to. And who causes the temptation (in this concept)? - The woman who dresses to arouse sexual desires. (sexy).
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allonym
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I've already said every woman can be accused of dressing sexily!
What about the man aroused by a nun?
This means that "sexy" is subjective. 150 years ago, what was considered "sexy", we would not. So, women cannot be held to some arbitrary standard that changes according to the whim of man.
This is in line with what God commands. His law is immutable. If there is something whose interpretation changes with every generation, obviously it is being interpreted incorrectly.
A man giving in to lust is the same sin, irregardless of which century we live in. That is what is the true sin.
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Jakumo (m)
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Goodguy, I'll have to pick on you again because your posts harp on the recurrent theme of linking sexual arousal with sin. Hey, snap out of it. There is nothing to be gained by burdening your conscience with such cumbersome baggage, brother man, so accept that women are sexy, and that if they are kind enough to accentuate those features that men like to see by dressing lightly, then who are we to complain ? Those young women posses the goodies, and when all is said and done, there ain't a damn thing you or I can do to stop them dressing as they please, so why not sit back and enjoy the fact that you have 20-20 vision to see and appreciate the wonders of life.
Any straight male with a healthy hormonal levels is going to be attracted to women. I wouldn't be here to contribute to this discussion if my dad didn't look at my mom all those years ago and say to himself " Man oh man, I have got to get some of that."
Life is complicated enough without us burdening our minds with guilt every time a scantily dressed woman walks by, causing our pulse to quicken and our pants to feel a size too small. The concepts of guilt and sin should be left to the police and judiciary.
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allonym
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You're very right. A man only chooses to sin because he's tempted to. And who causes the temptation (in this concept)? - The woman who dresses to arouse sexual desires. (sexy).
I know he's going to protest this whenever he next gets to read this, but goodguy set himself up so well, i cannot resist. When a kid chooses to take candy his parents left on a table (that he can reach) even though they told him not to do it, goodguy is saying that the parents are at fault for causing the temptation (by leaving the candy in his reach). That can be easily extended to prove that God is responsible for all sin, by creating things which tempt us. So, really goodguy, if we must blame someone for causing temptation, we must blame God. After all, if he didn't create the woman and allow her to decide to wear sexy clothes, then the man wouldn't have been enticed to sin at all. So, I know goodguy would say we should not blame God for our sin, and since we cannot blame the person who created the temptation, goodguy in saying that would have just disagreed with himself (in the post i quoted).
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udo (m)
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I therefore put it that the accused (Women/Ladies) Not Guilty and to the men GUILTY
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allonym
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oh wow, i've got even more for goodguy. he's going to love this:
So, goodguy, why don't we just have everyone dress the way God originally intended for us to dress. . .
Yep - naked. Since Jesus has come and taken on "original sin" by the Grace of God, we are forgiven for those sins. As Christians, we therefore should be able to live naked amongst each other, after all, that is how we were originally designed by God.
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