Grail Message Or Grail Centre

I came across the message in 1984 and made it my way of life since 1990. I am an adherent of the message.

@HND - HOLDER and Enitan, nice to meet you guys. I was sealed after my high school graduation back in '95.  This is the first time I have come across fellow adherents on a web forum. @Otuwe even if you're not an adherent, that's okay, what is important is you are not drowning in the putrid pool prejudice, malice and  religious fanaticism and you seem to be making good use of your spiritual autonomy. The most important thing is living in accordance with the will of Almighty God through your dealings with your fellow human beings, because this is what will make or break you. Practice that love that Our Lord Jesus preached in deeds and not in words, whether you are a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or Rosicrucian 

guys dont get me wrong.

am a grossbearer and am not denying it.

i dont have problem having a forum of crossbearers but the problem i have is the way some of us are presenting the Message as if they are introducing a new novel.

i feel its wrong advertising the Work this way.



                                                                 *these are my opinions anyway*

cuz you sounded like you were part of them thats how or why

Who is in that pix attached? uchetobi ! can not be an adherent

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=3183

No not for my self but staying by the truth. Hypocrites are dangerous more then evil doers.

Hi y'all

am also a Grail adherent,  I'd really love to join your forum.

this is really a priviledge.

Those who borrow the opinions of life without reading the VOLS of the Grail Msg "In the Light Of Truth by Abrushin" only do themselves great harm and injustice,examine for you own good,if u feel it does not contain any valid information for u,then it is not for u,I will suggest that u drop it,but if u do find it meaningful,hold on to it.Because the Author said that it is only directed to the Individual, not Family,People or a Nation,but directly @ the Individual.Never neglect your healthy limbs to walk on Clutches.It reveals all that Christ the Son of God spoke about,the 10 wise Virgins who were awaiting the coming of the Bride Groom,half recognise his coming,while the foolish 5 could not.

People open your eyes and your hears,listen to your Spirit,let it control your volitions.

The seperation of the Quick from the Dead is @ hand,Christ has come and gone.Don't expect him again JOHN 16,any of the Bible.

Be Alert Spiritually!

@luwadmusic, this is not a thread or forum for the Adherents of the Grail Message. This is Nairaland so feel free to share your opinions and together in Love can we grow.
Best wishes

Thank you pastor, ignorant is a sickness, You need to open your mind and read the great work first.

The mission of Christ.
He spoke only of those things that people of His time needed to know to enable them to make spiritual progress. He did not teach all there was to know. And so Paul could say:
For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully ,  ( I Corinthians 13: 9 - 12 ).
It should, therefore, be clear that the fact that an idea is not in the Bible, does not mean that the idea is false. That is, some truths are not in the Scriptures.
In this connection, let it be noted that the Trinity is not a concept that is mentioned frequently in the Bible. Indeed, the only direct mention is one single verse in the First Epistle of John:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one (1 John 5:7). (Authorized King James Version).
But even this verse is known to biblical scholars to be a very late interpolation (addition) and is sometimes omitted from modem translations of the New Testament. In other words, a direct mention of the Trinity is technically non-existent in the Bible. The Revised Standard Version, for example, states: 'There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood". It is almost far-fetched to consider this a reference to the Holy Trinity.
Matthew reported that Jesus commissioned the disciples to go and teach all nations, baptizing them "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19). But this quotation does not necessarily imply that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one. Despite the slimness of the evidence in the Bible, the Trinity has come to be accepted as central to Christian belief about the nature of God. And, of course, the Trinity is a correct teaching, a definite reality. But it must be rightly understood.

John the Baptist
Both Matthew (11:1-15) and Luke (7:19-28) report what Jesus thought of John the Baptist. John the Baptist heard, while in prison, about the activities of Jesus. He sent two of his own disciples to go and find out if Jesus was indeed the one "who is to come, or shall we look for another?" (Matthew 11:3; Luke 7:20).
Many Christians would probably have wondered about this errand. Why would John the Baptist send people to find out for him who Jesus was? John had baptized Jesus at the River Jordan before Jesus started on His Mission. Matthew's account of that occasion suggests that John the Baptist recognized Jesus, that he knew who Jesus was, as the following passage indicates:
Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John, to be baptized by him. John would have prevented him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" But Jesus answered him, "Let it be so now; for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness". Then he consented (Matthew 3: 13 - 15).
It should be noted that St. Mark's account of the baptism of Jesus contains nothing to indicate whether or not John the Baptist recognized Jesus (Mark 1:9-12). Was Matthew in error in reporting that John the Baptist knew exactly who Jesus was at the time he baptized Him?
If John the Baptist recognized Jesus at the time of the baptism, what follow-up actions did he take? Had he forgotten about the event by the time he sent his followers, or had his faith wavered in prison? Obviously his faith could not waver; for his courage and the strength of his conviction were exceedingly great. And we have it on Christ's authority that he was much more than a prophet and that "among them that are born of women, there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist." These considerations are somewhat of a digression since they do not touch on the issue of reincarnation - the subject matter of this book.
What is of great relevance to reincarnation is a statement provided by Matthew in the account of this incident:
And if you are willing to accept it, he is Elijah who is to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear. (Matthew 11:14-15).
And if you are willing to understand what I, mean, he is Elijah, the one the prophets said would come. And if ever you were willing to listen, listen now! (Matthew 11:14-15, The Living New Testament).
Here in a clear language, the writer of Matthew says that John the Baptist is the reincarnation of Elijah. As we have already discussed, the Jewish people were expecting Elijah to reincarnate "before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord." It is clear from his Gospel that Matthew firmly believed that the time of Jesus Christ was the "great and terrible day of the Lord." For this reason he could state, without any hesitation, that John the Baptist was the reincarnation of Elijah.
Please note that John the Baptist was conceived and born as a baby by Elizabeth, the wife of Zechariah. He did not appear on the scene as an adult, as would be expected if a mere return of the physical body of Elijah was what happened.
By this statement, the author of the Gospel according to Matthew makes two points: first, reincarnation is a fact; second, Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist.
The first point confirms the fact that belief in reincarnation was widespread at the time of Jesus and was accepted by His followers. Some Christian sects today believe, on the strength of this passage in Matthew, that John the Baptist was indeed a reincarnation of Elijah. But there is considerable doubt about this. St. Luke's account of the same visit of the disciples of John the Baptist to Jesus is the same as that of Matthew with one important exception: Luke completely omits the statement that John the Baptist was Elijah.

You speak upon the Trinity yet again you are miss leading for you do not speak in Truth.

No where in the Holy Bible will you find the word trinity. However in John 1:1  we see the closest to the Trinity. Reference Genesis 1:1 and you have the full Trinity present. In the beginning God (Eloheem) created the heavens and earth. Eloheem is hebrew a plural word with a singular meaning.

1:1. As far back as man can think, in the beginning . . . the Word was existing. The term “Word” is the common Greek word logos, which meant “speaking, a message, or words.” “Logos” was widely used in Greek philosophical teaching as well as in Jewish wisdom literature and philosophy. John chose this term because it was familiar to his readers, but he invested it with his own meaning, which becomes evident in the prologue.
The Word was with God in a special relationship of eternal fellowship in the Trinity. The word “with” translates the Greek pros, which here suggests “in company with” (cf. the same use of pros in 1:2; 1 Thes. 3:4; 1 John 1:2). John then added that the Word was God. Jehovah’s Witnesses translate this clause, “The Word was a god.” This is incorrect and logically is polytheism. Others have translated it “the Word was divine,” but this is ambiguous and could lead to a faulty view of Jesus. If this verse is correctly understood, it helps clarify the doctrine of the Trinity. The Word is eternal; the Word is in relationship to God (the Father); and the Word is God.
1:2. The Word has always been in a relationship with God the Father. Christ did not at some point in time come into existence or begin a relationship with the Father. In eternity past the Father (God) and the Son (the Word) have always been in a loving communion with each other. Both Father and Son are God, yet there are not two Gods.
1:3. Why is there something rather than nothing? That is a great question in philosophy. The Christian answer is God. He is eternal, and He is the Creator of all things. And the Word was the agent of Creation (cf. 1 Cor. 8:6; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2). All Creation was made by the Word in relation with the Father and the Spirit. John stressed the work of the Word. He came to reveal the Father (John 1:14, 18); and the work of revelation began in Creation for Creation reveals God (Ps. 19:1-6; Rom. 1:19-20).
1:4. Life is man’s most important asset. To lose life is tragic. John affirmed that in the ultimate sense, life is in Christ. Man’s spiritual and physical life come from Him. (For John’s teaching on life, cf. 5:26; 6:57; 10:10; 11:25; 14:6; 17:3; 20:31.) Jesus, the Source of “life” (cf. 11:25), is also the light of men (cf. 8:12). Light is commonly used in the Bible as an emblem of God; darkness is commonly used to denote death, ignorance, sin, and separation from God. Isaiah described the coming of salvation as the people living in darkness seeing a great light (Isa. 9:2; cf. Matt. 4:16).
1:5. Light’s nature is to shine and dispel darkness. Darkness is almost personified in this verse: darkness is unable to overpower light. By this, John summarized his Gospel record: (a) Light will invade the dominion of darkness. (b) Satan the ruler and his subjects will resist the light, but they will be unable to frustrate its power. (c) The Word will be victorious in spite of opposition.
Walvoord, J. F., Zuck, R. B., & Dallas Theological Seminary. (1983-c1985). The Bible knowledge commentary : An exposition of the scriptures (2:271-272). Wheaton, IL: Victor Books.

Do not confuse your self, seek for the the truth the truth shall set you free. You are only quoting the book written without your own experience PASTOR BHC. Stop wasting time. Just like empty barrels sound so people without knowledge sounds.
Swallow your pride and read the message then we can talk. Regards

@ HND-HOLDER,

how things, so sorry to have left this thread got diverted to another thread, its good things are still being kept up here, will be in lagos as from next friday and i will really us to meet, what du ya think? i will surely be on GRAILLAND on next sunday

Hm,  I must confess that I am elated by the way and manner a number of the members here stood up and wove a thread of good fate for themselves. For in their very good volition, they shall dwell in the same consistency they have put into creation. I would like to mention here that I am a muslim by birth and have come across the Message for quite sometime now. Ever since I came by it, my perception about life has changed drastically.

I see life in it's perfect naturalness as designed by the Almighty. I appreciate the Adamantine Laws woven into creation. These are evidences of the Purity of Godhead. To you who use your thoughts, words and actions in vain and idle talks, you had better watch it, for every sin committed against the Father and the Son will be forgiven but that against the Will of the Almighty. The Almighty does not want slothful and lazy worshippers, rather he implores us to be objective and true servant thru weighing and examining!

Conclusively, the Grail Message is the Greates of all the flood of books I have ever come across. No gaps. No doubts. Everything is laid out in outright simplicity and naturalness. The Bringer of the Message did not advertise Himself just as Christ only hammered on the Message He brought to humanity. Please be watchful of what you say, for whatever you put into creation you shall reap even more. It was not without reason that Christ said: What a man sow, that shall he reap!

I rest my case,  only he who has a third eye understands!

Mikail