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4 Him (m)
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Awolowo does not define the whole Yoruba tribe.
He was just a scum bag.
yes, a lying,2 faced murderer of little children and a scum
I hope he repented before croaking
You just insulted papa Awo?  |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Awolowo does not define the whole Yoruba tribe.
He was just a scum bag.
yes, a lying,2 faced murderer of little children and a scum
I hope he repented before croaking
Ojukwu was the real scum bag. He is the one that subject his people through all the ordeals of war due to his greediness, all in the name of oil. You just insulted papa Awo? Na today ? She is a well renowned tribalist. |
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debosky (m)
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@ 4Him
unfortunately despite his near deification in Yorubaland, he did TERRIBLE things during and after the war to the Igbos - advocating starvation as a legitimate war tool as well as repaying 20 pounds to people regardless of how much they had before the war, this inevitably led to the igbos having a poor start in owning enterprises in Nigeria especially during the indigenisation time which came not long after the war.
He did good things in other areas, but in war and promises/relations with the Igbo, he would likely be tried for crimes against humanity.
Yoruba people be trusted? It depends on the individual, there is no cultural/otherwise reason to hold this view except for a bland generalisation.
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sheniqua
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You just insulted papa Awo? did I carry water in my mouth to say it?  a man that refused food to starving innocent victims of war, little children, is the lowest of the low in my books. Let me dig up his sayings and quote him.
Ojukwu was the real scum bag. He is the one that subject his people through all the
ordeals of war due to his greediness, all in the name of oil.
I doubt if you've read any history books to note that the killing of Igbos in Northern Nigeria started way before the war and attempted cessation. |
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sheniqua
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@ 4Him
unfortunately despite his near deification in Yorubaland, he did TERRIBLE things during and after the war to the Igbos - advocating starvation as a legitimate war tool as well as repaying 20 pounds to people regardless of how much they had before the war, this inevitably led to the igbos having a poor start in owning enterprises in Nigeria especially during the indigenisation time which came not long after the war.
He did good things in other areas, but in war and promises/relations with the Igbo, he would likely be tried for crimes against humanity.
Yoruba people be trusted? It depends on the individual, there is no cultural/otherwise reason to hold this view except for a bland generalisation.
He is the most wicked thing that ever existed in that entity called Nigeria. Thank God the Igbo man has survived and waxed stronger. Charles Taylor is St Michael compared to that man. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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@ 4Him
unfortunately despite his near deification in Yorubaland, he did TERRIBLE things during and after the war to the Igbos - advocating starvation as a legitimate war tool
as well as repaying 20 pounds to people regardless of how much they had before the war, this inevitably led to the igbos having a poor start in owning enterprises in Nigeria especially during the indigenisation time which came not long after the war.
He did good things in other areas, but in war and promises/relations with the Igbo, he would likely be tried for crimes against humanity.
Yoruba people be trusted? It depends on the individual, there is no cultural/otherwise reason to hold this view except for a bland generalisation.
Yakubu Gowon, Enahoro were also party to this. Awolowo cannot be held solely responsible for decisions taken by the Gowon administration. Igbos are just bitter that they lost the war and use Awolowo as an excuse to preach their hatred toward yorubas. Gowon and the north are igbo enemies, not Awolowo and yoruba people. |
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4 Him (m)
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Awo is no saint, infact Ojukwu was no better than he was. BUT there is no doubt this man was an astute politician and was one of those who laid the foundation on which western nigeria lies today.
Where was Nnamdi Azikiwe? Where were all the igbo leaders when their people were being driven out of the north, killed, starved and brutalised?
It is easy to lay everything at Awo's doorsteps. He was a federal minister and it was his duty to help his government win the war against secession. My mom was actually captured during the war so its not as if this is a biased support for a man who was prone to mistakes like everyone of us.
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sheniqua
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Awolowo is the singular reason why Igbos say Yorubas are untrustworthy.
If he's regarded as a Yoruba hero they ought to find another.
He had blood in his hands till the cold hands of death snatched up his cold soul
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4 Him (m)
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Gowon
and the north are igbo enemies, not Awolowo and yoruba people.
thank you bro. Too bad many of the igbo leaders are either too blind or too greedy to see. |
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sheniqua
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Awo is no saint, infact Ojukwu was no better than he was. BUT there is no doubt this man was an astute politician and was one of those who laid the foundation on which western nigeria lies today.
Where was Nnamdi Azikiwe? Where were all the igbo leaders when their people were being driven out of the north, killed, starved and brutalised?
what could they have done? rescued people being hacked to death in their homes and in trains? haba 4him, na you dey ask this kain Q It is easy to lay everything at Awo's doorsteps. He was a federal minister and it was his duty to help his government win the war against secession. And he did a good job I suppose by stopping food fronm getting to war victims. If this were today he would have been tried and hanged in cold blood. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Awo is no saint, infact Ojukwu was no better than he was. BUT there is no doubt this man was an astute politician and was one of those who laid the foundation on which western nigeria lies today.
Where was Nnamdi Azikiwe? Where were all the igbo leaders when their people were being driven out of the north, killed, starved and brutalised?
It is easy to lay everything at Awo's doorsteps. He was a federal minister and it was his duty to help his government win the war against secession. My mom was actually captured during the war so its not as if this is a biased support for a man who was prone to mistakes like everyone of us.
Excellent synopsis ! Very brilliant i might add. Like I said, Igbos are just bitter they lost the war and vent their anger at Yorubas because of this. It's that simple. Enahoro and Gowon were party to using starvation as a war tool, not just Awolowo. So why place all the blame on him  |
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4 Him (m)
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And he did a good job I suppose by stopping food fronm getting to war victims.
If this were today he would have been tried and hanged in cold blood.
no. America is today at war in Iraq . . . not all the generals are in support of the war but as soldiers their primary duty is to develop strategies to defeat the "enemy". Awo simply did his job as a minister, an attempt to support the igbo would have landed him either in prison or following the footsteps of gallant soldiers like Adekunle Fajuyi. |
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sheniqua
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Excellent synopsis ! Very brilliant i might add.
Like I said, Igbos are just bitter they lost the war and vent their anger at Yorubas because of this. It's that
simple. Enahoro and Gowon were party to using starvation as a war tool, not just Awolowo.
Awolowo and his cohorts backed out of the original plan,I'm sure you've read that part of history. Chicken hearted I might add. That's why I don't think Yorubas should complain about the namas in the north and at the same time revere Awo. He was part of the mess we're in. By now I would not have had to deal with the abokis if only he was man enough. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Up till today, Northerners kill igbos at the slightest chance they get, using religion & co as excuse, yet,
it is Awolowo and the yorubas you igbos keep dwelling on. Give me a break !
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vicade (m)
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Typical nna Igbos. Awo is dead, long and buried and nothing you say about him wont change anything nor remove his face from the 100 naira currency. Biafra Ko Biafra Ni. Igbos are okay it is just that some of them push their luck with this Biafra thing. Ojukwu was responsible for the Biafran genocide and he will be remembered as a selfish warlord when he dies. Read about the Aburi conference leading up to the civil war. And it is because of all these , it will be very very difficult for the Hausa North and Muslims to see an igbo man president.Not South south,not ijaw,not itsekiri, but a true igbo like ojukwu or nnamanni to be president will be difficult. |
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sheniqua
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no. America is today at war in Iraq . . . not all the generals are in support of the war but as soldiers their primary duty is to develop strategies to defeat the "enemy". Awo simply did his job as a minister, an attempt to support the igbo would have landed him either in prison or following the footsteps of gallant soldiers like Adekunle Fajuyi.
Yes America is at war and the American soldiers are not taking food out of the mouth of ordinary Iraqis. May God bless the lineage of Fajuyi forever! |
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sheniqua
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Up till today, Northerners kill igbos at the slightest chance they get, using religion & co as excuse, yet,
it is Awolowo and the yorubas you igbos keep dwelling on. Give me a break !
Look at this idiot! I suppose Oluwatoyin that was slaughtered over insulting the K'oran is Igbo You must be the only person that doesn't know that Yoruba M'uslims are equally slaughtered. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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And he did a good job I suppose by stopping food fronm getting to war victims.
If this were today he would have been tried and hanged in cold blood.
Didn't the Americans bomb Japan with an Atomic bomb during WW 2 ? How many Americans were taken to trial ? The Japanese still feel the radioactive health effects of this bombing today. |
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Negro_Ntns (m)
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Sheniqua, cool down
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debosky (m)
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@ 4Him
as the finance minister, he was directly responsible for the 20 pounds payment, so who do you want to blame? Enahoro may have been part of the government, but did you ever hear him come out and say that he supported starvation as a legitimate tool of war? He said it and supported it, not to talk of the stabbing in the back move or the 20 pounds impoverishment. Let us not mince words, he did commit these heinous offenses.
prone to mistakes is one thing, egging something on and actively supporting it is another - what justification was there for impoverishing the Igbo with the 20 pounds thing? This is not about him not doing good things, but the bad things he did were egregiously so - unforgivable even.
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Arnold1 (m)
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Look at this idiot!
You are the idiot, you useless tribalist. anuofia |
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4 Him (m)
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Awolowo and his cohorts backed out of the original plan,I'm sure you've read that part of history.
Chicken hearted I might add.
That's why I don't think Yorubas should complain about the namas in the north and at the same time revere Awo.
He was part of the mess we're in.
By now I would not have had to deal with the abokis if only he was man enough.
that is where i think Awo made his first monumental mistake. |
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sheniqua
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that is where i think Awo made his first monumental mistake.
Awo was not a man. Eastern and Western Nigeria would have been solid countries by now and most of us here would not have been. The guy messed up big time. |
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Negro_Ntns (m)
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, and who was to say that if Awo had gone along with the plan the outcome would have been much better than what it is now?
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4 Him (m)
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@ 4Him
as the finance minister, he was directly responsible for the 20 pounds payment, so who do you want to blame? Enahoro may have been part of the government, but did you ever hear him come out and say that he supported starvation as a legitimate tool of war? He said it and supported it, not to talk of the stabbing in the back move or the 20 pounds impoverishment. Let us not mince words, he did commit these heinous offenses.
prone to mistakes is one thing, egging something on and actively supporting it is another - what justification was there for impoverishing the Igbo with the 20 pounds thing? This is not about him not doing good things, but the bad things he did were egregiously so - unforgivable even.
Debo, he was a federal minister . . . what did you expect him to do? He had to at least show he supported the very government that hired him in the first place. If you were the accountant of your company would you be secretly looking to allocate bumper pay to someone your bosses had laid off? |
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4 Him (m)
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Awo was not a man.
Eastern and Western Nigeria would have been solid countries by now and most of us here would not have been.
The guy messed up big time.
I 100% agree. If there is any negative on Awo's record for me it is that he shld have followed the east to seccede. If he had done so it would have rendered Gowon and his cohorts powerless. Too bad there is no one with Ojukwu's spine left. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Typical nna Igbos.
Ojukwu was responsible for the Biafran genocide and he will be remembered as a
selfish warlord when he dies. Case Closed. You have said it all |
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Negro_Ntns (m)
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How could you predict events in retrospect of what we now know? People take lessons learnt from gret events like that and turn into strategic maneuvering to avoid future losses
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sheniqua
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Debo, he was a federal minister . . . what did you expect him to do? He had to at least show he supported the very government that hired him in the first place. If you were the accountant of your company would you be secretly looking to allocate bumper pay to someone your bosses had laid off?
4 him please don't say this. The same way he allocated 20 pounds to a millionaire Igbo man is the same way he would have given him at least 50,000. He was not giving them his own money. It was his plan to starve them to death in the war,it didn't work then he tried it after the war,it still didn't work. It only made the Igbo man work harder than anyone else and we all the results today. From 20 pounds?my people deserve an award  |
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LadyT (f)
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God bless you Negro
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4 Him (m)
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Igbos are okay it is just that some of them push their luck with this Biafra thing.
Ojukwu was responsible for the Biafran genocide and he will be remembered as a selfish warlord when he dies. Read about the Aburi conference leading up to the civil war.
And it is because of all these , it will be very very difficult for the Hausa North and Great Ones to see an igbo man president.Not South south,not ijaw,not itsekiri, but a true igbo like ojukwu or nnamanni to be president will be difficult.
Nna stop am. The Hausa north will not allow an igbo man be president not because of what Ojumwu did but because they know that the end of the Nigerian project would signal their slide to extreme poverty. A look at their neighbours in Niger is a strong reminder to them why Biafra must never see the light of day. Ojukwu was no warlord, rather he was a man who was able to see tomorrow . . . unlike the charlatans we have in power today. If Biafra had succeeded many of us would be rushing to immigrate their today. |
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debosky (m)
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Debo, he was a federal minister . . . what did you expect him to do? He had to at least show he supported the very government that hired him in the first place. If you were the accountant of your company would you be secretly looking to allocate bumper pay to someone your bosses had laid off?
Would you stand guard at a prisoner of war camp and exterminate Jews simply because you were part of the German Army? Is that justification for the evil? What kind of support to kill millions of souls and deprive them of their lives' work? There is NO justification for the crimes he committed, no one held a gun to his head and said he must serve in Gowon's government - he used the war to better himself and get in a position of power, he was not in the government till his volte-face after initially declaring to leave Nigeria if the igbos did. |
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