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4 Him (m)
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Jakande me ass. . . . . .who the rat is Lateef Jakande? A glory hunter who had many projects built in his name to make kids like u believe he really did something. To a kid like u, Babangida conceived the 3rd mainland bridge, innit? I am having a laugh.
Are y'all cats aware Awolowo was once the Governor of the Western region? Cocoa House, Liberty Stadium and many landmarks in the western region were all conceived by the Great Awolowo. . . . . .Hell, this topic should have been brought up in the daytime when i could have blown all y'all into bits.
those "landmarks" are in Oyo state bro not Lagos. Jakande built the 3rd mainland bridge. |
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Arnold1 (m)
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It may surprise you to note that that is not the problem.
The problem with Nigeria in general is corruption not federal presence.
whatever roads Awolowo built,are they being maintained today?
what happens to the money allocated to states?
does it take federal presence to pay common teachers in a classroom or give pipeborne water.
Are the roads in Ibadan better than those in Umuahia?
Corruption is a big chunk of the problem, but so is federal presence. It is a well known fact that the south east roads are the worst of the 6 geo-political zones in the country. At one point, legislators from the south east went on a hunger strike to compel the federal govt to do something about their federal roads. The building of the onitsha-owerri road (at 26 billion naira) was a condition the south east gave obj for his re-election in 2003. The roads in Kaduna, Kano and Zaria are far better than those of the south. |
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4 Him (m)
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"federal presence" is a Nigerian invention. A fraudulent way of sidestepping the real problem . . . lack of a strong fiscal federal system where everybody is forced to be prudent as you only get paid as much as you produce.
If you cant produce then you get no roads chikena.
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sheniqua
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mba make una leave am.
Awolowo's sperm was also used to fertilize women.
Great Awo!
We're talking of the sorry state of Nigeria, he's naming buildings.
Murtala Mohamm'ed airport is also in Lagos and after doing a number 2,you're forced to wipe your bakassi on the wall if you have no tissue in your purse.
let him keep praising nonsense.
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debosky (m)
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Liberty Stadium? Cocoa House? Is that what your parents used to send you to school? Boy stop talking nonsense - Its like claiming Abuja is developed today because El-Rufai is the minister of FCT - it was FEDERAL FUNDING for the most part that built up the infrastructure in Lagos so stop saying all this nonsense. Even in the days of the so called 'Western Region', Lagos was administered as the Federal Capital and not as part of the 'region' as such. So what are you going on about?
and to start making comments like A or B started armed robbery shows you are not someone to be taken seriously.
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sheniqua
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Corruption is a big chunk of the problem, but so is federal presence.
It is a well known fact that the south east roads are the worst of the 6
geo-political zones in the country.
At one point, legislators from the south east went on a hunger strike to compel the federal govt
to do something about their federal roads.
The building of the onitsha-owerri road (at 26 billion naira) was a condition the south east gave obj
for his re-election in 2003.
The roads in Kaduna, Kano and Zaria are far better than those of the south.
let's check the road out in a few years. How about the state roads are they waiting for federal presence too? The local roads in Ajegunle and Mushin and abakpa nike. |
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sheniqua
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Liberty Stadium? Cocoa House? Is that what your parents used to send you to school? Boy stop talking nonsense - Its like claiming Abuja is developed today because El-Rufai is the minister of FCT - it was FEDERAL FUNDING for the most part that built up the infrastructure in Lagos so stop saying all this nonsense. Even in the days of the so called 'Western Region', Lagos was administered as the Federal Capital and not as part of the 'region' as such. So what are you going on about?
and to start making comments like A or B started armed robbery shows you are not someone to be taken seriously.
actually I need to see his thesis on the history of armed robbery. I'm sure he never heard that Biafran soldiers had to surrender their guns to Nigeria. Awusa people will soon appear and tell us how hausas developed abuja with wealth from gworo and kulikuli there's nothing I won't hear |
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Arnold1 (m)
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"federal presence" is a Nigerian invention. A fraudulent way of sidestepping the real problem . . . lack of a strong fiscal federal system where everybody is forced to be prudent as you only get paid as much as you produce.
If you can't produce then you get no roads chikena.
So, what did the people of Zaria produce to get all the federal infrastructure they have ? Hausas will never agree to a strong federal fiscal system because they'll end up just like Niger or Chad. When I said federal presence, I meant it in the context of what we are currently practicing. A city like Aba needs federal presence badly. In the US., the boston "big dig" highway is being financed with federal tax dollars, not MA state money. There are some projects in a country that are too much (in scope, funding etc) for a state to handle individually; this is where the federal govt steps in. |
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~Xerxes~ (m)
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those "landmarks" are in Oyo state bro not Lagos. Jakande built the 3rd mainland bridge.
The whole Yoruba area was known as the Western Region. . and Awolowo ensured they had the best of everything. Free education in the 60s was better than the Manna Israelis had in the wilderness. Whar are u talking about? Jakande compared to Awolowo. . . . .You are taking the piss. Is that what your folks told you?
Guess where the first Nigerians ever executed for drug offences came from?
My friend go and sit down.
Armed robbery started in the East and infected Yorubas?
what does that make Yorubas if you say so
easily influenced ?
This is the biggest crap I ever heard
clap for yaself
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwaaaaaaa!!!
We are talking armed robbery and u are talking drugs? Whats the correlation? @ Debosky, You wont stop spewing like a pillock, would you? There was nuthing like Lagos until 1979 when Obasanjo was in power. . . . .Lagos, Oyo or Osun was not the issue. . .Everywhere was classified as the Western Region. In a Nigeria where the Northern Region have always rigged elections to keep power up north, Awolowo did an excellent job keeping Lagos crisp. Federal funding me ass. . . . .so Ile-Ife and Ibadan were parts of Lagos State? Must u spew like an idiot for the sake of it? Have u been to these Universities? Seen the original blueprint and the vision of a great leader like Awolowo? Lil did u know that without Awolowo, u might have ended up being a fisherman(hereditary talent).   |
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sheniqua
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So, what did the people of Zaria produce to get all the federal infrastructure they have ?
Hausas will never agree to a strong federal fiscal system because they'll end up just like Niger or Chad.
When I said federal presence, I meant it in the context of what we are currently practicing.
A city like Aba needs federal presence badly.
In the US., the boston "big dig" highway is being financed with federal tax dollars, not MA state money.
This is what I am talking about.
Aba needs sanitation and good roads and both are not federal handouts. what happens to the money allocated to the states and local governments? Abia state now gets oil allocations since some of the oil wells stolen from Igboland have been returned but where does the money go? |
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sheniqua
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We are talking armed robbery and u are talking drugs?
Whats the correlation?
That is one fact I know and it's documented.Show me your proof that armed robbery started in Igboland and I'll hold my peace. didn't know drug pushers and dealers are better than robbers  thought they both were scum bags |
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~Xerxes~ (m)
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Babes, it's no rocket science.
It was the Igbos against the Federal Government.
There was acute shortage of food, water and many natural resources. The FG ignored all these shortages and it was HELL in the East.
After the war, there was nothing to do for these lads who had guns in their possession . . . . .
It was a natural phenomenom for em to use these arms to get what they want. Every tom dcik and harry in Nigeria knows Armed Robbery started in the East. Onitsha n Enugu being the Mecca of armed robbery.
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sheniqua
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Babes, it's no rocket science.
It was the Igbos against the Federal Government.
There was acute shortage of food, water and many natural resources. The FG ignored all these shortages and it was HELL in the East.
After the war, there was nothing to do for these lads who had guns in their possession . . . . .
It was a natural phenomenom for em to use these arms to get what they want. Every tom dcik and harry in Nigeria knows Armed Robbery started in the East. Onitsha n Enugu being the Mecca of armed robbery.
Can you show me your proof or should I believe it because you said it? Tell me also how Yorubas joined in while you're at itwhat happened ? where was awo? |
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Arnold1 (m)
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Aba needs sanitation and good roads and both are not federal handouts.
what happens to the money allocated to the states and local governments?
Abia state now gets oil allocations since some of the oil wells stolen from Igboland have been returned but where does the money go?
The fact that states and local govts are corrupt is not in disrepute. The federal govt currently controls 52.68 % of all monies shared by the federation account. The federal govt's savings is over $12 billion dollars (this is different from our foreign reserves, that belongs to the whole country). Now, what does the federal govt do with over 50% of all monies shared by the federation account ? The good roads that you say Aba needs, the fed govt should shoulder some of the financial burden (Just as the US does - e.g. the boston example) because it controls most of the money anyway . Abia state cannot transform Aba with its meager resources. If we were practicing good fiscal federalism like 4him stated, then the states would have more freedom to control and provide for themselves. Unfortunately, we are not. |
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debosky (m)
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This boy is so stupid and continues to vent his stupidity - what about the reduction of soldiers in the Nigerian Army after the war - the people demobilized since they were no longer needed? Were they Igbo too? Or is it the Igbo who were starved of weapons and virtually blockaded to prevent any external supplies that had enough guns to throw around? Do you know 80% of the weapons in the ND now was sold to them from the Army armouries?
Now he tells me there was nothing like Lagos till 1979? There was no Federal Capital which got funding eh? But why bother - some people will say the uttermost rubbish to justify a stupid position.
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sheniqua
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I'll read the response of this your revelation in the morning @ jackal from an authentic source especially how edos,deltans,Itsekiris and especially Yorubas joined the business of thievry.
No debo leave am.Is he the first to tell us how Igbos are the worst things that happened to Nigeria without proof.
All those area boys in Lagos molesting innocent citizens were under Igbo tutelage.
Those criminals all over Wesrtern Nigeria were corrupted by Igbo traders in their neighborhoods.
Even the ones that shot Bola Ige,were probably schooled in Mbaitoli Ikeduru.
There's nothing people won't say out of hatred.
Make I go cuddle
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4 Him (m)
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The whole Yoruba area was known as the Western Region. . and Awolowo ensured they had the best of everything.
why are there no such "landmarks" in Ogun, Ekiti, Ondo, Osun? Were they part of the northern region? There was nuthing like Lagos until 1979 when Obasanjo was in power Laa kuli! this one don pass illiteracy! |
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4Her (f)
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efi Ekiti sile jo
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debosky (m)
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Shenny say hi to oga for me jare
David why are you bothering? He will soon tell you Awo conceived GSM and Nigeria's satellite in space during a dream in 1985
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Arnold1 (m)
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There was nuthing like Lagos until 1979 when Obasanjo was in power. . . . .
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4Her (f)
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lmao! I hope that was a mistake too  |
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~Xerxes~ (m)
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Can you show me your proof or should I believe it because you said it?
Tell me also how Yorubas joined in while you're at it
what happened ?
where was awo?
PROOF? Nuthin is documented in Nigeria but the theory is simple. Idle men with nuthing to do and loads of ammunitions in their possession. . . . .do i need to spell it out? Yorubas joined in when the Igbos migrated like the Israelis to Lagos State(Canaan). . . .Centre of excellence. Eastern States to Lagos is the same as Lagos to UK/USA. Any Igbo man/woman traveling to Lagos is expected to come back with the goodies. . . . .why is this so? The number of Igbos in Lagos outweighs the number of Yorubas in the whole Easten region. . . . .Why is this so? Law of Gravity? @ Debosky, You are still bleating like a goat. . . . . If the Federal funding was the real McCoy. . . . .why do u have OAU and UI outside Lagos(which is supposed to be the capital of Nigeria). To a ninny like u, those were just coincidence, huh? Are u aware those 2 schools put together have produced more well-meaning graduates than the other Universities in Nigeria? Blimey. . . . .when would u boost your IQ? Until OBJ becomes the President of the United States i guess. . . . You are talking about Biafran soldiers, u are talking abot the demobilised army. . . . . The Biafran soldiers surrendered to the might of the Federal Government. . . . .After they did, there was nuthing to fall back on. Land, water and other natural resources were destroyed as they were used as the battle ground(something Awolowo avoided happening tio the western region). . . . .Igbo men had nuthing else. . . .they were in a worse condition than te Iraqis. . . . . They had weapons, they were jobless/idle thus armed robbery. . . . .is that hard to figure out, u pederast? @ 4 Him, I never said Lagos State never existed until 1979. . . . You must actually be a fool to feel that was what i said. I was only saying. . . . Awolowo developed many areas outside Lagos State which Debosky still claims were part of Federal funding. What has federal funding gotta do with Cocoa House and Liberty stadium in Ibadan? Why weren't they built in Onitsha or Enugu? |
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sheniqua
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There was nuthing like Lagos until 1979 when Obasanjo was in power this is now getting down right ridiculous. |
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4 Him (m)
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I can understand his development in Lagos as part of federal stuffs but what about places outside Lagos like Ibadan n Ife?
Dont be so thick, Oyo state was the seat of the western regional government while Lagos was the federal capital. |
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debosky (m)
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So this ignoramus is claiming UI as an Awo product?? So Awo founded University College Ibadan (established by the British) which the Federal Government converted to University of Ibadan right? What ignorance us on display here. So building cocoa house and OAU (which got taken over by the Feds anyways) is all you can point to? So much for the 'developments - even Alams built Chelsea Hotel in Abuja and Niger Delta University in 4 years |
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sheniqua
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PROOF? Nuthin is documented in Nigeria but the theory is simple. Idle men with nuthing to do and loads of ammunitions in their possession. . . . .do i need to spell it out? Yorubas joined in when the Igbos migrated like the Israelis to Lagos State(Canaan). . . .Centre of excellence. Eastern States to Lagos is the same as Lagos to UK/USA. Any Igbo man/woman traveling to Lagos is expected to come back with the goodies. . . . .why is this so?
The number of Igbos in Lagos outweighs the number of Yorubas in the whole Easten region. . . . .Why is this so? Law of Gravity? let me pretend you didn't write the others and only comment on the highlighted part. I thought you were a smart person but it seems the only thing you know is sports. Which sojourner is not expected to return with something. No be England you dey? If you come home with a polythene bag full of your clothings do you think people won't cry on your behalf and petition the almighty,even if you see nothing wrong with it.Yes Igbos travel and come home with what they achieved while away from the homeland. Every reasonable Yoruba man I'm sure would do same. so what's your point? The Yoruba man dashed them what they return with? na wa |
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~Xerxes~ (m)
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Dont be so thick, Oyo state was the seat of the western regional government while Lagos was the federal capital.
Your stupidity knows no boundaries. So Oyo State being the seat of western regional government had federal universities while the Eastern region were clutching at palm fronds? What was Azikwe doing then? Playing Ludo with Ojukwu? @ Debosky, You are an ignor anus. . . . . Who is claiming Awolowo funded OAU and UI? The fact that those 2 Universities were situated in the Western Region speaks volume. . . Why weren't they built in Onitsha or Aba? Are u people serial wankers? Gosh. . . . Dont make me lose appetite on this debate. @ Sheniqua, How many Yorubas leave Lagos State for Eastern States to seek greener pastures? Get back to me when u have a credible answer to that question. . . Lagos is not called the CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE for nuthing. . . .It's because people have actually realised their dreams in the State. |
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sheniqua
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Your stupidity knows no boundaries.
So Oyo State being the seat of western regional government had federal universities while the Eastern region were clutching at palm fronds?
What was Azikwe doing then? Playing Ludo with Ojukwu?
@ Debosky,
You are an ignoranus. . . . .
Who is claiming Awolowo funded OAU and UI? The fact that those 2 Universities were in the Western Region speaks volume. . ,
Why weren't they built in Onitsha or Aba? Are u people serial wankers? Gosh. . . . Dont make me lose appetite on this debate.
@ Sheniqua,
How many Yorubas leave Lagos State for Eastern States to seek greener pastures?
Get back to me when u have a credible answer to that question. . .
This boy na wa for you was there no fed university in Eastern Nigeria before the war? and how many Yorubas leave Lagos for odogbolu to seek greener pastures. give me the stats |
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4 Him (m)
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Your stupidity knows no boundaries.
So Oyo State being the seat of western regional government had federal universities while the Eastern region were clutching at palm fronds?
What was Azikwe doing then? Playing Ludo with Ojukwu?
he was busy founding the University of Nigeria, Nsukka. Just a point of correction, OAU and UI were not originally federal universities. |
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~Xerxes~ (m)
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@ Sheniqua,
U call those glorified secondary schools Federal Universities? I am having a laugh.
Have u been to Nigeria lately? Go to Chevron/Shell and see how graduates from Eastern Unis are treated like scumbags.
Apart from UNN who has a bit of credibility, other schools are like Federal Government Colleges. University of Uyo, FUTO and the rest are Federal Universities, are u aware of that? Can u mention em in the same breath with UI?
@ 4 Him,
Not originally Federal Unis? So which were the Federal Universities when OAU and UI were established?
Oxford or University of Uyo or IMSU?
U are a clown, hombre!!!!
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4 Him (m)
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Lagos is not called the CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE for nuthing. . . .It's because people have actually realised their dreams in the State.
Borno state is called the "home of peace". Ebonyi is called the "salt of the nation" . . . pray how much salt is mined there every yr? This boy needs to go back to school. Not originally Federal Unis? So which were the Federal Universities when OAU and UI were established?
Oxford or University of Uyo or IMSU?
You are a clown, hombre!!!!
there were none until Gowon and co started stealing them in the name of nationalisation. You are an ignorant clown. |
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