Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered

No we are not wrong, but yes you are also right! We are all saying the same things except you both spoke about different parts.

Let me break it down.

There are two types of prospective adult students:
1. Those who are outside the UK and want to apply for tier 4 visa.
2. Those who are inside the UK and want to apply for tier 4 visa.

So this is the case as it has changed for both groups

Those outside UK:
Previous transitional arrangements allowing funds to be held on the date of application only will no longer apply to applications made outside the UK, on or after 1 October 2009 as you rightfully stated.

Those inside UK:
The transitional arrangement allowing funds to be held on the date of application only that were no longer supposed to apply to applications made inside the UK, on or after 1 October 2009 have now been extended to February 2010.

Is that clearer? If not feel free to ask again. 

@Dirac - I might need more details to answer your questions correctly but I am assuming answers to the questions I need to ask in order to speed up the application. Okay here are my questions and my assumptions:

1. Was it a full three year course you applied for? You applied for a full three year undergraduate degree and not a one year top up.
2. Why did the put final year of degree, have you You actually all four years of your degree? You did complete your undergraduate degree.
3. If you did complete your undergrad why didn't you apply for a Master's degree? You did not get a 2.1 or above so felt it would be easier to start from scratch and have a longer time studying to acclimatise to a new way of studying.
4. Why did you ask for deferral to January when a visa letter can reach you in two weeks maximum? Your start date is already this October.

NOTE: IF ANY OF THESE ASSUMPTION ARE WRONG PLEASE LET ME KNOW AS IT MIGHT AFFECT THE ANSWER I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU!

Okay so here is my answer to your question if the previous assumptions are true:
Ask for an extension to your visa for up to one month (they may just give you one or two weeks but some give one month - I assumed you did not start in September), if there is an extension or late resumption date already on the letter then skip this step.

Once you have your visa letter and the transcript and other relevant supporting document, take it to the British VFS office, with your receipt of tuition fee payment (or else they should have already printed the amount of tuition fees you paid on your visa letter).

Sit back and wait for your visa! 

Under the old scheme I know people would have been scrutinized for taking another undergraduate degree, but with the new one, the only thing they can comment on is if you had a undergrad and wanted to do A-Levels/International Baccalaureate, GNVQ's or below in UK. It is not their business if you choose to do ten undergraduate degrees the reason you are coming to UK is for your education and it is perfectly reasonable to believe your university in Nigeria did not provide that well enough even though you finished the course. This is also a frequent thing for course changers: i.e. someone who was forced to take for example an education degree because there was no other option, but who really always dreamed of studying biochemistry. It is very common for people to switch careers in the UK and many do so using new training which is often a Master's degree or diploma/certificate but can be an undergraduate degree. The PBS system has made the student visa a lot less subjective than before anyway.

Just make sure you apply on time, if for any reason you are rejected your visa i.e. too late ana pplicatyion. Most universities will return your deposit unless they explicitly stated they would not return it. Please do not provide any false details and double check your application before submitting it.

Good luck! 

any new video about the PBS?

@ell, please what is your take on independent colleges qualification as a cheap route to a university degree in the uk. For example taking a ABE certificate,diploma & advanced diploma course in management. I understand u can use such qualifications to gain admission in some uk university.
Many of the independent colleges are approved tier 4 sponsors too.

 
 
  @ell
  completely irrelevant but it seems like you know your stuff
  so i was wondering could you please confirm for me that a bsc undergrad can apply for post study wrk visa if he or she returns to nig, cos i found out somewhere it was only post graduates who can apply from nigeria is this true pls
  and also if one is refused to the post study wrk visa on the stupid £800 rule can he or she re-apply in nigeria and how long after can they reply
   

@mufasa - Thanks. 
It is a cheap alternative to enter the UK, and for many people will be the best option. There is a preference on bigger employers to go for universities ranked higher and they have to be public universities. But these are more expensive. If you take one of these ABE advanced diplomas you must have a particular reason for me to advise you properly, some take these diplomas, convert it to a BSc, work in the UK for some time in average jobs and then go on to take Master's gradually, because they did not have much before they came the work from the bottom up. In the long run it may actually cost more, but it may at least get you here legally and give you some preparation before taking more difficult masters degrees etc.

Please tell me your background and dreams so I can advise you properly.


@BABABABA
i only help people with student visa related queries or post study work visa and if this is what he is interested in I am ore than happy to help. I am not an expert on all other visa types, so sadly I may not be able to help there. Tell him to email me at director@degreeangel.co.uk or ellaoku@gmail.com. I might reply with address ellaoku@gmail.com for easy access (for security reasons I only access my company email from one computer, but I access my gmail from anywhere and my DegreeAngel messages are bounced to that inbox).

@Joxiri

The Post Study work visa lasts only two years.

Yes, you can apply if you have obtained a Bachelors or Masters degree from UK, or HND from Scotland. However, this scheme last for two years and does not count towards years spent in UK qualifying you for settlement status! But your salary and qualifications earned in this period will have huge determinants on switching to a longer category of tier one that does count towards settlement status: the Highly skilled Work Visa (can stay up to three years replaces HSMP).

Points relating to course are PhD-50, Master's degree-35 and Bachelor's degree (extension applications only) - 30.

Since you would have switched from another category (Post Study Work Visa), and were not extending. In this case having an MSc would have been your best bet. So either you would have studied the Master's part-time in the two years during your post study work visa or you would have studied the MSc from the outset on your student visa to be eligible for the Highly skilled work visa. Short term the latter is more expensive but cheaper in the long run.

For settlement/Permanent stay in UK:

You must complete a continuous period of five years in the United Kingdom in an eligible immigration category (can include extensions) i.e.:
    * highly skilled worker (Tier 1 General - this does not include post study work visa period);
    * Highly Skilled Migrant Programme;
    * work permit holder;
    * innovator;
    * self-employed lawyer; or
    * writer, composer or artist.

The immigration rules are subject to change and you must meet the rules that are in place at the time that you apply for settlement.

Hope this helps, let me know if you are unsure of anything.

Regards

DegreeAngel UK Ltd

Taken and altered from the following source: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk

@ella
  I have sent an email to you mail box "ellaoku@gmail.com" with a clearer description of the situation
please kindly reply thank you

HI guys i'm in a tight spot, i recently applied for a uk student visa tier 4pbs for postgraduate studies on 18th sep 2009 till now i haven't received my passport back it should be well over 15 days now, though it was stated i should come back in ten days

my schools the University of Bedfordshire and thier  latest registration date is on the 20th of oct

i've emailed and visited the BHC and laid my complaint but was told my visa was still undergoing processing and would be returned when done.

some guys said they had problems with thier sever and they had a massive backlog to clear cuz of the holiday period, but thats crap to me!

GUys, i can honestly say i'm loosing my mind i'm so confused right now

what do i do?

cuz the way this thing is goin if i get this thing on monday i'm thinking of taking a night flight to uk to arrive on the 20th on tue. (Sounds crazy right?)

infact i'm going nut's what do you suggest?

should i ask the school to extend the reg. date?
should i bang down the doors of the embassy till they let me in?

Bear in mind i've also been to the uk 3times before for visits and my last visa was a two yr premium visa, and i have not been in any trouble what so ever all the times i went,  this is why i'm ticked of at the whole thing.

Hello ell7 and thanks for all the good updates.Well i was refused a visiting visa to the Uk in the year 2008.Is it possible to apply for a student visa after one has been refused of a visit visa?

Hi Ell77,Thanks for the job your doing i went thru all your answers to each question on this trend and it was very informative. I am new to the forum and i have few questions:
1. How many months bank statement do one need to submit to the embassy?
2. Is it okay to just have the money in your account then print out the statement after 28days and take it to the embassy or do one need to show that the money has been in the account for a longer time.( I was told by an agent that if i just deposit the money into the account that it will look suspicious).
3.What are my chances of getting a visa since i was refused a student visa in 2007 due to insufficient funds.
4. Lastly i want to ask if its okay to use a new e-passport or i shld still use the old one (it will expire in 2012)that has my maiden name(I just got married last year and changed my name.)
I will be vey glad if u cld answer my questions as i intend to apply in Nov for Feb 2010 intake.

I want to thank you first for the great job you have been doing by restoring hopes to  most questions asked. My Question(1)Is there age limitation for undergraduate studies,and Question(2)If i pay 1000 pounds deposit required by the college out of 3000 pounds,do i still stand a good chance of getting Visa?

1. How many months bank statement do one need to submit to the embassy?

U need to show 3months bank statement

2. Is it okay to just have the money in your account then print out the statement after 28days and take it to the embassy or do one need to show that the money has been in the account for a longer time.( I was told by an agent that if i just deposit the money into the account that it will look suspicious).
The agent is right, don't just deposit the money cos it will look as if u borrowed it just for the visa and will not be avaiable to u after wards.
3.What are my chances of getting a visa since i was refused a student visa in 2007 due to insufficient funds.
If u met the condition this time around then u got a good chance of getting a visa,
4. Lastly i want to ask if its okay to use a new e-passport or i shld still use the old one (it will expire in 2012)that has my maiden name(I just got married last year and changed my name.)Use the e-passport, the old one will be phased out next yr. Use the new one but submit both and your marriage certificate will sort out the issue of change of name.

ell77 will tell  u more when she logs on.

As long as  u meet the entry requirement of the course u are going to study then u got no prob. HND is higher than OND, don't include the OND if u don't have the transcript and certificate as u mentioned, submit what u have and check if that meets the entry requirement for the course
Just make sure u are submittng original documents and pls make sure that the school in london is not one of those bogus colleges and good luck with your application.

Others will tell u even more

@ell77
@funkybaby
@justwise

I want to thank you guys for the great job you have been doing by restoring hopes to  most questions asked. My Question(1)Is there age limitation for undergraduate studies,and Question(2)If i pay 1000 pounds deposit required by the college out of 3000 pounds,do i still stand a good chance of getting Visa?

I'm not sure abt the age limite thing but i know of a family friend who did his masters here at the age of 46 or above the went ahead and did Phd.
I'm guessing that your course is a yr course, wats your age bracket? 30-35 or 35-40?. It may be a prob if u got no job or serious commitment in Nigeria that will bring u back after your course.

If u paid £1000 and can prove that u have the remaining £2000 + the maintance money, if your aschool is in london then its abt £7000, outside london is abt £5600, so u need to show that u have £2000 +7000/5600. Then in this case u will be fine in  items of meeting the financial requirement.

@ell77
@funkybaby
@justwise

I want to thank you guys for the great job you have been doing by restoring hopes to  most questions asked. My Question(1)Is there age limitation for undergraduate studies,and Question(2)If i pay 1000 pounds deposit required by the college out of 3000 pounds,do i still stand a good chance of getting Visa?